Which ones have you watched and prefer?
>>152699867SatAM
>>152699867The OvaBut satam is a good contender.
>>152699867Watched all. The only one I'd ever rewatch is AoStH because it was actually absurd enough to be fun, and the chaos emerald arc was actually fairly entertaining and very well-animated. Everyone turns in appropriately silly performances, especially Long John Baldry, fucking legend.SatAM had some good parts. The atmosphere of Robotropolis and the cliched villain/lackey dynamic between Robotnik and Snivley was fun, but most episodes were painful to watch. I'm not surprised fans of this show are obsessed with Sally as a romantic interest for Sonic because their banter and behavior around one another are probably the most genuinely entertaining parts of the show.Underground was largely shit, but not too long, and gets by on being "so bad it's good". Really, it's just a worse SatAM, though.X is rubbish that goes on forever. Probably the lowest quantity-to-quality ratio here.Boom can be really funny at times, but it goes on for too long and tries too hard. I found the animation unappealing.Prime was like Boom, if Boom tried too hard to be edgy instead of funny. So damn boring.>>152700162Ultimately, this is probably the piece of Sonic animation with the highest entertainment-per-minute value. The conflict is solid, the action sequences are a blast, the music fits, and everything is visually interesting. It's a pretty good exploration of Sonic as a character, viewed through an appropirately kitschy mid-90s anime lens.
>>152699867AoSTH, no other answer is acceptable.
>>152700162>>152700272OVA is just AoStH with Japanese-written jokes.
>>152700272>SatAM was painful to watch>but the Ren & Stimpy knockoff UPAslop was very well-animatedjust admit you love seeing Sonic in drag
>>152700379>slophaha, he said it. What an intelligent and nuanced opinion you must have.
>>152699867AoStH is the only one for me.
>>152700440definitely more intelligent and nuanced that that other onenigga called Adventures of well-animated and said Underground wasn't "too long" at 40 episodes. they were literally cranking them out as fast as they could.>SatAM is so painful but boy these Underground musical numbers are great!lmao
>>152700517AoStH is so absurd it's good.Underground is so bad it's amusing.But SatAM is just so bad it's bad.This isn't hard to understand. Seeing entire generations of SatAM cucks trying to cope with the fact that their show is actually just boring and shitty is fucking hilarious.
>>152699867Sonic X is the best one
>>152700702>t-the other shows are so bad they're good! it's actually (You) who are coping!lol
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>>152700867>Fully adult man and educated scientist
SatAM is an uninspiring show. It sucks
SatAM seethers really out in force today
Adventures and Boom are good. The rest is shit.
SatAm while it had its moments, just wasn't really a Sonic show. Solid Snake Sonic was not.
AoStH while it had its moments, just wasn't really a Sonic show. Bugs Bunny Sonic was not.
>>152699867X and adventures are goodBoom is great and arguably the funniest cartoon from the 2010sPrime has good animation, but is ultimately just watchable, nothing more or less
>>152699867I haven't watched any of these except Boom, and Boom was very funny. I enjoyed the meta humor at times and the Chris Chan reference.
>>152701208>Generic "nature vs. pollution" cartoon with Sonic forced into it>>152701238>Generic "Looney Tunes" cartoon with Sonic forced into itBoth shows were mediocre knockoffs that had been done better before.
>>152700847No. AoSTH is actually just good. It succeeds at its mission statement of wacky, Tex Avery-esque cartoon antics. The performances are silly and the animation is amusing. Sometimes, genuinely good.Underground sucks, but sucks so profoundly you can laugh at it.SatAM just sucks. You can't laugh at it. It's boring and expects the viewer to be enthralled by extremely stupid drama and dumb characters. Sometimes the animation is decent, but often it's worse than AoSTH, without being fun or wacky to make up for it. And unfortunately, it's not so bad that it's amusing enough to make clips of, like the "Knuckles falling off a cliff" scene in Underground.
>>152701238why are they standing on a giant butt?
>>152701294>Both shows were mediocre knockoffsi'm more respectful of this opinion than >"Adventures of is more like the games!!!!" horseshit.no, it's not. the things it takes from the games (rings, Chaos Emeralds) are depicted just as wrong as the things SatAM takes (rings, Time Stones). the only thing Adventures has going for it is Scratch, Grounder and Coconuts.
>>152701331>the only thing Adventures has going for it is Scratch, Grounder and Coconuts.So it IS more like the games. Glad we agree.
>>152701310>It succeeds at its mission statement of wacky,and SatAM succeeds at its mission statement of Saturday morning drama.> expects the viewer to be enthralled by extremely stupid drama and dumb characters.AoStH expects the viewer to be enthralled by decades old Looney Tunes gags and disguises. >often it's worse than AoStHlol
>>152701348taking whatever scraps you can, huh, little guy
>>152701294>been done better before.what show did SatAM's style better before?
>>152701422In general, that clip you posted is better and more on-model than like 80% of SatAM. But I can tell you're being retardo on purposo.
>>152701541show your work.
>>152701523The Raccoons
>>152701669what episode did Bert have a breakdown because he couldn't save Cedric?how many episodes feature a character death?
>>152699867AotSH is the only really watchable one because it doesn't ever devolve into trannime-tier garbage like the rest. It remains what Sonic should have always been, a funny light cool show that anyone can enjoyAlso it has the best Robotnik
>>152700290Retard
>>152701715>it doesn't ever devolve into trannime-tier garbage like the rest.do you have any idea how many episodes has Sonic in a dress>It remains what Sonic should have always been, Bugs Bunny.
>>152701738I'd take Bugs Bunny over a lame Blade Runner ripoff anyday.
>>152701763Boco...it's not a Blade Runner ripoff any more than Blade Runner is a Metropolis ripoff.whenever you express your strange opinions, i try to remember that you had a rough childhood.
>>152701738The point is that Sonic was meant to compete with Mario but even more western, since Nintendo had already gone west with having an obese italian plumber as their main protag Sonic instead was meant to be like 90s Hip Hop cultureBut then he got raped by the japs and every single cartoon has to be extreme melodrama, long term plotlines about the end of the world or whatever trash taken straight out of your bog average manga. He even fucking got super sayan stolen straight from DB. That's why I also respect Fleetway, sure they still fell into the dumb long-term plotline thing but at least Sonic had a personality that wasn't a generic animu hero (he was a massive jackass who bullied the shit outta Tails lmao, though more to cope with his own traumas) and Super Sonic became a villain which is way more interesting than just copying a way more popular and better written show
>>152701716The Metal Sonic fight is the only thing going for it. The rest is by-the-numbers Jap crap with a plot literally taken from AoStH (Eggman wants to blow up a monument and destroy everything around it so he can have a honeymoon suite for when he gets married).
>>152701786Well, its some needlessly grim sci-fi movie anyway.
>>152701788the general opinion seems to be that people LIKED the tranime shounen melodrama of the Adventure games. you know, the most popular Sonic games?
>>152699867I feel like I am the only person who finds Satam just kind of mid. Everyone else either worships it or thinks it’s the spawn of satan. It’s a perfectly fine action-adventure cartoon even though Sonic’s 90’s attitude is pretty dated and he can be kind of annoying at times. It’s not nearly as dark as both fans and detractors try to claim it is, seems like most people are speaking from how they viewed the show when they were 10, both sides of that argument need to rewatch the show.
>>152701807Boco, do you think Gargoyles was "needlessly dark?"
>>152701808Because people are retards who eat slop for breakfast. Sonic became WORSE as a result of trannime influenceGuess what Sonic games are the best? Classic and classic-adjacent like Mania, where you don't have any of this retarded bullshit, it's just arrogant 90s cool dude hedgehog and his animal pals against a fatass who can build machinery good. Adventure only started the trend of Sonic taking itself way more seriously than it had any reason to. Too bad they fucked up classic Sonic with Generations and Forces tho
>>152701823No, but then it wasn't originally based on a silly, brightly colored cartoon game either.And yes, I know about the original pitch.
>>152701813>It’s not nearly as dark as both fans and detractors try to claim it isit's not Plague Dogs, no, but it was pretty dark for a Saturday morning cartoon in 1993. the only other cartoon darker was Batman.
>>152701715You know Robotnik was voiced by a gay guy in AOSTH right?
>>152701829>Because people are retards who eat slop for breakfast.anon, there was literally no food. Yuji Naka tried to kill Sonic during the Saturn era.
>>152701848And? How many faggots work nowadays at SEGA and make the newer cartoons? Baldry has a good voice and that's all that really matters, if I had to stop watching shit cause the people involved were degenerates I wouldn't be able to watch a single thing produced by Hollywood.
>>152699867I've watched one episode of underground and it has lived up to it's reputation more or less.Sonic boom is actually funny. Surprisingly watchable.AOSTH is crazy. I'm impressed by it on a technical level, but I can see someone going insane marathoning it.Sonic prime is INSANELY boring. Watched all of it 'cuz of the crossworlds crossover... I don't regret it or anything but I don't think I'd recommend it.I watched one episode of Satam and it was alright... I don't really like Sally though.I need to sit down and watch Sonic X properly someday soon.
>>152701847It’s about as dark as Star-Wars is. I guess if you navel gaze and think about the series starting out with evil winning it can be dark but the series itself never really does that. It’s mostly just a fun adventure.
>>152699867Unironically as a kid my favourite was Sonic Underground but it's purely due to age. I was young when the first two cartoons were on and only barely remember them and X was kind of shig fuck chris. Kirby and Fzero were the better mid 2000s weeb videogame cartoons.
>>152699867Sonic Prime season 3 manages to be boring and confusing at the same time. It really doesn’t get enough shit.
>>152701937Kirby's cartoon was only really saved by Dedede, Escargoon, Meta Knight and their respective voice actorsThe rest of the show is insanely forgetable. Lewis Dedede in particular carries 50% of it, the dude is pretty similar to Baldry Robotnik honestly with how much his interpretation has shaped the fan interpretation of Dedede
>>152701912a character dies in the first episode, anon.
>>152701965It’s a little better in Japanese, it actually uses the soundtrack from the Kirby games there. But it’s still pretty lame, going the kodomo route and turning Kirby into a literal infant that has to be babysat by Tiff pretty much killed the show. Can’t believe it was actually supervised by Sakurai and considered canon for years. IDW Sonicfans should learn from it, canon can change when the top brass want it to.
>>152702026He turns into a robot. He’ll be fine with a magic ring unlike Luke’s aunt and uncle.
>>152700162At least the OVA remembered Tails is just as fast as Sonic.
>>152702051And how the GBA and DS games redesigned everything to look like the anime. Thankfully, Return to Dream Land reverted much of that.
>>152702062I think the issue is less it being heckin' dark and gritty and more, again, sitting through all this melodrama about freedom fighters and shit is so fucking boringI just want to see Sonic fuck up Robotnik's plans and shit on him, I don't give a fuck that Sonic's uncle gets turned into a robot.
>>152702062>He turns into a robotassumedly, but he's still never seen again. he is effectively "dead.">He'll be fine with a magic ringrings do not reverse robotization.
>>152702084>SatAM is so boring, I just want to see Sonic dress up like a woman and make out with Robotnik.
>>152702083It was only slightly present for Mass Attack but yeah Squeak Squad was pretty much just an episode of the anime turned into a game, even if it had a pretty good OST and I believe was the first appearance of the Smash powerupReturn was peak Kirby, peak designs, peak levels, peak soundtrack. Planet Robobot is the second peak. Everything after Robobot has been shit honestly
>>152702084What melodrama? Sonic is sad for like 10 seconds before his friends tell him not to give up hope and is back to his usual tubular self. Again this shit ain’t very dark or dramatic if you are over the age of 8. >>152702089Rings give you back your free will. It’s a close enough cure that exists in Satam exclusively.
>>152701788It's funny how both Japan and the West went down the route of turning this 90s cartoon mascot character into a grimdark edgy soap opera. People like to associate Sonic and its fans with autism, but I feel like that's actually what's behind the push to turn the series into something it's not.
>>152702126Smash was in Amazing Mirror first.
>>152702130>Again this shit ain’t very dark or dramatic if you weren't alive to know what other shows were around at the timeyeah that's my point. it was dark for what it was, at the time it aired.>It's a close enough cureno. the rings do get used up, which is why Sonic has to keep getting more. and the lake only spits out one (1) every so often.
>>152699867Sonic X > The OVA > the rest of them. No competition. The Japanese versions are better & are more respectable to the source material. Americans try too hard to get a simple character like Sonic right.
Why are Sonic fans so against the idea of different variations of the franchise? This is not a thing in any other long running IP. Transformers, G.I Joe, TMNT, etc. But for some reason, Sonic fans uniquely sperg out at any differences between iterations. Yes yes, muh autism, but this is straight up low functioning OCD. >>152699867They're all trash.
>>152702176>Americans try too hard to get a simple character like Sonic right.
>>152699867Boom is my favorite. It feels like a combination of Sonic and King of the Hill. It's more of an American style sitcom than a Japanese anime like X or an adventure show. Boom is comfy, many of the episodes are fun to re-watch, and it has some really good side characters like Dave the Intern
>>152702155The funny part is Mario ended up doing it better. You got really dark shit like Super Paper Mario that didn't fall into generic jappie slop which was also separate from the lighter but still more serious M&L which was separate from classic Mario which retained its lack of serious plotMeanwhile Sonic has gotten so absorbed by this corruption of what the intent of his character and franchise is that literally not even the Classic games are saved from being fun wacky adventures about a radical hedgehog going fastIt's like if SMB was retconned to actually be a super deep story about how Bowser had enslaved millions of Toads and Mario was the freedom fighter who lost his father to him and was now out for revenge.
>>152702186>Why are Sonic fans so against the idea of different variations of the franchise?what makes it even funnier is that SEGA doesn't stop putting out different variations of the franchise.as if Sonic's formula hasn't been changed a dozen times and won't change a dozen more.Sonic "canon" doesn't exist.
>>152702212They want a unified canon now. Thats why the IDW comic has so many rules and why they won't revive any of the older, "off brand" continuities.
>>152702186Because there was really only one iteration that sustained the whole franchise through the notorious Saturn era (the Archie comics that spun off from SatAM into its own thing) and it ended up being what shaped the fandom since they had nothing else.
>>152702161Kids can handle actual death of parental figures in media back then. Honestly if Bambi can have his mom get shot in a Disney movie then Sonic’s Uncle can get turned into a clanker.
>>152702209>It's like if SMB was retconned to actually be a super deep story about how Bowser had enslaved millions of Toadsthat also happened in 1993.
>>152702233>They want a unified canon now.it really is the gift that keeps on giving.they won't stop changing everything drastically but at the same time want to "unify"lmaohow the fuck do you "unify" Unleashed, Forces and Frontiers?
>>152702246Difference being the movie was recognized as total shit and forgotten and Mario never tried to be that serious, even Paper Mario still is extremely wack at pointsThough tbf I respect '93 Mario Movie more than the new Chris Pratt diarrhea pushed out by Illumination, fuck that shit. At least '93 had the fucking balls to not feel like a total cashgrab, it was just completely different and barely resembled Mario lmao
>>152702202Forget their name but the passive aggressive lemurs were also great side characters
>>152702267Easy, they pretend Unleashed and Forces never happened.
>>152702239you do know when i mention the character that dies in the first episode, i'm not talking about Chuck right?SatAM has a few "deaths" sprinkled throughout to maintain the stakes.
>>152702281Those are the gogobas and they are chinchillas.
>>152702233>They want a unified canon now.They want sanitized, corporate slop. Sonic is boring garbage now because everything has to be the same bland sludge. I hate it.
>>152702299Sure, and X-men did the same. “Kill” off some rando that nobody cares about in the first episode for drama. I’m not saying Satam was completely devoid of dark moments but it’s not some uniquely grim and edgy story either. Certainly not something that was much different from anything else on tv at the time.
Apart from the OVA all of them are trash to mid. I like Sonic X the most out of them because I like the Adventure games the most in terms of aesthetic and world building and Sonic X is the closest to that. I hope SEGA tries making another Sonic anime one day. But none of these shows are something I would willingly put on and watch, which I can't say about the OVA
>>152702311Thanks, anon. I really appreciate you taking time out of your busy day to correct me
>>152700901That always bothered me, like they were afraid to tackle Chris being an adult now, having to relate to a character that really hadn't aged a day since the two parted.Could have had him fight along side his hero, work with Tails, all that stuff. But nooooooooo, the audience can't relate to an ADULT (just ignore all the cartoons and anime that came before it with fully adult casts).
Boom was pretty funny most of the time.
>>152700867This little shit ruined the entire show for me. So god damn annoying.And then turning him back into a kid even though he actually grew the fuck up into an adult was just retarded.
>>152701829For me as a fan of both, I think they should continue to keep the two separate in terms of tone BUT allow them to share elements/characters etc. Keep the Classic series as Sonic and friends' blissful past, where it's straight forward "Eggman does bad, Sonic fixes it", and anything post Adventure allowed to add on to it (i.e. Trip's people being attacked by Eggman, but now she's a lot stronger, but still needs Sonic's help, maybe Trip looses her grandpa in the attack via an accident).Essentially, Classic (Mania, Superstars) = No extra plot, super colorful and no seriousnessAdventure & Post = Extra plot, allowed to tackle mature themesThe only problem is keeping both group of fans happy.
>>152699867AoStH is comedy gold and lighthearted kinoSatAM is serious but still it's decent with an interesting premise and storySonic Underground sucksThe Sonic OVA is 10/10 kinoSonic X is fine. It doesn't do anything exceptional and the OC characters vary by quality but overall I enjoyed itSonic Boom is funny as shit. It doesn't take itself seriously and that's why it's goodSonic Prime sucked
Sonic X was the best by far.I loved it.
>>152700162>The OvaThis.Also, I'm not that fond of Sonic X, but that would be my second pick by default because I don't care about any of the DIC Sonic shows, Boom, or Prime. As if being a Sonic fan wasn't suffering enough already.
>>152702398so you admit it was drama without capes.
>>152700867>>152702726liked the art style wished they set the show in sonics world rather than getting isekaied
>>152699867OVA and SatAM. Underground tried to be SatAm but failed, which is ironic since SatAM is dogshit compared to any 86s action cartoon like Biker Mice from Mars or Swat Kats from the 90s and further ironic that SatAM is made in the 90s>>152700289Fuck off, Sharty. Go shit yourself. AoStH >>152701238 was an attempt at Felix The Cat and it failed badly.Sonic just like Pokemon both the TV Shows and the games are the most gimmicky garbage I've ever played and watched. Their cartoons manage to be worse versions of sloppa such as YuGiOh. You'll have more fun watching YuGiOh than Sonic X. I could shit out a better Sonic comic, TV Show and game in my sleep. Many fans have did with the comic books ... they're mediocre and generic when compared to great comic books, but compared to the dogshit that is Sega they're amazing.SEGA Team and Game Freak share a lot in common. Both are talentless hacks.Difference between SEGA (the company) and Nintendo ... is that Sega is a push over starting with Colonial Marines. An absolute push over.
>>152703255i liked the pilot, wished that was the show we got instead
>>152703316>was an attempt at Felix The Catno, that was Twisted Tales of Felix the Cat and it didn't come out until 1995.AoStH is riding that R&S wave.
>>152702626If I remember, 4Kids were the ones who paid for a new season to be made without any context and the staff pretty much had to make it all up as they went.
>>152702726Fuck off, manchild. The kid was supposed to be you, a self insert. Not our problem you're a fat unlikable manchild right now and even back then you were fat and unlikable. Hey you do have both something in common, you're both entitled.You'd think the last episode where Chris kidnaps Sonic would make you relate to him, you're both selfish autistics with no friends who hate family.I don't understand the hatred for Sonic X cause it feels like any other toyetic generic 2000s action + slice-of-life show. How is Sonic X any different from Loonatics Unleashed and say Megaman NT Warriors?
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>>152699867Maybe I should use AI sloppa sometime to make a motion comic, but with current AI sloppa and my perfectionism it doesn't go very well.I want a specific new design for Tails and specific expressions. This is why I hate commisioning people and don't do it. They both don't understand my vision. Same with the AI voice acting that reads like it's retarded or a complete beginner. Same for the AI music that has this constant buzzing in the background.At that point I might as well just grab some goddamn puppets and play proper pretend like South Park and Family Guy are doing and admit my audiovisuals are utter garbage and pretend to make up for it through my storytelling and voice acting(which South Park & Family Guy suck at).
>>152703419do you watch AtariX videos
>>152703363
Buzz Lightyear of Star Command and Tangled are the only good movie to TV Show adaptions and those are so few... Sonic Prime I was disappointed it wasn't texturized 3D-2D like Spiderverse or 2D to 3D like Klaus/Paperman... and again why the fuck is Sega obsessed with Green Hill Zone, but not the casino level or the chemical plant zone?Emerald Hill Zone: Tropical, grassy starting area.Chemical Plant Zone: Industrial, purple, and blue chemical factory.Aquatic Ruin Zone: Ancient ruins, part underwater, part on land.Casino Night Zone: Vegas-style, pinball-inspired stage.Hill Top Zone: Mountainous terrain with lava and earthquakes.Mystic Cave Zone: Underground mine with vines and tunnels.Oil Ocean Zone: Coastal oil refinery with toxic sludge.Metropolis Zone: A three-act, industrial city full of enemies.Sky Chase Zone: Short, breezy flight on the Tornado plane.Wing Fortress Zone: High-flying aerial battleship.Death Egg Zone: Final two-boss confrontation with no rings. I was disappointed with Prime cause it was handled by some of the people behind Generator Rex which was the last good CN show and an amazing show by 2010s lack of standards, probably the best and last good show of the 2010s despite some people calling it toyetic, generic .. but that's because CN kept trying to sabotage it with goofy SFX because the show is actually Resident Evil tier and the only thing reminding you it's sloppa it's Rex himself with his banter and giant hands.Sonic Prime was only good for evil Tails and the Deadpool reimagining of Metal Sonic which barely lasted half an episode.Sadly in Evil Tails' words "I got nothing" Prime was a borefest of nothing. And Sonic seemed to have lost his Bugs Bunny IQ just like in the CGI movies. He's just 1 step above Goku levels of stupidity.
>>152703458Back to >>>/a/ and /v/.
>>152703486idk what you're on about, Chemical Plant shows up all the time.
>>152703502Nta, but this is a /v/ property adapted into an /a/ show, thrown into a /co/ thread along with other adaptation of said /v/ property.
>>152701832Would you fuck the fuck off
>>152699867I’ve watched all of them and dead center in my opinion are the best two. Best comedy is easily Boom. Best story is Satam, after SATAM in terms of story I’d say sonic X.
>>152701965I cant even disagree because that's all I remember about it and why I love it. I would have killed to see that Dedede and Long John Bauldry Robotnil and the cgi Krool in a crossover together.
>>152702276>Difference being the movie was recognized as totalNOT IN MY HOUSE ITS NOT
>>152702311Kind of unrelated but I didn't know Nack was a Jerboa until the other day when I looked him up. I mean they call him a weasel but the designer said jerboa so it's not my fault but still.
>>152703323The pilot reminded me so much of Sherlock Hound for some reason. It would have been so much better.
>>152702051>IDW Sonicfans should learn from it, canon can change when the top brass want it to.Many already have, lamenting the main cast can't grow beyond themselves because the comics MUST follow the games to a T. So if it didn't happen in the games to the game characters, it can't be done.
Sonic Boom felt like I was watching those dogshit Dreamworks adaptions. Penguins of Madagascar was atrocious.And Disney's TV Shows weren't terrible but they were generic.
>>152700517>>152701422>called Adventures of well-animatedHe called the Chaos Emerald arc episodes well animated you illiterate mong. They were the Akira studio's episodes.
>>152699867AoSTH > Prime > Boom > Sonic X > SATAM > Underground
>>152701173>that many people masturbating to urkelgrim
>>152704166Filtered
>>152704338>>152704229Sonic Boom was a very very shitty sitcom show on the level of Donkey Kong's TV Show. Yes I filter idiots such as you and your poor tastes, something you'd like to add, redneck? I'm not being emotional just so you know, it's just that objectivity often comes with harsh truths.AoSTH was also a dogshit show that made Boom and Prime look well written by comparison.
>>152704386>filtered by Donkey Kong Country
>>152699867I've only watched a few episodes of X and Boom but I remember loving X as a kid (mostly because a Sonic cartoon was the coolest thing to me) and I still think Boom is pretty funny.
>>152704386The DKC cartoon was hilarious though, even if unintentionally. That fucking Diddy Drop rap and the Robot song occasionally start playing in my head out of nowhre.
>>152700867filtered faggot.
>>152704386Cope and seethe
>>152703667Satam has no business being that high. Your tier list is dogshit.
>>152699867All except Boom and undergroundSatAM takes the crownX is second place but only for season 3 and Shadow
>>152704418>>152704473Hey, FILTERED :^) maybe you'd like to learn new words, XML bots.
AoStH is dogshit that's only remembered for Robotnik and YTP. SatAM is a bizarre tone shift but better overall. Underground is chinese bootleg SatAM. X spends too much time on humans. Boom is funny. Prime looks bizarre again, but haven't watched it.
>>152703848X makes me wonder why the hell the writers would never flesh out Sonic's own world, since Series 1 is a human world isekai and Series 2 (Metarex) is almost entirely space bound. The second series was better but even watching uncut (French dub) the whole show is pretty milquetoast.Ending was surprisingly a bit of a downer.
>>152704628Because they never intended to continue the anime past the original ending where Sonic goes home and Chris grows up, so they never put any thought into it.
>>152704523What the fuck are you talking about? I swear you can't say anything on this site without some retard accusing you of being their bogeyman or thread nemesis.
>>152704663I mean they surely must have had some idea for the first pilot.
Sonic Man of the Year and AoStH
>>152704628If we got season 4 it would certainly take place on sonic's world.
>>152704717Would have been a perfect opportunity to do a heroes adaptation. We could have gotten metal sonic.
>>152704605Prime is reverse Into the spider verse. Sonic visits the alt worlds instead of alt Sonic's visiting the "main world"
>>152704391>>152704473Maybe you'd like to learn new words from a non retard, XML bots.
>>152704477It had a cast of interesting characters with the best incarnation of Robotnik. It had action, drama, suspense, and made you want more after it ended.
>>152699867All of Boom and like parts of X. I prefer Boom since I still remember the short term memory loss joke as well as the baby blender joke sticking out to me. There was also a joke about Eggman’s dick being small which I laughed at. Don’t forget the Knuckles is a feminist scene.
>>152704773You should
>>152700162OVA was shitty, and gay.>>152699867SatAM>BOOM=Prime>Sonic-X=Adventures>dirt>power gap>UndergroundThis is the hardcore facts autists.
>>152704811you have nostalgia goggles for SATAM
Sonic is a series that much akin to Pokemon was never good, even the first 2 Harry Potter movies were good... and much much better than the books where you can find any other wizardry school detective mystery adventures infinitely better written than Harry Stoner Potter.With Sonic on the other hand it never ever had anything good in it besides perhaps the megaman-tier levels in Sonic 2 which are much more fitting to play as Megaman X than Sonic. Sonic is as much of a horrible video game character as he is as a narrative character.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnXxGIy0wkMThe problem with fanboy retards is that they only accept SEGATM bullshit instead of eating something better and superior, just like most TM obsessed fags like the Potterfags.The advantage with Sonic is that you can feed people anything good and they'll eat it up (as long as you have the made by SonicTeam TM bullshit) or as long as your main character is still Sonic and not Spark the Electric Jester or Lilac the purple dragon which has infinitely better friends than Sonic does.Hence the Sonic OVA which is as generic as any animal adventure animated movies come. I'd still hire that studio to do a Rocket Knight Adventures special. (Albeit I hate their almost UPA-tier designs of how simplistic Sonic looks)You can seriously copy the mediocrity that is Dragon Ball (not Z) with Sonic & his pals the way Family Guy does and you'd end up with a better product than any generic mandated garbage done by Sega. Archie's writers/IDW's writers(same idiots) are lying shitheads pretending Sega is trashing their script instead of admitting they are trash at writing and arting.
>>152704841I'm just true to the Sonic lore as if any of it matters. SatAM was the best Sonic could and has been. Everything else is slop.
>>152704791>Proving me rightYeah you should, projecting bitch. Not the brightest bot in the farm, are you?
>>152704811Sallyfags are entitled.
>>152704861Nice seething
>>152704873>I'm just true to the Sonic lore as if any of it matters.even I could come up with less painfully obvious bait.
>>152704873Sure thing, faggot
>>152704861>Hates Sonic>Hates Pokemon>Hates Dragon Ballwe get it, you hate japan.
>>152704873I'm not saying it's bad I just think everything but Underground is better than it.
>>152702792As someone who preferred the mainline Sonic games over the Sonic shows, comics, and live-action stuff, this sounds like a good compromise in the long run. I'm fine with it at least, but I don't speak for fans from both groups.>>152702958A fair assessment of those Sonic shows.
>>152699867I don't think I could stand willfully watching AoSTH now but I will always love it for the poops, Long John Baldry as Robotnik and Jaleel White as Sonic
>>152704885Game purists seethe at characters being allowed to exist in other mediums outside the games.
>>152700162OVA was fun but it was a single release 40+ minute. it passes more as a short movie (Kung Fury was 30 minutes long) than a TV show.
OVA>>>Sonic X (subbed)>Satam=Boom>X (dubbed)>Aosth>>>powergap>>>prime>underground
>>152704873You're talking to one of the brown underage Sharty kids still buttmad over Tamers12345. Just so you know.>>152704811OVA was mediocre similar to SatAmI personally preferred the studio behind the Sonic Riders 2D animations. It looked like Sonic X's designs but better and it reminded me again of those sci-fi 2000s shows where the future was bright and everyone wanted FUCKING HOVERBOARDS, not this dogshit a quarter scooter we have now and everyone being a fag. Ironic that we finally have powerful portable computers in our backpocket but it still feels so dystopian instead of utopian considering the state of things like 2 entire generations being incapable of verbal skills and individual thinking because of typing and the internet.One thing to note about SatAM however ... it did offer a better Coco from Crash Bandicoot and a "better Tails" in the form of Sally.That is to say they basically took Tails's brains and feminity and dumped it into Sally while American Tails took the fall into little brother parrot mode.I always considered Tails in Sonic 2 equal to Sonic ... perhaps a reboot is in order where Tails starts off as a rival to Sonic, just like Knuckles and Shadow... except those 2 never join Sonic. Sonic isn't Goku apparently and Goku always stands alone anyway, it's everyone else that stands together as a ragtag bunch of misfits till Goku comes along... hey just like Sonic X. Except Sonic X has no Piccolo and Vegeta to actually lift things, Knuckles & Shadow fuck off forever. I think Knuckles joins the team unwillingly in season 3 in Sonic X but for some reason he doesn't get any proper episodes where he does shit.
>>152704910>>152704906>>152704893We get it, you're bots. Fuck off already. No seriously, do none of you real humans know that... that 98% of 4chan are bots? all those meme spouters they're not just underage retarded children, it's bots copying from what they heard from KnowYourMeme.
>>152704980Your a fucking retard.
>>152704910This. Imagine someone being this titled by the Japanese. Does that anon also hate Mario, Demon Slayer, and Pac-Man?
>>152701829Sonic can take itself seriously ... if you reboot it and don't put Mario and Final Fantasy writers in the same room. Sadly SonicTeam is anything but honest, they keep trying to combine 2 demographics of 6 year olds and 16 year olds together and they suck dick at appealing to both. One sabotages the other cause these idiots don't know how to separate and contrast. Kid writing should stay in kid character. Adult writing should stay in adult characters. Japs are idiots who are eternally stuck as 13 year olds and mentally unhealthy autists who'd kick the baby and not consider it a South Park joke, they'd kick the baby and say the baby deserved it for being weak. Unhealthy people do not see the difference between a child and an adult.
>>152702559I can't tell if you're imitating the gogobas manipulative, guilt tripping sarcasm, or did that accidentally.
>>152705017Don't make me post your Amazon home address, you imbecile toaster handler.You're* stop copying from retards, you retarded XML bots.
>>152705022>this titledAre you having a stroke? Need to put down the phone after double-posting from your wireless and your mobile data, pajeet?
>>152704493>Shadow edit of SatAM SonicHey. this edit gave me an idea. Who would have voiced Shadow in SatAM?
>>152705017>>152705022I am coming to cut off your balls and ovaries of your family and yourself if you don't stop posting immediately as of this post.
>>152705118Gary Chalk.
>>152705118Jaleel Black
>>152705118Jaleel White but make him sound meaner>>152705142kek
>>152705118casper van dien
>>152705022>*tiltedJFC, imagine being this TILTED over a misspelling.>>152705085What double-post are (you) talking about? Can't (you) tell one anon from anon or are (you) the one having a stroke?
Imagine if Mario fans acted the way Sonic fans would do. They'd bitch about Mario not needing any characters outside of Luigi. Would hate the cartoons for being american, and not enough like the games. Hate Luigis Mansion for him not being edgy and getting a gun, and it stopped being good after the third game and has all been downhill.
>>152702792As a predominantly Classic era fan, I'm not sure the factionalism of series is reconcilable unless they decided to totally reboot it (which would create another faction like Boom really).I'm not a fan of how pigeonholed they are in making sections the franchise with "this particular Sonic can only do 3D with this, that version of Sonic can only do 2D with that". It's not as if Classic era didn't also engage in taking itself seriously and having some engaging plots nor vice versa for Modern.The ideal scenario for me would have been that the two designs are simply art style interpretations of the exact same character and that canon should remain loose enough to allow whatever vision behind each work to express creative freedom, but Generations opened Pandora's box and the new canon under Ian Flynn makes the universe of the games feel more shallow.Sonic's main raison d'être is as a mascot in the end.
>>152705068It's intentional, don't worry
>>152701788Dragon Ball wasn't well written, it was full of bullshit moments because Akira Toriyama wrote into a corner or was just faking out for manufactured drama and tension, like Goku's heart stopping after being 'killed' by King Piccolo, only for it to miraculously start again after he leaves.
>>152705118Scott McNeil in his Piccolo voice.Brian Drummond as a second guess though he voice Knuckles in Underground and Eggman in Prime
>delusional JP purists getting uppity againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OED_n7afqHY
>>152704980>Tails as rivalTails was at best already Krillin in Sonic 2. he went through a character arc.
>>152705341and this is supposed to prove.....
>>152705906It proves that Japan doesn't give a shit about Sonic, and the abysmal performance of the entire franchise in Japanese markets is moreso. They don't care, never have never will, so your obsession with the "true" Japanese vision of Sonic is nonsense. Notice how despite bitching about westerners supposedly fucking up their glorious vision, they don't ever get any Japanese writers, and still have to rely on the Americans to actually write for their shitty IP.
>>152706033Funny how you say this but most of the fandom prefers how the franchise was handled without the early 90's american slop that tainted sonic until adventure.
>>152706061Oh wow, you really are delusional.
>>152706033>still have to rely on the Americans to actually write for their shitty IP.And have they contributed to anything of value? Archie was a glorified fanfiction and IDW has brought DEI to the franchise. None of the american cartoons are good except boom and speaking of the boom sub-franchise that almost through the entire franchise back into another dark age.
>>152706072I accept your concession.
I have no idea how I missed Sonic Underground. During the early 1990's, I was terminally in front of the TV. I watched AoSTH and SATAM. Somehow I didn't learn about Sonic Underground until the 2000's. I watched a little of it and was turned off of it. I never really gave it a chance.I watched some fansubs of Sonic X when it first came out. There was a fansub group called "Wolfpack Productions" that did one episode a month and only subbed up to around episode 10, I think, then I never saw anymore of that.Like most people, I was initially turned off of Sonic Boom's radical design changes, but it's campy. Most of the humor is corny, but I like it decently enough.Prime starts out okay but the entire finale is a train wreck when Tails-9 becomes the villain and feels like it just goes on and on.
>>152706033>they don't ever get any Japanese writers, There are japanese writers still working with the games and sonic even just got a new manga series.
>>152706125The newer games are written by Americans. And the manga is just as shit as everything else. >>152706083>And have they contributed to anything of value?See, this is a loaded question, because Sonic the Hedgehog has never had any value whatsoever, regardless of the nationality of the people producing it.
>>152706061you mean the stuff that kept the franchise alive until Adventure
>>152706162>The newer games are written by Americans.never really
>>152706213So the shitty writing is Sega JP's fault then. Interesting.
>>152704218>The studio that animated this would go on to animate pic related and Sonic X.>X's animation is almost as bad as Underground.
>>152699867AOSTH>OVA>Boom>SatAM>X>Prime>Underground
>>152699867Sonic Boom although it's the worst character designs
>>152700272>Boom goes on for too long>Only two seasons and most of the episodes run for 11 minutes.
>>152699867Boom > X > SatAM > Adventures of > Prime > UndergroundI want to put Prime at the bottom and afford Underground more but for the life of me I can't even get a few episodes in without having to swear off of it (I at least held out to finish season 2 of Prime). It might be the most unique but that doesn't make it interesting.
>>152699867AOSTH is kino.SATAM and Sonic X are fine but haven’t aged well.Boom is hit-or-miss but mostly enjoyable.Underground and Prime fucking suck.
>>152701310>it's not so bad that it's amusing enough to make clips of, like the "Knuckles falling off a cliff" scene in Underground.IDK, this frame always gives me a laugh.
It's pretty sad how the entire Sonic franchise rests on the laurels of the very first game
>>152699867OVA > Boom > AoStH > X > SatAM > Underground > PrimeUnderground is objectively the worst but I had fun watching it. X and SatAM are both boring but at least X had the tournament arc which got a few chuckles out of me>>152706377iirc that was because they were forced to stay on model
>>152699867I like sonic boom cus its low stakes sitcom tier you dont have to over think it and its not trying to be dramatic. I hate Sonic Prime on every level I hate multiverse shit I hate the humor I hate the stories its just all shit. the first 3 cartoons are too different to the games for me to enjoy them it just never felt like sonic to me and the freedom fighters stuff are all OCs its hard for me to connect with it. Whereas sonic X has OCs too it balances them with game stuff.
>>152706033>Those butthurt retards still denying after literal fucking truth in their faces.My God, you sacred cow pajeets need to go back to India. You're just as delusional as Indians.Fucking Megaman is more known in Japan than Sonikkuu!!! the blue Felix the Cat retard, cause that's what Sonic is ... Sega tried to steal from America like they stole from Disney and this time it didn't work. Nintendo's pandering to an italian plumber worked, but Sega's furry fandom didn't. Japs aren't very furry oriented.
>>152699867Sonic x was good and had an alright theme songUnderground had one of the best cartoon opening themes of all time but was pretty mid I'm glad that weird Autistic version of American sonic is dead desu.
>>152706532>AOSTH is kino.BACK TO THE SHARTY. C'mon back to the Sharty with you. We don't want your kind here.
>>152701238I dont mind that in concept cus if you do it right sonic jap design could fit in next to mickey mouse or looney tunes but it feels wacky in a totally different way nothing like the games and the mohawk sonic always looked fucking weird andd ugly to me I just couldnt pinpoint why. In the jap games hes round and aesthetic, and I just hate that voice so much he sounds so uncool. Wouldnt even mind everything else if the voice just matched better.
>>152701788Sonic Fleetway relationship with tails makes sense if you play sonic 2 on genesis and tail is a dumbfuck killing himself and fucking up all the platform they were just writing how the player would view tails (an annoying little fuckup)
>>152703316seething ShartAM kek
>>152706940It was a cheap ugly anime, and its english opening was a meme for how it was three words repeated over and over. I bet you never even watched the japanese dub of it.
>>152706491And yet it still felt too long.
>>152704166I find Sonic Boom torturous and most of the Sonic shows but it would have become an obsession if it happened when I was 6
>>152706758Throughout the first series a lot of the animation is very bad and off-model. Episode 18 is particularly egregious.
>>152699867>>>/a/
>>152699867As bad Underground is i'll always have a soft spot for it because it's the show that got me into the franchise. My cousins had the entire series on DVD and we would watch it together when my family visited theirs. Good times
>>152699867SatAM, though unironically there's stuff about Underground I think is compelling (e.g. Robotnik running a normal dictatorship instead of a dead land of robots bound to his will and the compromises he has to make as a result). AoStH is half the reason YTP exists and Long John Baldry is GOATed, so it has those in its favor. X was okay, Boom was irony poisoned, and Prime is slop.
>>152703556This. Chemical Plant has been brought back several times already. As cool as that Zone is, I got a bit tired of seeing pop up as often as it does.
>>152707216That projection doesn't work, Tamersfag. You made your bed, now sleep in your AoStH filth you SHARTYFAG.
>>152706213I never paid much mind to who writes for the Sonic games, but it's kinda funny learning how Sega and Sonic Team dictate how the games are written.
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>>152699867Sonic boom is really good