Lol.Lmao, even.
Which had a worse ending, this or IHF?
>>152752603I thought it was ok. I feel because of the success of Vol 1 horvath needs to set up the future of the comics since its now a franchise(announced ttrpg/card game/animation so on) they need to make sure to set Sam up and milk her like walking dead. FUCK YOU HORVATH FOR KILLING MY DUCK WIFE
Does anyone even die from the city being bombed besides the Monica and the koala guy? The rest are just from Sam shooting or stabbing them..
>>152752660IHF, but that's pretty hard to top.
>>152752734I guess they want to imply the kid's mom becomes a scapegoat and gets blamed for the attack by the social worker
If anything you should be happy because dropping the ball this hard means you no longer have to invest in the future milking of this "ip."
Surprised they gave the Duck such an unceremonious death. Just cuts to her charred corpse like it's whatever.
>>152752937fuck around and find out
>>152752861That's probably how Sam gets away with it until the next vol. the police all think the boy is lying to protect his mom so they won't believe him when he says Sam is a mass murderer.
>>152752603whats so funny?
>>152753566This wouldn't work since any preliminary investigation of the shop would find that the entire perimeter was lined with shotguns and most of the fires started while the mole mom was knocked out on xannies and in the hospital.>>152752660Post the IHF ending? I only saw the fakeout one.>>152752703Some things don't need to try being a perennial IP. This should have either become an anthology about different criminals after Sam or been a one-and-done. It might make some more money, I can't predict general taste, but I'm definitely not engaging with anything else that comes of this franchise.
>>152752603wait, they made a comic out of that bizarre Russian meme?
>>152752603I always thought this shit was mid but it went from an okay true crime-esque story carried hard by the art to complete slop that makes late season Dexter look masterful by comparison almost immediately. Also very telling that the only people left clinging on now are the furry waifufags.
Wtf is IHF?
>>152752660Between those two, IHF. Rite of Spring's ended on a shit note, but there's enough wiggle room to salvage things in Volume 3. IHF was a scorched earth level moment.Neither is as bad as The Promised Neverland Season 2 in terms of fucking up a good thing.
>>152756110I Hate Fairyland
>>152752660NTA but you guys mean pic when referring to IHF, right? (Spoilers for IHF Volume 2 #7)I thought the original run's ending was well liked (If a bit rushed)
I only got to the part where she HomeAlone’s the officers. What’s so bad about the rest?
>>152756462Here's the continuationhttps://desuarchive.org/co/thread/152700316/
>>152756523Thanks. I appreciate it.
>>152752660This isn't even an ending, it's just sequel baiting. Like I understand it will probably read better once we get the third part and Samantha doesn't get away scott-free, but as it stands it sucks this is just an interquel.
>>152752937she was a living death flag anon. The moment she said that she had nothing to live for beyond having some closure regarding her brother, her fate was sealed. She had multiple chances to make peace with it, make a new life, assume the worst happened and let it go. But she got suckered in by it.
>>152752937What I dont get was what was the point of kidnapping her, then just killing her off immediately afterwards?Why not just shoot her back in the shop with the other officers
>>152757057Sam wanted to make it clear that her snooping around was what led her to go scorched earth over Woodbrook. The price for her knowing the truth... a truth that's so anticlimactic it must have been hell for her, going through everything, killing a man and having the truth so close, yet being blind to it. So Samantha just clinically dismantling her motives like she does with the corpses.
>>152752937Reads like executive meddling honestly. The final third of Rite of Spring does not match with what the first two thirds were building up to. Sam especially feels borderline OOC by the end with what she's doing and how she kills people in parts 5 and 6.
it got popular and they had no idea what to do a sequel.
>>152757083Her booby trapping the hospital along with several buildings in town was so retarded
>>152755751Markiplier played a game about this
>>152757091The sequel should have ended with Monica killing Sam, at the cost of her own morality. It's the only ending that made sense.Killing Sam by leaving her to die in the fire even gives them an out for a sequel where somehow Sam returns, forcing Monica to go back to hell, and the reader is left with the mystery of if it's actually Sam or a copycat.
>Monica manages to capture Sam>Book 3 is Sam as a death row inmate being offered the chance to help catch a copycat killer of her
>>152755852Its always the gooners who cling to shit like this.
>>152752603>local bear commits smalltown 9/11>gets away with it somehow
>>152752948>Sam literally fucked (with) the duck until (Woodbrook) exploded
>>152756199Ah, okay.
>>152757428Yeah, her escaping for years is just not believable. Unless she shows up in the next Volume painted as a panda to mask her identity, she would be the FBIs most wanted and there would be a nationwide manhunt for her, especially now she’s a cop killer on top of all the other murders.
>>152752660IHF was never good to begin with...
>>152755383You wouldn't get it.
>>152752861>>152753566Thats not possible, because theres actual multiple eye-witnesses who could look through Sam’s store window and saw her shoot four cops, and then kidnap a woman who will later be found as a tied up charred corpse in the same store where Sam tried to destroy the evidence, with another body behind the store. This all happened whilst the mole mom was in a hospital.Sam also managed to burn down four buildings, but not the police station which has all the actual evidence against her.
He'd put a stop to this madness real quick. Any detective with an IQ over 90 would do actually.
>>152756523>she firebombed an entire fucking city and got away scott freeI'm glad I never really got into this series
>>152758364That's where I was THINKING Sam would rig the last firebomb, but I guess she wasn't as smart as I assumed.
>>152752937>>152757053Even though her whole body was on fire we don't 100% know if we're looking at a corpse from that panel. And it's not like we see anyone saying she's dead or an obituary. It's not like most deaths where their heads are cut into pieces or they're shot through the head.So knowing the quality of over the top writing we have now with stuff like wall shotguns and whatnot, I wouldn't be surprised if the duck randomly shows up in the next volume to confront Sam for some "OH SHIT!" moment where she's horribly disfigured.Writer could easily say she was pulled out of the fire right before fully burning to death, even if it would be a cop out.
Sam is now on Joker levels of insane schemes and plot armor. It's so hard to take her seriously, now.
Does the author have a twitter? I want to tell them how shit their story is.
>>152757132why would killing a serial killer make monica a bad person, this is that stupid batman rule where he can't kill the joker because reasons.
>>152759922you're a waste of space
...am I the only one here who finds Pauline kind of hot?
>>152758606>an entire fucking cityWoodbrook's only a small town. Not that this makes it any better.
>>152758178>IHF was never good to begin with...I liked the original 20 issues...
>>152759970nta but I think what he means by>at the cost of her own moralityis Monica resorting to morally dubious actions in her obsession to bring Sam to justice. Which she was shown to be entirely capable of doing by going along with Sam's plan to deceive to Koalas to search their house and then run from the consequences of stairs. Simply extrajudicially executing Sam wouldn't necessarily be immoral by itself, but the other things she could have done (and other people she might harm) in order to accomplish that goal might be.
>>152752603She should have just smoked the weed.
>>152759970Have Sam be proud of Monica as she's dying, pointing out that this will be the third person (as far as Monica knows) who she's killed. Then Monica can start having the same hallucinations Sam has by having broken necked Koala Dad, truck smashed worker, and Sam all haunting her. Then when she's back in the city, have her get attacked in an alley again like she was in chapter 1. Or she gets annoyed at work, and she sees the annoying customer or staff member having a smoke in the alley. And the Sam voice in her head gives her the push that there's a way to make this problem go away permanently.All are bored, but Sam kills out of morbid curiosity and a primal instinct. Nigel killed for attention and a need to feel strong. Monica could kill out of rage towards the world.
>>152756175>IHF was a scorched earth level moment(Spoilers for IHF's second run)What annoys me the most is how Happy End Game completely ignores adult Gert when she could have easily been an independent secondary antagonist that is the reason Happy wants revenge and instead she is a glorified background character that could easily be removed and nothing in the story arc would change.
What would her reaction be if you tried this on her?
Eh, wait for part 3. The middle of a trilogy is always weak.
>Oh no, the fictional bear isn't realistic!You're also not supposed to like her, retards.
>>152762824>You're also not supposed to like her, retards.Well they did a bad job because I love her.
>>152760280Same here man
>>152760280At least Pauline is kind I wanna fuck Cherry
>>152759857There's a valid reason Lex Luthor is terrified of her
>>152762669Dude she killed her mom and dad she will see you as an easy mark at best
>>152762824It's not a matter of realism or likeability, it's a matter of this character surviving because of bullshit off-screen shenanigans and pure luck. "Ceiling shotguns" is bullshit, but not because of realism reasons - that at worst is just some wonky rushed artwork. It's fine for her to set up escape routes. It's bullshit because we didn't have any build to it other than "here's a mysterious switch for emergencies" and it was an escape plan that required the police to come get her at work when she is specifically stood at her counter and they are specifically stood in the middle aisle of the store. It's all too contrived and coincidental, because in reality the second she shot the sheriff, the trigger happy cop would have already been unloading into her before she can even flick the switch."Glass Koala" is bullshit not because of how stupid it looked to see him just break so easily, but got how contrived it was as a set-up for plot reasons to get Monica out of the house in a hurry when she was already leaving the house in a hurry. And because of Monica being unceremoniously offed, and him just dying in a fire anyway later as collateral by Sam, it's a moment that in the end adds absolutely nothing to the plot"Owl car" is the actual low point for me despite being the least talked about. Sam can't even lose for two panels, before good fortune blesses her with a free car inexplicably being driven down the alleyway by a guy who despite driving in a straight line did not see nor hear Sam shooting at her own car as is it sped away. Makes Lewis's revenge irrelevant, it doesn't lead to anything for Monica other than her screaming bloody murder, and Sam just Karma Houdini's out of there not because of her master escape plan or intelligence but because the universe decided to just hand her an unearned means of escape.None of this shit is objectively satisfying to read.
>>152767816Homie. Youre complaining about a comic with talking animal people. Its not that deep.
>>152768114reductive replygood image
If Sam was real she'd be on the same level of popularity as The Zodiac Killer They'd probably make a fucking movie about her if she somehow kept hidden.
>>152768258Zodiac Killer? Dude, she pulled off the biggest fucking terrorist attack before 9/11. She would be fucking Osama bin Laden tier. She would be getting raped by the fucking SEALs within 3 days of her "escape"
>>152768114>can't criticise poor writing because the art is animal charactersNot an argument. That Anon is hardly the only one pointing these things out, reaction to the last 3 issues has been markedly more negative than to volume 1 or the first 3 issues of volume 2. Because the writing has been noticeably worse.The most egregious thing volume 1 expected the reader to believe was that Sam wouldn't be investigated any further after Nigel framed her for his murders, and she ran rather than turning herself in and trying prove her innocence. Volume 2 on the other hand expects us to believe she could rig a whole town with remotely detonated firebombs, pull out a gun and shoot a cop at close range without either of his deputies immediately putting her down (who were there to arrest her under the suspicion she was a dangerous killer) and escape from all of this after her identity and crimes became public knowledge (likely front page national and TV news given the shocking severity of them) crossing the entire country in a stolen car without being recognised or apprehended. That's quite a difference in the suspension of disbelief required.
>>152768311This. Because of the caliber of what sam has committed, the whole US is out for her blood. Even though theres only a few witnesses of Sam's crashout. It should be enough to spread word fast. Because of this i hope Sam gets peppered with lead from head to toe.
>>152768409No, you're not allowed to criticize a book about talking animals. Now shut the fuck up and like things or I'll kick your white ass.
>>152768114Are you allowed to praise a comic with talking animal people or is this a one way street?
>>152768777Shut the fuck up and like things.
>>152762763Shut up tripfag.There’s literally no way to unfuck the story unless you retcon volume 2 as a dream.
>>152756432yes, little sempai
>>152768807Shut the fuck up and like things.
>>152762669>how cute>come, let's talk it out>closes the door>you have any relatives, anon?>n-no>good, that'll make it easier>you want rare or raw?>r-raw?>sam quarters anon alive
>>152768823only stupid people like things. smart people can only hate.
>>152768806>>152768823Ok now you’re trying too hard.
>>152768311>O-Sam-a Strong Laden
>>152768745This was before the Internet and all pictures of her were destroyed in the fire.At best, the survivors give descriptions to sketch artists to portray her.Sam will most likely get away with it.
>>152768871Even if she did somehow destroy every photo or local newspaper she was in, in issue 5 of the original volume, the cops in the city had a photo of her on hand already that they were using to try and track her down. And that manhunt was when she was "only" being accused of like 4-5 murders.
>>152764093>HOOOO
>>152769111
>>152767816And her just disappearing her parents and none of their friends even being a little concerned that they haven't heard from them in over a decade (though by RoS Sam could've spun something about them dying of old age and wanting to be buried in Florida).
>>152755852I'm surprised so many people liked the art. The line work was weak and the colors were muddy.
>>152757083It's creator owned. I think he just wants to ride the dead horse for as long as he can.
>>152769768Fun fact, art is subjective and the consensus is the art of Bttwns is wildly praised
>nobody gave me a (you)it's over. my wit has waned. time to die
>>152769934Yes I know and I'm surprised by that; further, I give no fucks about consensus, my own opinions are good enough for me.
>>152769768Eh, it looks nice. It gives everything a cool children's storybook kind of feel which contrasts with the subject material. It's just that the writing is absolute dogshit
>>152768114>appeal to triviality Kill yourself reddit filth
>>152759970The author is a zionist so the message is: "you've gotta just deal with me being evil because it would be worse if you stopped me!" the cooking even ended with a Holocaust (actual dictionary definition means big fire)
>>152768760No
>>152768871> This was before the Internet She literally met the duck on the internet
>>152770868Post your address so I can kick your ass.
>>152767816glass koala didn't even need to happen, all he needed was to bump his head and be in the hospital.
>>152769768It's not boring human shit. That's enough for me.
>>152770008If a tree falls and no one's there to hear it, has it really fallen at all?
>>152756175>there's enough wiggle room to salvage things in Volume 3Unless it was all a dream I cant see this shit getting scrubbed clean.
>>152770846>The author is a zionistThis changes so many things.
>>152762669If you indicated that you know about her: she kills you on the spotIf you played dumb: she strings you on a little bit as a beard before killing you once youre no longer useful
>>152770846>The author is a zionistThat would explain Sam's entire arc this time lol
>>152772533>>152772766Are you really gonna do that, Anons? Just take Anonymous of 4chan's word for it?
>>152773613Theyre what we call retards
>>152768818That twist sucked but as >>152761944 said there were ways it could have worked, but it's obvious that Skottie wants IHF to be in the same status quo.
>>152759591I guess they can pull some "EMS reached her right on time" shit, I mean there were already firefighters putting out the fire out front and the store isn't that big, so yeah.
>>152764093Slampig.
>>152776485Lol LITERALLY
>>152752603I was willing to look past all of the bullshit from Issue 5 because I thought for sure it would end with her getting caught, or even crashing her car during the escape attempt and being killed by an actual bear, giving more significance to the encounter in Issue 1.Couldn't have possibly been more disappointed with the ending. Completely killed any interest I would have had in the next series.
On retrospect he was nowhere as bad as Sam.
>>152778134Or likable
>>152759922He does but he doesnt post anything in it
>>152778134His murders were considerably crueller as he was slicing up people whilst they were still alive and making twisted displays out of them. Sam is still evil, but at least she usually knocks out her victims so they presumably don't feel anything. The only exceptions pre Rite of Spring was the German who was her inexperienced first kill and the two mice.It's what makes her actions in the second volume seem so out of character when she's burning people alive, poisoning her own parents, shooting people, and slitting throats.
>>152778134wasn't that the whole point
>>152778134>>152781425He was worse what the hell are you talking about lol.
>>152778134He was worse. More frequent, more intentionally cruel, and made displays of his kills. I guess main point you can give him is caring about his mom while Sam had no problem killing her parents
>>152758364It is possible with corrupt small town cops and overworked DCF departments
well /co/, would his autism be enough to stop Sam?
This author did a cool One-Shot called Free For All after the first volume. Imma Storytime it sometime
>>152781490Ratboy didn't blow up an entire town
>>152781576Not corrupt, inexperienced and kinda dumb.
>>152781971He's pretty strong, couldn't he just punch her?
>>152768871You're kidding me right? A bunch of people who know who she is saw her. Realistically speaking her ass would be getting ratted out by the gas station owner or her hillbilly neighbours in exchange for the 7-figure reward they'd offer, and then the government would bring thunder down upon her to increase their approval ratings.
>>152781971I know that's not how it works but I'm picturing Sam sticking the syringe in him and it not working lol
>>152781971Fuck no. Btw, how did the anime end? I despised the way the manga did and refuse to see for myself.
>>152759266Maybe she knows someone there who would ensure she's never a suspect
>>152767816>bullshit because we didn't have any build to itThere is a page where she's looking at a box of shotgun shells, so there is the tiniest bit of foreshadowing.I still thing it's like the finale of Breaking Bad where he presses the trunk button and a machine gun pops out.
>>152782018>then the government would bring thunder down upon her to increase their approval ratingsSam getting the Waco treatment by the feds after Monica blows the whistle on her (but faking her own death and disappearing) would actually have been a better idea for the end of this volume, and appropriate for the time period while still allowing for the same kind of explosive action.
>>152782952Instead they seem to be leaning more to making her an Eric Rudolph type
>>152783047>Eric RudolphHuh, hadn't heard of him (not a burger). I suppose that goes to show an identified domestic terrorist could go into hiding and escape justice for a few years. He didn't have quite such a bullshit getaway as Sam though.
>>152781543Or his mom/her ostensible BFF.
Did Chip die?
>>152752603It's typical horror movie sequel escalation. You start with an ordinary story about a serial killer trying to keep her secret from being found out, and two or three sequels later you end with her burning the entire town down to dispose of the evidence.
>>152768848This but unironically tho
>>152784610Yes
>>152781999He could, but he refuses to hit women.I don't think he even got the chance to actually fight her properly in the manga after going through the trouble of putting on the dress and heels before Melon interfered.
I'm just glad Bertie survived
>>152764093I hope her and owlbro reunited in the afterlife and have bedbreaking sex for all eternity.
>>152785296What did happen to her husband? I’d like to know what they were like when they were younger.
>>152785349>What did happen to her husband?Did you read the final issue of Rite of Spring? Sam slit his throat and stole his car.
>>152785401Oh shit, that was him? That’s awful.
>>152785530His name wasn't mentioned but it sure looked like him. I think it probably was meant to be because it makes for another contrast between Nigel's very deliberate, emotive offing of Cherry vs Sam's dispassionate practical dispatching of Howard.The brief look at their home life was a nice aside, showed that while Cherry might have been a cunt to other people it seemed like they genuinely loved each other.
>>152778134No, he was objectively worse. He even considered going after kids.
>>152785204Yeah me too
>>152778134He was a pedo.
>>152785296
>>152785204With how much he appeared in vol2 I expect him to play a big role in the next one. It was already mentioned that he ages way slower than the others so its already set for him to still be around if we have another timeskip
>>152758160>Unless she shows up in the next Volume painted as a panda to mask her identityNow that would be a plot twist. Samantha gets caught not for mass murder and arson, but yellowface. Like Capone getting busted for tax evasion.
next she gets caught by the government and is forced to locate and dig up the bodies and stuff in the woods, and they think she's part of a larger cult/terrorist cell, and don't believe her story that she's just psychotic. She ends up escaping while out in the wreckage of the town, and she manages to make it out through the sewers.
>>152759970>>152761480One anon in a thread years ago pointed out that a part of Sam's philosophy in the original was that she believed her killing pattern was random but that's not the case. She specifically uses people's kindness against them, which was further reinforced in the sequel by showing that her first victims were a trusting naive German guy trying to help her and her own parents. She's the most exaggerated possible example of a malignant personality taking advantage of a high trust society. The author could have done something interesting in showing that the actions of people like Nigel and Sam are what destroyed the environment they relied on to pursue their deranged habits or something like that. Having Monica die for doing the right thing minus the Koala family incident (Pig was 99% Sam) and justify it through a lecture about how obsession leads to self-destruction from an actual unrepentant serial killer and now terrorist is utterly retarded when she faces no consequences whatsoever and supposedly gets to do it all over again.
>>152762669Literally pic related because she's incapable of feeling affection
It really feels like the main writer forgot part of the appeal of Sam was that she was a neat and tidy serial killer. Sure she's evil and has no respect for life but at the same time she's clean kills without torture or needless cruelty and strikes totally at random. she's less an evil slasher villain and more like a walking hazard. if you are unlucky and you run into her than it's just a bad roll on the cosmic deice. Making her not only just kills in loud stupid ways like with guns and fires just totally goes against the kind of killer we knew her as in the original comic. Now she's just another slasher villain missing all the stuff that made her so interesting before. Like what the hell went wrong here?
>>152787081I honestly wonder if this series will try to introduce more serial killers for Sam to fight kind of like Dexter or if Sam will stay the main bad guy all throughout the series. It's still funny to think two serial killers were both in the same town in the first comic that's only part that felt kind of unrealistic since serial killers are rare and don't often run into one another in the wild.
>>152787131I thought they were going down a Mindhunter route where Sam was going to be arrested and detained and the rest of the volume would be the aftermath of the investigation. Plenty of serial killers have narcissistic personalities want some kind of recognition for their crimes. I assumed that was the road they were going down even at the start when Samantha talks about how she's getting bored with her normal routine and when she seemingly resigned herself to her fate after Monica got away.
>>152752603>beneath the trees where nobody seesExcept the bees and the open breeze
>>152787210With a side of cheese
>>152787230Only if you please
How would you make vol 3 peak? I hope the next vol will be better than this but who the hell knows? Either way what would you want to see? besides Sam dying I mean.
>>152787131>what the hell went wrong here?Unexpected popularity, which is both a blessing and a curse. I don't think the story was even supposed to continue, but when you have a hit on your hands (as Beneath the Trees clearly is) then you can either take advantage of that or not, and in a medium as fickle as comics Horvath would have been a fool not to. But I don't think he had any idea where to actually go with Sam in this series that would also ensure she stayed around for the confirmed third series. Rite of Spring started with some good ideas but it feels pretty obvious he's winging it at this point to drag it out for as long as its popularity lasts.>>152787210You do know where the title comes from and there really are more lyrics?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZANKFxrcKU
>>152787241>>152787230>>152787210Shut the fuck up and get on your knees.
>>152785869I don’t think it’s Howard cause it wouldn’t make sense for him, or I guess anyone but especially someone who written to be trying to be risk-averse, to just be driving down an alleyway next to a store where there’s been a shooting and is on fire. Also Cherry has a scene where she says she has problems with bears cause they pushed her kind around, I would think her husband would follow those beliefs to some degree so I’m not sure he would get himself involved with Sam. Did they ever bring up the pred/prey dynamic again or is Cherry just very racist and using what amounts to pseudo race science?
The first volume was derivative from step one. Mostly, it's just Dexter. I can see thinking it's special if you like the art and you're young and haven't seen this enough to know how this is the most cookie cutter serial killer story ever.The second volume started with potential and then shit the bed dramatically. The meme of the super genius serial killer is so overdone and boring that the main character is the least interesting thing in her own series. The most interesting thing that could be done these days is to have a serial killer who's a fucking idiot (see: Jojo).
>>152787306I've never seen it but isn't the whole point of Dexter that he's a serial killer OF serial killers making him a very extreme vigilante, but essentially still a good guy? That seems pretty different to Sam, who's an amoral psycho who kills innocents just to calm her own demons. What would you say makes her more like Dexter than other clever fictional (or even real) serial killers who got away with their crimes for years?
>>152787426Dexter is totally amoral, but due to plot contrivance has been trained only to kill "bad guys." The killing killers thing is just the gimmick that makes it permissible to root for him. The first season is worth your time and makes for a self-contained story. The killing style, the imagery, the characterization of psychopathy, themes, the obsessed competing killer, there's a lot there that this comic pulls from it pretty directly.
>>152787001I wonder if Shame has anything he wants to draw after reading all this crap
>>152752660What was the issue with the IHS ending?
>>152781971Probably not, he's easy as shit to manipulate and the whole story makes it pretty clear the only way Legoshi can put up a fight against any bigger carnivore is if he eats meat himself.>>152782039none of the resolutions people hated about the original ending changed and the epilogue is even more rushed this time around, also the mayor turns evil and Legoshi takes him down the same way he did the lion chief
>>152787901>spoilerWasn’t he always? Whatever, I knew the premise was too shaky was to build anything better. How are Paru’s other works?
>>152788298The main villain should’ve been Yahya why bother building up a nobody?
>>152786913I thought he just wanted to kill kids, fucking them is a step too far.
>>152787131One of many such cases of something that was written as a one-off gets so popular there is demand for a sequel and trying to milk it for all its worth, but the writer clearly never planned that far ahead and rushes to the finish line where they need to escalate stakes whilst making sure it can continue for another sequel.Same thing happened to Squid Game.
>>152789279>>152786913He went after easy, weak targets, and then display their corpses for the widest public shock factor possible. An old man with dementia, a fat woman exhausted from a jog, a near-sighted bumbling man shorter than he was. I know there was more, but we didn't really know much about those as they were one panel kills in a montage, but targeting a kid would have fit perfectly into his MO.The rabbit girl at the café was the one where it may have been more sexual, but we never saw where that one would have ended up as their interaction happens the same day he dies.
>>152789279He wasn't shown doing anything explicitly sexual to his victims, but it definitely felt like he was.
>>152752937>>152759591Huh, I had to look it up. When I first read it, I kind of dismissed that panel as just fire in general and didn't notice her outline. I don't think I want her to come back ala for the sake of revenge. Maybe as a Freddy Krueger induced nightmare that huants the bear.
>>152789512>The rabbit girl at the café was the one where it may have been more sexualAbout that rabbit barista I wonder where she is now
I just know the next volume will be about Sam growing a conscious in the form of burnt duck.
I'm just glad she got out of this happy
>>152789852did she even appear at all?
>>152789512>targeting a kid would have fit perfectly into his MOHe absolutely was. Cat girl from >>152789698 in fact. He might have decided on the rabbit girl after this, but she was clearly in the running to be his next victim. The fact he was still hunting for victims at all proves Nige was totally going off the deep end, keeping on killing even after he'd framed Sam (and knowing his love of spectacle) is probably the dumbest move he could make. But he never got to make it anyway.
Is that drawfriend from the other thread still around? We would love to see more art if possible.
>>152752603Why did she need Monica to get Nigel's box if she was able to plant firebombs across the town?
What a disappointment. Breaking Bad tier cartoony shit.
>>152790412Only Monica possessed the stair throwing power necessary to get through the defenses.
>Furry comic by an obscure artist with a strong concept and excellent start born from years of brainstorming>Absolutely shits itself once the artist's original concept runs out but they try to keep it goingThis is just fucking Beastars again.
>>152787173i think it's ok it's slightly unrealistic, because it's part of the premise
>>152762669>Original run>"Haha, thanks, anon.">Throws it away and ignores you because you probably told your friends and family about her, which is a possible lead if she kills you>EoS>Burns down your grandma's house
>>152788364Yahya is fine as a side character. The real crime is that Paru introduces 800 characters and fucking none of them do anything useful nor stick around for more than a chapter. Why even introduce the SEXOOO rabbit that teaches Legosi the power of LITERAL JOJO STANDS only for both things to vanish immediately and permanently after being introduced?
>>152789867No, she left and is ok now.
>>152791086I feel like the anime is doing the same but with 800 other characters like that one kangaroo.
>>152787306Most serial killers irl are 80 IQ black guys that randomly shoot other 80 IQ black guys (and sometimes strangers) in the back of the head for no reason or a reason that's no flimsy they might as well not even have one. Even the archetypal famous White 20th century ones like Dahmer, Bundy, etc, were at best midwits but even then most are generally dumber than the average population by a good margin. The entire idea of a genius tortured artist serial killer like this comic and also Hannibal, Dexter, etc, is entirely a Hollywood fiction. I would argue that he serial killer suplot in Jojo works so well due to the fact that Yoshikage Kira is a highly entertaining character so he doesn't need a good reason to kill. Another aspect that works in his favour is that stands are basically superpowers which makes it rational that he could get away with his crimes and only be stopped by others with similar powers.
>>152791253What about killers like the Zodiac killer? He got away with it. Not denying most killers are stupid but I doubt every single one of them is dumb.
>>152789977Ironically, his name will now be cleared because of Sam being even dumber and getting all his murders attributed back to her.
>>152791327There are exceptions to every rule of course. It should be noted that the "golden age" of serial killers coincided with high trust post-war America where people left their doors unlocked, hitchhiking was common, and security systems for private homes tended not to exist. The Night Stalker basically just tested people's windows and doors to see if they left them unlocked or removed the screens when they left them open and this was in Los Angeles of all places. There's a reason that kind of serial murder generally disappeared in the 90s when public trust gradually disappeared and things like private security systems for home use and forensics in police departments became commonplace. Which was mentioned in the start of the story but didn't even end up mattering because Sam is a murder sue.
>>152788298I enjoy Beast Complex. It gives some follow ups of some of the Beastar's characters, including smaller roles like a chapter about that lion and rabbit couple. But mostly they are just one-off stories about two random people meeting in the world and finding their middle ground. It's these perfect little contained slices of life which made Beastars so appealing in the first place before Paru fell into the trap of turning it into just another power scaling fighting manga.
>>152791327The Zodiac honestly feels like dumb luck, given that he left survivors and was apparently really clumsy with the cabbie murder and only got away because of a police communications screw-up.
>>152791253>Even the archetypal famous White 20th century ones like Dahmer, Bundy, etc, were at best midwits but even then most are generally dumber than the average population by a good margin.This is what I bring up almost every time serial killers come up. Violent psychopaths are impulsive, dysfunctional, off-putting, and usually pretty dumb. Virtually all of them had the same handful of fucked up childhoods, the same arrest records, the same inability to integrate, and get caught doing the same stupid shit. Every time a serial killer or mass murderer gets caught they interview a bunch of people who knew him and they all act like nobody could've seen it coming because "he was a master manipulator," which is bullshit. It only seems that way because these killers fill their lives with naive, stupid people and everyone else keeps their distance. You can't be a fucked up, antisocial psycho murderer and effectively blend into a crowd of normal people. The only reason they get away with it for any amount of time is that people are, for the most part, minding their own business. I'm fine with playing with the archetype, but writers always resort to Dexter and Hannibal as if that's the default.https://youtu.be/p7RatR1AEPc?si=tW7PeOkM9zv7d8wk
>>152791514dragging people off and doing it, no. but you can also have more sophisticated type like those doctors and nurses who 'help' kill their patients
What is the most accurate portrayal or a serial killer in fiction?
>>152791514>>152791575Most genuinely intelligent psychopaths unironically gravitate towards fields like business and medicine. Careers that traditionally make good money and raise your status and also where being better at handling anti-social situations that would be difficult for normal people like screwing people over monetarily and dealing with sickness/injury/death on a regular basis. Another thing is that most psychopathy is fairly innocuously anti-social and murder let alone calculated serial murder is a very extreme act even by psychopath standards. Most "psychopathy" in average low class career criminals is just people who're so stupid that they're incapable of feeling empathy because putting themselves in another person's shoes is beyond what their brain is capable of. It's trite at this point but the original "how would you feel if hadn't had breakfast this morning?" greentext explains this fairly well.
>>152791675That one black guy in the wire who confesses to murder because the detectives gaslit him into thinking the office fax machine was a lie detector.
>>152791675It's in Silence of the Lambs, but it's not Lecter. Buffalo Bill is basically just made as a combination of the more factual traits of real life serial killers.
>>152791514I think people it's a consequence of people just taking media tropes and exaggerations at face value. People also talk about how charismatic and suave Jeffrey Epstein was but if you watch any interviews with him (the Bannon one is a good example) he sounds like a stereotypical whiny neurotic New York Jew who you wouldn't trust to sell you a car. Guys like Bundy generally preyed on people who were naïve and as stupid or much stupider than them and took their obvious lies at face value.
>>152752660I feel like that's asking if being sodomized in your eye socket was a worse experience than being sodomized in your ear canal.Neither experience is worth having and both should be seen as god awful.
>>152791086Sure but I didn’t like him. I don’t know, I wish he got his ass beat a little more.
>>152752603Still would fuck the bear
I miss it when Sam could be scared. One big problem I have with ROS is Sam is never challenged. she felt so much more real in the original comic I hate that she's basically a Batman villain now.
>>152794604This. I don't care that she got away with it, I care that their were never any sense of stakes. At no point were you ever thinking she could lose and one of the three pillars of that was she never got scared or panicked. When in the second issue she was taking it so casually that the map almost exposed her as the killer I just stop reading and pop back in when the last issue drop because sure enough, the whole fucking book was "all according to keikaku" bullshit.
>>152787271You're gonna suck on bofadees.
>>152794604>Acts terrified of getting caught >10 years later "fuck it time to bomb the whole town I've tried so hard to keep in normality" I just don't get it man. I was hoping the big thing for this comic was development around Woodbrook was going to revel her murders and she's trying everything in her power to stop that from happening but no that's not what happened Sam for some reason no longer gives a fuck if people find her murder stashes. she really feels like a different character now. I know 10 years can change a person but not that fucking much.
Give Sam this. She looks amazing for her age.
>>152794765Nigga, she is a cartoon bear
>>152791675Like the other anon said, Silence of the Lambs and Red Dragon are pretty good, though I've only read the book of the latter. They go over the top sometimes, but the characterization isn't too extreme. Hannibal is made more interesting and threatening because he lives in a world of otherwise normal killers. I do not recommend the Hannibal series. Every killer in that one is some elaborate murder artist and the detective basically has superpowers.
>>152794721This seems to be Sam's mid-life crisis.
>>152794849Where do you think we are?
>>152794765Okay Nigel
>>152794870Cartoons don't ageWhich means the sentence is meaningless
>>152752603glad i'm not the only one that thought the ending was complete shit
Why friend shaped?
>>152791409I was really enjoying the whole murdered amongst the students mystery and Legosi trying to solve it and his internal suffering and struggle to keeping away from meat. and then he eats Louis's leg and goes literally super Saiyan against the Bear so it was hard to continue to care once Legosi moves in to that marine creature appartment
I decided to go back and read the whole thing again from the beginning today. I still like Volume 1 and the first half of Volume 2, the moment Sam is revealed to have killed her parents remains the moment the comic started to turn for me. It felt out of character, it felt against her rules. After that, as others have pointed out, it's like Sam was no longer the same character. Which might make sense if it was a contemporary event that changed her, but it's a flashback that precedes even the entire first volume. So it's isn't Sam who changed at that moment, it's the way she was being written. She's no longer careful and calculated and knows one slip-up could cost her everything, she's an unnecessary risk taker the story bends around to allow her to win. It's like Sam doesn't exist within the world any more, the world exists for Sam.The other stand-out difference in Rite of Spring is that Bertie's B-plot has no real connection to the main plot at all. As it's own story of a loner guy who comes out of his shell (lol) and becomes a local hero it's fine, but what did that have to do with anything else? Everything in Volume 1 somehow connected back into the main plot. Bertie's story just didn't and combined with Sam's bulletproof bullshit that just compounded the feeling of the finale being kind of a nothingburger.
>>152796269One thing I don't think anyone has mentioned yet but it really feels like there was barely any surreal imagery in this one. Every issue of the first series had lots of unsettling imagery that was surreal or dream like. It feels like we get hardly any of that in ROS. the only thing that comes to mind is Sam imagining her cut up parents at the dinner table.
>>152794604THISOne thing that kills the series 2 is that Sam is never on the backfoot. When Nigel framed Moledad's death on her, she was panicked and scared and almost lost herself.Series 2 Sam just isn't allowed to be weak like that. But it also feels unearned. Sam doesn't escape because she's a smart planner who is playing 4D chess. Things just work out due to dumb luck. Her ceiling shotgun trap (which shouldn't even work) only works because the cops stopped her at the hardware store instead of her house or on the street. She only gets away because someone randomly drives down the alley when she needs a getaway vehicle.
>>152794604>>152796562I think that ROS would've worked better as the third part of a trilogy and there was another story set between it and the first series. Some other obstacle that Sam overcomes that makes it feel like she's earned the way she acts in ROS. Also, her parents aren't dead, they really did move to Florida, maybe have them return for a visit. And then they can die during the time skip leading up to ROS.
>>152790331I'm still here. for now
It would be funny in Part Three if Sam in hiding gets kidnapped by a copycat serial killer who idolizes her but doesn't know he just kidnapped her.
>>152797262Please draw art of Sam being captured or killed by a FBI swat team
>>152752603oh my god bear is driving how can that be
>>152797262She doesn’t look very sorry. She’s so awesome.What’s the funniest thing you can imagine about the series and can you draw it?
>>152797262Draw Sam pretending to be a Panda and getting accused of racism.
>>152797657You're not gonna believe what else she does. She owns and operates power tools.
>>152798007>She operates power tools.Incorrect. We see her handling the tools, but there's no evidence that she had any idea what she was doing with them. Most likely she was just imitating something she'd seen a human do like an orangutan playing with a hammer. There's something seriously wrong with your story if you ever have a bear operating power tools.
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>>152752603Oh yeah, I'm feeling big horror movie franchise energy and I am here for it.How long till Sam is a space cyborg?
>>152787639I did think of a morbid lil reunion with Cherry and her recently deceased husband.Him going "She can still give great head"
>>152797262Can you draw her getting her butt smacked or groped
>>152797262"Yup. Don't know WHAT I was thinking. Never happen again. Promise."
>>152794849COMIC bear. Comic characters age.
>>152794604Sam didn't like being scared. She took steps, and prepared once the heat was off her, so now she can be calm and analytical and have a protocol for if she ever got caught. And you can see the payoff. She'll be a fool to keep doing things the same way with no backups in place.
>>152791334But will that ever happen? The town is fucked. She would surely get off scot-free if she had rigged the police station instead of the hospital, but we'll see how this plays out.
>>152789852Probably got herself a couple used crash test dummies for some crazy four ways
>>152796269Moniqa's whole arc was completely wasted. She better come back to haunt her and give us more surreal stuff. Pic kinda related
>>152787748It generally refers to >>152756432 (Which is not even the ending of the run or of vol 6, it's the final page of Revival issue #7). Most don't like what happens here because it singlehandedly ruins I Hate Fairyland's sequel's initial premise of the now grown up main character returning to Fairyland for new adventures and it instead makes everything that happened in the original run retroactively meaningless by having her get killed by a time-displaced version of herself in order to return the series to its original status quo.
>>152794765>>152762669Do NOT fuck the psycho bear, have you guys learned nothing?!
>>152787247>How would you make vol 3 peak?Go full American Psycho, ramp up the absurdity of the kills and imply the murders/arson/ceiling shotguns didn't actually happen and Sam's mental state is deteriorating.
>>152798439Great job anon
>>152798480That sounds like an ironically great time. Did you draw >>152798741 too because it’s no good to give the wrong guy credit
>>152796269sam killing her parents sucked because there WOULD be a paper trail for two missing corpses who had friends. if she really had to kill them, she should have made it look like an accident
>>152800235She faked their deaths by making it looked like they moved to Florida or something, though that's not much better.
>>152797262requesting Sam going feral and chasing after Monica while naked and on all fours.
Imagine being the parents of these two. both murdered by the same God damn serial killer years apart in fucked up graphic ways. I would frankly want 24 hour protection for my whole family at that point since I would start to think Sam was targeting my family personally.
>>152801065Was the time skip really only 8 years?
>>152799887Yup das me as well
>>152789977As a little side note, it was kinda interesting seeing kitty cat girl as a teen looking like a mid stage Pokemon evo between a cat and a tiger, a little detail I did like from the book.
>>152794849OUT OF TEN
>>152796025See, even that was a killer idea after the dumb shonen battle, but Paru let the spirit of her father overtake her and continue to make the series about dumb battles.>Dedicate a chapter to a neat new perspective of a borderline suicidal pygmy sheep MILF>She never does anything ever again despite being Legosi's neighbor and being the catalyst for a short arc and only reappears (doing nothing) because Paru likes her
>>152801178You’re the man, Shame. An orca thread is up now too and I’m now thinking of a Sam/Grace crossover because of that comic where IDW properties go over to DC. I would love to see what a pissed off Orca would do to Nigel’s scrawny ass.
>>152801689I love Sam, but this is embearrassing in retrospect. Why did DC agree to cuck their iconic characters like this? Is it just the way of entertainment to cuck the old and make way for the new?
>>152801689It's better without the speech bubbles. Her diving in screaming "I'M SAMANTHA STRONG!" is beyond dumb.
>>152801752Fuck me sideways, she really says that? That is completely antithetical to her Yoshikage-esque killing methods. Although I guess you could argue the same about the sequel
>>152791675I'd say Mindhunter but that's barely fiction (at least as far as the serial killers go, I know they made everything up about the detectives' lives)
>>152801813It's not quite that, but close enough.
>>152801897That is some Millennial writing right there.
>>152801725They made Super job to Homelander and Joker job to fucking Annabelle, modern comics literally bow down to synergy
>>152801689No, better yet, Orca would get pissed at Sam for eating her aquatic acquaintances. The battle of the architected /co/ queens to be sure.
>Elevated slasher slock gets sequels that remove the believability and sublett of the original Sam is going to space in the next chapter
>>152795835All adult bears honestly look like they are tired of our shit if you look then in the face, and quite honestly i don't blame them
>>152798480Based.
>>152802058>4,000 years in the future, Bertie, the last living creature on Earth, stands in the ruins of nuclear holocaust, the smoking blaster in his hand, milky white eyes blind with age. It was a lucky shot.>On the ground in front of him, sparking and sputtering, Mecha-Sam lies in a pool of her own blood and oil. As she stares up through the burnt and twisted branches of the trees above, her vision fades.>She closes her eyes. Everything looks the same.>"So... this is it. We truly are Beneath the Trees Where Nobody Sees.">She dies. Bertie falls to his knees and weeps.>SAMANTHA STRONG WILL RETURN IN AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY
>>152802058Alluded from the mention of how many fans she has, Sam will start a cult who follows her methods, making tracing her more difficult due to copycats(who may or may not be actual cats).Story will follow the two mole brothers and kitty cat girl now a fully grown tiger woman investigating the crimes.And sure is the 2000's Sam's cult orchestrated 9/11 why the fuck not. Oh and Cherry's unmentioned son dies just to keep the Gherkins dying every volume.
>>152803506>Oh and Cherry's unmentioned son dies just to keep the Gherkins dying every volumeA owlpig would be pretty cool but can different species even breed in this setting? I don't think I've seen any hybrids. Or maybe it works like Elder Scrolls and the kids are always the mother's race.
>>152803506Bertie will be returning as Welles CrowtherThe moles will go bankrupt after putting all their money into Enron
>>152802093It's weird how they have such mobile, maneuverable lips compared to other creatures with muzzles. They have lips like horses.
>>152801689>the bald fears the ursine
>>152801225TIL tigers are born with their stripes
>>152802007the word you're looking for is 'bad' anon
>>152802058Here's how I predict the sequel to go. >She manages to hide out under a new identity and remains hidden for a while>But she gives into temptation and kills again. Starting a whole new investigation. >The internet exposes her, the way it exposed a lot of IRL killers. Leaving her nowhere to hide. >The Possum kid hunts her down to get revenge believing she killed his dad>There's an OJ style manhunt for her and she has to duck the authoritie.s >She gets captured and put on trial, the Lawyer argues she's just crazy, not evil. >She gets life in prison, adjusts to life behind bars alongside other killers.
>>152804761Bro, what are you, a thesaurus? I already said Millennial
>>152802008Who won?
>>152777523>being killed by an actual bear, giving more significance to the encounter in Issue 1I was kinda expecting something like that too.
>>152804838Sounds like a solid idea anon, at what part of the book do you reckon she'll fight lex luthor?
>>152805241they meet in prison and she beats his ass in the cafeteria (they sent luthor to bear prison in a bearocratic mixup)
I want to fuck the duck
>>152805241I don't think that's going to be remain canon.
>>152791675The coin tosser in No Country for Old Men.
>>152805354>Lex is too twink for Bear Prison>Decides to bulk up>40 cakes a day diet makes him develop a protective layer of fat.>changes name to Fisk and moves to new york assets and all>Sam still finds and pegs himGenius anon! I shall pay you in rape dollars
>>152806063Only the crossover is canon
>>152797768I couldn't really think of anything particularly funny so here's a Simpsons>>152797947https://files.catbox.moe/rj9noe.png>>152798554https://files.catbox.moe/l0cjbp.png
>>152790869>Have a neat, self-contained story>Can even do a prequel because you left a decent amount of blanks in the lore>Decide to throw it all away on a pointless sequel Why do artists do this?
>>152806587You rock anon
>>152806587Perfect. Thank you so much. Don’t stop thinking of funny stuff and drawing it down.
>>152797262Hey if you're still open to requests, how about Molly watching a news report with her dummy and going, glad we left that shithole.
>>152807093Seconding. That’s what I think happened. Have her hook up with a guy who has his own trauma dummy
I think Monica and Samantha should've kissed at least once. There was toxic yuri potential there.
>>152807287If there's one thing I can respect about this series is that they do make it clear Sam is a true psychopath who has no love or care for anyone at all. Could've easily made her a lesbo but they didn't she is 100% asexual.
>>152806587I'm glad to see more of Wes.I have a couple of questions about her.Is she the same age as Sam, or is she a little younger?What's the city and state like where she lives (which are obviously the opposite of Woodbrook and Vermont)?
>>152800446https://files.catbox.moe/alxkcr.png>>152808109I think of her as quite a bit younger, being maybe mid twenties during the events of the first volume. As for where she lived I always just thought of her as being in Woodbrook and only as Sam's opposite in terms of personality.
>>152808176Thanks for answering my question.As for a specific state, I imagined a southern state (like Tennessee, Florida, or even Texas) and a fairly large city (Houston, Austin in Texas, Tampa in Florida, Nashville in Tennessee, etc.).Even so, I'm very happy for our beloved panda.
>>152806587this is funny thoughmore parody stuff with the woods gang would be neat
>>152808176>https://files.catbox.moe/alxkcr.pngWould you be able to di the reverse with Monica burning alive on all fours after Sam
>>152806587>https://files.catbox.moe/l0cjbp.png>ywn grab that nice ass without being slaughteredThe biggest crime Sam commited wasn't just the murders, it's having plump body and nice rear while also being asexual.
>>152805703Get in line.
Today is my birthdayAnd Please make a drawing of an alternate universe of beneath the trees where nobody sees, where everything is just the set of a TV show or a Slasher movie.with all the characters actually being actors and also the film crew, cameras, director, etc.
>>152752703>>152784610>>152784720low key wanted to fuck Chip, sad he literally caught strays lmaoBefore I got around to reading the last two issues, I figured the town would be the safest place to be in its universe because Sam doesn't hunt there, it'd be peak comfyEnding kind of makes it sound like they're going for a reset of setting with effectively the same premise as before. Maybe some new ideas require a new town that functions differently. Really dropped the ball on the transition, though.
>>152808176>Sam chases Monica all across Woodbrook while totally naked and feral and everyone just thinks another bear got into town and they capture Sam and send her to a Zoo to live her days as a captured animal
>>152752603This whole thing reminds me of Breaking Bad constantly doing insane shit.
>>152787247Full Nuclear Holocaust.
>>152785204Bertie is the best character
>>152811115He’ be the last one online
>>152752603qrd?
>>152811776Bear would quickly run you down.
>>152811776An interesting perspective turns into pure fantasy.
>>152791675Have you noticed we don't have many famous serial killers anymore? Instead people have been made to focus on mass shooters who shoot their load off in one rampage that makes national headlines. The recent "ISIS" shooter killed like maybe one person? They treat it like a video game where they want the highest body count so the news will gush over them.But where are the creepy clown serial killers who just kill random people for their own depraved pleasure and not to one-up some mass shooter. It's weird how that doesn't happen so much anymore.
>>152811976It probably does still happen. these freaks just try to keep it a lot more secret about it now. I mean just look at Epstein
Also, I really hate how they made Sam murder her parents for no reason. Her backstory would've had more impact if they were still alive and found out their daughter was a serial killer via the news, we could've seen them have their own arc where they blame themselves for her behavior and wonder where they went wrong. What an awful ending overall. Anyway, hope we get some fanart of Sam x Monica.
>>152812126>epstein>secretPeople have known about that international pedophile since decades by this point.It's just that mainstream media ridiculed and mocked any mention of it. Remember the Hillary emails?
>>152811976As Rite of Spring alluded to, it got a lot harder to go unnoticed. Security cameras everywhere, license plate recognition, everyone carrying a phone at all times. There's a reason most of the famous serial killers we know about are from the 1960s to 1980s, after mass media like TV news became more prevalent but before all the surveillance in society (that would probably have caught a lot of them easily) existed. Who knows how many people got away with murder before then though, when it was even easier for people to just disappear and not so widely reported.
>>152807388>Could've easily made her a lesboI mean. It does take place in Vermont in the 80s-90s, it wouldn't have been that out of place.
Not enough Melody love itt
>>152809760She convinces a female new hire to bring her some clothes. That newbie brings along some other employee she was sweet on. Sam dresses and is let out, while the employees try to figure out how this happened. Sam kills them both, beats and cuts them up to look like a feral bear mauling, tosses the bodies into the enclosure and takes one of their cars. Back in business!
>>152806587Can you do something in Seth MacFarlane style next? Then maybe South Park?
>>152812488>>152807388She does have the build and dressing style of a bulldyke. Her attitude is too calm, "kind", and collected for that however.
>>152794765Still would.
>>152806587"Why you little- I'll! teach you how to be a serial killer!"
>>152811976With cameras everywhere and the internet hive mind, it's pretty much impossible to get away with a crime like you could in the 80s like Sam does.
>>152815240>counterchoke"Why you big- you killed my brother!!"
>>152813925She dresses practically. Normal for a woman who works with tools. Normal women who focus on dressing "pretty" wear bullshit clothes that can cause snags and injuries in a hardware store.
>>152798480hot
>>152808176>tfw bear attack
>>152802008>They made Super job to HomelanderI don't even know how this would be possible. Homelander is much weaker than Superman. He has eye lasers, but so does Supes and it's a wash, and Superman has fought and defeated dozens of people with his own exact powerset before, Homelander would barely be a footnote.
>>152816659Did Garth Penis write this comic or what?
>>152807093I'm assuming you meant melody there.
>>152817946ROS really didn't feel the same without Melody. still I'm glad she still gets to hump her cotton husband in peace.
>>152813898>Lenient policies for criminals also fudge the numbers as well I would assume.It's actually even more deliberate than that. The definitions governments use have been reinterpreted to hide actual crime rates. You just change how a crime is defined, then boast about how that crime is down 100% since you took office.
>>152752603They really jumped the shark with this one. Having the main serial killer destroy the entire town is too goofy. This series would be better off more grounded, like Prisoners, I Saw The Devil, or Henry Portrait of A Serial Killer but with talking animals.
>>152813898There are a lot of black criminals. But there are surprisingly very few black serial killers.
>>152752603>>152752660I personally liked it, in like a trashy horror movie sequel sort of way. How would you fix it?
>>152802058To be fair, Jason X is the only slasher film I care about
>>152808652
>>152818904That’s a lot funnier than I thought it woukd be. Now how about the still alive Monica and the non-feral Sam run into each other like in an older cartoon where they bump into each other locking arms and legs in the air. I wish I had a picture of it
>>152806587>blackandwhiteface
Didn't bother reading the storytime. Why did the bear lady go full Kaczynski on society?
>>152819951For the hell if it would be my guess. She’s lived long enough for it too
>>152818415This. UK is particularly bad about it - Home Office actually redefined crime rate statistics so they would be based on closure rates rather than incident rates.
samantha paws
>>152752603Im surprise there isn't fanart of a crossover between this and night in the woods.
>>152818446>I Saw The Devil>grounded
>>152752603There are rumors that Netflix wants to do an animated adaptation. What type of animation do you expect them to use? I’m hoping for something life left, but this being Netflix we’re probably getting something more like right.
>>152821564>*like left
I legit think it would've been a better idea to make this series an anthology showing the grisly crimes that happen out of sight of this otherwise charming animal world. Like the next comic shouldn't even been about Sam maybe show what a mob family does to revival gang members by killing them out in the woods. show other aspects of crime and darkness that happens outside the view of everyone.
>>152821790>everyone is a killer by Richard Scarry
>>152797657lmao
>>152821794kek, would read.
>>152821564To make this work it can't be animated like Bojack or Family guy. It has to be animated like a PBS kids show. It needs to shock the audience with that contrast like the original comic did. Wholesome PBS kids style friendly animation style like Arthur or The Busy World Of Richard Scarry, contrasted with moments of shocking violence.
>>152821794Richard Scarry was obviously the biggest inspiration art-wise on Beneath The Trees.
>>152821306Reading a book, having some cookies and taking a bubble bath like she didn't just cut an innocent duck up into pieces.
>>152819951>>152820143She knew that after the close call with Nigel, it was only a matter of time before she got exposed, so she made those fire bombs because she knew that burning the town down was the only way she could dispose of the evidence of 40+ murders in one fell swoop.
>>152822970>the only way she could dispose of the evidence of 40+ murdersIf it was actually about disposing of evidence it might have been slightly less retarded but Sam did all her murdering away from the town. That was like her No.1 rule. There was no evidence in town apart from Nigel's hidden stash, which would have remained hidden if she hadn't had Monica very publicly steal it (and Sam who lives in Woodbrook could easily have monitored the Koala family and quietly broken in and taken it without anyone knowing at any time in the previous 8 years) and the cans she dug up with Monica and Monica then absconded with to the cops. Why did she do any of that? No-one fucking knows, which is one of the problems of this volume.
>>152823026>Why did she do any of that? No-one fucking knows, which is one of the problems of this volume.It could have worked if the surveyor hadn't caught them digging up the paint buckets. She had to have known eventually some land developer would eventually want to buy the woods, and once they started felling trees and digging up land to lay foundation for a new condo the jig was going to be up.
>>152822940For her, it was basically like jacking off to a dude, just not sexual. Stress relief, not some huge, heinous deal. The original series made this pretty clear.
>>152821794Fiona CatDeputy FloNurse NellyMiss Honey...would.
>>152822888in fact of course
>>152759591The panel shows the entire room as being fully engulfed in flames. Even in the unlikely event that the flames and heat didn't cook her to death by that point, smoke/fumes and lack of available oxygen likely would have.
>>152820394Brits are just terrible. The whole place is basically RL Animal Farm. Pigs at the top not giving a fuck, and the rest are just sheep content to bleat online and do nothing irl but wave signs like a bunch of dumbass women who think shouting "shame!" at someone actually DOES anything. The pigs in THIS situation don't even have an equivalent of dog enforcers. It's just more soft-ass pigs, yet the sheep refuse to start butting.
>>152823416Yes but notice I said "the quality of over the top writing we have now".The writing is no longer realistic. Sam has like Joker levels of plot armor now and is doing shit like ceiling shotgun traps. For this reason, I would not at all be surprised if duck girl still managed to survive and show up in volume 3. As unrealistic as that seems because we are not dealing with realistic shit anymore.
>>152823077>It could have workedWHAT could have worked though? That's my point. Sam's reasons for wanting to get rid of the evidence are perfectly understandable. Her reasons for involving Monica in any of this stuff she could just have done herself, making it massively more risky (and ultimately backfiring) are not. None of the negative consequences for Sam at the end of Rite of Spring would have happened if she hadn't involved Monica, and we never got any explanation for why she did.It was set up in the first few issues to look like Sam had a plan and a reason for involving Monica (people including myself were speculating she was going to frame her for her brother's murder to get her out of the way as someone who was looking too deeply into her crimes and therefore a risk). Now that it's over we can still only speculate, because if Sam had a plan it's not clear what it was.
>>152823885For me the setup makes sense but it's the payoff that doesn't. The only satisfying way stories like this can end is the villain's fatal flaw finally doing them in. Sam was thrillseeking and it led to her being unmasked. The unsatisfying part is that she wriggled out of the consequences.
>>152823885Sam had no plan. The closest thing we can have to making any sense of it is just thinking Sam got bored so decided to act pants on head retarded to see what it would be like.
>>152823762Speaking of plot armor, shooting the sheriff should've resulted in Sam getting blown full of holes by the deputy almost immediately, before she could even reach for the button. Hell, the white dog already had his weapon drawn by that point.
>>152791086She just wanted to make a Baki reference.
>>152824113You know what, I'll add to my comment: I would've been satisfied with Sam getting away if there was at least a gunfight in which Monica and at least some of the deputies survived.
>>152802058>Beneath the Trees where Nobody Sees>Beneath the Tress 2: Rite of Spring>Beneath the Trees 3: Ursa Major (in space)>Beneath the Trees 4: In Da Hood
>>152824113It's such a small detail but it goes to show how retarded the writer is. There was already a trigger happy cop pointing a gun at Sam in that very scene.Sam has the element of surprise and she shoots the one cop on her side instead of the cop who is an imminent danger. >>152823762In a real scenario, pic-related would have filled Sam full of bullets immediately the moment she went full retard and started killing cops.
>>152821564wow, im guessing in the sequels and this series sam will be teaming up with Diane from Bojack Horseman and get every successful man to kill himself like Diane did with bojack so only women will be successful, knowing Netflix and this book series it'll definitely be something along thouse lines
What´s next for Sam?
>>152824500>knowing Netflix and this book seriesWhat makes you think Beneath the Trees has any kind of man hating agenda? Sam's an equal opportunity murderer just as willing to kill Monica as she was her brother. Bertie was the most heroic character in this volume and Lewis was brave enough to try and stop Sam from making her getaway even though it could easily have cost him his life.
>>152802007I am not watching that slop
>>152811976Israel KeyesThe Long Island Serial killerthat Craigslist killerthat nurse in the UK recently
>>152801689why doesn’t Lex put on a helmet?
>>152826481The asshole deity that sent him into the Beneath The Trees-verse also sabotaged his armor.
>>152823946And it was surprisingly effective. I wish there was a scene as she left town with her looking amazed, saying out loud "I can't believe that WORKED!"
>>152827072Sam basically explicitly said that every time it seems like she's fucked beyond belief that somehow she'll find a way out of it.It reminds me of Master Chief. One of his "powers" is that he is just super lucky. It's stupid but it's canon for why he survives all sorts of shit he shouldn't have.
>>152817946amazing
>>152825258All of those but the nurse are from a decade and half ago.
So what was the point of the real bear being shot? I was certain Sam was gonna get shot by the sheriff as a nice callback, instead we got go go gadget ceiling shotguns
>>152828611>So what was the point of the real bear being shot?Probably to set up our expectations for how Sam's story would end, only to subvert them. Y'know, like a lot of writers.
>>152828611I am fully convinced executive meddling kicked in at the half way point and pressured for a different ending
>>152828611>>152828645They did the same thing in the first one with the one bear killing the other trying to take its food but that was played straight.
>>152828611S Y M B O L I S M
>>152824796I was referring to what will happen if Netflix makes an animated adaptation of these books, I haven't read them much so I'm not sure if they do have a man-hating agenda, I never said they did but I know Netflix does so im predicting what will happen if Netflix makes that adaptation.
>>152813731>>152808384>Samantha! This is worse than the time you firebombed the town!>>152819671>run into each other like in an older cartoon where they bump into each other locking arms and legs in the air.Like this? https://files.catbox.moe/xahdsf.png
>leave sam to me.
>>152817946Atleast Melody is safe. Unless in the next volume Sam starts to bomb Las Vegas or whatever cities there is in the Southwest and Melody just happens to be living there.
>>152830556it sound like you enjoy complaining to me. stop having such a negative outlook on life it will just turn you into an incel.
>>152831360Weird way to hold a fork..
But what if Monica raped Sam?
>>152834330Gordon, pls.
>>152811976DNA evidence, victims phone constantly giving a direct trail to where they are even if it's destroyed,more people just generally aware not to trust strangers as with Dahmer, Bundy, and Gacy most killers are just normal looking dudes.Everyone likes to think serial killers are some 4D chess masters but all of them are caught pretty quickly now after their first victim while a few get away with it because they travel like nomads and kill hitchhikers and people generally nobody cares about anymore.
>>152802058i am interested in an interview to explain how the fuck the plot went off the rails batshit.editor?
>>152827500It seems relevant, those are all 21st century examples. There's a bunch of others like serial shooters caught in the last few years but they are all same-y and hardly worth remembering by name.
>>152830801AND EVEN A BEAR
>7 daysWhy
>>152838574People have a lot to say about this series.
>>152835329I forget who, but an IRL serial killer actually stopped his spree because he became too paranoid about DNA evidence.
>>152835329The best way to be a Serial Killer and get away with it for more than 3 kills is to uproot your life, go off-grid and be a traveling man. Go around killing random people that aren't connected to you while doing odd-jobs to support yourself. Get a hotel room, motel room and get a good feel of the area, find a potential victim, kill them and start moving out again and repeat the process. No one but a very small few will ever do this though because it requires commitment and most of these guys can't wait for more than a month and that's only if they feel the heat is too hotThis or be a gay pedophile and somehow hook yourself up with a child sex trafficking ring that also produces Snuff Film like Dean Corll and Gacy. You'll basically be getting away with it for as long as you are useful and careful yourself
>>152839545you would have more luck becoming a nurse or similar and killing old people in a care home, but thats not as sexy
>>152839599The thing with that is it all depends on how willing the Hospital is to ignore your crimes because your colleagues will definitely figure out it's you killing the babies and elderly You've put your Serial Killing on a shelf life and it can end as soon as the patients families start noticing a pattern, the Hospitals can't keep playing out-potato with you foreverI'd say join the military and push yourself to be involved in active warzones just so you can pick off random sheep herders since there's plenty of psychos in the military who joined specifically to do shit like that but your average Serial Killer is a nitwit coward who wants easy targets that don't fight back
>>152752603Realistically. Where can the story go from here?
>>152840652Honestly theres a lot >nation wide manhunt ala (7even/Zodiac)>another serial killer is willing to help find Sam>Lewis goes rogue and hunts Sam>Sam continues killing like the Zodiac killer where here presence is hard to detect
>>152785869one of the few things I like about this book is that crts seem to still exist in it's world
>>152842056Anon, it takes place in the 80s, of course there would be CRTs.
>>152842342More like the 90s, turtle man was essentially using AOL CDs to use the internet.
>>152842342>>152842550Volume 1 takes place in 1986 and Volume 2 eight years later in 1994, dates are seen and mentioned.
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>>152843445I was wondering when the toxic yuri fanart was going to happen
>>152843445>Local bully no longer so tuff after being molested.
>>152823762>>152824445the absolute millisecond one of these fuckers see her AIMING GUN shot they'd all go trigger happy on Sam. this ebin Joker trap absolutely ruined the grounded writing
>>152827145The point of Chief's luck is that he made his own luck, ie, he wouldnt need to be "lucky" is he didnt do all the crazy suicidal heroic shit he did to save humanity. Putting himself in those high risks situations is how he make his own luck. thats the whole point of "make your own luck" irl.
>>152843889Future writers can retcon what it means for Master Chief to have high luck. They can have your interpretation of what it means to have "luck". But in the books they acted like Master Chief's "luck" was an inherent part of who he is.Like if he was an RPG character he would have like a 15/10 in the LUCK stat. Yes I realize this doesn't make much sense, but when you're writing about a power fantasy character who is the strongest, fastest, coolest guy ever then in the attempts to make him seem like the most amazing person in existence the books had to resort to "um also he's super lucky in all things".It's stupid but "Master Chief has supernatural levels of luck" is canon.
>>152843990On the TV show/miniseries John is revealed to not really predict a coin toss, but actually know with certainty.
>>152797262I really want to archive this pic
Oh hey this thread is still up. the next part of the Beneath the Trees where Nobody sees x Zootopia comic is ready.
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>>152844858That's all for now. Chapter 4 coming soon.
>>152839545wrong. The best way to get away as a serial killer is to go to america and start killing homeless people. noone cares about them, noone can identify them and noone can track them. Just tell one youre gonna pay him 500 bucks for a bj, invite him in your car, tell him to drink some water before it because you dont want unsanitised homeless mouth on your dick, theres sleeping drugs in the drink, drive out to bumfuck nowhere and kill him there. And this doesnt even mention other shit like how you could just go to the hood and start killing blacks there. Just rotate with new york, chicago, new orleans and los angeles and any murder will be pinned on rival gang members
>>152840652More cashgrab nonsense because the author is just trying to milk this as much as he can
>>152843445>I knew it would work.
>>152823946Isn't that pretty accurate to most serial killers? They get bored and sloppy.>>152827145>>152843889>>152843990>No TTRPG starring Sam What would the skills be
>>152825258And that Canadian who raped and tortured gays and homeless dudes before burying the bodies in different people's yards as part of his landscaping (or whatever) job.
