This relaunch has been ass.
Im enjoying it
It's not my particular flavor of Batman (pulp crime detective is mine), but it's fine for what it is.
>>152926055>This relaunch has been ass and tits.ftfy
it’s okay but obviously suffering from having to be published in the shadow of Absolute.
>>152926055It sucks
>>152926055Makes me miss Scott Snyder.
>>152926055I don’t get why Batman is such a hard concept for modern writers to write. Just have him fight over-the-top colorful gangsters and villains.BTAS got this shit down to a science and modern Writers still can’t figure it fucking out.
All you people do is fucking whine
>>152927348Welcome to /co/ newfag
>>152926055>>152926137>>152927288 noir Batman sucks, it had 30 years, it's doneThey need to return to more of a Gothic overman battling against existential cosmic horror manifested through costumed goons and superpowered scientistsBatman by way of Twin PeaksFraction fails because his shit is too Adam West and fem-centric
>>152926055I've only read the joker episode, but it was kind of stupid as fuck.>Okay Batman, you can go see the Joker now, but just know, we have crazy insane mad scientist level traps in place so if you even walk on the wrong floor tile, you'll fucking die.>But some random janitor can totally get in there and talk to the joker in secret.That's fucking stupid.
>>152927009it's thisall the mainline books could be good but it'd never be known since absolute is just shitting on everything, and batman is the #1 on that line so the gap looks even bigger for this
>>152926055It’s very odd how it’s supposed to be the flagship book yet it’s so low key and episodic to a point you can barely even remember what the book is even doing. It’s consistently being outshined by other Bat-titles.
>>152926055The problem is this shit is clearly being written for the trade. The pacing is glacial and individual issues end up feeling forgettable because of this.Fuck writing for the trade
>>152928290Problem is that its lame as fuckThey could kill tim drake and his gay buttbuddy but it wouldnt make it less lameI dont care for 3 sentence long gadget descriptions in the middle of a fightAi/ghost/schizo alfrend is boringLove interest #2384 isnt gonna be used and looks mid despite sex hairSuit is lame and uninspiring and unmasking to gain trust of brain damaged killer croc is fucking stupid Dc editiorial is schemeing how to give batman some of that absolute rub without being too obviousBut atleast that pontiac in issue 4 was nicely drawn so artist can trace 3d modelsAlso what >>152927594 said
>>152926055I'm fine with it cause I remember the infernal shitpile that was Zdarsky's run and this is miles better.
>>152926948That sexy doctor is the only enjoyable part of Fraction's run even though she is a moron and may be heading to be Harley 3.
>>152926055blame DC mandate and crossovers, and writers that are tryhards.
>>152926055Batman needs to return back to basics.Give him his mansion, company, and butler back.
>>152931374Won't happen unless "billionaires bad" cools down.
>>152931374>Give him his mansion, company, and butler back.based. This is essential batman stuff
>>152926055I defended that shit during the first couple of issues where it portrayed cops as being pigs and had a bunch of fake boomers shitting their pants in protest but yeah, it is terrible. Even worse than the writing is the art. Bad enough they relaunched the title with the same main guy they have had for the past several years but it is also painfully obvious he needs a break. Very rushed and unpolished visuals, fight scenes especially are a damn mess. Pissed me off how they basically wrote Drake out of the Bat-comics in general because he needs to focus on being fag 24/7. New villains feel like a ripoff of the Court of Owls, plot tries to be whimsical but instead comes across as colorful vomit, dialogue is cringe milennial shit....Fraction could have been decent as a Red Hood writer desu but no, they had to waste that series by giving it to the freakazoid just so the tranny editor could feel validated. >pic unrelated
>>152926948Nothing compared to Tynions run, he nerfed his own art for whatever reason
>>152930262It's shame she's not a good love interest (at least for Bruce) but she's great to look at. Even the footfags got some service.
I mean when was the last time batman wasn't ass?
>>152932536Mm maybe when tomasi was on batman and robin, first scott snyder bamtna issues in 2011, and gran morrison Batman inc volume 2.But you mean batman main titles (Detective comics and batman) or bamtman books in general?If it is the second then it was batman reborn era, just after batman rip storytarc.
>>152932523Zeller is a total babe, but making an OC love interest for Batman is a waste of time. She would just get forgotten or killed by the next writer in favor of another pointless series of hookups with Catwoman.
>>152932634I'm fine with temporary love interests. Yes we know they never work out but they can be eye candy and serve some purpose in the story. It's only a problem when a writer thinks they're creating "the one."
>>152926055rude
>>152927436>Batman by way of Twin PeaksWhen did this happen?
>>152926055Why would you read this?Stop falling for shit.
>>152937881...no
>>152927436>fem-centric
>>152936407There's definitely been stories that play on the idea of Gotham being cursed by ancient, demonic evil and that's why it's so fucked up (Dark Knight Dark City, Morrison's original Arkham Asylum graphic novel, etc), but I think that anon is just spitballing an idea.
>>152931374Sure, right after they make him black and trans
>>152927348Let me guess, your favorite run was Tom Kings
>>152939314gotham being cursed was always fucking stupid. It was a regular big metropolis that declined with the Waynes' murder being the major turning point. The magic stuff is just more meta issues creeping into the narrative to explain why capeshit doesn't and can't make progress
>>152939479>The magic stuff is just more meta issues creeping into the narrative to explain why capeshit doesn't and can't make progressI think there's a cool story that could be told where Batman slays the demon that's been corrupting Gotham for centuries, otherwise I agree, metatext stuff being taken seriously is retarded and has ruined Batman more than most characters. Joker being presumed dead at the end of his major stories was a better way to handle him than being carted off to Arkham only to break out again every time.
>>152939566The meta-narrative is what it is, but having to scale back and pretend like Batman is a staunchly grounded detective series, expanding beyond those bounds then scaling back in a failed attempt to "course correct" is much more damaging. But sure, let's agree to disagree.
>>152926055There was a relaunch? Nothing changed.
>>152941447Sales figures for the title, I would imagine
>>152939479The Wayne's weren't philanthropists in the Golden Age, they didn't even have a megacorp. All that shit happened in the 70sOG Batman is a guy who uses his dad's doctor weatlh to battle vampires and mad scientists and bird themed monopoly men
