>”Are you hurt, Steve?”
Bump if you're reading.
>>152857224>Baby armorCome on now.
>>152857274Who was brain?
>”I learned and I learned and I learned.”
>>152857333So what is Steve's answer to Bucky? Just killing him?
>>152857333could have been better imo
And that's it. If you liked this, support your LCS or whatever.
>>152857464So Jean can purify people of the Maker's control. Neat!
>>152857224I can't take this seriously Camp. This is supposed to be representative of the real world, right? That's what your point about all this shit is? Then you have baby-wearing baddies like that one guy in that Image comic. Jesus fucking christ.
>>152857553It's because the nazeees are literally evil 100 even though we have a literal nazi later on be portrayed as a tragic figure.
>>152857311didn't need to make him look so much like Kirby here
>>152857367sexo
Also the logistics of it all don't make any sense. So Schmidt was the previous leader I assume, right? And then the Maker had him killed I imagine. But then they have Fury give him an infinite formula dose so he can handle them for the HAND, as a sort of controlled opposition. Ok I can buy that. Then I have to ask WHY? The Maker and the council were supposed to control everything in this world, down to the fucking water supply. Why would they need to maintain a group of evil nazis just there in the background, arm them with dangerous weapons and give them all kinds of resources? Camp showed that they could just fry any random bozo that expressed wrong-think before the Ultimates were a thing. It just gets increasingly dumber the longer it goes on. I would also have taken the whole thing more seriously (The death of a radicalized old friend by his other friend's hand) if they didn't have that dumb shit about wearing babies as armor, holy shit.
>>152857626Steve went through really bad shit like basically being born with everything wrong and still ended up a good person, Bucky got broken by the pressure and submitted to evil when faced with his own mortality and sacrificed everything and everyone to avoid the prospect of dying. Tragedy doesn't excuse evil, it never does.
>>152857725Oh I know it doesn't excuse evil, it's just funny how Camp doesn't know if he wants his villains to be comically evil or tragic figures.
>>152857224Have a good time with your thread OP, I'm out
>>152857304>This machine is so advanced it has its own nervous system!>360-degree awareness!>But not anything to protect the pilot but a bar like it was a seat for a roller coasterGreat tech, Bucky.
>>152857777Nice digits
>>152857626>It's because the nazeees are literally evilYes, that's what they are
>>152857209what's this shit of Cap's father leaving the family in the 1920s? Maker's trolling again?
>>152857224>baby armourwe muslims now?
>>152857333This is why you are shipped with Wonder Woman so much, Cap
>>152858203IIRC Maker wasn't making changes that far in the past. But I know a lot of comics show Steve's mom being a single parent so it's not a novel idea.
>>152857215Is he choking him or breaking his neck?
>>152858203>>152858320Meta contextually maker probably went back to 1962 but we only really saw him back in what would’ve been the early 2000s to 2010s to see him stop pete from getting eaten. My question is how did he not find cap in all that time, he can travel in time and space freely but can’t track down a single body in the arctic?
Ultimate Wolverine feels like it should have been done several issues ago, how many times will they do this whole "we're trying to find Magik, meet some obstacle that takes up the whole issue before they keep searching for her, also some flashback about her past".
>>152857256I wonder if there was also an Arnie Roth in this situation.
really bad variant covers for ultimates this is the only good oneThe Ultimates #22 InHyuk Lee Ultimate Special VariantThe Ultimates #22 Jonas Scharf VariantThe Ultimates #22 1:25 Francesco Manna VariantThe Ultimates #22 1:100 Gerald Parel Variant
I hate this shrinking violet OP.
>>152857224We Insufferable now
>>152858560Similar to them somehow not finding Wakanda
>>152858565Because it was. It got extended.
>>152858976What do you mean?
>>152857346wolverine covers are the bare minimumUltimate Wolverine #15 Ivan Tao VariantUltimate Wolverine #15 1:25 Paulo Siqueira VariantUltimate Wolverine #15 1:100 Junggeun Yoon VariantYEAR TWO OF THE ULTIMATE UNIVERSE NEARS ITS END IN THE FINAL ISSUE OF ULTIMATE WOLVERINE!Wolverine and Phoenix track Magik right into the demonic dimension of Limbo for an epic, devastating showdown! To escape Illyana's realm of dark magic, a final sacrifice must be made, one that will lead directly into ULTIMATE ENDGAME #5!Ultimate Wolverine #16 Francesco Manna VariantUltimate Wolverine #16 Marcos Martín Ultimate Finale VariantUltimate Wolverine #16 1:25 Alex Lins VariantUltimate Wolverine #16 1:100 Ario Anindito VariantUltimate Wolverine #16 1:500 CAFU Variant
Ultimate as a line was mistake, should have just been USM. Glad it's over.
We have successfully finished the Red Skull storyline without ever touching on what in the everloving fuck has Frank Castle done to earn their adoration. Well done, team.
>>152860056He killed a bunch of people.
>>152857224>baby armorDisgusting. Is there no low the odious straight wh*te m*n won't sink to?
>>152859679I liked UXM, but speaking of the Ultimate line, when do we get Endgame 3? It says out this month but wasn't it delayed to May?
>>152857289Does that count as a glowing red weak point?
>>152858203Steve's dad was a asshole in 616 too.Him leaving would be on-point.
>>152857239John Walker never avoids getting slandered does he?
>>152860056The Red Skulls were probably the most interesting background setup storyline and one of the few I'd have enjoyed seeing explored.But they're just evil nazis with a (Red) Punisher logo instead of something actually interesting.So many ways to take it and you choose to take it nowhere.
>>152858560Tony and Reed-Doom went back in time prior to 1962, grabbed Cap's body and travelled back to post-Ultimate InvasionMaker couldn't find the body because the body wasn't around from 1962 to the city sealing in Ultimate InvasionIt's flimsy but it's their explanation.
>>152861005Brevoort hates and despises John but he's too popular to straight up kill, even maiming him couldn't get rid of him.
>>152861209He has nothing to do with his line, Camp can loathe a conservative character with no editorial input.
>>152857219This is a bit cruel
>>152857224This is something muslims do
>>152857224This shit is so evil I can only think it was ghostwritten by Garth Ennis
>>152857268>commies
>>152861790Mark Waid, back when he was doing edgy creator-owned superheroes over 10 years ago.
>>152857321>If I die, a room full of kids and pregnant women explodesWho wrote this? Mark Millar?
>>152862064Damn
>>152857224villains being cartoonishly evil is something that should never go out of fashion
Sex with Wanda.
>>152857294Zola, probably
>Hydra is literally a CIA coopted organizationBros?
>>152860428Next week maybe, but it could have easily been delayed even longer
It's over.
>>152864858>The letter did stand for France
Finally that fucking faggot Camp stopped his "WE can do something" narration dogshit
>>152860056The Red Skull and Asgard storylines were clearly meant to go on post-Maker and are now condensed into single issues.
>>152865621Camp would be the first person to alter his plans, everyone else stuck to their original stories.
>>152865811I'm convinced Camp thought he would be given some leeway since he was the one that put the most work in the universe aside from Hickman, but then reality hit him like a brick
>>152857239You think he's bothering tyring an accent?
>>152862208Camp is actually good friends with Millar funnily enough despite their wildly different povsMillar was the guy who helped him get into the industry
>>152857224I have to say it: In fiction and reality, I have seen lots of disgusting things coming from scum calling themselves "humans".... But using babies as human shields?!! THAT'S HITTING THE BOTTOM OF "LOW"!!
>>152865181I lol'd
Camp is just trash, man.
>>152860056I presume that's the point. Do you think a single one of the people out there today wearing Punisher skulls in any single flavor of their ideology have read a single Punisher comic or actually care about the character?
>>152867543They've probably seen at least one of the movies.
>>152867543I mean I imagine a bunch just buy it for a cool logo and don't think its supposed to represent someone, just how many fucking shirts of different skull designs exist out there?
>>152867495Well of course he is, had Hank Pym get shat on by his version of Hank Pym who proceeded to do nothing of note the entire run.
>>152867543I'd agree if this book wasn't currently falling off a cliff with Camp wasting every potentially interesting plot point.
>>152857274Nazis BTFO
>>152860056>what in the everloving fuck has Frank Castle done to earn their adorationThey liked the skull logo
>>152857224How did they got 20 thousand babies?
>>152859679Extremely underrated comment
>>152866334Millar's may be a pro-life antiwoke edgelord, but their politics aren't that different, both are anti-America.>And in retrospect, it’s astounding how leftist The Ultimates was, during a period when American action movies were either pro-war or purely escapist. Millar declined to be interviewed for this article, but I spoke with him at length two years ago for a profile I wrote at The New Republic, and he outlined his philosophy there. “Europeans tend to be pretty left-wing, and Scotland's always been a left-wing country, so I'm always suspicious of uniforms,” the Scotsman said. But you didn’t have to be a liberal to love The Ultimates: It was a rip-roaring action story with luscious artwork, and even though Ultimate Cap wasn’t intended as a role model, many took him as such. “People would say, 'I joined the army after reading The Ultimates because I wanted to make a difference in the Middle East,' and I was like, 'Well, I kinda meant the opposite of that,’” Millar recalled with a laugh.It's like Judge Dredd "Actually, you're supposed to hate these guys."
>>152864604>Fake opposition
>>152871448But I like Dredd
>>152859679>>152867495>>152868145Camp's Ultimates was so bad that I frankly do not believe the concept of the "shared universe" when written by multiple writers is a worthwhile pursuit.
>>152871448>both are anti-AmericaExtremely based
Endgame preview.
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>>152872844They look ugly
>>152857224This is really over the top, but when I read this panel I couldn't help but remember how Elon started to carry around his son after Trump's assassination attempt.
>>152872844We need that Meisako kiss soon.
>>152873049How about no?
>>152873049They should both kiss me.
>>152871448That's modern revisionist era crap from Millar now that being a neocon isn't popular. Millar has ALWAYS been right wi wing (see his STAS comic and the ST issues he wrote that were not ghost written by Norrison). Millar loved to boastp about how conservative Ultimates and Civil War was in the 00s and 10s
>>152872811>>152872827Think it's funny how in this small shared universe with only a handful of writers, Camp can't write Richard in-character and Hickman apparently didn't share anything about what he was doing. The entire final arc was about Richard installing a MacGuffin that would make them untraceable. Vision should have nothing to do with, nor be able to find them either. And of course they shouldn't still be in the Savage Land.
>>152873295At least he writes Richard with a little more personality. Hopefully he writes May too...
>>152857333Not sure why Steve had to kill him. Dude already completely gave up.
>>152873579Because Bucky joined the fascists and "fascists get the rope." 1610 Cap also didn't need to kick Bruce Banner in the face after he was done Hulking out and surrendered, but he did it anyway because he was an asshole and it felt good to take out his frustrations on him.
>>1528736741610 Cap was an asshole, but 6160 Cap is worse since just can't stop murdering people. He loves it, he even killed thousands in issue #2.
>>152872844Peach can't be the only person who can draw them well, what happened?
>>152874553They can't draw cute japanese teenagers i guess.
>>152875625Mora would have done them justice
>>152857239>US Agent is Marvel's only openly right-wing superhero>Ultimate US Agent is a Red SkullJesus, Marvel.
>>152857239>>152857333This feels like it should have been a much longer arc with proper characterization of the Red Skull and Bucky. No one will convince me Camp wasn't planning for this to go on for MUCH longer.
>>152872893Always have.
>>152857777Quad 7 and it’s giving Camp his deserved disrespect. Thanks
>>152857196bump, haven't read this in ages
>>152878656Oh wait nevermind I thought this was a Ultimate universe comic from the 2000s lmao, I'm an idiot. Still reading though.
>>152878665still reading
>>152857333No explosion or sound effects in the distance, then? Even if the kids are safe, Quicksilver isn't defusing a bomb.
>>152880434The important thing is a heckin Nazi got heckin merked, anon.
>Criminals can be reformed except when I don't want them to be then they dieThis core message on top of the hilariously huge revolving door of characters who change between appearances, wheel spinning plot, and no real goal for the team makes Ultimates quite possibly the first schizo-core comic book I've read
>>152872811At this point I can only assume Camp is messing up the characterizations on purpose.
>>152880950Probably.
>>152875625Anime women hard to draw in comic book style
I thought this shit was over.
>>152884121almost
>>152884121Like in 3-4 months maybe
