I feel like she only wants Duane to prove to her friends that she isn't a Schizo
Website comment:>Both their takes on Litriya are technically right. Yes, its construct facilities were being used for military purposes, but it was sufficiently shielded to prevent attack, a shield which Duane, in his self-righteousness, undid. And it was his countrymen that did all the destruction - though Duane point out that the oppressed lizard population had a (two-fingered) hand in it too.>Wednesday’s page will probably go up on actual Wednesday, during the day. My ISP is installing new stuff overnight on Tuesday and warned I probably won’t have internet. Just a heads up, I’m not dead!>~AshleyPatreon comment:>Mr Giz is not impressed. In fact how interesting it would be to operate a plod at range like this, interacting with state enemies and trying to convince them you're some kind of war machine in order to lead them astray.>But yes, Duane's voicebox is not bespoke, he bought it and installed it. His lung is a single pig's bladder (common to use these in olden days for various purposes), and then we already know his pretty, pretty eyes~
>>152926607>>152926637Reminds me a bit of Woodrue's dissection of the Swamp Thing.
>>152926607Say the line Duane!
Sharteshanian supremacy remains indisputable
>>152926607Like how the sharte can't see the obvious practical benefits to a plod that only needs fake eyes and an off the shelf voice box. Hell, as a weapon this one doesn't even need that, what with the tacit casting.Meanwhile, everything else is easily scavenged "in the field." Why waste good first materials on fake arms and legs when you can just plug body parts in? Very efficient.
Sad to see Nora get so much hate she's probably my favorite character so far
>>152926850eh, everyone here hates lemon and i think he's the funniest dude in the whole story. c'est la vie
mmmm rape is good
>>152926850Oh I don't hate her, it's just fun to talk shit. Speaking of, Nora's so lucky she got the "post berserker rampage nut clarity Duane" to banter with. He's both still in the sauce enough to give her someone to actually fight against, but enlightened enough now to be more subdued about it and not constantly spouting tedious racism and sexism (though he is no doubt still racist and sexist, but he's got bigger fish to fry). The perfect dance partner.Cope has a tendency to "keep it real" when it comes to have characters in universe feel about Duane (versus the worship the audience gives him, so perhaps this is an intentional counter balance), but I wonder if there's anything Nora actually admires/appreciates about Duane the Human Being. Man's a good draftsman and solid wright, and she's read (and critiqued) his diary full of the poetry of a soul trapped in decay. I think we know Bastion who respects Duane's skill, but otherwise Cope's been pretty consistent about saying, and writing that, most of the cast does not find enough in him to bother with over his many failings. Save Sette of course, but she doesn't count.
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>>152927024I'm never getting my long-awaited Rice Boy PDF am I>inb4 its free to read onlineThat is not the point.
>>152926978That's pretty much been a reoccurring theme throughout the whole story. Skills as a wright and the fact that he is supposed to be a walking impossibility in his current state aside to the world at large Duane was just some fucking guy full of his own bullshit and his new perspective as a zombie-ghost-man has only just barely bought him any kind of clarity, clarity that he is all too willing to ignore when old and convenient hatreds rear their heads. Shit, just as she pointed out, his Death, the defining moment of his un-life held no real importance, he was just a fucking sucker
>>152926607Get outta them neckmeats, Professor Jizz!
>>152927174By the gods, he's going to poke around in someone's meats, and Nora doesn't seem interested.
>>152927024>tiddy porn figure held up in Japan, and cost an extra hundred burgerbucks because of illegal tariff bullshit>now my gorn webcomic books held up because of a pointless war in the Middle EastSave anime my ass. Jab Beadman wouldn't have allowed this, that man is a man of business!
What's with all the Duane torture?
>>152927394I'm sure she did it enough to grow bored with it, at least for now. She got him a pretty new mouth, time to pick his brain for awhile. Maybe she can fuck his throat backwards tomorrow.
>>152927024>>152927656That orange goyslave really ruined everything
>>152927769Huh? This one?
>>152927907Might as well be
>>152926850>she's probably my favorite character
>>152926637Feels like we’re skipping over the shrine’s shield being torture-based.
>>152928003Waterwomen aren't people, who cares what happens to them. Just like Alds.
>>152928003Erm is a psychopath.
>>152928016just feels not EXACTLY balanced, even in their imaginations, to show Duane marching in with Aldish soldiers who he literally fought against once he understood they would attack the girls, vs. Nora doing *her actual plan* but with the fictional addition of some evil laughing. There's a difference of elaborative degree.is turning off a torture-based magic shield is exactly equivalent to designing and implementing one?>in his self-righteousness he stopped the torture of sentient beingsohno! what a bastard!
>>152928003"Torture" is an Aldie spook.
>>152928153Stirner? What are you doing here in the fictional continent of Kasslyne?
>>152928088You're right that narratively it feels a little off, but in-universe Duane's treatment of senets (and lizards) is a big exception not a rule. Remember that the Gefendur basically genocided most of the senet population and Sette straight up likens waterwomen to pests when they first get introduced
>>152926607ah yes, the classic "no u" strategy
>>152927024As if the shipping prices weren't already bad enough
>>152926978If anything I think his diary probably killed any chance of her ever liking anything about him.
>>152928527His diary made her want to torture him with her evil, smelly vagina full of cobwebs
>>152928629>
>>152926978>duane>racistXenophobic at worst, there's a difference. He's a rainbow committee who will go on a rant about how diversity is alderode is strength, but will gladly nuke Cresce for all their aggression on his country.
>"To torture! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems."Crescian Chief Engineer, Nora Pris.
>>152929003I think all Alds are minimum a little racist in their approach to their own different castes, but it's fine because all Crescians are definitely racist about the Aldish castes too
>>152926850She's a shitty person convinced she's right. A good character, a bad human being.
>>152926978>Save Sette of course, but she doesn't count.The only reason everyone in this room isn't spending their last hours bursting their throats from screaming in agony before the great reset is because of Sette and Duane.
>>152926607If she'd never located a weapons lab underneath the Shrine in the first place, ti could never have been a target for Aldish aggression, because it wouldn't have worked for the political purpose the conspiracy was plotting.
>>152929261Yeah but what have they done for us lately?
>>152929268I still don't really understand why the lab was located under the shrine. General Bell wanted to use it to stir up anti-Sonorie sentiment after it was raided, but did Sonorie essentially also want to cause the public outcry? This was prob addressed in the comic but it's been a while and I forgot.Regardless we should acknowledge part of Nora wanting to blame Duane for the destruction of the shrine is wanting to absolve her own guilt over it. And vice versa.
I'll figure out the joke here eventually
>>152929301wrong thread?
>>152929372Some of us have catholic tastes anon.
>>152929390no, like I literally don't get why you'd post about some manga with torture just because there's torture in the page and say "I'll get the joke"are you mentally challenged
>>152929446Yes.
>>152929482Understandable, have a nice day
>>152929446embarrassing
>>152929247Duane was literally the least racist man in Alderode and even stood up for twin-eaters if they were Aldish, although everyone but Leysa considered it naivety or stupidity.
>>152928088>Duane marching in with Aldish soldiers who he literally fought against once he understood they would attack the girlsWhile it's true he did that, let's not undersell what a MASSIVE misjudgement it was to trust them in the first place. Duane's blind spot for how cruel and vicious his fellow Alds can be may come from a better place than Nora's amorality, but it's done just as much damage.>>152929287I'm pretty sure it was just supposed to be a secret lab. She might also have been trying to keep it away from Bell, which would also mean hiding it from the military.
>>152929287It was originally a civilian facility for plod construction. It was shuttered and obsolete, but Sonorie re-opened it secretly to have a lab for her projects that Bell would not know about. How he found out, we still don't know. Presumably there is or was a mole in Sonorie's clique, but they never got brought up. It might have been no more complex than acknowledging logistics shipments, though.
>>152926709If "vegetable fibers" can't let oxygen through, how do plants breathe then?
>>152929268I meant she doesn't count as an example of someone who finds Duane tolerable enough to put up with cause she's head over heels for him, so it's not the best example.
>>152929858>How he found out, we still don't know.We do, actually.
I've had the most relentless crush on duane.
>>152930681One must never forget bell.>>152930705Get in line you slut.
I wish I could recommend this to my friends sometimes.
>>152931130you could if you werent a coward
>>152931163I mean, I do, but they never read it.
>>152931174mine neitherwe just have to keep trying
I honestly don't know how anyone can give a shit about what happens in this comic. We've done this story like fifty times so far, how the hell do you care.
>>152931528>We've done this story like fifty times so farWhich one would that be?
>>152931570>Even Crescians respect the rules of warrare moment of an Ald making Crescians look better than they actually are
>>152931570We now know that that's not true.
>>152929446The manga is actually really mild, they "torture" the princess by giving her treats and such.Nora does seem to have it as her go-to problem solving technique. Hate to be her underling...
>>152933081though to be fair to Nora she didn't see him bitchslap Ricker and his merry band, so as far as she's concerned he was leading them
>>152933081looks like the most absolute garbage imaginable
>>152931578Duane would send Mike and Jay to the mines.
>>152933936Anon, they were, quite literally, down there in the mines together.
>>152934240That's right Jay.
>>152931678yeah, but it's not like a War Jury would convict them for using zombies to stop the body horror rape brigade
>>152926637>but it was sufficiently shielded to prevent attack,What the fuck Cope this is not nearly enough justification for putting a military's installation under a church actual WHAT THE FUCK
>>152931666>>Even Crescians respect the rules of warAnd then they broke the rules of war without seemingly any repercussion from the rest of the continent when she used plods for war
>>152935498The usual reason to put military bases around such things is to make use of them as a shield. Like setting up AA guns on hospitals. What happened this time was it was actually a black ops, shadow facility. It was never supposed to be targeted, and "properly shielded" meant there was no way it was ever actually going to be targeted.Unless the torment nexus got turned off. And it's worth mentioning that was a jury rigged defense anyway. They also put AA guns on top, so it's not like they were trying to keep things totally above board either.I think what Cope is getting at is the base was not meant to be a target to begin with, and even not putting that aside, it was going to be completely defended practically so the thorny moral outcome of making a shrine with kids a military target was going to be avoided, except Duane decided to open it up because it was powered by torturing mermaids. (To be fair, the two agents that had come in were all for it too, though this was before they realized why it was up, and we never got a look at what they would've chosen had they known.
>>152935641What continent? Lmao shartes literally don't know what law or rules is.
>>152935641Cope's just keeping it real.
>>152935641I think the upholding of the use of plods in war was more a matter of lacking the technology than true intent not to use them desu.At this point the continental cold war is literally Cresce + every other country vs. Alderode, with Sharteshane over on the sidelines selling weapons to both and wishing everyone could be more sensible. There's no realistic backlash Cresce would suffer to using plods for attack, but they probably lacked the tech to efficiently use them, control them and minimise collateral damage until the black tongues agreed to work with them.Part of the reason Bastion's experiment even went off and the BTs did align with Cresce is probably because Duane and Lemuel proved effective hunters of Black Tongues within Alderode. You could do one of those domino memes starting with 'Duane Adelier fucks a Silver' and ending in 'Alderode collapses in civil war'.
>>152935692That's still not justified you can't just put your army HQ right under a school > so the thorny moral outcome of making a shrine with kids a military target was going to be avoided,but it's not, this is retarded
>>152935705>What continent?There's more to the world than Alds Shartes and Creasians>>152935815>I think the upholding of the use of plods in war was more a matter of lacking the technology than true intent not to use them desu.There is still a treaty they signed onto banning it>ut they probably lacked the tech to efficiently use them, control them and minimise collateral damage until the black tongues agreed to work with them.Once again they broke the agreement they signed on about not using them in war
>>152935875Yeah I'm not trying to justify them breaking their own treaty, I'm just saying I think they signed that treaty mostly because it was something they couldn't practically do at the time. I'm no Cresce defender, anon.
>>152935875We know about the big three and and a bunch of psychotic isolationist shartes. Lesser cunts may nod and smile at laws n shiet if even that.
>>152935875I can't read Knobbytop without hearing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgPITdW3lRA&list=RDAgPITdW3lRA in my head>Good Old Knobbytop, Knobbytop Ulestry
>>152933081retarded
>>152928088Duane should understand the stakes of why the shield was needed at that time, imagining her as being sadistic is petty and thick. It likely wasn't any of the scientists choice to be under the shrine they were working with what they had under the circumstances provided which is a something soldier like him would typically respect. Water women can negate lasting damage, or even death, a hell of a lot easier than a human. Nora has every right to believe that interpretation of events based on the info provided so far. Alds are puppets of their country, one way or another they do its bidding.Over all yes I agree he is pretty self righteous
>>152938497IIRC Lems raiding party decided on attacking the shrine after finding it had extra construct guards that shouldn't have been there, and reinforced by the sudden appearance of a storm that lasted far than it should of to defend the place. The shrine was already under siege, running low on food, and was basically depending on someone coming by to check on why the Twin wasn't sent down, and likely by the reinforcement for those guys after the first wave or two got murked by Lems command. Thats also ignoring both Duane and Nora are probably still ignorant of Keon breaking in to slaughter all the scientists and take their notes back to Bell literally as the attack started.Its highly likely that if Duane was happily doing the play as planned that the scientists would have been slaughtered, the waterwomen released to stop the storm, and the shine attacked anyway. So its easy to sympathize with Duane here over the casual torture enthusiast necrosecting him.
>>152938829Casual torture enthusiast? This guy has several unrelated human limbs of unknown origin hanging off him and thats not even the worst of his torture/adjacent associations. There is no reason for this character to have any sympathy for Duane at this point
>>152939653Human limbs from where? Are you implying that death itself is a crime? Who would be capable of committing such a crime if it were possible? And who would be capable of holding those four whos accountable for their crimes?
Disgusting that these two characters would have their own biases and form their opinions based on what they knowDropping the comic next page if they don't make up and suddenly develop omniscience so they know what the audience knows
>>152939786I agree, what's the point of giving him the face if they aren't going to- oh you said make up
My issue is Cope's cope that somehow it's ever justified to put military installations under civilian places as if there actually is a balance here when there isn't.
>>152939874its almost like the Queen of Crease is a bit of a monsterIt probably would have been a scandal if anyone but Emil 'Accepted a farm as a bribe to cover up child killing war crimes for a despotic Queen' Sava and his homewrecking hussy of a lieutenant (who got a captaincy to keep quiet herself) lived through it
>>152939874What do you mean? That whole storyline was basically one "The queen is doing terrible shit even if she thinks she's taking the least bad path" example getting hammered home after another. Don't take fucking Nora as the author mouthpiece lmao. The shield she's berating Duane for disabling was powered by infant torture.
>>152935848I might be playing the devil's advocate too much right now, sorry.Obviously, in a moral sense it's never justified. Clearly. But from Nora's perspective, and from our perfect perspective as the audience, it's clear in this specific instance Duane's gallivanting around playing hero is the final action that allowed the Doom to come. Hetr and his goons, once they were in, were never going to do anything that endangered the shrine itself. Emil and Tela were also on their way, well ahead of them.Anyway, the point of this all is really that there's a chain of immorality here, and no one is pure. Both Duane and Nora doing what they could to try and salvage the world they could see.
>>152939981It's not what Nora said on page but this bit of the website comment:>Both their takes on Litriya are technically right. Yes, its construct facilities were being used for military purposes, but it was sufficiently shielded to prevent attackThat's cope.
>>152939981Anon is reacting to Cope's poorly chosen words here >>152926637, where Cope basically sounded like she was declaring that, despite how fucked setting up a base here was, nothing bad was actually going to come of it until Duane meddled.
>>152939946>>152939981I'm not talking about what is said in comic I'm talking about what the real living author said on the update page
>>152939993>>152940007OhThat's just a literal true statementDuane feels guilty as shit because he is directly if not morally responsible for a bunch of kids getting murdered by his countrymen and Nora wants her fingers in that wound. Pulling the trolley lever might be perfect moral calculus but good luck sleeping after watching the one dude you condemned to death get eviscerated by the wheels.
I think the audience for this comic is generally refreshingly capable of actually reading the comic and understanding that characters have imperfect biased perspectives that don't necessarily represent the author's views but some of you completely shut your brain off whenever literally any character disagrees with Duane.
>>152940019It's not a simple factual statement due to the but.>its construct facilities were being used for military purposes and it was sufficiently shielded to prevent attack.That's a factual statement.> its construct facilities were being used for military purposes, but it was sufficiently shielded to prevent attackThat is using the latter factual statement to justify the former factual statement making it an argument.>and Nora wants her fingers in that woundNora doesn't know that he feels guilty because his journal does not have his thoughts about the attack.
>>152940057I think it's more a matter of trust. Trust, that is, in the writer. Remember this particular divergences was triggered mainly by this post >>152935498 where anon took umbrage with how Cope put it. We're in a severe lull of trust in our fellow humans these days. I see something like that and go "I get what she was going for and trust that obviously she did not mean the worst possible interpretation of that sentence."Other anons do not.
>>152940085>Nora doesn't know that he feels guilty because his journal does not have his thoughts about the attack.You really don't think she could figure that out after having read the entire rest of the journal?She just goes >Dang, the last three pages are blank, I guess we'll never know>butYes but. The kids probably wouldn't have died if Duane wasn't there, they were sufficiently shielded to prevent attack, but for Duane disabling the shield. They also wouldn't have died if the queen hadn't put the construct facility under them, that's why we (theoretically) don't do that kind of thing any more irl, but Duane still pulled the lever that killed the guy on the track and no amount of arguing about the nature of moral responsibility will change that.
>>152940019Alderode also have a culture of using child soldiers which Duane has led personally. How seriously offensive does he ultimately take Cresce using kids as part of a cover for military facility, is it just an excuse to get back at Nora?
>>152940184Not "just," Duane is a huge hypocrite when it comes to Alderode, but it's probably part of it.He'd probably say something like they were honorable soldiers serving their country as their caste befits, who fought head on and approached their deaths bravely, as opposed to sheltered civilians who have no way to defend themselves and should have been safely kept away from the horrors of war if the bitch queen hadn't used them as human shields for her research and it would only be 50% bullshit
It's kind of interesting how both Duane and Nora were naïve about this.Nora that it's fine to put military installations under civilians ones if you have a strong enough defense system. As if defense systems can never fail.Duane that the Alds wouldn't loot and pillage and go straight for the military installation after he shut down the defense system.Duane now wouldn't have done that or done so differently to prevent that outcome. But if Nora knew what fate the shrine faced, would she opt to have the facility elsewhere away from civilians or would she value the results she got more?
>>152940184>>152940196Duane would only be a hypocrite in this case if he was objecting to Cresce using child soldiers while justifying Alderode's child soldiers due to caste bullshit.Also the children were girls not boys. Ssaelists would object to little girls being involved in warfare. Maybe his reaction would have been less if the shrine had boys instead.
>>152940229Imagine being a twin boy sneaking out to fight in the war then returning home to get yourself ate, I bet that's a common kids story parents tell to their kids to teach them a moral lesson
>>152940235>sneak out to fight>manage to pull off some heroics>even get a medal>go home>everyone is pissed at you>your twin hates you for almost making him a disgraced twin>get eatenProbably a tale a Ssaelist came up with as an anti-twin eating thing.
>>152940207>defense systemWhat a nice phrase to describe the torture of the water women. Spiderpaws were a mistake.
>>152935641Well they didn't get caught now did they? The only witnesses were the alds that died or got captured and the crows conveniently flew away leaving behind nothing but plain old corpses.
>>152940207>But if Nora knew what fate the shrine faced, would she opt to have the facility elsewhereSonorie knew what she was doing. She basically sacrificed the shrine herself betting that Alderode/Geffindur would shy away from involving the kidsLem's squad was Ssaelit for a reason
>>152942239It's a pretty typical Sonorie move; do an underhanded thing to avoid violence (no one would expect a military lab under a shrine!), and then oops, it caused exponentially more violence than if she'd just done things openly.
>>152940991When discussing the ethicality of setting up a military factory under a shrine you need to set that point aside since that wouldn't be problem for the vast majority in-universe.
>>152940293Twist the wording a bit, make everyone worried instead of pissed, and now its an inspiring story about how YOU, the hamburger twin, actually matter to history beyond your great sacrifice, and will stand there with the Gods as their sword and shield.
>>152940293>sneak out to fight>manage to pull off some heroics>even get a medal>go home>everyone is pissed at you>your twin hates you for almost making him a disgraced twin>watch them get eaten>use experience to guilt trip your future twin wards into not sneaking outDoes it make a difference which twin sneaks out?
>>152938497The waterwomen in Nora's device suffered so badly they literally begged for death rather than try to regenerate. Maybe don't make a torture shield if you don't want someone to turn it off.
>>152940057I can think Duane is a delusional little self-righteous patriarchal fascist freak and think putting your military lab under a shrine full of children as "protection" is fucking retarded too, thank you very much.
>>152941881>Well they didn't get caught now did they?They did in fact it's brought up once
>>152930681Oh huh, you're right, I'd forgotten the poor roasted dude. I thought Bell was acting on slightly more detailed intelligence than that.
>>152935641There may or may not be fallout from that. >>152931570This is interesting to me because it implies a framework of mutually-acknowledged and generally-respected norms for conflict between major powers. We know those rules don't protect prisoners much, for example.
>>152938497>imagining her as being sadistic is petty and thickMaybe it was all the torture of senet beasts in an illegal weapons factory under a temple that gave him that idea.
>>152939981The lesson Sonorie got from it, too, was "I'm not being proactive ENOUGH." That could end in blood and tears.
>>152942496It does not seem typical in this setting to base military installations in temples, judging by how Lemuel says the PR coup will be "Sonorie endangered these children," which implies that the Crescian public would read the attack as being the result of the lab being there. Which it was, just not for the reasons plebs would assume or Duane wanted to convince himself.It wouldn't be surprising if churches are explicitly off-limits. Wounded are off-limits, and dirt-tier enlisted soldiers are far less sacrosanct than holy people.
>>152926607I wonder if these corpse fondlers realize Duane is insulting them by not even bothering to engage with them. Like they aren't worth the air from his pig bladder, he'd rather talk to his jailer, even though he clearly dislikes her.
>>152946534To be clear, I'm referring to the torture of waterwomen being part of a defense system as what most people in-universe wouldn't have a problem with.
>>152926607That ask revealing that waterbabies helped Duane during his first, worst year does help to further explain why his reaction to senet torture was so emotional (besides his usual sensibilities). And just how many fucking senets is this guy going to be friend, fuck, or fangasm over?
>>152946593I dunno, if we're to take Elka and Emil as "salt of the earth" common reactions, then while they might not stop it they clearly have a problem with it.
I for one think Nora should start singing.
>>152947038Perhaps she and Duane can find common ground over their enjoyment of theater?
>>152947038do you think that would make it easier to get intel out of Duane
>>152946594>And just how many fucking senets is this guy going to be friend, fuck, or fangasm over?He's yet to meet Ruck personally I suppose...
>>152928490works on comics but in real life don't
until next time
Brawny leg is rather taken by Nora
Site comment:>Struck a nerve~Patreon comment:>I think everyone figured this out long ago but Duane just clued into it. Nora used to be much more kawaii and bright-eyed.Mr Giz still thinks she's cute though :3
>>152944622Exactly, because that isn't so taboo for them. They die all the time and then they come back from it and just keep existing. Humans cant do that
>>152951568Look how fucking happy Dwayne is. He's gonna make it.
>>152951568Looks like Doctor Jizz is committing an act of his namesake.
>>152951568Why am I just now realizing this is the same person? I really did think she was cute back then. She said shit like "GOLLY" and was a huge fujo. What 20 minutes near alds does to a person.
>>152951605>>Struck a nerve~'Bout time too. Prissy little bitch's been getting too many shots in.
>>152951568Nora found literally the one Ald who>1. is a Soud and thus not actually one of Alderode's pod peoplebut>2. is such a nationalist he'll still defend it anywayThough it's been a tough time for Duane. He's might have some deep thoughts about the nature of the curse and its effect on his people. And maybe Nora's in enough of a bad mood to dangle what the curse is gonna mean for Alderode very shortly.
>>152951568Funny how she was trying so hard to ragebait Duane here and it didn't work and then Duane gets her to lose her cool like this a moment later. Unless I'm misreading things it doesn't look like Duane was even trying too.
>>152952609>it doesn't look like Duane was even trying too.Oh he definitely was
>>152952636She's spent the last god knows how long torturing his soul, of course he's going to try and fuck with her
>>152952004>Why am I just now realizing this is the same person?I don't know, I re-read that part yesterday and it was almost spelled out
>>152951568Fascinating how Nora has interacted with Alderode's least racist, kindest, progressive to the point of rebellion, sons are and ended up with this attitude. Yeah Nora can't admit she caught some trauma from the Foi-Hellick affair and has been allowing it to spin her wheels all of these years. Poor Roger, man. What a fucking insult to all he sacrificed to change his nation.
>>152954367Don't forget, even Alderode's kindest son admitted to Quigley that he, too, would have sold his wife out to the state if she'd ever turned traitor. Duane's good traits have always been filtered through his fanatical devotion to his country.That said, it's not like Nora has ever had a chance to see Duane's positive traits. During their first meeting he was just an enemy soldier, and on their second meeting he sabotaged her defenses (however immoral they may have been) so that the alds she was keeping at bay could rape and napalm the shrine. She doesn't have much reason to be charitable towards him.
>>152954367I would not say Duane is Alderode's least racist kindest soul lmao. He is unusually tolerant for someone in his positon but even he was ground under the wheels eventually, and he still has many, many prejudices not the least of which is sexism.>>152954606That's such an amazing moment for both Duane and Quigley. That and Duane pleading with Lemuel to see Leysa and Simon live rent free in my head.
>>152955059>That's such an amazing moment for both Duane and Quigley.It was great, fucker baited a confrontation then got the emotional equivalent of a suicide bombing
>>152954606>Don't forget, even Alderode's kindest son admitted to Quigley that he, too, would have sold his wife out to the state if she'd ever turned traitor.And that he's also join in with the systemic rape if ordered. I wonder if he'll finally have his epiphany in this part or will he retreat back into denial
>>152954606>>152955059>I would not say Duane is Alderode's least racist kindest soul lmao.That Anon's talking about Roger Foi-Hellick and co., not Duane.
>>152956377Oh, derp, that makes more sense. I guess I'm so used to all the Etelarcheposting that it didn't register when someone spoke that positively of Roger.That said, I'm not sure Nora interacted much with him outside that one mission. She definitely wasn't part of filleting his soul, that was all Ruck and the Black Tongues.
