Whenever I see videos like this, all I gotta think is these people just don't like comics. There's 1000s of new and old books out there and will likely be something they'll enjoy but their too lazy to try them out and rather just be angry about nothing all the time.
>>152899189>WAAAAAH, SOMEONE MADE A VIDEO ABOUT SHIT I LIKEJfc, shut up.
>>152899189/co/ doesn’t like comics either
>>152899189literally everyone on this board knows your back itches and you can't reach it
>>152899189'em
>>152899189Literally who
>>152899250I don't know.
>>152899189Heh Casually Comics gets more views than most of the Anti Woke channels put together. Chuds have been screaming about the supposed end of American comic industry for more than a decade at this point yet the numbers keeps growing, they might not be as high as manga in Japan or even in North America but that would be like saying that CSM movie was a flop because it didn't make half of what the first woke Spider verse movies did at the box office.
>>152899506>Causal comicsWho and why should anyone care about the girl you simp for, fag?
>>152899189this is just a YouTube algorithm problem negativity always brings more views than positivity, top 10 bad or top 10 worst are always gonna do better than top 10 best, the Internet is always going to believe and listen to a negative opinion more, hell I think for the past 10 years a good chunk of YouTube has been revolving around drama content, I think it’s just an animal brain thing, we’re just drawn to negativity and hate more.
>>152899189Being a comic reader is like Gold Panning through shit.
>>152899521>Who and why should anyone care about the girl you simp for, fag?Pure projection
In 2017, I fucked Eric July on the train tracks behind the CSCD in Denton. Man, his ass could grip. Real tight, super bushy (have you seen his shoulders??), and a sphincter you could only dream of. I had fun at first. But he was so weirdly macho about it. He kept saying things like "thats right bitch, am I gonna make you nut?" and "fucking fag I bet you can't wait to bust in my fat hairy man ass hahaha faggot". I just ignored him and kept railing. He continued unironically calling me his bitch and a fag as he had several hands free prostate orgasms spilling seminal fluids onto the train tracks, getting more angry and dominant after each one. "Yea i bet you like dudes. You look like a pussy" he'd say "I cant even feel your limpdick bitch." I just kept clapping, wondering wtf is up with him. After about 20 minutes of railing Eric's boypussy, drenched in sweat and his cream, I finally got a nut off despite his constant berating and degrading comments. He immediately hopped off, laid flat on his back and bent his legs over his head so the cum dripped out of his asshole directly into his mouth. "The fuck you looking at? You like this gay boy?" He kept saying. After he got every last drop. He cackled like a rooster and punched me in the face as hard as he could. He nearly broke his hand, but I was fine. "Fucking fag" he said as he limped off into the sunset, shaking his wrist. That was the first and last time I fucked Eric July on the train tracks behind the CSCD in Denton.
Modern comics are kind of shit to be honest. I think it's caused by self-publishing actually being a viable option now instead of a complete joke for coked-up anarchists, there's some zoomer lady out there who would have rejuvenated the medium but she'd rather draw a webtoon than work for DC because it's more chill, she keeps all the rights, and it often pays better.
>>152899189We all can't be good lil' CBR propagandists like Anthony Gramuglia.
>>152899506I like Raph's Retro Comics, Earl Gray and Comic Construction.>>152899935Name the modern comics you've read? Also you like MHA so I doubt you have good taste.
>>152899554I would agree but the view count for grifter channels has gotten really low besides Critical Drinker, just look at the numbers Clownfish and Yellow Flash do now.
>>152899189This dude channel would be great he just stuck to doing videos about old Turtle comics and didn't try to rage bait and be edgy. He's knows his shit but it's sad he has to wrap it in shit.
>>152899570>sheI was going to say did they assume her gender, but she is drawn like a transwoman so it would be the "correct" pronoun
>>152899189>stealth marketing thread
maybe it's just me but I find a lot of comic book youtube is just people summarizing what happened in a book/run no doubt because a lot of normalfags don't actually read comics but want comics read to them. like audiobooks or something. I get why but it sucks because as someone who does read comics these kinds of videos are boring to me in sure there are actually good channels out there but they probably don't get pushed much by youjewbe
>>152900341>because a lot of normalfags don't actually read comics but want comics read to them.I've found a lot of normalfags can't figure out how comic books workYes they usually have a learning difficulty like dyslexia, no they somehow aren't fired from their jobs for failing to parse information
>>152900341It doesn't help cuz comics YouTube is like multiple communities, collectors, old guys talking to camera, guys showing off books, edited reviews, off the cuff reviews, sellers, essayists, etc. Comics YouTube peak with Blowshilselfupdude, I bet if he still did videos they be great.
>>152900367I unironically believe there's people who are visually illiterate, I remember talking to a guy and he couldn't understand the layout of fucking DKR.
>>152899189I never get these kinds of things on my recommendations so maybe it's a (You) problem. Regardless, comics do suck, those of today are all garbage and a lot of old acclaimed ones suck too.
>>152900400>Everything bad because I don't actually go find things I like and I just accept the popular negative opinion even though there's 1000s of books so they'll be something I like.Go read some fucking comics.
>>152900400Which comics are you keeping up with? This should be good.
>>152900379He was the best, He changed how I view Batman and tons of other stuff.
>>152899215This is actually true. I made a thread about Preacher last week and it got less than 100 replies and it stayed up for about 24 hours, and one guy kept sperging out about me not liking it and was just throwing out insults but wouldn't try to defend or talk about the comic at all, he was brushing off the criticism as "nitpicks" even though they were major narrative flaws and eventually just said he doesn't have time to talk about it seriously and that he read it too long ago. With attitudes like that, why are some people on /co/ still shocked nobody wants to discuss comics?
>>152900436There's no decent places to have casual discussions about comics.
>>152900456I've had great conversations on /d/ & /trash/.
>>152900436retards like that ruined the board for years now
>>152900470Unironically.
It's not the anti-woke or woke grifters that bug me, it's the fucking glorified infomercials that just hawk trades and omnibuses and don't even fucking review the book.
>>152899189there's nothing to get invested in because it'll all get rebooted anyway, manga actually have a start, middle and eventual end
>>152900421I did and it's mostly shit. Don't hate the messenger.>>152900423None but I've tried the following:First three issues of Absolute BatmanFirst two issues of Absolute Wonder WomanBatwoman #1Deathstroke #1First issue of Bleeding HeartsSeveral issues of World's FinestFirst issue of Justice League UnlimitedSentry #1first issue of Ultimate WolverineSeveral issue of the first Moon Knight by the same writer that keeps getting relaunchedFirst 2 issues of Fantastic FourA few issues of The Power FantasyFirst issue of The Voice Said KillFirst few issues of GeigerFirst issue of KayaFirst issue of Everything Dead and DyingNothing was good.
>>152900515I don't mind these channels if they're just showing what the book is like, this guy does that https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCI_DHLuP4swNBPClRECAqPg found him about a month ago and look how short the videos are but yeah 20 whole mins fuck that it's an ad.
>>152900546Bro don't like anything.
>>152900543>>152900400why are you here then
>>152900564I just have standards.>>152900571No better alternative.
>>152900543Wow it's not like every comic that isn't own by a corporation is like that too or something and it's also not like there's manga that refuses to end even after the creators pass like DB or Shin Chan...nah. ESST VA WEST!
>>152900578yeah but to go into threads where you don't like the content specifically to announce you don't like itwhat's the point
>>152900543Manga are comics, there's no difference.
>>152900515This guy comes here and does viral marketing which is rule breaking but legit reports do nothing anymore.
>>152900546The problem is that most comic runs blow their load in first 3 issues then when we're left with phantom ghost dribbles.
>>152900592What do you mean? I don't do that, which is why I guess some of you get pissy when someone says they don't like a comic and say he's trolling, because you lock yourself n an echo chamber with the storytime threads and think everyone thinks like you just because non trolls don't go around shitposting. This is a thread about the general state of comics not about a specific type of content I don't like.>>152900613Yeah but not even those 3 issues are good.
>>152900618Just say you don't like comics and move on.
>>152900633Thanks for proving my point so quickly.
>"having an experience with something so bad, that I decided that loving the thing in the first place was a mistake.” Yeah this sums up my feelings for investing in any comic character post 2000.
>>152900546>noneYeah, we knew.
>>152900456I know, but this ain't it either. Attitudes like that make you go "join em or leave em" so posters either stop coming to /co/ or just come here to do low effort bait and shitpost where they just post "shut up you have shit taste" and never elaborate further.>>152900491The funny thing is that retards like that are the type to whine about how /co/ is too fast and how it should split from cartoonfags and lament about how the quality of the board is down but they're the reasons /co/ became a shithole.
>>152900740>you should hate read bro because... you just should!
>>152899215Yup, the board has been biased towards cartoons. Unfortunately the cartoon industry imploded before the comic book industry somehow
>>152900618I mostly stick to storytimes these days because that's the only place I get decent discussion - I wanna talk with anons where the plot is going or about the reference the author usedother comic threads are meta at best or just shitting on the material at worstapologies for saying you did something when you didn't>>152900790you're not reading anything but you still want shit on it, what do you get out of that
>>152899189Your advice is just as applicable to youtube. Perhaps you should stop seeking these videos out, and you'd be happier for it.
>>152900811See >>152900775
>>152900827>you're not reading anythingAre you illiterate?
>>152899917Outstanding
>>152901182>>152900423>Which comics are you keeping up with? This should be good.>>152900546>Noneare you?
>>152899935These blanket statements are so retarded
inb4 i'm not that anon
>>152899189>1k views>sharty slangboooo get better material
>>152899506>the numbers keeps growingAnon...
>>152899189The Chuds won, fag
>>152899189>Whenever I see threads like this, all I gotta think is these people just don't like 4chan. There's 1000s of new and old threads and posts out there or could make themselves and will likely be something they'll enjoy or enjoy talking about but they're too lazy to try them out and rather just be angry and repost social media screenshots like a FUCKING FAGGOT
>>152899554>think it’s just an animal brain thing, we’re just drawn to negativity and hate more.I heard it described like this. Humans are affected and drawn to negativity more because noticing negative things would mean our survival. So like a trex attacking a caveman is pretty negative so they'd remember it more.
>>152899189>literal who shartytard opinionPeter Griffin who cares dot gif
>>152900341This is a lot of media in general, movie summaries on tiktok are more popular than some movies, people watch lets plays instead of laying themselves, comics have a double whammy of being niche AND expensive to collect
>>152899215Ain't that the truth
Not making a thread on this but I looked up reactions of Lanterns and found that bald guy who sperged out hard over pronouns was basically cumming in his pants over Grant Morrison BTFO James Gun completely oblivious Grant is a nonbinary gender neutral pronoun freak and I found it funny on multiple levels.
>>152901447You're giving off "Fellow kids" energy.
>>152901207So you really are illiterate.
>>152900642Lmao and then you turn around and prove his point. I get it though you don't want to reveal your hand and risk other Anon's telling you your tastes are shit so it's better to be on constant offence than dare to show any vulnerability
>>152900827Storytime threads don't have actual discussion, the ones that get the most replies are just full of rage, other than that they're circlejerks. If they had discussion that discussion can be shared in other threads discussing said comics.
>>152899189>sharty speaki hate that shithole is starting to leak out in the web, slowly i see more and more people talking in the soi lingo and memes that makes me feel both happy because the soiniggers are getting their shit normified and mad because they're getting popular
>>152901501>>152901207
>>152899849How is it projection. I literally never heard of this woman. Do you seriously think I'm lying?
>>152901583You know you're not clever with your whattaboutism, right? If you can't defend what you like then why do you think your opinion has any value? Deflecting to "tell me what you like so I can tell you it sucks" is just a retarded way of running from conversation just to shitpost.
>>152901756you're mostly right i'm nostalgic for that beyonder venom issueanons went ham in that thread
>>152900436Because most people are so used to negativity they just avoid it instead of trying to defend what they like. I'm sure you meant well but saying you didn't like a comic doesn't immediately come off as an open discussion but just more piling on.
>some literally who has an opinion
>>152901939>Deflecting to "tell me what you like so I can tell you it sucks" is just a retarded way of running from conversation just to shitpost.Or you can man up, take a risk and actually try to have a conversation instead of going on full offence because you're scared of the response
>wojak thumbnail
>>152902145Hell as a show of good faith I'll start. I'm enjoying the new Usagi 84 series, it's got some pretty killer art but we're still only on issue one so who knows what'll happen but I'm looking forward to it.It also led me to the Usagi Yojimbo story times which have been really enjoyable, I read the series a decade ago but stopped around issue 28 so I'm looking forward to finishing things.
>>152901829Yeh you can see normalfag college girls posting "gem alert" gifs on insta, it's all basically mainstream, same with incel shit
>>152902005>they just avoid it instead of trying to defend what they likeBut he didn't avoid it, he made a lot of posts in the thread, it's just that instead of having a discussion about it he was sperging out and ultimately said he he doesn't have the time to talk about a comic he claimed to love.
>>152901829Site culture just doesn't exist anymore. Chanspeak, tumblrspeak, shartyniggerbabble have all broken containment and merged into a big formless globohomo blob that you can't escape from and I hate it.
>>152899935The industry did it to themselves
Basedjak culture wonCope and seethe oldfags
>>152902439this isn't the win you think it is
>>152902351It’s so surreal to me hearing and seeing things like looksmaxxing, gemmy, and foid being used by the internet at large. I guess even with such ridiculous terms like that, it still finds a way to leak out to the masses albeit in a stale, watered down way. Some things never change
>>152902439This goes hard if you're twelve.
>>152902145Take a risk on what? Are you even human or a bot? I'm not interested what you think about what I like, if you can't defend the things that you like then shut up.
>>152902463Why, because you fags refuse to move on? I'm sorry, but you queers will seethe literally anytime a basedjak is posted. Dosen't matter what it is, you just get unnecessary angry at the image.>>152902526>Yea, that's right. I'm beyond such childish humor. Now will you excuse me, I'm off to go watch my tramadump show for 12 year olds.
>>152899189I don't get wojacks in my algorithmHow brown and young are you?
>>152902606>refuse to move onThe irony...
>>152900436>>152900456>>152900491>>152902005That was me. Let's get something straight: this guy that made the Preacher thread was arguing in bad faith. He would vomit tons of issues he had with the comic every other post, and that's fair. But then I saw some anons explaining things and defending the comic, and he would kinda brush them off and add ten more complaints, most of them indicating he did not understand what the comic was going for. As I read down the thread, I noticed he didn't really want a discussion, he wanted people to agree, which many did. Otherwise, he wanted every nitpick addressed, which going by his previous responses, would have prompted more complaints. As for the insults, he started it.Here's his thread:https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/152804046/
>>152902351The only way isolated webculture can exist is now straight up in through TOR and shady websites forumsNothing is sacred and Nothing will be left on its own bubble away from the Mainstream internet unless someone outright severes the conection and even that isn't enough because a tourist can still just come over and make a youtube video exposing this separated bubbleThis is the future They Wanted, this is the future They Got and this is the future We Must endure.
>>152903228First one to insult is the guy that just said you're too stupid for Preacher.
>>152903893That wasn't me.
>>152904012>>152902910>Deflecting to "tell me what you like so I can tell you it sucks" is just a retarded way of running from conversation just to shitpost.
>>152902625It would only be ironic if sőyjaks were a dead meme. They can't ever die. They're such a blank slate you can make them into anything you want, and they're so simple to make, anything can be a söyjak.
>>152904028It's still the first one insulting without actually trying to talk about the comic.
>>152902545Lmao ok I tried >>152902206but you obviously aren't worth the effort. Kindly do the world a favor and kill yourself you spineless faggot
>>152899189>guy with blackcel beard>prominent soijak imageHe is advertising to you that he is retarded.
>The only storytimes is Scott Pilgrim. I hate this gay fucking board.
>>152904968Actually there's 3 more, the annual Usagi storytime, Crime doesn't pay and Hello from Halo head but yeah that's a very low number of storytimes.
>>152899554>>152901385Yeah more people need to be reminded of this. People and companies have gotten very good about exploiting that part of the brain. I also want to point out whoever this account is in OP's image is very blatantly using that negative framing for shilling. The very first line in the description is a link to merch and other social media. It's all very cynical and desperate.
>>152899189This is just a grifter.
>>152904968disingenuous post there are constantly storytimes on here especially on/near Wednesdays when new books get dumped
>>152905501She-Hulk didn't get storytimed.
GEMMY GEM GEEEEEEEEEEEM
>>152904099They're an old meme. You don't see anyone using trollface anymore.
>>152899189I like comics and tried to start a channel once but I was really awkward back then. I'd like to try again but I dunno it's hard to put yourself out there like that
>>152904099they stopped being funny once ꜱoyteens became puritanical pro-censorship rightoids and not just trolls trying to get a laugh.
>>152900811>the cartoon industry imploded before the comic book industry somehowAren't Indie titles, both comics and animation, doing fine right now?
the only based channel is comics by perch
>>152907801I prefer Thinking Critical.
>>152903407Normalfags will never figure out TOR, they're fine with watching their favorite youtuber talk about the "weird" and "mysterious" stuff they find on it when it's really just schizo babble and arthouse projects or CIA honeypot serversAnd the normalfags who go on shady website forums are actually just mentally ill people who may as well not be normalfags at all, that may as well go for the "normalfags" who understand TOR
>>152899506/co/cksucker...
>>152900593No/co/cksucker/co/pe harder
>>152899189Comics were never good. We should have all been studying war 16 hours a day and then die at 24 as a drone with a bomb strapped to it blows up in our face.
>>152899189I'll take a dozen of these over 1 faggot grifter sucking faggot cock for 3 hours existing. Took this nigga 10mins to get his point across, and it takes right wing incels 4-6 hours of diaper dumps.
>>152908232not bad
>>152901829sharty speak becoming mainstream will throw a fucking wrench to the already irony pozzed social behavior of internet lurkers
>>152902439>wanting to be a likeness to a cucked loser who does not try and be a better person>heh-I won oldfag...probably a virgin to
any thumbnails with Wojaks are already cooked
>>152899554>I think it’s just an animal brain thing, we’re just drawn to negativity and hate more.I think it's more that we repress a lot of negativity in our daily lives, whether to keep focus on other things which aren't that satisfying either or to avoid fights with things that would actually hurt us if we pissed them off.
>I don't like current comics.>YOU JUST DON'T LIKE CURRENT COMICS!
>>152908478>>152908562Same thing.
>>152899506>the supposed end of American comic industry for more than a decade at this point yet the numbers keeps growing,May I see them?
>>152900306Dude's getting desperate and needs the view count...
>>152900436I know this may be shocking but a lot of the time people just don't want to talk to someone who shits on something they like. They don't want to have to play defense, they don't want to have to be part of you trying to 'win' a conversation by 'proving' that they're 'wrong' for liking something they do. It's pointless and usually a waste of energy once you leave you teens.
>>152900546You just don't like comics desu.
>>152899506the queen of comics
>>152903228You didn't even try to talk about the comic, you talked more about Hellblazer than Preacher and that's my point, you deflect. I brought up legitimate criticism and you just ignored it, how can you say that whole Salvation arc wasn't the most blatant filler arc made solely to stretch out the number of issues so it ends at 66? Likewise the ending where I explained why it doesn't work and you just refused to address it. The most you had was just say that "it's supposed to be humor" and keyword, supposed, a lot of the humor just wasn't funny.>>152914870So you just want an echo chamber? Sometimes people are open to letting others tell them what they missed and understanding why some people like a thing, but when your only response is to insult the person that doesn't like what you like and try to talk about a different comic then that's a you problem so don't try to pretend you're here for discussion.I would understand if you don't want to keep playing defense on the same subjects like why cape characters don't kill villains, at a certain point you said what you wanted to say and the same threads just keep popping out every few days, but ironically those threads always get replies while a thread trying to discuss a comic doesn't. It's not hard to talk about why you like something and why it works for you but if you get butthurt when people point out flaws then, again, that's on you.
>>152899506>>152914995Ohhh, I understand now. Bluesky is "reading" comics through breadtubers, that explains the state of discourse.
>>152915779You lying by exaggeration is not helping your case. THAT is why no one wants to argue with you.
>>152899189>Normalfags misusing sharty speakGrim
>>152901385>So like a trex attacking a caveman is pretty negative so they'd remember it more.Tell me you failed biology without telling me you failed biology.
>>152900316Is that what trannies look like in the porn that has melted your brain?
>>152917654it could he has no idea what a regular woman looks like given he doesn't leave his basement
what the fuck is a breadtuber
>>152918019A commie.
>>152907233Fuck if I know how comics are doing, but the indie scene hasn't produced anything that the /co/ hivemind considers "good".
>>152900341Cartoonist Kayfabe was a really great one
>>152902473> and seeing things like looksmaxxing, gemmy, and foid being used by the internet at large.Even old media institutions like SNL do it, though of course it’s not actually directly coming from the original communities. With looksmaxxing and mogging in particular >incel forums and boards on 4chan centralize conversations/observations about looks and dating, creating hyperbolic terms to describe real situations below average men experience >a couple of years later, faggot influencers and grifters/dumb zoomers take this information and use it to sell products and get rich while pretending they created these ideas >mainstream media makes of these guys and terms while failing to realize the original context of these terms and ideas >and even if they do realize it, they just hand wave it aside and say it’s all “problematic” Crazy but depressing to see https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4XMPLdiXB1k&pp=ygUEU25sIA%3D%3D
>>152917374Brother, this type of post is exactly what I mean, you have nothing to say but still feel the need to shade someone for not not liking what you do. Posts like this just show you're immature and the kind of shitposter that whines about the state of the board but makes no effort in trying to be a good poster himself.
>>152918664"Was"?
>>152919524newfag retard
>>152919657I've never watched anything from him. Didn't know he's apparently dead.
>>152918664Not really, all they did was go "OoOhhH LoOk at da LiNeSsSSS", they were very low brow. The interviews were sometimes good because of the people they had on.
>>152918019back in my times we called them jewtubers
>>152899189Maybe modern comics just suck?
>>152900666This
>>152915779>So you just want an echo chamber?As an internet oldfag, to an extent, you need an echo chamber for a community to be engaging. It can be communal enjoyment or hate, and in the former case you can hate things within a subject if the overall thing is liked by everyone in a group.Even though a forum is theoretically made for debate, a being on the defensive is exhausting. The internet was slower but more engaging when you were among likeminded people. I think thats why people flock to discords.
>>152919815They could have been doing what you claim and it'd still be better than 99.9% of comic youtubers and "journalists"
>>152919815That's not what they did faggot
>>152919451>Posts like this just show you're immature and the kind of shitposter that whines about the state of the board but makes no effort in trying to be a good poster himself.This is another problem: your accusations apply to you, but you point fingers at others. You wrote that sometimes people are open to other opinions, but you're not, let's be honest. I'm not going to claim to you are the reason the board has no discussion like you did, but you are absolutely not helping matters. You are the type of poster that wastes other people's time, twisting and pivoting to get your way, not behaving like an adult at all.
>>152920172Well if you want an echo chamber there's always reddit. The best discussions I ever had on 4chan or old forums where with people I didn't fully agree with but I could see where they were coming from and they could see where I was coming from. Do you really think this tribalistic way of doing this is right? Because that's what the internet is now, it's fractured into echo chambers and nobody really wants to talk about things. Take a moment and truly tell me you don't see that I'm making a good point here, I mean, if you like something then you should be able to talk about said thing at length, it's not "being on the defense" as much as just telling others why certain things worked for you. It reminds me of how midbrow self described cinephiles can't talk about what they like and just say "writing's great, acting is great, directing is great, editing is great, pacing is great" and when you try to talk to them and ask "what do you think the directing is great" then just give out stock "let's agree to disagree" type replies where they pretty much admit they don't even know what "directing" or "editing" even means.If you're just going to hop on your high horse and refuse to argument your opinions and just hurl insults at people, especially the ones that try to talk and offer legitimate criticism on something then you don't really want discussion. And really, that's why the quality of 4chan is so down now, it's just ragebaiting, wojak replying and the people that want to discuss get discouraged to come here for serious discussions because when they try, they get told "I don't have time to talk about this ting I like".
>>152902473sharty is the new 4chan so it makes sense
>>152922462I feel where you're coming from, but you're going about this the wrong way. You can't expect to get an answer to every one of the flaws you mention from a dying comics and cartoon board. There are maybe a handful of people left that even read the comic. I've been in the same boat as you, but worse, though I also admit I went about it all wrong. I dared to question the legendary status of Claremont's X-Men, and I was branded a contrarian, a shitposter, a hater of comics, all sorts of negative things. I didn't get any real response until another anon mentioned how wordy Claremont is, and the thread exploded with accusations of illiteracy and zoomerism. The best answer I got was basically "you had to be there", but my main question was about it holding up today. I was expecting too much. X-Men is an old property with tons of comics. Most people into the series read Claremont many moons ago, though they remember details about characters and events, don't remember exactly if they read well or not.
>>152914995Is she bald ? why does she always wear wigs ?
>>152923189>to every one of the flawsHow about at least one then? And I just checked, the thread was up for almost two entire days, and let's not pretend like I was trying to talk about some obscure comics, Preacher has always been a fan favorite /co/ series. And see, by talking about this, we end up expanding by me asking, if a thread on Preacher can't get discussion, how do you expect a thread about a a comic book of more modest popularity would do? Or God forbid an obscure one. And on that note, I have to ask the fans: if you like the comic and you come to a comic book board but don't want to talk about it, then why come to the comic book at all?I know what you mean about Claremont's X-Men because I feel the same way and on that note, if you've tried to talk about it more than once, how do you feel about bot like replies that seem to always pop out every time? Like how some always show up to tell others that if they have a problem with how wordy he gets then they are illiterate and others have to point out that most of the words Claremont puts on the page are superfluous? See, that's my point, these daily dose shitpost style "you're illiterate if you think Claremont is too wordy" always get replies but when I point out how the ending of Preacher is bad I don't get any serious replies even though I'm talking about why it doesn't work, like hear me out:(1/3)
>>152923532by the time we reach the end Jesse has a woman he supposedly loves more than anything ever and we're (more told by Ennis instead of shown) that their romance is this incredibly strong thing and just a few months ago Jesse found out his mother is still alive and he made a lot of friends like Amy and all the people of Salvation and even Arseface, but despite it all he chooses to sacrifice his life just so God can die, so you're telling me he loves Tulip so much but he would rather die than be with her just to kill an entity that's no longer even sitting on the throne in Heaven just because he met some really bad people in his life and that's God's fault (nevermind the fact that in the end, it all worked out, he had friends, a power that would enable him to do anything he wanted, a woman he would want to spend his entire life with but... he would still prefer to die than spend a day more next to Tulip. Narratively it just doesn't work, just like how him and Cas living at the end is just deus ex machina. It's just how I said that he went too far with making Starr a clown that it just stop being funny because its too much and also, it's just stupid to make the main series antagonist with the most screentime such a joke and then I was told that he's just a comic relief antagonist but when I asked who are the real antagonist The Grail was mentioned... anon, how are The Grail legit when for all intents and purposes Starr IS The Grail, he's the one controlling them and calling the shots so how are they legit but he's comic relief, how can they be legit if they answer to a clown? Mind you Tulip mauls those dozen highly trained operatives at the end with ease like it's Ramboette 2. (2/3)
>>152923548It's one thing not to remember details but when you can't remember major plot points then do you even really like the comic? and a lot of people on /co/ always say they've reread their favorites 5 or 7 times so how do they not remember? That's just being stupid and empty minded. I can't talk details about a comic I read 3 years ago that I DIDN'T like but I will try to talk about details in a comic I actually liked but read 10 years ago.If people don't make an effort to talk about things then that's how discussion dies out, people won't keep trying to force discussion if they get replies like "I don't have time to talk about this thing I claim to love".And here I am, I made a huge wall of text reply split over three posts. Is it autism because I wrote too much? Or can you see that I'm genuinely just trying to have a discussion here? You tell me, but I'm not insulting anyone that actually like it, I'm telling you why things just don't work in the comic and it's not "because I don't like it" it's because we're shown how Jesse has a lot to live for and yet he would rather die out of spite. Same way Tulip is angry at him at the end for not "trusting her to have his bad" when she should be angry that his plan was to die and leave her.(3/3)
>>152919815They talked about art processes a bunch, speaking from experience. You're retarded.
>>152924708They were hacks that did shitty comics and fucking retellings of older Marvel comics. Their "experience" was minimal.
>152925179Bait used to be believable
>>152923532>>152923548>>152923564Let me start by saying: this is bad formatting. Lots of run-on sentences and your thoughts are out of order. You're leaving it to others to piece together your thoughts, which isn't fair.Another reminder is that you had the benefit of reading it recently, but I read it over a decade ago, with occasional glances through pages containing favorite moments over the years. I have since read and watched thousands of fictional works. Your analysis is also colored by a distaste you acquire by reading a lot of something you don't like, and that's a bad aftertaste that's hard to shake.Yes, Preacher is flawed and silly, but its strengths outweigh its weaknesses for me; clearly not the case for you. I realize it's a trashy neo-western adventure tall tale with supernatural elements based on Ennis' favorite American media. Ennis' strengths lie in camaraderie and snappy dialogue, and the relationships and arcs he built kept me interested throughout. It's crass, but it's fun, at times moving, otherwise absurd. Now let me address your points. Jesse had a duty to fulfill at the end, like a cowboy, like Gary Cooper. This duty is more important than love. It's the irrationality of the western hero.Jesse and Cassidy living is, as you put it, deus ex machina, quite literally, as God intervenes after Cassidy's bargain. The many interwoven ploys at the end was a neat trick. You had six or so characters with different motives that had built up to the finish. I thought it was executed well enough. Making the main antagonist a laughing stock was a choice I didn't mind. Starr was a persistent and cruel little cockroach, and he wore his scars with resentment, so his misfortunes and antics were entertaining. In different stories, villains take on many shapes.
>>152923564>>152925541Tulip going full Rambo, or Nikita, from what I recall, was a conceivable progression. She was always good at guns, but after the hunting incident with her father, she hated them. It's why early in the story, she botched an easy kill; it was the first human she fired at (though not the first she aimed at). As the story called for her use of more and more firepower, she became comfortable and eventually extremely lethal with guns. She held onto her promise of leaving him due to his chauvinistic tendencies, including both keeping her out of danger and sacrificing himself, because he ultimately did betray her, after all they went through. He wasn't planning on being alive to face that.I would like to read the whole comic again, and I feel that I'll get more out of it because of what I have since read and watched, but we'll see. Maybe it doesn't play out for as good as it did the first time. I have reread several comics now that I no longer enjoy. It won't be for a while because I have a lot to read.
>>152899189Ppl need to read more webcomics like Hagniss. This is some good stuff man.
>>152926104>HagnissWhat's that about?
>>152926810google
>>152917414I hope they ruin it.
>>152927195It's about Google? No thanks.
>>152899506The numbers aren't growing and the chuds are right. Cope harder. Manga is better than comics because it has better art, hot girls, cooler action, and a wide range of story lines and genre's that are usually the brainchild of a single creator with a vision rather than too many cooks in the kitchen. Wokeness only negatively impacts comics in the since it reduces the amount of hot women and cool dudes to sell merch of. The politics literally wouldn't matter if the there were big tits and badass guys.
>>152899189He's been blackpilled.
>>152927674>manga is better because more genres>but also I only read shounen battleslop
>>152927674Just sounds like Dc and Marvel should try out the shonen jump system and publish books not connected to the multiverse.
>>152899506>>152914995She's ugly.
>>152899189>tatoruzu?
>>152927883This.The biggest mistake western comics made was trying to make everything capeshit. It's fine to have brand synergy and crossovers, but there is no real reason to have all of DC's roster be in the same setting other than short sighted corporate greed and a manchild's inclination to smash action figures together. If you want to have a coherent story, you have to let it be its own story rather than one story of billions.
>>152899215This place is just like /v/ huh?
>>152927757Shonen is not a genre. Shonen alone has more genres than comics.
>>152928308Oh no, for that /co/ would need an unhealthy obsession and unconditional worship for an ongoing book that was only good from the late 80s to the late 90s and has been complete fucking garbage since, and... Oh. Well, nevermind.
>>152925179Looks like >>152924708 was right about you again
>>152925541>Another reminder is that you had the benefit of reading it recently, but I read it over a decade agoAnd as I said>but I will try to talk about details in a comic I actually liked but read 10 years ago.The thing is, all you're saying is that these characters are archetypes and do what they do because of it, and that's bad writing, when you can't shake off these tropes, if you will or cliches that come with the archetype then the characters don't feel real, you're saying >It's the irrationality of the western hero.And that's just unsatisfying, you're just saying he's a rigid archetype of a character instead of a real three dimensional complex character. Basically you're telling me Ennis went full meta but didn't do anything interesting with it and just used rigid definitions of archetypes instead of creating his own characters "he does it because he's a cowboy archetype and that's just how they are" doesn't work.>It's crass, but it's funSometimes, but like I said when you do it too much it just stops being funny. Featherstone that blond Grail agent that was in love with Clown Starr just isn't funny, just as how after a while him getting shat on but still being the most competent person in The Grail ceased to be funny. And I'm not saying stupid shit can't be funny, the devil getting killed by The Saint of Killers is a bit funny in a "haha, what an idiot" type of way but you need balance and that's what Ennis does not have, he does too much.>Ennis' strengths lie in camaraderieBut where is the camaraderie? Jesse and Cas just become bff at first sight and then it turns out they both hate Chapplin and love Laurel and Hardy and both got to see Bill Hicks live and it's just silly. But ok, after a while you buy into it and the moment Jesse falls out of the plane you see that camaraderie between them but then he retcons Cas into the biggest piece of shit ever and when he finds out Jesse survived he's just like "whatever".(1/2)
>>152929219>>152925627She went from botching a kill from 2 feet away to killing a dozen agents out in the open with no cover, even by your definition she went from shooting cans to being the perfect killing machine in a matter of weeks. It's a retcon because in the first issue Jesse said "I thought you didn't like guns" and the first time Amy shows up they fangirl over guns and they say one of the things they first bonded over was guns and Amy is already carrying an Arsenal with her and Tulip already had to use guns again before she met Jesse when she saved Amy from being raped. Preacher is full of retcons and you can't deny it, same way Saint of Killers can kill god with his guns but earlier on those guns couldn't kill a lousy vampire, but that happened before the Saint of Killers mini so it happened before he fully fleshed out how the character would work.>She held onto her promise of leaving him due to his chauvinistic tendenciesBut that's just robotic. He didn't break his promise to her by being chauvinistic, he simply chose death over being with her and she shouldn't have forgiven him in the end. His "mission" meant more to him than she did, it's a choice and that's how story works, you can't just put your hands up and just go "can't be helped, that's just what that character archetype does". Anyway, once your focus too much on just excusing characters acting irrationally to what you've shown the readers they're supposed to be like by saying they just act like classic character archetypes then you bring into the spotlight that Ennis just writes mary sues that can do no wrong, knows everything and in the female character's case, can't even interact with the main story consequently.(2/2)
>>152928389You are so insecure and pathetic.
>>152928357Completely missed point, didn’t you
The reason manga is winning is because what gets translated is mostly average or above. Comics have a lot of shit and no way to cut through the fat easily.
>>152929461Your point is that he is a shonentard but that still doesn't excuse you from mistakenly thinking shonen is a genre like most idiots do.
>>152929493One of the dumbest posts I've read on the subject ever.
>>152929493The reason manga is winning is because there's actual variety and it isn't all tied to each other in the stupidest possible way. Who can bring themselves to give a shit about western comics when literally anything could be retconned at any moment in time, and even if it isn't, it's unlikely to even be acknowledged in the future at all? With manga, it's all by one guy, there's no need to worry about some shithead senior writer demanding the character they're using for his own ongoing and getting that shit cancelled entirely.
>>152899189Maybe make floppies worth buying or else it's just slop for the goy cattle who obediently buy whatever worthless dreck; doesn't even have to be from the big two or the little three (Image, IDW, Dark Horse).
>>152929584Yeah, you keep missing the point like a butthurt tool
>>152899215>>152899506This. /co/ is no longer made up of comic and cartoon enthusiasts. It's a place where Sharteens come to talk about the new YouTube videos when they aren't doxing people.
>>152929728>because there's actual variety It’s an illusion of variety >It’s all by one author!Except when it’s not. Like tons of people have actually assistants do everything and the mangaka just does key pages and face details. And western comics offer single creator comics too.>there's no need to worry about some shithead senior writer demanding the character they're using for his own ongoing and getting that shit cancelled entirely.Once again you’re crying about superhero specific petty grievances you hold and claim it applies to all comics, like an idiot
>>152929778>It’s an illusion of varietyI can tell you're a retard immediately. Fuck off, dipshit.
>>152930035Truth hurts
>>152929778Cry more, dipshit. Your tears won't warp reality.
>>152929749No, it's largely used for lewd/porn fanart-sharing.
>>152923189I was there and you were a fag who would “no you” every explanation and claim you are enlightened because you read “a depth of literature”. You sound just as autistic as the Preacher guy. No one wants to have an endless debate with an anon with main character syndrome. Both of you can’t concede a single point or make any effort to prove he wants anything out of the discussion other than an ego trip. Most anons don’t want to waste the energy on stubborn tards who think they’re entitled to other people’s attention and interaction.
>>152929219Again you fail are getting interaction because you’re unable to concede any point or show you’re not a stubborn sperglord. The anon you’re responding to has more of a conversational and ambivalent tone. You address none of his post except the things you disagree with. No one wants to have a conversation with someone who just autistically fixates on pedantic disagreements and never “yes and’s”.
>>152899215What about cartoons
>>152929728It's a lot of factors.
>>152929728Most people don’t get that far to care about continuity in comics. Comics have a bad reputation and stink to them the same way western animation does. Comics will never become mainstream until the industry overcomes its perceived image.
>>152899506no, critical drinker and his ilk get millions of impressions. Chuds love angry rant vids.
>>152899935>Modern comics are kind of shit to be honestYou guys have said this since the 90s. kek
>>152929746You're mindbroken.
>>152899189I swear to God the quality of this website would increase tenfold if e-celeb threads were banned and had a containment board.
>>152931790Auto-ban all twitter post threads too
>>152931531Yes and things have gotten increasingly worse and the sales match that claim.
>>152932116>sales match that claim.Sales don't reflect the quality of the work. Kids migrated to manga and the writing there is hit or miss.
>>152932152Sales of manga are increasingly globally. So I guess they never miss, huh.
>Wojak cancer spreads over the years and roots itself into every social media site on the web>Now retards are adopting sharty lingoWe are beyond terminal.
>>152900580DB ended for 18 years, and now after Toriyama passed it's not being continued?
>>152932209The no.1 selling manga is onepiece aimed at little kids. The highest grossing anime are at aimed at kids. Comic sales are lower because the youth migrated, even so the manga industry is struggling. A few titles sell while most are canceled.
>>152932437Capeshit is aimed at little kids. Comics are aimed at little kids.
>>152932488Capeshit is aimed at teens
>>152932488Kids don't read comics anymore. Only manchildern read this shit.
>>152899215I love comics. I will not be denied my comics. My precious comics. There are many I love. You wouldn't know any of them, they go to school in Canada.
>>152899935>I think it's caused by self-publishing actually being a viable option nowWhat decade did you time-travel from? TMNT was self-published back in the mid-80s
>>152923293A lot of black chicks shave their real hair and wear wigs because white people hair is more pleasant than black people hair, or so I gather. Ancient Egyptians did this too
>>152899189cant second screen comic and>comic audiobooksyoutube isnt for people who enjoy visual media anymore
>>152932488You don't have kids or work around them, they're obsessed witth one piece and demon slayer. None of them care about superman, batman comics, kek.
>>152923532I'm going to explain the problem to you: nobody gives a fuck about you disliking comics. Absolutely no one. People who like comics don't want to listen to some mouth-breathing sperg talk about all the things wrong with comics, it's just unpleasant.You think you're Linkara or something, that you provide value with your "criticism", but in actuality you're just an asshole nobody likes.I say this as someone with no strong feelings for Preacher or X-Men.
>>152932513So is One Piece so what is even the point of this discussion?
>>152932619That was pre-Diamond monopoly. During the Diamond era self-publishing was made harder and harder to the point we're it wasn't worth it. Crowd funding has open that back up in a big way to varying quality.
>>152930547>>152930594The only autistic one is you. Just look at your shitposts, you have nothing to say, just hurling insults like a fucking loser.And I did see his point about archetypes but I elaborated on why that is bad writing, if you can't create characters that have their own lives and opinions and their actions are organic then you are a bad writer.You dare accuse someone of main character syndrome for trying to talk about a comic book on the comic book board but you don't think you suffer from it when you butted in to say nothing substantial and just tell other how much smarter you are. Get a life, bro, or at least stop lying to yourself that you're not a shitposter.
>>152932831This is why nobody likes you or wants to talk to you btw
>>152932831Dude, you've got problems.
>>152929441Ironic, coming from you
>>152932862>>152932924You're one sad little fuck.
No more attention for you.
>>152900436What did you expect? Ennis is awful.
>>152929219>>152929225They're not archetypal exactly, but remnants of archetypal qualities live in them. The chauvanism is hard coded into Jesse because of his childhood, watching westerns, his father's words, and living under the heel of Jody and his grandmother. I don't know your upbringing, but I grew up in a chauvinistic household and I watched westerns as a kid, and there are qualities from all this that I still live with to this day. You change after a time, and Jesse begins to change this particular aspect by the end. To me, Jesse feels somewhat real, but he's definitely larger than life. If you're looking for a fully realistic character in this story, you won't find that. This is a transgressive tall tale after all. The comedy doesn't always work, I agree, but it's not super bothersome. I know some people despise it.Cassidy being scum is not a retcon. He is a junky with a heart of gold, and that type of brotherhood only goes so far. He's also virtually immortal, so despite many attempts at reform and experience, that gnawing habit to do bad always comes around. When he sees Jesse again, he sees him knowing he fucked up bad.Tulip evolves over the course of 60+ issues, which I think was several years, but I'm not sure. When she saved Amy, there was more of an urgency. The hit job was somebody she had not interacted with.Cassidy surviving Saint of Killers I think is an actual retcon. I don't remember if that's ever explained.
>>152934532>The chauvanism is hard coded into JesseBut you're doubling down on this when I said this is not the problem at the end. Tulip shouldn't have gotten mad at Jesse because he didn't trust her to have his back, she should have been mad because he chose death over her, you can't have the argument that he didn't trust her to have his back because he didn't want to someone to have his back, he wanted to have his back exposed and die. This is a major problem.And it's not about "being realistic", I think /co/ really misuses that because they have a rigid idea of what "realistic" is supposed to be. I'm saying that if you portray a character in a certain way then it becomes natural for the character to move forward in a certain way. His rage towards God does not feel real, I get that he encountered some bad people in his life and wants to just blame God for it instead of those people but in the end he gets revenge on Jodie and his grandmother, his mother turns up to be alive and God even brings Tulip back from the dead so narrativelly it just does not make sense for Jesse to kill himself just so he kills God. These two examples I'm highlighting are flaws in the writing because you can't just have Jesse repeat that he loves Tulip more than anything and then show that he values killing God above having a life with her and you can't have Tulip be mad at Jesse because he's a chauvinist pig because he didn't want someone to watch his back, he just wanted to die and leave her.>with a heart of goldBut it turns out he doesn't. After Jesse falls out of the plane he turns into a complete jerk and then his flashback issue shows that he was always a cunt that just abused people.And as I told you, even early on like in the first 12 or so issues when Amy 1st shows up they're already fangirling about guns as if they have a long history with them and then without prior combat she just takes out a dozen highly trained men with just one gun. It's not evolution it's just retcon
>>152934721He chose duty over her, not death. I'll post more later, I'm still at work.
>>152933189That's at least two of us. Maybe it's time to realize that you're the problem.
>>152934721>>152936351From what I remember, she's angry at him leaving her out of making a big decision. Him going off to get killed is part of that. She knows he loves her, that's no longer in question. You're minimizing God's malignancy in this comic. God in this comic is extremely petty and evil, if we get right down to it. Siding with his grandma just to prove a point is pure evil. He's more of a Bible Belt's version of God, one that religious hicks rub in your face. Jesse witnessed tons of brutality and bullshit at the behest of this God, not just some bad people.Cassidy is a junky with a heart of gold, not merely a heart of gold, which you left out. And this may not be the proper way to phrase it, but he's essentially a walking contradiction. He's this nice guy with a very ugly side, and the very ugly side eventually wins out. I've known several people like this. They are very jovial, very giving and friendly. They're your brothers until the habit or some other shit wins out. There's no way to help them for that long without coming to harm yourself.I'll have to look out for that bit about Tulip and guns.
>>152930547That wasn't me. I'd gladly admit if it was, because I did go about it wrong. This other anon started going after the wordiness, and the thread was out of my hands. Must have been him.I conceded many points, but no one really got to the heart of the question.I understand even most X-men fans aren't going to remember that much, so I apologize. Next I make such a thread, I will make sure to provide examples.
I can't wait to be hearing shartyspeak in real lifeThat surely will finally make me commit suicide
>>152938896whats shartyspeak?
>>152900389It's probably tied to dyslexia or ADHD, being unable to follow panels, but there's also plenty of comic artists that are just really bad at telling a story sequentially (see most of the OG Image guys).
>>152936787You're mentally ill. Even if I don't see eye to eye with this anon I'm at least enjoying a conversation. You on the other hand are severely autistic and just come here to whine and shitpost. Chill out with your main character syndrome.>>152936351>He chose duty over her, not death.Same thing. His job was more important to him than her. And he didn't stake his life on the line for his duty, he gave his life away for his duty. Heh, duty.>From what I remember, she's angry at him leaving her out of making a big decisionNo, she's just mad because he was a sexist pig that didn't think she, a woman, could handle herself (see pic). As I said, him choosing "duty" over her is not something she she have easily forgiven, it's not macho bullshit, it's loving his petty quest more than loving her.>Jesse witnessed tons of brutality and bullshit at the behest of this God, not just some bad people.Such as? Need I remind you again, the only reason Tulip is still alive is because of God. And despite all the hardships in his life he still got his revenge, he had friends, his mother and the love of his life so his kamikaze plan for someone that's not even on the throne in Heaven is extremely petty.>but he's essentially a walking contradictionYou probably don't remember it well because it's been a long time since you read it but after Jesse falls out of the plane he does a 180 and is just an asshole, even seeing Jesse again he's not overjoyed that he's alive and even tries to punch him, that's the first time in over half a year he's seen his bro that he thought was dead.He's a walking contradiction in that he is not consistently written but that's just Ennis writing in general, and his drug problem feels tacked on and not properly shown, he goes from full cock sucking junkie to everything under control way too much, that's not how it works.
>recaps the basic plot beats>parrots the popular opinion>explains the wiki notes on a character>wikipedia history everyone knows
>>152900389/co/ brags about reading issues in two minutes so of course non traditional layouts are going to confuse them.
>>152941036Who does that?
>>152940627Duty is macho bullshit. He told her nothing of his plan to get killed, and that's leaving her behind.The only reason Tulip died in front of Jesse was because of God. The broken pieces left of his life do not trump everything he lost or saw others lose. I remember Cassidy takes a while to get at Tulip, because he wants her, he's wanted her way before Jesse died. He's lost friends before. He's spent his long life wrestling his bad side and eventually succumbs, like a junky sobers up only to do it again after a while. Cassidy isn't thrilled at Jesse's return because of what he did to Tulip, knowing Jesse would not be okay with that.
Most comic artists write about what they hate, which causes a lot of comics to be about subjects they don't understand and don't want to understand. Pick a comic with serious subject; Does the writer discuss the ideas the comic handles, or are they just shitting on them? On most cases, they're just shitting on them.The best comics are licensed IPs that restrict the artists to not discuss their hates, but to attempt to be passioned about the IP to promote it. Most comics do not know how to be mature, and overwhelmingly write about sexual relationships. Children's comics are honestly better written than what is considered adult.
>>152942859>Duty is macho bullshitDon't ignore my point, the point is that he chose death over a life with her and I just posted the page where she outright just says she's mad that he didn't trust her to have his back because she's a woman. Saying duty is macho bullshit is irrelevant because that's not what she should be angry about, chauvinism and macho bullshit matters more than making the decision to kamikaze? Come on now. And really, hoe can she forgive him? He made his choice.>The only reason Tulip died in front of Jesse was because of GodElaborate. She was killed by Jesse's fucked up family and God brought her back to life. No matter how you look at it Jesse owes him.
>>152943036>Most comic artists write about what they hate,But why do they do that? In Grorious Nippon they do the exact opposite and tells stories about stuff they're deeply passionate about. And when you get a western comic that's somebody's passion project, it shows.
>>152943135Wish we had more of that.
>>152943135>And when you get a western comic that's somebody's passion project, it shows.Does it though? Does it really?
>>152943881Yes. See for example>Stan Sakai's feudal Japan autism in Usagi Yojimbo>the dinosaur autism of Steve Bissette in Tyrant (kickstarter still going btw)>Dave Stevens' love for the 1930s in The Rocketeer
>>152939714https://anythingtranslate.com/translators/sharty-speak-translator/https://basedjakwiki.org/Basedspeak
>>152944012>https://anythingtranslate.com/translators/sharty-speak-translator/We reached beyond terminal levels of mental illness
>>152944012I'm not clicking on that.
>>152943944None of those are great.
>>152943881Watchmen, The Dark Knight Returns, and Maus were all passion projects, and they made waves in Western comics.
>>152899189>taking a shartynigger seriouslyStopped reading there (didn't read at all)
>>152944147And it'll keep getting worse.
>>152943054He chose to see this task through, this task they were both embroiled in, without her contribution. You want her to behave like the woman she isn't by having her be upset at him for not choosing "a life with her".Tulip was killed by Jesse's family because he gave them protection against The Word.
>>152899570This. I think youtubers are not liking comics these days because so much of them are terrible. We are at a point where there might be a good comic out once every two years or so and it's going to be an obscure indie title that you won't hear about. The comics they liked or the ones worth reviewing were all 40 years ago.
>>152899201FPBP
>>152899506>yet the numbers keeps growing
>>152946553No
>>152944012Why does this garbage existIt serves literally zero purpose apart of being braindead
>>152948509Just to make you miserable. Ignore them.
>>152944454You've never read any of them, you larping faggot.
How have sales of Invincible been since the show started? Since the cartoon is more or less a direct adaptation minus a few changes, it comes across as a similar trajectory as a lot of manga to anime adaptations. It's clear that the cartoon is doing well, but comics have always done better once adapted to cartoons, I'm curious if the more narratively linear story that you can pick from issue one is attracting people like it does for manga.
>>152899215thats because you let the parasites in
>>152949852It's because we share a board with cartroons.
>>152948509because it's """""""""""""""""""""""""""funny""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>152944012Same >>152944206Could you give examples?
>>152952051no
Aw.
>>152900580gaijins really love retarded cherry-picking, don't theyboth DB and shinchan are an extreamly rare case
>>152953476Nope they are the norm Devil Man, Astro boy Saint Seya, Kinnikuman, Naruto and plenty of other popular series have spin offs, sequels or retellings made by different authors. Heck the One Piece Novel A which later drawn by Boichi wasn't written by Ida but is canon.
Nobody likes comics. If they did, they would sell.>BUT I LIKE THEMYes, you're a nobody.
>>152949852Or its because capeshit keeps digging despite being in the bottom.
>>152953815Well DC looks to be digging up with Absolute Batman and Absolute Martian Manhunter
>>152949133Get some taste, you loser.
>>152899215Sad!
>>152953657Modern Comics are SHITbut old comics are Good Shit
>>152956449The redpill is that the old ones are shit too.
>>152956891Most of them, but there was a handful of good stuff. Now, there's nothing.
>>152957808Sad reality.
>>152953976You're only proving you never read any of them, rageslopper
>>152949797Slightly better, I think.
