I post Belle.
Does sage have a bellybutton
Why is it literally just robo Starro? Does this tie into the DC crossover or something?
Extra stuff
>>152778946So Sonic literally just got put in time out for a while so Belle and Sage could carry the plot
>>152778949Sage fans rejoice, it is physically possible to embrace her.
Sage a cute
fin.
>>152778927I assume it's supposed to be a modified Asteron from Sonic 2, but the choice to make it purple and control someone via attaching to their face seems like a nod at the very least.
>>152778938>>152778942
>OP isn't that faggot who thinks he's hilarious commenting and seething on every page he posts, he just comes in, posts the comic, is doneno matter how bad the comic is, thank you OP for being a good storytimer
That's it? Good fucking lord, they really want to reach that 100th issue benchmark in the slowest way possible.
>>152779028Yeah I didn't really hate anything in this issue but that's not a huge accomplishment since barely anything happened.
>>152778942>>152778946>Oh, now what?!>I know it's dark in here, but that can't be normal...I'm unsure what this scene depicts. By "dark", does she mean spooky? It seems the punctured hole is releasing thick fog, so she comments on it being spooky. Or the space beyond the hole is abnormally dark, which isn't true few panels later.It's likely the fog being released.
>>152778949Metal the loli snatcher
The ghost room is consistent, so Sonic isn't just high on drugs.
>>152779070Yeah I thought that line was weird in that context too. I thought they were going to find an impossibly deep hole on the next page (hense darker than expected) but it was literally just Sonic and Metal beyond a busted wall.
>>152778906>no waySonic didn't say that echo.
>>152778919Oh, okay, this is a Mephiles thing.
I'm going to give this storyline the benefit of the doubt, but I hope they have a good reason for this mysterious threat to be able to lock out Sage, who was able to figure out ancient tech that made the Chaos Emeralds seem mundane, with little trouble. I don't even think I'd be satisfied even with it being Starline returning at this point. It would have to be some kind of proto Sage Eggman forgot to mention or Eggman Nega at this point.
>>152779099Wasn’t this a tease for the Shadow one-shot? I wonder how much that getting cancelled screwed things up.
>Sage can't just teleport out of a cave>Sage can't just run simulations to find the best way out>Sage actually scared of metal sonic and screaming>Sage can't just go intangible>Sage can’t just fire a laser herself, from her hands, like she does in FrontiersThey really nerfed Sage to hell just to ensure Belle and her Gay Motobug are relevant in this crappy Steven Universe plot.Part of the bigger problem with Evan’s writing, she should be increasing the stakes and the action, not lowering them for everyone just to force her OCs in. Like people want Tails and Amy to be fighting in giant Extreme Gear races against the Rogues, not to be slowly walking around hallways chit-chatting with Belle and Jewel and the Gay Cock fighting noone.
I wish Belle had a bit more of a silly/goofy element to her, she's just too miserable and negative a character most of the time.That said, I like that they're setting it up so her and Sage might come to like each other.
>>152779139Seems like there's magic or some kind of supernatural force layered on top of the tech. Wouldn't be the first time this has happened in Soinc lore. Hell, even the Deadly Six could do it without magic.
>>152779151>she's just too miserable and negative a character most of the timeThat's every OC not named Tangle. Surge is a huge crybaby loser, Whisper's just plain pathetic, etc. These characters just have absolutely nothing going for them. You don't even get a thin veneer of character growth, which was one of the biggest arguments for even having OC's in a comic like this in the first place. They're just as static as the game cast.
>>152779139Ian should do the ultimate “fuck you” and have it be Lyric for no reason or explanation. Just how Sega likes it, after all.
>>152779145>They really nerfed SageIf she wasn't nerfed, you would complain that Sage can just curbstomp any problem
>>152779186No I wouldn’t.I don’t think anyone has complained this about anyone in this series. The stakes are so fucking low and the obstacles are “she/Xe hurt my feelings by saying a word i don’t like!”
Can't Sage just blip around? That's how you could find her on top of sky scrapers and shit in Frontiers.
Complete nothingburger issue.
>>152779145>Sage can't just teleport out of a caveAnon, her signal to the outside is being blocked.
>>152779218So she doesn’t have GPS anymore. She should still be capable of basic things she could do before
>>152779226All things she could do while connected to the Eggnet. It's like you are complaining that your computer can't run discord without internet.
>>152779224Dumb fanfic. It’s just Starline. Kit doesn’t gove cringy meta Ian-insert speeches like obviously-Starline was doing last issue.Also Kit doesn’t construct random effeminate bathrooms for himself like Starline does here. He lives with Surge and sleeps on a bunkbed with her.
>>152779186I mean they already categorized her as Robotnik's buggest breakthrough that let him analyze and control ancient tech that treated the chaos emeralds like candy.From a writing perspective, you really just shouldn't bring her out unless you got a Super level threat to deal with, unless you want it to be boring and effortless.Still, maybe this mysterious entity in this comic has a good reason to be beyond Sage's grasp. They haven't shown their hand yet.
>>152779242I don’t see how internet gives you lasers and intangibility. She’s still floating around in there, so she should still be able to phase like the hologram she is. This was never stated in the comic, only that she can’t map out the caves without a signal.You’re making up reasons not stated to try and excuse the contrived writing.
>>152779207In Frontiers she was plugged into the islands. She doesn’t have that luxury anymore. The previous issue already shows that she’s just a drone with a VRchat avatar projected out of it.
>>152779242Her becoming immaterial wasn't depicted as her using the network to gain abilities, it was the other way around. Eggman's network is what allowed her to maintain a physical representation.If anything her losing a signal should mean she simply can't be there.
At this point, I only hope that this issue will give us some cute Metal/Sage fanart
>>152779151Yeah you’d think someone given a clown nose would be wacky or silly or fun. Instead all she ever does is whinge about her backstory again and again.I get the distinct impression Evan tries to make her seem “adorkable” as they’d call it or just clumsy/cute/relatable, but she’s not cute she’s just whiney and unlikeable
>>152779193>The stakes are so fucking low and the obstacles are “she/Xe hurt my feelings by saying a word i don’t like!”Good. This means we're inching closer to Tails Gets Trolled becoming canon.
>>152778919>I'm here for Green Sonic!
Now that infinite is confirmed back and starline is most likely his benefactor how do we feel about the coolest sonic villain and the gay duck being back
>>152778958He probably would've been better used just keeping Metal busy. But the Green copy might be foreshadowing something interesting. Also. Sonic got knocked out, I would have though the mandates wouldn't allow such things.
>>152779278Belle’s directionless.Instead of carving out a niche for her (like a love interest, or a local mechanic like Rotor, or just cute SOL like Cream) Evan keeps badly shoving her into the main plot without making her an action character.That’s why you get her zipping around on her gay shitty motobug trying to look important/serious when it’s the lamest thing in the whole sonic series.
>>152779250>I don’t see how internet gives you lasers and intangibilitySkill issue.
>>152779337not knocked out, just hypnotised, and dizzy from Metal falling on him. He gets up immediately cause it woke him up
It's weird that Sage suddenly physically exists (as hard light). It's also strange she can even manifest outside of Eggman's signal range.That's pretty much supposed to be her weakness, she can't really exist where Eggman doesn't already have an established footprint.Before she warms up to Sonic in Frontiers, it's made pretty clear she would kill Sonic if she had the ability, but her limited influence prevented that. Implying she had no real physical agency outside of tech she could interact with.
>>152779415Not that strange, she was resurrected after Frontiers and is now explained as being a projector using hard light. She's basically a drone with a physical hologram stuck to it I suppose.Does mean she could kill Sonic now.
Revealed in previous issue, Sage is a floating ball.
>>152779415Most of that’s headcanon. She couldn’t fully control the Titans, but she could attack on her own too. She fires a laser from her hand at Sonic in the Knuckles cutscene, then Knuckles blocks it.Sega probably didn’t want a little girl bossbattle since she was their biggest japbait
>>152778949Wtf she is just a hologram, did Ian forget what he wrote 4 years ago?
>>152779561Bro, check two posts before you.
IDW Sonic fucking sucks
>>152779250She got that internet gas cut off
>>152779578Ian is a hack who can't remember what he did 4 years ago got it
Just say that the ball creates hard-light hologram
Is the eye plate supposed to be a starro reference?
>>152779250>>152779360I think our IDW writers are a little confused. It's actually true that without an established connection, Sage should lose "lasers and intangibility"... But that's because she shouldn't be able to manifest in the first place. She's not like Infinite in Forces where she has a physical anchor to project from (in his case, the prototype Ruby).
>>152779542Why doesn't she just rescind her hard light projection so Metal loses grip?
>>152779671Dramatic tension that can extend the runtime of the story arc.
>>152778894I really hope this results in her going back to her original color scheme, even if it doesn't make much sense.
>>152779509My assumption was that the projector was connected to Eggman's network, allowing Sage to become hard light through it. This implies Sage is a program totally independent from his network now, which is specifically stored in that drone's memory. Which is very different from how she worked before.Hope Eggman has backups cause it seems like a gamble to essentially use your personal assistant as a scout if they are actually in danger.
>>152778949>Bad touch, Onii-chan!
>>152779650Then wtf is this >>152779542
Sage is such an unbelievably mid and boring character, my goodness.
>>152778871>>152778873>villain cannibalising Eggman tech>has a comfy bedroom and vanity setup (not a robot)>furniture is Sonic-sized (probably a furry)>uses supernatural artifacts (???)If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a platypus
>>152779671>the hard light projection functions as a shield for the vulnerable mobile drone. The drone isn’t designed for the projection to be turned off during use, so Sage would essentially be going into sleep mode to try to escape. Extremely risky when dealing with a force that can fuck with egg tech. source: I made it up
>>152779843IDW making shit up. This clearly didn't exist in Frontiers, she could fuckin teleport.
>>152779897She's the only reason I'm picking the comic back up lmao
>>152780122not on the starfall islands anymore
>>152779897Having to play off Belle isn't doing her character any favors. Hopefully next issue Sage interacting with Metal will lead to something interesting without the wooden baggage
>>152780151I know Metal is popular but come on, he's literally a silent sounding board for other characters to talk at.
That's a pretty explicit Starro cameo, considering it's actually important to the story.
>>152780158Then I will have to place all my hope on the next issue having interesting local of Metal's destination and whatever Metal Starro does. Help, I'm running low on copium, I was actually looking forward to Sage's comic debut arc.
>>152778949>It's canon that it's possible to rape sageyus
>>152778873The bubbles covering the monitors they're talking about just to make an insipid, snarky comment about them is pretty bad.
>>152778958>>152779337Yeah, they put him in gay baby jail so Sage and Belle could do stuff, but they're also using it as epic foreshadowing for duckman while also giving the fans SPOOPY MAGIC to post on social media.I don't hate it on principle, but they spent way too much page space on setup and very little having fun with it. Ends up feeling like page filler (because it is).
>>152779145>Part of the bigger problem with Evan’s writing, she should be increasing the stakes and the action, not lowering them for everyone just to force her OCs in.Upping the powerlevels would make things worse, stupid.
>>152780257Main take-away for most Sage fans.
>>152779183I like Surge and Lanolin being miserable bitches because that's the point and it makes for fun dynamics, but I'm real fucking tired of Whisper being mopey, yeah. Belle is kinda justified being moody here, but there should be some contrast in this story to make it clearer that it's Sage making her feel so catty.
Reminder that IDW is ghostwritten according to Evan: https://spiritsonic.tumblr.com/post/809475850057744384/hi-evan-i-noticed-you-and-ian-were-both-credited
>>152779897Yeah, but she's more interesting here than in Frontiers. People already made their mind up about Belle, but I like this story so far.
>>152780489How do you ghost write when all writers involved are credited, retard?
>>152780415NTA, but powerlevels are synonymous with stakes.As far as we know, Sage and Metal are not just theoretically replaceable, they HAVE each been replaced at some point. Eggman can and has made more. So his stakes in this, despite being the catalyst for the story, are low.Sonic is essentially here because he has nothing better to do and Belle is effectively a leftover from a plot thread that already concluded.So as readers our only real stakes are: Will Belle and Sage become friends? and will this villain they are teasing so hard actually deliver? Both of which could easily have answers that don't really rock the boat.For the record I don't really hate this story so far. But it IS very low stakes. Especially if you don't care about Sage or Belle, two divisive characters among this fanbase.
>>152780544>but powerlevels are NOT synonymous with stakes.FUCK
>>152778887>Sage already acknowledges Belle as Eggman's propertyDamn, I was hoping for more bratty friction between the two but that's already one big hurdle stopping them from getting along, skipped over.
>>152780544I get where you're coming from. That anon is clearly pining for more extreme action, but you're right that the stakes here are very personal. I think the fact that they're his friends gives it some inherent weight and, being real, the first issue set them up as arc protagonists and did a ton of groundwork to make you care.If you came in with 0 previous context, #84 explains>Who Belle is>What Belle cares about>Her history and relationship with her "father">Who Sage is>What Sage cares about>Her relationship with her "father">A shared goal and why they're seeking it out.>Sage's hyper logical mentality and Belle's hyper emotional mentality.>How both characters relate to Sonic as a sort of mediator.>Why the characters are stuck in a cave for this arc.>Hints for the overarching narrative.while also working as a good 20 pager. I fucking loathed Sage as a character and think Frontiers has god awful writing, but even I have to admit #84 was strong. I'm a bit put off by the shit Sonic's up to this issue, but otherwise this story is good so far. I really think that people are hung up by their prior biases.
I know it's probably brain-in-a-jar Starline but I'm kinda hoping it's a previous Eggman creation gone rogue, since this set up is essentially bringing all his "family" to one place.
>>152779244>It’s just Starline.I doubt Kit is that mentally compromised he would go back to Starline if it really was him. Granted this is IDW so they can write up any bullshit so who knows.>He lives with Surge and sleeps on a bunkbed with her.It's pretty clear that this cave is Jagger's base of operation not Kit's. Given it was shown there are two conspirators in this story and since Surge anti-hero arc, they have shown periods in which Surge and Kit separate from each other for brief periods of time now. I bet they'll explain it was enough time for Kit to steal the emeralds and give them to Jagger before returning to Surge if this leak is to be believed.
>>152779224Doesn't add up considering Surge and Kit were on the monitors last time we saw our mystery villain, and they don't seem any worse for wear than usual.
>>152778938Thank goodness Ian refrained from the obvious "STRANGE, ISN'T IT?!" meme.
>>152778873>>152780277Agreed. I like the comic, but that was just bad. They had so much space to put the text!
>>152780544Haha what if they kissed
>>152781166Yeah, these comics run into lettering problems pretty often. Last issue had a couple bubbles pointing to the wrong speaker. I'd assume the letterer fucked up, but there was also a sequence in #84 where Eggman's panels are in the wrong order. Editorial got purged at IDW a few years back, so big mistakes fly by.
>>152779224>Having to use four existing OCs and introduce two new OCs just to kick off a storyline.It's so shitty I believe it.
>>152778873>>152778880>>152778885>Four quips in a row.Ian. Please.Self-control. Stop trying so hard.
>>152781464>complaining about sonic quipping Fake fan.
>>152781484Why would I keep the last one if I was anti-quip, stupid?
>>152778933Scourge survived the Super Genesis Wave.
>>152778946Sonic totally almost died here. His heart stopped for a minute.
>>152779183Tangle has been brought down to Whisper's level since being permanently attached to her to appease Bluesky.
>>152778946Now kiss
>>152781733>appease BlueskyThey were created before bluesky was a thing
Belle becomes more appealing to me just by being in Sage's proximity.
>>152778938>Belle spread eagleI already came once today...
>>152781899didn't stop them, just like any the activist weirdos who claim fictional characters as their "allies"
>>152781652Someone's asshurt.
>>152778891No, Eggman forgot it.
>>152778899>Sage is tangible nowAwesome upgrade Eggman
I liked more Sonic Channel's Sage design but her IDW look is growing on meNow I can't decide which one to use for fanart
>Sage has low bars Would be funny if they used this as an excuse to maintain status quo, Belle and Sage bond, but then these memories don't upload to Eggman's "cloud" so they don't update properly onto the Sage in Eggman's network.
>>152778921>they took away all of Sage’s abilities and made her have a panic attack when Sonic’s not there to save her, just so they could shill BelleAnyone got some spare Copium? Mine ran out.
>>152778921Extended contact with Belle is turning Sage into Whisper
>>152779145>>152779354Are you the same anon who storytimed the last chapter?
>>152781464B^U
>>152782921>>152782974You can't TORtanic Sage like that, anon.
>>152779140No, people just assumed it was because of the timing.
>>152780489we've done this thread multiple times and multiple times it's been clear that's not what the post is saying. I don't know if you're just actively retarded or pretending to be, either way go back to /sthg/.
>>152783551It's either slashy, krack or lavii. You can't reason with them. Theyre lost to shitposting
For anyone trying to get into the comic:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qtB2D7tC4w
>>152778921Why did Eggman even send her out in this condition if she's now vulnerable to being attacked and doesn't have most of her practical abilities? It's not like he didn't know she would be outside of his network, the whole reason he started this mission was because he had a blind spot here.He essentially sent out a regular child with a phone that has low bars. The only reason Sonic is here is because Belle set that up.
>>152783975the reason is to make her useless and make her have a panic attack so Belle can seem relevant.
>>152783975He wanted someone that Sonic trusts. But considering that Sonic is already absurdly trusting to all of Eggman’s creations in this comic it could have been anyone.
>>152780434>I like Surge and Lanolin being miserable bitches because that's the point and it makes for fun dynamicsSee, I agree in theory, but in practice these characters don't really have good dynamics with the cast. They fit the antagonist quota and not an inch more, they aren't even much fun AS antagonists.It would be different if they were larger than life and bombastic like the rest of the cast. But no, they're "realistic" in a way that makes them a slog to read about, dragging the whole comic down with them. Lanolin especially is a blatant example of this, people bitched about her for a reason.
>>152780489Give it a fucking rest already. I don't even Evan or Ian and this is getting obnoxious.
>>152784111Surge would work if she was operating like Shadow, but without a GUN dossier and Rogue's reconnaissance to have a full grasp of cause-and-effect. Or, if that's too complicated, Tangle but with significantly more collateral damage to the point where every good deed is outweighed by two bad deeds (both of which she ignores and Kit negatively reinforces by praising the one good deed).Lanolin would work if she was a part of GUN, creating the difficult situation where the Restoration wants GUN's help but without GUN's influence since one base on the Islands can be viewed the same as one Eggman base. Human bases on Mobius are a direct threat to the autonomy and freedom of Mobians. Lanolin can't see the forest through the trees and wants to use GUN to remove Eggman, without realizing a similar, yet different, problem emerges with her trying to help GUN establish a foothold and push out the "ineffective, inefficient Restoration".Neither of these options are possible.
>>152783946>look at the comments>”I can never hate IDW because it gave my goat Silver purpose again when the games failed him miserably”I can’t believe people actually believe this.
>>152784297It's no use trying to argue with Silverfags.
>>152784297what purpose did he have in the games?
>>152780277>>152781166>>152781464IDW really does not know when to shut Sonic up. I'm fine with him being snarky and quippy, even to the point of breaking the fourth wall, but they need to balance that with just allowing some scenes to breath. It feels like they're so insecure about Sonic as a character that they need to fill up any panel he's in with a sea of word balloons.Sometimes just having him say nothing is the best option. Have him actually engage with the world around him for a change. Not doing that is how you end up with the infamous "Big Oof".
>>152784337The Sonic CD opening would be better if he made WAY PAST COOL quips the entire time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lft02DuvqnQ
>>152779028https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCcFu2QGOdw
>>152781484The wind quips only at appropriate intervals.
>>152781484Anon, do you think Sonic is a robot only capable of communicating through canned phrases? He's a character, not a Tickle-me-Elmo. There's a time and place for quips, those panels are not it.>>152784567This, but unironically.
>>152784111>Lanolin especially is a blatant example of this, people bitched about her for a reason.Yeah, because she made Silver look bad and the second part of her story was kinda stupid. And because she has a vagina.
>>152784111I've liked Surge every time she showed up so far sans that one Blaze issue last year. I liked Lanolin until they pissed out and made her apologize last year. No idea what the fuck you're on about.
>>152784917Having a vagina is the only reason she’s still an unqualified DEI hire, larping as their “Leader”, and noone’s told her to fuck off yet or fired her or treats her like the asshole she is.So you’re not wrong.
>>152785038You would be calling the exact same character based and be just as mad as I am about her apology if she had a penis, anon.
>>152778885uh oh sonic if you hear ughhh noises and then a scream causes you to freeze.You're fucked they're gonna jump on ya and rape you of all energy. Hope you know how to cause massive sun/light attacks.
>>152779145>Sage can't just teleport out of a caveNatural jamming anon, wireless shit doesnt work underground, nor deep underwater. Unless you can connect with something.This isnt an asspull its common sense and also makes it so shes not a super marry sue. The cave system is clearly also not fully natural, she cant connect to its system to figure shit out. >Fire a power lazorz in a fucking deep cave>What could possibly go wrong >whoopsy just hit a pocket of natural gas that was hidden away I just set off a small nuke and caused a massive cave in.
>Sage can canonically give kisses now
>>152784917>Yeah, because she made Silver look badCan someone tell me why he has such fan dedication they get retarded like with Lanolin not believing him they make her on the same level as Eggman unleashing the metal virus on the world?
>>152779542Should have been something else just to complete the shaped henchmen line.
>>152785457>You can give Sage headpats now
>>152785688She assaulted and gaslit Whisper, the resident wooby and apparent center of the universe according to Sega. Not to mention most readers are just confused as why this literal who is giving orders like she's the leader.
>>152780544>So as readers our only real stakes are: Will Belle and Sage become friends?Fuck off with this.
>>152778880>edit
>>152778949>still stretching out who the villain is
>>152784917>And because she has a vagina.Good thing she was created by ABT, otherwise even this statement would be questionable.
>>152785688Same reason Shadow does: alternate version of main character attracts self inserters and shippers.
>>152785867>according to Sega.According to his fans, Sega barely gives a shit about him, thank God. Sadly the IDW team Stills tries to prop him up but it looks like they've been mandated by Sega to make a naive moron despite there and his fanbase's attempts to make him cool >Not to mention most readers are just confused as why this literal who is giving orders like she's the leader.IDW tried to give her a decent story into becoming a leader but as usual they they're just awful about it so in turn that affects her characterization as well.>>152786140>Same reason Shadow does: alternate version of main character attracts self inserters and shippersThing is with Shadow even if he was overly edgy, his story in adventure 2 was good and his characterization was believable. With Silver even if he had the best campaign of the Sonic 06 game, his story was still crap and his characterization was just as lame as the other two hedgehogs. And again it's clear Sega has mandated him to have a naive mindset so much that even his fans change his personality into something different in fans works because of how lame he is in the comics. So again what gives with this character?
>>152786140Nigga every male hero in this series does.
Is "The Next Show" supposed to be a reference?
>>152786712Shut the fuck up Boco.
>>152786432>With Silver even if he had the best campaign of the Sonic 06 game, his story was still crap and his characterization was just as lame as the other two hedgehogs.I believe a lot of Silver's nuance comes from the localization, he really feels like two different depending if he speaks Japanese (with proper subs) or English.Despite complains Sonicfags may have about English vs Japanese in current Sonic, back in SA1 and SA2, Sonic (and Shadow) still felt like the same character no matter what they spoke.
>>152786432I was talking about Whisper being the most important person in the universe considering the giant astroturf campaign they are doing for her right now.
>>152786712It’s a Sonic X reference.Cream spends every single episode sitting at home doing nothing just watching tv. In Episode 8 she calls the thing she watches ‘The Next Show’ and it’s some retarded purple furry just dancing for 3 frames. Then Eggman cuts off the signal and she cries so Sonic has to stop him.They namecalled it once or twice on Sonic Channel and Sonicfags soifaced out like that’s the ”peak”est piece of fanservice ever.
>>152786941No wonder I didn't get it.
Thanks for storytiming OPhonestly I thought there first encounter would be like this desu
>>152786941>Cream spends every single episode sitting at home doing nothing just watching tvSonic's only a bit better than that. Most episodes he's just lazing about like a bum until the last five minutes when it's time to smash up Eggman's latest plan.
>>152786858>I believe a lot of Silver's nuance comes from the localizationApparently Japanese Silver was more a hot headed, brash fool which matches up to how he acts in trying to kill Sonic and find the Iblis trigger in story. The English version is what the fans seem to swoon over the most, even both in Archie and IDW They were following his English characterization more there anything else.>>152786892>I was talking about Whisper being the most important person in the universe considering the giant astroturf campaign they are doing for her right now.Welp, there goes my reading comprehension but I do agree that Whisper is comic plant/ hype girl now which is annoying. She's basically ruined Tangle into being nothing but her girlfriend only character, She can't really be a sniper character in this E for Everyone comic, and without her weapon she's shown to be pretty useless in a fight as well.
>>152784917A real shame about her, making Silver look bad is based as fuck and we need more of it.
>>152785964You really don't think that's what they are doing, anon? It's essentially already underway.
I cant tell if the art has improved over time that Belle has grown into her weird goofusy clown look and gotten cuter or what, but I definitely remember hating her when she first dropped and now I find her more interesting. I dont think IDW will ever go this far but i can see an almost theological angle in having a definite creator who not only no longer exists per se, but actively disregards your entire existence and considers you disposable and has replaced you with something "better". She deserves an apology for existing. Also, they sure led in strong in the previews with that weird illusory dark link-Sonic just for the preview to be his entire appearance in the comic and get deleted basically off screen right after, lol
I think this was a pretty cool and cute issue but I need to see how this arc ENDS before I can judge it properly.
>>152786941Damn, I gotta sit down and watch Sonic X proper sometime.
>>152786941>Cream spends every single episode sitting at home doing nothing just watching tvFuck, Cream is /co/ before the internet was a mass thing
https://live.tiermaker.com/20058147I'd like to get some opinions on this.
>>152782842Just draw both and have them bully each other.
>>152787295Sonic’s the only one who ever beats Eggman in that show, in every ep. He lies around in trees or runs around in fields to look aloof, and then starts a random “movement” where everyone else mimics him and does that.The others are just useless hangabouts at Chris’ house, and get so stupid they forget the moon goes up and down to make Sonic look smart.
>>152788891*Meanwhile Cream doesn’t even FLY until S2 Episode 20. Including in episodes where she very well could have like when Sonic was rescuing her.She spent almost 2 entire seasons not even flying once, just sitting on the couch watching tv, because they wanted Sonic to do everything.
All caught up on the Chaotix Casefiles. Tangle and Whisper has voices that fit so well, but at the same time Tangle is presented as so annoying that I hope IDW fans are prepared for a possibility of the character being absolutely reviled by game fans if they ever bring her into a major game, fully voiced and written. The millennial quirk Chungus character archetype has already been receiving severe backlash in recent games, adding in a character who is the exact embodiment of that style of writing will not go over well, or just be very divisive.The “b-b-but she’s lesbian!” excuse can only go so far
>>152789385why should the fans be prepared for that? they didn't make anything?we need an annoying character every now and then though, I'm not offended by her..
>>152789666>we need an annoying character every now and thenWe already have Silver.
>>152787281Yeah I thought Sage would be calling Belle a defect or something but she seems to acknowledge she's Eggman's creation just like herself.
>>152789385i dont know why you think tangle is going to be such a surprise to "the game fans", the archie era is over, they arent separate entities anymore. tangle is about the same level as baldy mcnosehair era sonic or like anybody from Forces, so people should be used to it. at least this time its a side character I want Tangle to show up, she has to do SOMETHING, someone has to get into her that isnt ian or evan so she can exist for a purpose other than lesbian fetishism. she has a chance if she's released from IDW hell
>>152789692she openly talks shit about her a few times in this issue at least, she just doesnt lay it on that hard because she's not meant to be a complete thundercunt like Eggman is. that said hell even Eggman is pretty lenient towards Belle
>>152789809At the end of the day, Belle is still his creation
>>152789809That's more Sage's typical ego I was expecting more along the lines of.>You're a mistake and you only exist because my dad had temporary brain damage.
>>152789827Sage has never really been like that. Even in Frontiers, with Sonic, who she should like the absolute least, she was relatively chill with him. They want people to like her
>>152789791>someone has to get into her that isnt ianBro, don't check who writes the games these days.
>>152789908no shit, im talking about exposure
>>152789827Sage is more of a matter-of-fact girl, not a mesugaki.. She doesn't misbehave but she can be very blunt.
>>152789939Bitch move your foot, I want to see behind it.
>>152789897I mean early on she tried to get Giganto to kill him...Not that's she's like that anymore.
>>152789827Belle's too precious to Evan for someone to tell her self-insert she isn't cool.
>>152790012i really dont think you know what that word means
>>152778866>>152778887In this story Belle has a surprising amount of self-assurance, even being willing to push back against Sage. I usually think of her as a character who has a hard time even sticking up for herself or dealing with conflict.
>>152790064you say surprising when whining and crying to everyone about her backstory isn't all she ever fucking does. She only met Starline for like an hour and already started bitching and crying at him about "Muh TEEEENKKKEEEERRRR WAAAAAAHHHH!!!"
>>152786655Espio and Vector and Charmy and Mighty and Ray and Omega and Big and even Jet do not have the rabid self-inserter problem. Fuck, even Knuckles doesn't, Knuckles fans are just asshurt that Shadow cucked him.
>>152790110I would also scream at the creepy simp who kidnapped me and brainwashed my dad to be Hitler.
>>152790131Wrong. you need to take someone to dinner and a movie first before you can hate them for basically killing your father
>>152789791>they arent separate entities anymore.The vast majority of people who play these games don't know the comics exist. Fuck, the former friends of the guy you posted played Frontiers, all excited about the great story they'd heard about, only to feel put out by all the references to shit they didn't know.
>>152790131She also cries and whines at Tangle, and Amy, and Metal who can't even speak, literally anyone passive enough to sit and listen to her bitch about it for the Thousandth time.She isn't shy and demure she's constantly in "oh woe is me isn't my backstory so original and tragic and cool do you wanna hear me soapbox about it again???" mode
>every character i dislike is a self insert youd think after all the years ive spent in this fandom id be used to the autism by now
>>152790156Don't pivot just because you were caught being wrong, faggot.
>>152790166If you're talking about how people treat Belle and Starline, yeah, it's stupid.If you meant this one>>152790127I'm talking about how fans only really get pissy about anything negative happening to their babu for the hedgehogs & Tails.
>>152790166I think it started when tumblr died and they all came here. There was a huge influx of bubbline shippers calling anyone who dislikes their forced shit as "self inserters of finn"So now we have everyone claiming everyone self inserts every character and shit. It's weird because not everyone self inserts, but they assume they do
>>152790167I'm not wrong, piggy, i'm right.She cries and whines at literally EVERYONE. Including villains she's barely met. She doesn't have a hard time sticking up for herself, or if she does then she's terribly written, because her only personality is Evan using her to cry and cry and cry some more with no fucking shame about her OC's shitty backstory and how everyone should all feel bad for her and clap because here come the waterworks. Which obviously worked on you.
>>152790178Tails gets everything negative happening to him. There's not a single character who is as worse-off as "Sonic Help Me!" and all the efforts done to paint Tails as weak and cowardly.
>>152790195i was about to engage with you in earnest, but the way you speak informs me that you are underage and i make a point not to argue with children
>>152790202The way you speak informs me you have no point, and definitely spend inordinate amounts of twitter, which is why you're currently butthurt that other people don't applaud your lazy badly-written Tranny Homo character.
>>152790202Just admit you can't defend Belle with facts, lil bro. No need to act like a catty woman
>>152790195God this page is everything wrong with Sonic IDW
>>152790222KEK, trips of truth>>152790166>orange hair and ugly freckles>Daddy Issues and self-proclaimed manipulative fathers>all she ever does is cry about her tragic OC backstory to the other charactersI'm not saying she is one, but she has the makings of one. At best she's a Pet-character OC.
>>152790222Why censor the word faggot? Anon was right, the refugee problem is ass cancer for this place. Go back to wherever you came from.
>>152790232Belle and Evan are exactly the types to censor the word faggot because it triggers them.
>>152790242You are genuinely retarded.
>>152790246You are genuinely a faggot.
>>152790222>emoji censorship of "faggot"lol wannabe social media influencers have ruined the party
Sex with Belle?
>>152790255yes but how? she is wood
>>152790255Belle is for cuddling and protectingon the other hand embedded fleshlight in her torso
>>152787379>They were following his English characterization more there anything else.Other than his added insecurity and dependency on Blaze he's not written differently in the dub of 06. It's his English voices that change the impression of his character from hot-headed and aggressive to soft and nerdy because they're trying to sound young and not conveying anything else about him.
>>152790255You'll get splinters
>>152790255Maybe?I can't tell if my love for her is a want to protect her, or fuck her ruthlessly
Okay do you think the doctor would be intrigued by someone dating/banging his wayward robo-daughter, or just single them out for torment? He might have abandoned Belle but he still seems somewhat sentimental. Would he go out of his way to kill his son-in-law for literally fucking with his inventions?
>>152779145I'm pretty sure the reason she was able to teleport around all the time in Frontiers is due to her existing on the Ancient's digital network that was projected across the Starfall Islands. Now that she's off the islands she needs something to connect to hence her core and said core projecting a hardlight projection of her.
>>152778861Oh thank God, I had forgotten who Sonic is
>>152790409He'd probably be stoked that someone recognizes his ability to make such bangable robots
I wonder if Sage's original colors will return in the comic, perhaps in a flashback.
at this point in the story if you do anything with her you have to contend with the knowledge that he's possibly watching you do it or at the very least has his DVR set to record you fucking his pinocchiobot
Belle is a robot AND a ginger. She double has no soul.
>>152789825Yeah, he puts her down so much because she's disloyal, but she's still 'his'. If he can still put up with his sassy dumb minions after all this time, then it's not surprising that he gives some breathing room to the bot that just dislikes him. There's many worse offenders in his shit list, anyway.
>>152790201>Gets to be the brains, the #2 guy, the guy who bails the hero out, the creator of the cast's cool gizmos, and gets way more attention than most of the cast.>"Ok but this small child is kind of a whiny bitch tho why can't he be cool like Sonic?"
>>152790195No, I meant the criticism of her snapping at Starline. You're pivoting to other characters to avoid acknowledging that one makes plenty of sense. If you can't accept even the smallest of Ls, why would I bother discussing anything else with you?
>>152790359>... added insecurity and dependency on Blaze... to soft and nerdy because they're trying to sound young....Fucking hell, that's the formula to get the females to swoon over a male in so many young romance novels. It's the polar opposite of the bad boy archetype which is filled by Shadow in this series. I now understanding why so many females swoon over this dunce of a character which in turn draws the attention to the young beta males of the series so they boost his popularity and try to emulate them to get the girls themselves. It really is the shipping that keeps this franchise afloat!
>>152790246as if they aren't
>>152783946Best video on the series I’ve seen.
>>152790842>Gets to be the brainsSonic's the brains now. Even Frontiers says this, Tails just says technobabble that helps noone>the #2 guyThat's Shadow/Knuckles/Avatar/ClassicSonikku, Tails is just a cheerleader>the creator of the cast's cool gizmoslmao yeah their cool gizmos like uuh...uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhh...the miles electric.>and gets way more attention than most of the castattention meaning he gets to cower, cheerlead and look pathetic so Sonic can save him, and tell Sonic how great and perfect he is.Most of the cast actually gets to fight, Tails is literally the only one in Forces who cowered and couldn't fight.Using "but he's a heckin child so he can't be allowed to fight or be cool like the others" is exactly the kind of twitterfaggot retardation that is behind Tails' downfall. Tails never had that hold him back before. Ever since the Meta Era he's been reduced and turned into a mockery to make Sonic look good.
>>152790842"attention" isn't good if you're only ever onscreen to be dunked on so Sonic can look good.
Uh oh, Tailscel melty alert
>>152791063>Tails is constantly getting dunked onNo?Last time we saw him was #77 where he was the chad master planner telling the girls how to fix a sinking city while he rescued civvies.Before that, he and Amy were the competent members of the B team in the Phantom Rider story arc. He was only unable to completely save the ship because of the actions of others and helped with the rescue effort. Before that, he saved Sonic's hide and solved the problem in the salamander one off. And even back in Metal Virus he's the only one who got close to a solution and did a badass mech run on the zombies.You are exactly the kind of whiney fuck I'm talking about. Anything less than flawlessness from Tails is perceived as an attack on the character.
>>152791210He also planted a tracker on Lunar outplaying every character in the comic, Sonic included. But you're arguing with Tailscel, he's just going to wordvomit some schizo rant where he projects heavily and posts a picture of Sonic eating shit.
>>152791267I thought he wasn't in that arc,shows me for not double checking.
>>152791267Tails fans want Tails to be Zoro One Piece when he's really Nami.
>>152791210You've got some serious case of selective memory going on.Like you're calling this "the chad master planner" when he's literally just saying exposition on the Ipad, that Blaze and Kit shoudl save the day while he sits behind.He didn't rescue any civies either, only Amy did.>Before that, he and Amy were the competent members of the B team in the Phantom Rider story arcThis again. Tails and Amy didn't do anything in the Phantom Rider arc. Rather, they cowered from a bunch of random normal guards and hid scared, and just walked along a hallway, finding Belle, and saying exposition. In the end they didn't even do anything, Belle and that Gay Rooster OC found the Chaotix and the Chaotix solved the mystery, Tails and Amy didn't do anything.The rest of your stories are similar. You can't even say what "the problem" was in the salamander one off, because there was no problem, the twist was the Salamander was friendly and there's no conflict at all.This seriously leads me to think you're extrapolating hard to make these seem badass contributions when they weren't. You're just whining about Tails' fans reasonably asking for him to be cool and to fight again, instead of being portrayed as weak like in Forces because of his age.
>>152791559>Like you're calling this "the chad master planner" when he's literally just saying exposition on the Ipad, that Blaze and Kit shoudl save the day while he sits behind.I mean yeah, you could disingenuously characterize him using the tool he built to come up with a plan and then telling characters what that plan is as "saying exposition" and give credit to his tool instead of him. It makes no fucking sense, but you're doing it. Like, you're not even refuting anything. He came up with the plan and told the girls and beta simp what to do. That's just objective fact.>He didn't rescue any civies either, only Amy did.There are four panels. One of Tails searching, one of Surge searching with Amy having managed to grab one civvie, a shot of the civvies on life rafts, and a shot of all three re entering the scene together.You have to be absolutely ridiculous to suggest this is not meant to convey "these are the people these three rescued together." Braindead semantics bullshit. Come the actual fuck on.
>>152791656he's literally saying exposition, to say this place is built on a volcano, and so Blaze can do XYZ. The IPad is just there to visually show it.The civies all got on life rafts before they even came up with a plan, you see them do it. They were just checking if there were any stragglers left behind, of which only Amy got to rescue anyone.>You have to be absolutely ridiculous to suggest this is not meant to convey "these are the people these three rescued together." Braindead semantics bullshit. Come the actual fuck on.You wouldn't, since you literally see that. And get this whole page for that.Calm down, it's a cartoon Fox it's not that serious.
>>152781464>>152781484>>152784337He wants Sonic to be Deadpool for kids so bad, its annoying. That's why this writer sucks.
>>152790409He made Breezie to be fair.
>>152791702>Bro my complaints are super reasonable, I'm not being stupid>By the way, Tails is being DUNKED ON and DISGRACED because I only saw Amy grab a civvie in this sequence, and his plan don't matter because I say so.Shut the fuck up, dude.
>>152791702Tails always sends Sonicfags into hysterics. Probably because they want him to look lame and weak to make Sonic look good, and say that's normal because "he's le small child, he shouldn't fight he should just be the ipad baby..."
>>152791746Tails is dunked on because of games like Forces and Frontiers and Colors making it out like he's a weak damsel cheerleader for Sonic and can't fight.Tails sitting around saying exposition on his IPad isn't the cause of that, but it's not the cure either.Literally, calm down. You're in hysterics because of a basic complaint that Tails should be a cool fighter again and not the cowering IPad baby.
>>152790842>>152791339>>152791105Forces has done irreparable damage to the brains of Sonic self-inserters.
>>152791749>"Sonicfags are in hysterics" says guy kvetching about the characters with crazy elemental powers being the ones stopping a volcano instead of "dude who flies and is smart."idgaf about Sonic winning or losing fights or his power level or whatever. I just think you're retarded.You're like the morons who bitch about Surge getting slapsticked around during her arc, like a character isn't valuable unless they're providing PEAK PERFORMANCE for Death Battle.
>>152790127>Fuck, even Knuckles doesn'tYou must've not heard of Ken Penders and Ian Flynn
>>152791809I'm not even that guy you're kvetching at.You're throwing a hissy fit because Tails fans want Tails to be cool. Get over yourself Sonic cuck.
>>152791817Bro that was twenty fuckin' years ago.All the Knuckles fans left today just accept that he's a goober and laugh it off. I haven't seen a legit Knuckles powerscaler/self inserter since the early 10s.
>>152791835You mustn't have been in the fandom space much recently. The movies gave Knuckles a big popularity push once again. And the Black voiceactor attracting similarly vantablack nignogs to project on him.
>>152791831>That's stupid and here's why, fucking dumbass.>"Youre throwing a fit, you're hysterical, btw I'm totally composed and that's why I'm making random accusations."Uh huh.You gotta let go, dude.
>>152791856Not even that guy, again. You're hysterically screaming at the walls in seethe, over nothing.
>>152791855>The movies gave Knuckles a big popularity push once again.I saw a little bit years back, but then it died when Keanu Reeves happened. It sure as hell doesn't happen here. Is this a dumb Twitter thing?
>>152791875The entire Sonic fandom now lives on twitter, so you could say that.
>>152791868>Not even that guy, again.Damn, two completely new guys saying the exact same thing in a row. What a world.I'm not mad, I'm just saying you're fucking stupid. And apparently you think I am, too.
>>152791868Bonus: *As Sonic Cucks always do. Say it's bad that Tails is made to look weak and they throw a meltie because only Sonic should be cool. Since they're self-inserter>>152791893I do think you're stupid.
>>152791879I dunno.Either way, I didn't expect to get proven right so thoroughly and immediately. Jesus. People who latch on to Sanic need help.
>>152791900Happens every thread. These nu-Soniccucks are the reason this series and fandom sucks so much
>>152791900Watching Sonic get his ass kicked for two years straight would kick ass. The other characters would get to do more and the meltdown would be hilarious.
>>152791926Kek. Bonus if he cowers and cries to an Egg Pawn and says "Tails Save Me! I'm so weak and pathetic and I can't fight and I'm not cool like YOUUUU!"Sonicfags break down at Sonic just quipping or referencing too much for their liking.
>>152791955>Sonic fans are the ones who get annoyed by him.What schizo nonsense is this?
Does anyone even like Sonic? When people talk about their favorite characters, no one ever says him.
>>152791955Does Tails give him a crappy speech about inspiration and "the wind"? And throw in that it's natural Sonic cries for help because he's so low iq, unlike Tails.
>>152791975You weren't around for the Blue Arm wars. Sonicfags are obsessed with the minutiae of Sonic's "character" because they get so much constant wank they have nothing real to be upset by.>>152791994He's the most popular character in the series. His fans are not coincidentally the most obnoxious
>>152792010I feel pretty confident you're talking about stuff like>>152781464given the way you said it. Maybe I'm wrong.
>>152792010>He's the most popular character in the series-Doubt-
>>152792010>His fans are not coincidentally the most obnoxiousPardon? That is false.
>>152792052Yeah stuff like that.I don't mind people disliking that, but the fact it makes up 90+% of Sonic discourse is baffling.
>>152792010I barely engage with the fandom and even I know Shadow, Tails and Amy fans are the loudest and most obnoxious.
>>152792069No it's most absolutely true. I struggle to find a single Sonic thread in /co/ where they don't shit it up because>Someone said Tails should be cool>Someone said they ship Blaze with Silver instead of Sonic>Someone said Archie or the Movies are bad
I have never heard anyone say Sonic is their favorite character. He's a means to an end. Its like saying Mario is the best Mario character.
>>152792074Yeah. I made that post.I don't have strong feelings about the character. I was pointing out that the sequence was annoying and took attention away from the point of the panels. You can make him orange and and Aardvark and change his name to Martin, Sonic himself is whatever. Immediately jumping to criticism being fandom obsession is weird, man.
>>152792104your criticism (which I agree with) isn't the fandom obsession. But the fandom is obsessed with your criticism.
>>152792088>Someone said Tails should be coolThat's wild, because this thread's the opposite: someone pointed out Tails is like the other major male characters and gets weird parasocial feedback if he ever gets inconvenienced, which led to a long, stupid argument about how he's actually constantly dunked on and shamed and it's awful, etc.
>>152792130Pretty sure they said "Ok but this small child is kind of a whiny bitch tho why can't he be cool like Sonic?" and threw a meltie when a Tailsfag reasonably said that Tails has had bad treatment in the games. Which he has.It's just random seething AT Tails, for asking Sonic to stop being wanked at his expense. The stupid argument being them insisting that shit like this is good because he should be like this.
>>152792150Sonicfags try to shill Meta Era now and sperg at Tails every thread when they're the last bastion saying this is bad.
>>152792111I was gonna argue, but you know what? I see where you're coming from. I think this is a communication issue based on how different our levels of plugged into fandom are.I dunno.
>>152792130>Sonicfags sperging at Tails again (like in every thread) makes Tailsfags bad
>>152792078>>152792088Literally sonic glazing on death battle and fucking power scaling fan communityz plus the shipping tards. Only attention Tails and Shadow gets is hate from the anti sonic casuals.
The IDW era fans are happy. They're getting comics, games, audio dramas and movies.
>>152792150Instead of reviving a circular argument or putting forth stupid strawmen, how about this:I would rather the full cast get humbled more often than have Tails stop being a bitch sometimes. Tails and Vector are the only ones allowed to fuck up anymore. Yeah, sure, the games use him poorly and they've gone a bit too far sometimes, but damn, I'll take that over Amy's lobotomy any day. Knuckles exists entirely in theory as a person. Blaze is basically God: she can do no wrong and will win any fight. Giving Tails a win quota and scrubbing away his inadequacy would make him fucking nothing. I don't want that for him, that sucks!
>>152792277if Amy had a lobotomy then Tails had a brain removal. I'll take him being too boring over him being a pussy coward who is only around to cower, call himself weak, and tell Sonic how great he is, thanks.
>herp derp the tailsfags the sonicfags the tailsfags the sonicfags no u no u no u no uSurge will be my wife. I can fix her
>>152791994Sonic is one of the worst "characters" in this franchise. Honestly, calling him a character is a bit of a stretch.Hell, most of the fanbase can't even find a consensus on how he should act
Hot take: Sonic Forces and Sega's treatment of Tails have been bad, extremely bad, done to make Sonic look good.Asking for better is not "anything less than flawlessness", it's a perfectly reasonable grievance and what you should do. Tails should be cool again. Tails should be awesome and fun and badass.Getting irrationally upset at such an innocuous statement means you probably dislike Tails, or project onto Sonic and get upset at the notion of Tails "insulting" Sonic's wank by calling it bad.Especially if you try and excuse it with stuff like "Ok but this small child is kind of a whiny bitch tho why can't he be cool like Sonic?" as if him being uncool and pathetic because of his age now is good, because you wanna try and justify it happening more. It should stop.
>>152792186>>152791900>>152791831Stop projecting, Tailscel. You've been throwing melties and spamming "KEK KEK CONSOOMER" and samefagging for years now.The only annoying self-inserter here is you.
>>152792343>Tails should be awesome and fun and badass.He has never been any of these things.
>>152792365>Control F "KEK KEK CONSOOMER"Looks like it's just you. Stop seething at Tails just because of your unearned victim complex.
>>152792308>"No, my pet character HAS to be cool!"Pathetic.>>152792309Based. She's fun because she's a tool. I miss when the main cast was allowed to be more like she is.
>>152792369I disagree. Sonic will never make him lame no matter how much his self-inserters try.
>>152792385Tails should be cool, yes. What a strange reason to seethe at Tails.
>>152792392This is neither awesome nor badass.It is cute and whimsical. Romantic and imaginative. *Speedy* is a bit badass, which is the point. Tails does not need to be cool. He's a nerd, and he wins with his wits and gadgets and skill.I'll give you "fun," though. I adore this game.
>>152792365Shitting up this thread sperging at Tails because of your internet cyberbullies makes you preeeeeetty annoying, anon.
>>152792384https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/XXBK_ce1gafEd5pNa6qzgA/https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/MVdM2hmlq87ty_6ivJXJag/https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/u9dfyHFYaARxZ1atsvotBQ/https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/6nHW2IUjmgfvCw7OjE7tOQ/
>>152792414>I'm self aware in my shitposting.Shitposting is shitposting.
>>152792424It's very badass. He has a large-scale dogfight against a battleship soaring between trenches like Star Wars. He fights big robots with Bombs, spindashes, hammers or just punches. He even shoots an Oil Tanker into the ocean.He's very cool, and wins fights with his fists if you choose him to do so.Tails is cool, and Tails was cool, and Tails should be cool again. Only Sonicfags try to stop him being cool, to make him look weak and pathetic and wank Sonic off.
>>152792426Hey Tailscel, remember when you got called a "midwit" and so you got so butthurt you samefagged for an hour straight?
>>152792343>Hot take: [generic tails self-inserter opinion held by many]
>>152792424>which is the pointI think the point was that Tails beats Speedy up, twice. He's a boss battle, that's about all the point there is to his character. The fact you call him Speedy instead of XVI makes me think you're an archiefag. TLDR Tails is cool.
>>152791792>making it out like he's a weak damsel cheerleader for Sonic and can't fight.How many times do you have to see this happen to him before you realize this is just who the character is?
>>152792429Are any of these cyberbullies meant to be me? None of those images are even in this thread.Gosh you really just shitted up the whole read crying and seething at Tails because random anons called Sonic bad names, huh? Just proved my point: Sonicfags are the WORST Characterfags by far.
>>152792429>it's another "Sonicfag ruins thread because of his internet victim complex" episodeI hate reruns
>>152792385I was worried about her being another fucking redemption arc but I see potential in her TRYING to defy her conditioning and be a hero, and just not bring good enough at it. Like when she almost destroyed that townThe worst part about IDW is they keep coming up with just enough interesting ideas to keep me coming back but then they dont follow through in the end
>>152792455I don't think holding Tails to the same standard as he was in 1995 is self-inserting. I think that's just a very reasonable expectation, and so severely lowering that to shill Sonic is in fact, dunking on him.>>152792429though if you're this same anon then you clearly just seethe at Tails because you're a schizo upset at Sonic not being wanked.
>>152792505For me it's the opposite. The whole "conditioning" trope is the worst idea ever. She just has no agency of her own anymore, she does what the gay duck told her to do, and even she knows she has no real reasons anymore
I'm not trying to shit on Sage, but if she can't hack, isn't intangible and is apparently only programmed to overcome circumstances using hardware she doesn't currently have, why even send her on a mission? I feel like they were trying too hard to even the playing field between her and Belle and accidentally made her less effective than a normal person in the process.
>>152792505Pretty much my thoughts. I'm still mad that I got blue balled on a Whisper and Lanolin crashout. Mad about Whisper in general, desu. Couldn't stand Sage until now, but this arc is making her better in my eyes so far. Worried they'll bungle the ending.>>152792461>Characters have no purpose in their aestheticsWhat the fuck ever.>YOU CALLED HIM THE OLD FANDOM NAME AAAAAA ARCHIEOh my God, shut the fuck up you hysterical cuck. I am not typing his full ass name out every goddamn time. He didn't HAVE an onscreen name in the game itself! Fuck off.
>>152792560she can apparently touch things now but doesn't even think to build something herself lol. She could but she just doesn't so Belle can feel in charge of something
>>152792538I hate the brainwashing shit too, but I agree with anon that repositioning her as "wants to be a hero but is too much of a petty, vainglorious bitch to do it right" is a great direction.You have to ignore her retarded backstory. It sucks, but it's the only way she works.
>>152792577>but doesn't even think to build something herself lol.She just assumed she could hack everything. Doesn't consider other contingencies until she has to.
>>152792519"Reasonable" isn't a factor here, it's about the willingness for writers to treat Tails as Sonic's peer. Which is a long gone notion, wether we like it or not. Even Scrapnik Island, the IDW comic that is probably held in the highest regard, has Tails get spanked by Mecha Sonic, who he specifically says isn't any stronger than he was in Sonic and Knuckles.Unfortunately, even if you're justified in your complaints, and even if your sentiment is common, it seems like the only way to fix this shit is from the inside.
>>152792590True, but, isn't calculating options her whole things. She goes over a whole list of things she could do "beg Sonic to save me, he's not here, try to nav out, got no signal". Then when Belle suggests using the parts she just stands on the side and lets Belle do the building.I'm not saying they can't work together but clearly the intent was to make her seem helpless so that Belle could seem needed for something.
>>152792577I mean it's not that strange, she's used to interfacing with technology directly to solve her problems. I feel like this is more on Eggman's head for sending someone completely unequipped for this mission out on their own (disregarding two people he doesn't trust) with no special equipment or security.
>>152792480>>152792495>>152792519They're all you, and these three posts are all you as well, Tailscel. Deny it all you want; you're a pathetic samefagging hysterical sadsack obsessed with an underage fox-boy.
Severely disappointed by Sage in this arc.Expected her introduction to lead to more badass stuff and higher stakes, instead she's just twiddling her thumbs in a cave having a panic attack. She's written the same as the Lesbian OCs.
>>152792647Watching girls panic is definitely someone at IDW's fetish. It's essentially the throughline between the whole comic.
>>152792634You're making me remember in Frontiers she could also float robot parts around with telekinesis. Damn she had a downgrade, she's just Chatgpt now
>>152792647>>152792664Was the gayass fanart really necessary?
>>152792429 Sonic cuck thought his list of being bullied by randos was a gotcha
>>152792519>I don't think holding Tails to the same standard as he was in 1995 is self-inserting. I think that's just a very reasonable expectationFair enough, let's do it.
>>152792697Yup.
>>152792634Sage was essentially Eggman giving a cute avatar to an AI assisted user interface he developed to interface with (ancient) technology.Now he's sent this user interface on a mission with no user, and no technology for it to interface between.If it weren't for her line saying Eggman told her to retreat at the sign of danger, I would assume he was trying to get her destroyed.
>>152792697Sonic Jam is from 1997 THO>>152792673Evan thinks if the girls cry about it that magically makes what they're crying about compelling.
>>152792677You're asking this In a Sonic thread on /co/?
>>152792641Whatever helps you sleep at night. Now go seethe at that Fox Boy for no good reason in some other thread, you sad, sad, sad little cuck. This is why Sonicfags are the worst, most spoiled, most bitchmade characterfags in any series. You just proved it again.
>>152792677If you think about it Archie and IDW are gayass fanart.
>>152792641He samefags because he wants to convince himself that everyone in these threads doesn't hate him for being a blithering idiot. He’s so fucking pathetic. I wonder how he hasn’t killed himself.
>sage being lame in these issues complaints So accurate to how she was in frontiers? lol
>>152792616Entire problem could be avoided if her and Belle's logic matrices running any major calculations were detectable by Metal Sonic, which meant they had to shut down higher functions while the group investigated what's controlling Metal. Belle doesn't have any higher functions beyond Eggman's master/slave switch, which lets her perform better than Sage in this situation, who is significantly more complex and can do more than Belle can normally. Give Sage a chance to appreciate a simple, more efficient Eggman model while also setting up the solution to the high-tech problem will be a low-tech solution that's heavily improvised, and make the priority be forcibly removing Belle's control switch so she can be independent of Eggman and not be detected by Metal.
>>152792743There's >Annoying plot device that makes Eggman into a woobiebrand lame, then there's >WTF why is she even on this missionbrand lame.At least she had enough capabilities to help more the plot in Frontiers.
>>152792745I thought something similar. That's like a classic storytrope, digital machine gets its capabilities removed and that's where analogue machine shines. But by implying Belle can do all the same things as Sage anyway they kinda got rid of that.I'd have had the villain do it to her though. Maybe he has some EMP scrambling thing to cripple her, rather than Sage naturally just being useless.
>>152792583>You have to ignore her retarded backstory. It sucks, but it's the only way she works.the backstory (in this case lack of) is important though. theyre already there with the whole "Hating you is all I know, I dont have anything else but this" spiel to sonic. If they went the obvious route of her finding herself, or reinventing herself in a positive manner, it'd be schlock. The natural inclination is to do an End of MGS2 thing, with Snake telling Raiden that he can choose to define himself. But what if Surge tries to and just isnt capable of being who she wants, what if she doesnt have the capacity to be a hero? She has all the passion and physical powers but she's too hotheaded and doesnt have the plot armor for it to all work out in the end. Think Sterling Archer except he isnt saved by his own surprise competence. She's Larry Lynx but entirely by her own doing. It intrigues me but would they ever have the balls to do such a downer of an arc? I dont think so. Fans would certainly riot
>>152792726especially archie.
>>152792716Sonic the Screensaver is a 1996 collection of illustrations from 1993 to 1995.
>>152792802Yeah this wouldn't seem as dumb if Eggman thought Sage would have the upper hand, and she lost it somehow. But he essentially knew Sage was going somewhere outside his network the whole time, since Metal was somewhere outside his reach.
>>152792802>>152792836So the real problem is that the writers aren't drafting and outlining ideas and then having a peer review to note any logic flaws?
>>152792854Evan just makes shit up on the fly, we've known this for a while.
>>152792854the real problem is that Evan's ideas suck.
Sex with Belle.
>>152792854It's not a logic flaw that Sage lets Belle do all the work, it's just contrived and makes their bond not feel natural.Reminds me of when Starline was acting like Belle was super duper extra speshul and he simply had to read her mind to figure out how her robot emotions work. Implying no other Eggman robot has similar AI or emotions. Very forced, very gay, so noone cared.
>>152792911eggman watches you the entire time and you get splinters on your dick
>>152792911cease this perversion on the innocent and sweet puppet girlShe is for protecting my nigga
>>152792911Metal...
>>152792803I'm down for it, and Ian despises "Surge as the hero."
>>152792922Awww, someone has a daughteru.
>>152792911Continue raping the whiney melodrama wooden plank.
>>152792711>Fan art
>>152792930>Ian despises "Surge as the hero."A stopped clock is right twice a day it seems
>>152792803>>152792930Give me an arc where Surge is directly responsible for making Angel Island fall out of the sky and Chaos absorbs Kit in the most brutal body-horror style way possible, please.
>>152792945Yes, fanart. Of a real level.I don't have the game to record for you but you can ride on the surface waves and get that exact same pose
>>152792959only if Kit absorbs Chaos first (and then all his tentacles get a huge boost and have his bodyparts)
>>152793025I would absolutely be down with Surge getting the retarded idea that if she can't use the Chaos Emeralds get strong like Sonic and Shadow, she should try using the Master Emerald and fucking everything up. Then when Chaos tries to slap a bitch, Kit looks like he's won, but the MOMENT Chaos gets a single Chaos Emerald it just fucking devours that little shit.
>kitOh yeah, he exists. Sometimes I forget he does. Low key says a lot about him when designed to be the tails rival but like, kinda sucks as one (Lowkey every attempt at a rival for him desu). Not to mention as of now pretty sure he hasn’t appeared in shit like speed battle yet but surge already did with costumes to boot. I just think people just don’t give a shit about him. Honestly if he was killed off forever one day no one would care that much.
>>152792952Yeah.>>152793071That would be pretty sick, I won't lie.>>152792974This is very cute, anon! :D
>>152793189Not everyone needs to be hype. Sometimes you can be the second or third string and that's good.
>>152793205Well they literally hyped him up as one of the next big things if you remember for quite a while.
>>152793189Doesn't help that he's barely interacted with Tails.Ian (or Evan) tried to force in the middle a super rushed plot of Kit kissing Sonic's ass and thinking Sonic's the best and wanting to be Sonic's sidekick (not because Surge was dead, he didn't find out Surge was dead until the end) and that ate up any space he should've spent finding a reason to hate Tails.Now they suddenly remembered he is Tails' rival — not Sonic's — and he randomly seethes at Tails for no reason and calls him a "liar" and shit (Tails has never lied to Kit because he has barely spoken to Kit) when immediately before in the Dynamo Cage arc, Kit was seething at Sonic and didn't particularly like or dislike Tails.
>>152792880She's definitely the kind needs an editor who gives a shit, her character work is good but her arc design was never great,
>>152793237Wow that’s ass. I know there’s always the programmed hate excuse but damn that sucks. They should really drop the pretenses.
>>152793189I don't think you can really make a good rival for Tails to begin with, he's too positive for an enemy and most of his insecurities are independence related + already dealt with. Wave is probably the closest to an idea "working" but an adult woman beefing with a small child about tech just makes her look stupid and they should just lean more into the Eggman/Tails dynamics that pop up every so often
>>152793377Tails' age isn't a factor with Wave, same as it isn't with Eggman. They don't have twitterisms where they act like anyone younger than 18 is a baby and can't interact with the adults.If anything it's a good thing, because it shows Tails is a prodigy enough to equal her.One problem I have with IDW is that Wave has appeared rivalling the Lesbians several times, but has only spoken to Tails for 1 panel total. And that was just so that Amy could have a gurlboss moment yelling at her and Storm. They should use her more as a Tails rival, but they just don't.
>>152793189kit isnt supposed to be "Tails' rival" anymore than Surge is sonic's rival (she barely cares anymore) his deal is just that unlike surge he doesnt mind his conditioning and doesn't care to try and change, he's content being an asshole while surge is trying to be a better person, and undermines her attempts to do so behind her back by causing the problems she tries and fails to fix. him hating tails is just a sideshow, its just emphasis on how much more unsalvageable he is since i dont recall starline even giving a shit to pit him against tails like he did surge against sonic. it's all him
>>152793377I’ll say I went through the first two riders games, and they barely do shit with her and tails. Out of those guys, jet is the only one with anything worthwhile.
>>152793522>she barely cares anymoreSurge literally can't appear without mentioning him, even if he's not onscreen. And not even relevant to the conversation."I'm gonna be a hero for real! oh, and course squash Sonic and kill him when noone's looking because he's my rival!" kind of things she says.
>>152793552also that whole Riders arc she was singling Sonic out instead of interacting with the other racers. They're hard-sold on her being Sonic's rival while Kit and Tails have nothing going on.
>>152793298They should, it makes reading their writing incoherent sometimes when they keep making new excuses, sometimes within the same page. Like from 54 he spergs at Sonic because:"You lied to me that Surge was DEEEAAAADDD!!!” (no he didn’t, everything he said was the truth, Sonic even says this)then he starts sperging about"You were just manipulating me to keep me working for YOOOUUUU!!!!"Then when he tries to murder Sonic for lying about Surge dying (he didn't) to keep Kit working for him (he wasn't), Tails blocks one tentacle and Kit goes“AAAAIIIIEEEEEEE WHY DO YOU HATE ME SONIC, You'd never want me around when you have Tails, you don't love MEEEEE!!” (since when was this your priority you literally just said you hate Sonic for trying to keep you there and tried to kill him)then many issues later“Tails lied to me” (Tails has barely fucking spoken to you, you didn't even care about Tails before)I fucking loved Kit in Impostor Syndrome, that's why I hate this so much. Their shitty writing and refusal to write a Kit/Tails story ruined him.
>>152793552Surge as a threat to Sonic ended with pic related. She no diffed him at the end when she blasted everyone and didn't do shit, and spent the whole arc more pissed off at Clutch than Sonic (who she singled out because of blackmail). She's not Kit, they've very deliberately differentiated the two in terms of relationship with their doppelganger
>>152793607At the end she said that blast took everything out of her and she can't fight, then told Sonic out loud to survive so they can fight for real.Then the issue after she says this.Like I get the sentiment anon but they're not abandoning her obsession with beating Sonic, there's not an issue she's dropped her dumb programming plotline she's still obeying it to the tee without a real reason to hate Sonic.
>>152793607I don't think that's deliberate, anon. I think they're just bad writers who couldn't be bothered to write a Tails plot and later tried to throw-in Kit hating Tails when he didn't before. Both Surge and Kit still hate Sonic and Tails, but Kit didn't hate Tails before. He just remembered to right now.
>>152793583that's accurate portrayal of a mentally unwell hormonally imbalanced schizo obsessed with "trauma". Evan should know first-hand what that's like.
Wave is the best Tails rival because she actually has a reason for hating Tails and actually singles out Tails in all her games.
>>152792424Tails will get over the PTSD one day and return.
>>152793236I don't give a fuck desu
is it the same artist as the previous issue? Sage looks better drawn that on issue #84
>>152794479No. 84 was Mauro Fonseca, 85 is Ho Min Kim.
>>152793791Wave is Tails' Vicky
>>152790574Then it'd be hilarious and poetic if it was Sonic.
>>152792088I don't about any of the above but the one Anon who storytimed the previous issue was very annoying with their sigma critic know-it-all energy.I truly hope we keep the one storytiming this one for long periods of time.
Min ho got in with the freeriders arc. ABT's last issue is Dinner at Cream, and is then put to draw DC crossovers.
>>152794549For what it's worth, most of the people who do the storytimes keep quiet or make a passing comment or two while posting. I think I'd rather read the Soleil arc again than have the last guy do another storytime.
>>152792959>>152793071>Give me an arc where Surge is directly responsible for making Angel Island fall out of the sky and Chaos absorbs Kit in the most brutal body-horror style way possibleImagine SA1 + Surge & Kit. Like if #50 happened pre-Adventure instead. Instead of the Dynamo Cage, she tries to make for the Master Emerald and Sonic Adventure begins.
>>152792722https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/152559196/#152584489You can stop pretending you don't samefag, it's okay.
When you try to appeal to women and trannies, an IP is bound to flounder. This comic would be far more popular if it appealed to dudes.
>>152795005It really is bizarre how they're adding all this weepy LGBT therapy shit into SONIC THE HEDGEHOG of all properties. It's supposed to be about super-speed adventure, not comforting a sobbing wolf.
>>152795201>It really is bizarre how they're adding all this weepy LGBT therapy shit into SONIC THE HEDGEHOG of all properties. It's supposed to be about super-speed adventure, not comforting a sobbing wolf.Anon every action story requires drama you can't remove it you can only make it less shit the problem here is that ian and evan pretty much forgot how to write a good drama.
>>152795243Yeah, but the Whisper stuff doesn't even really tie in with any of the action. She just shows up to cry about her teammates, but her teammates are only relevant when Mimic shows up. It's not like SA2 where Shadow's tragic past fuels the plot of the game.
>>152792911Get some taste christ
>>152793791>Wave GlazingWave isnt hot like Rouge or Inspiring as Amy or Blaze. And its shown she lacks compared to Tails in mechanics.
>>152793791>>152795585Wave could work as a rival gyzmo/tech guy (well, gal) for Tails, but the problem is that she is part of a unit (Babylon Rogues, in this case) first.Similar to the Chaotix, you'll have a hard time getting her separated from Jet and Storm, and you'll have an even bigger hard time getting her to do something unrelated to Extreme Gear or racing in general.As with anything Sonic, the potential is there, but is just that, potential.
>>152795585>Wave isnt hotChildish opinion.
>>152779009A reference for people in their 40's.
>>152795700>but the problem is that she is part of a unit (Babylon Rogues, in this case) first.Then write it so she isn't. Simple.>Similar to the Chaotix, you'll have a hard time getting her separated from Jet and StormYou definitely won't, no.
>>152795243It's literally in every other issue there's some drama therapy session, it's made for women and trannies only, clearly.
>>152795817dont read it then
>>152795887I'm glad you agree with me.
>>152795927indeed, i agree, now go away
>>152795946That prolapsed rear end of yours must be really frustrating to deal with, you have my sympathies.
>>152795770
>>152795989its weird that youre still here when you should be going
That emerald mirror thing is coming back by the way, it wasn't a throw-away trap.
>>152796007You can try to make me leave if you want.
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>>152796039
>>152778933Oh no, it's scribbleSonic! Get a pencil!
>>152795811Ironically, yes it is as simple as giving her a solo story.The issue is getting Sega to give it the thumbs up.
>>152795770>no humongous milf titsHuh?
>>152796148Donated them to Cream
>>152795770I'm surprised Vanilla hasn't been redesigned. Isn't classic femininity equivalent to hurting LGBT people or colonialism or imperialism to those people or some shit?
>>152795585Wave mogs Amy and is super sexy. Plus she's a bodacious bird which need more of in Sonic alongside reptiles, they just need to actually use her more which they've finally started doing.
>>152779224>actually does add repercussions and tying to how Starlined warned them that their implants really did need to be maintained.Nah, that is above the level of writing this comic has shown.
>>152796188She's too minor of a character for them to care.Also, not sure how true this is, I once read that even the IDW crew likes their Sonic girls being sexy and having sizeable breasts. So the one responsible for Rouge's breast reduction surgery lies somewhere else.
>>152779224That would imply that Surge can suffer from the negative affects from her implants. That would imply actual drama and actual stakes. That would imply that Surge is relatable. That would mean Archie-tier writing and that's a no-no.
>>152795201Staff grew up with deviant art and archie. Forcing them to write simple IP safe material is like forcing a square peg in a circle hole.
>>152796246I highly doubt it, Anon. They want to write propaganda, no a story and they don't have any real interest in the franchise. They're being paid to peddle bullshit to kids and impressionable women and no one else.
>>152779244>Also Kit doesn’t construct random effeminate bathrooms for himself like Starline does here. He lives with Surge and sleeps on a bunkbed with her.I think that wasn't their preferred living environment, just where they were living while hiding in a Eggman base. I'm sure if Drippy made the bathroom he likely doesn't see surge as undermining as she acts.
>>152796246>She's too minor of a character for them to care.Vanilla is in the recent Tailstube and Chaotix audio drama. You guys are fighting your own made up demons and calling wins over their absence.
>>152796188Do you just get off on complaining or something
>>152796188Put your back down Anon, Jesus.
>>152779139Imagine how kino it was if it was naugus or some FF character gone bad and SEGA agreed to the fact that the universe was rebooted into the gameverse.
>>152796372>Vanilla is in the recent Tailstube and Chaotix audio drama.Hey, I welcome more Vanilla anyday of the week, and even appreciate the attempt at making her more prominent, but the reality is that Vanilla is a supporting character of another supporting character, she is unlikely to ever become a true priority for Sega.
Nice to see they got an actual GOOD artist for this issue instead of the shit ass ”””art”””” last time
>>152796425>>152796435It's a legit question, everything else that was problematic has been censored or toned back, so when will we expect Vanilla to be changed into a single mom? Or be just removed entirely? Isn't female femininity toxic to you people? I mean hell, Amy isn't even chasing Sonic anymore because women chasing men is problematic and Rouge's tits have been removed.I legit wouldn't be surprised if Vanilla and Cream were just permanently shelved from the continuity like the Archie characters.
>>152796425Well, we are on /co/, so...
>>152796450Which is why Sega wouldn't be bother if she was removed. One less problematic character.
>>152796482nah youre just being autistic and making shit up to whine about
>>152796482>Vanilla to be changed into a single mom?She isn't?
>>152796439That sort of thing is literally what they did with naugus. Making it a thing how he was made lame from the reboot, which I didn’t appreciate cuz he was cooler before.
>>152796511hasn't been confirmed whether she is or not. So ya gotta assume she has a husband working somewhere to support her and Cream.
>>152796482You have issues, dude.
>>152796502like you people with the lesbian shit?
>>152796525It sucked because reboot archie never went on for long enough for it to pay off, but here they should go all in. Make him strong as fuck. Make him taunt sonic with the names of friends he'll never remember and gloat about how he killed them, he won, and he's going to try to do it again.We need an evil as fuck wizard who isn't constrained inside a storybook.
>>152796534Says the people obsessed with identity and representation over storytelling and world building.
>>152796539????
>>152796482>Amy isn't even chasing Sonic anymore because women chasing men is problematicThat was Ian and Sega already punished him for that.>Rouge's tits have been removed.Funny enough, this one is not on the IDW guys, not with guys like ABT trying to sneak in as much boobage as he can. It is someone at Sega who is directly boycotting the Bat-tats
>>152796559Says the guy who thinks everything is done because of some secret agenda.Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, man.
>>152796555They would make a joke after all that taunting and he’d say “who?” :(Ahh but agree on the wizard thing
>>152796574>someone at Sega is a feminist activist removing feminine traits from characters.Yeah, pretty much. Vanilla will eventually be on the chopping bloc next. I mean she's a side character, why not get that easy win and just remove her?
>>152796575Yeah, tell that to Ian and Evan pushing lgbt shit into the IP, buddy.
All this stupid made up drama over the nothing character that is vanilla. Autism.
>>152796482There's multiple characters with boobs in this comic, stupid.
Is this fucker seriously implying they're trying to get rid of breasts when Lanolin exists?
>>152796673Something something pants aren't feminine and she's mean so she's a dyke.They always find a way to grouse.
>>152796673The anon could have a case if he based it on Rouge and how her game model has been compromised.Instead, he focuses on IDW and its crew, whom, despite their many issues and not secret agendas, do not go against character's tits (or asses).
Zeena fills me with a deep lust
This is from (SEGA)Sonic's youtube channel.
>>152796699Whisper does have a nice butt.
>>152796728Every mobian male says this
>>152796699I did bring up Rouge and I brought up the blatant lgbt messaging and themes in there as well. You going to make up anymore bullshit I didn't say?
>>152790449Crossworlds
>>152796778Read my post again, carefully this time, and figure that out yourself.
>>152796829You're saying I'm not talking about Rouge when I clearly am. I'm focusing on IDW in regards to what I mentioned previously.>>152796482"and Rouge's tits have been removed."I didn't mention Lanolin or Whisper because their breast and ass sizes go from moderate to flat every other issue depending on the artist.
I’m tired of this lesbians, give me a cute twink getting pounded by a bars.
>>152796868>You're saying I'm not talking about Rouge when I clearly amNo, try again.
>>152796884bara*
>>152796887>"The anon could have a case if he based it on Rouge and how her game model has been compromised"IFI did. Whenever someone talks about feminine features being nerfed, it's Rouge. I was merely stating I'm surprised Vanilla is allowed to remain feminine and once she IS properly focused on, they'll take away what feminine features she has. It's their ideology. Vanilla would be considered problematic to these people.A feminine woman is the one thing feminists loathe the most.
>>152796940Are the feminists in the room with us right now, Anon?
>>152796966Yes actually, you and these other Anons defending this stuff. You want these changes and would welcome Vanilla being removed.
>>152796827Was she teleporting all over the place in Crossworlds? I don't think she was.
>>152778885I assume he teleported and the coffin didn't disappear?I assume all the wordswordswords made the artist forget how to depict things that aren't talking people
>>152778899>give me a signal boost!>>152778903>together we sent a strong enough signal to make him freeze!Could you depict this display of teamwork? No? Okay
>>152778949>>152786050>#85>reveal is #100I sincerely hope we're not spending 17 issues inside this featureless cave
>>152794687Another one of your cyberbullies? Touch grass for an hour.
>>152790110I loved this page
>>152796966Preach it, xister! Be sure to take off your trip and upvote yourself again too.
>>152790131>>152790142>>152790854Starline didn’t even turn Eggman back, Metal did. Might as well cry about Le Tinker (again) at the Skunks, who also kidnapped him.
>>152797442>reveal is #100Nobody said that.The story is the "road to 100."We're probably getting the reveal in the next arc, then ~1 year of the big story that culminates in 100.
>>152797704>Why isn't this fictional artificial teenager being reasonable towards her kidnapper???Idk man>>152797403Yeah I don't know why they're adamant about not abstracting this stuff. I think it might actually be a Sega thing because the games do this shit too.
>>152784917>>152785117>And because she has a vagina."The character is good actually and any bad reviews are sexism."
>>152797706OhIs 15 issues enough for an IDW storyline?How long were zombots shambling on for before the abrupt ending?
>>152795700A comic is the exact place you do that though.Like she’s already appeared several times stealing treasure vs Knuckles and the ChaotixIn a Volleyball game against Sonic and the LesbiansRobbing a jewelry store vs the LesbiansIn a whole extreme gear racing arc — where Tails got knocked out and sent to walk around a hallway to introduce Belle, so that the Lesbians are the only racers actually racing.i admit they are using her for other reasons for racing, but also that just means they’re avoiding actually using her as a rival for Tails and made her a recurring rival for the Lesbians instead.
>>152797727Is she crying about being kidnapped or is she crying for the dozenth time about “Weeeeeeh muh TEEEEENNKKIIIIIIIIRRRRR!!!!”?
>>152797848holy fuck do you ever get tired of posting the same shit over and over?
>>152797403>Could you depict this display of teamwork?Its the panel where Belle's eyes spark and Sage's digital stuff floats around Belle.
>>152797937I’ll stop posting about it when she stops crying about her boring shitty backstory. Noone but Evan cares that she was made by Le Teeenkiiirr
>>152779288Yeah, but in TgT the sperg who had a meltdown over getting called mean words will try to kill him with an anti material rifle, instead of derailing into steven universe therapy shit.
>>152797848She's mad at her kidnapper because he tried to brainwash her dad.I'd fucking kill him if I was her.
>>152798423No you woyldn’t, you’d sit here reading gay tumblr steven universe comics like always.He didn’t even brainwash him, Metal turned him back from a headinjury. She’s just finding another excuse to be a whiney whinging snowflake about her backstory yet again. Maybe that’s why you relate to her
>>152798423Belle can’t “fucking kill” anyone. The only thing she can do is cry about her boring tumblr backstory. Maybe she’ll cry him to death
>>152796188Really? You're surprised that the company terrified of invoking yet more "blue arms/green eyes" autism fits isn't goinf to touch their characters if they can help it?
