WHERE'S KINGER.
>>152932947MOOOOOOOOOOOODS
>>152932961WERE-SNEEDER
>>152932947>im 13 btwSee you in 5 years. Try not to get groomed on reddit.
>>152932869"Right here."
>>152932869If he were up your ass eating a ham sandwich, you'd know.
>>152933883This meme image has entirely new meaning now that we know queenie is a black bitch
>>152932961what even was that
>>152933938is she actually canonically black? ewww
>>152932869caine be like
>>152934029>is she actually canonically black? ewwwUnderage b8 detected, ebony girls can be hot but you wouldnt know cuz yer balls havent dropped squirt
>>152933883>>152933938>>152934029Kinger is John Mcafee
>>152936578Wow i didnt know kinger was the most based thing alivehttps://youtu.be/bKgf5PaBzyg?si=mZFzoaRrMpWI5H2z
>>152932869shii where ma kingas at???
>>152932869I'm right behind you...aren't I? *neck snap*
So Caine really did hate Kinger in the end. Neat.
>>152932869The fact he's not in some bombastic pose creates part of the jarring emotion of the line delivery. That was well done.
>>152932869I think this is the only time he actually sounds properly authoritarian. Even his whole "since when were you in charge" comes off as more petty and pissy than anything else.
>>152932947>actually got deletedMan, back in the day we used to say "I'm 12 and what is this" and nothing happened because we understood the concept of jokes.
>>152937147dsfargeg
>>152937147>"I'm 12 and what is this" and nothing happened because we understood the concept of jokes.You can blame the government for that one.Unfortunately, the website has to be zero tolerance on any possible violations of US law. It looks really bad if the person pretending to joke about being a child starts carrying out an ERP session.
>>152932869YOU... YOU...YOU DOUBLE KINGER
>>152933883>says nigger>still has a literal black queen wifeHe's /ourguy/
>>152932869Some God you are. Can't you just snap your fingers and apparate him?
>>152937548How do you think he got his wife in the first place?
>I.....AM.... GOD!Literal creepypasta tier writing, who approved this line? "I am a god" would have been slightly better at least.
>>152937581it lost me on the creepy eyed analog thing with the sexy doll one
>>152937581>Literal creepypasta tier writing, who approved this line?Just because it's cringe that doesn't mean it isn't an accurate sentiment. Declaring yourself God is a tale as old as time. And it's appropriate since Caine is unambiguously a demiurge. Also, "I am a God" also doesn't really work because there isn't much of a pantheon to begin with.
>>152937472You'd fuck a cat but not a sheboon?
>>152937472please kill yourself
>>152937607Isn't there more than one AI? How doesn't that mean anything?
>>152937670>Isn't there more than one AI?As far as Caine is concerned?None superior to him. That's what's being emphasized.
>>152937682I guess. I still can't help but find it painfully corny.
>>152937687I'm with you on that, but it's probably hard, if not hypocritical, to be subtle about a god-complex.It's cringe because calling yourself god has always been cringe. It's always the hubris before the fall.
>>152937687>I still can't help but find it painfully corny.That's Caine for ya. Painfully corny.
How much did I really miss by not watching this series until this episode?
>>152937687it's very similar to the Jax "you are my playthings" thing- it is deliberately corny because it's over compensation
>>152937638It looks like the mod did.
>>152937581It feels in character for him to be cringy like that.
>>152937950A lot of fun speculation that mostly turned out to be completely wrong, mixed with about 10x amount of horny posting.Arguably, the only theory that's really stood out from the beginning that hasn't been disproven is soma theory.
>>152932869Rewatching episode one, one of the funniest jokes is just how Kinger tries to grab Zoobles head and loses his hands.
>>152938091The show's got good visual humor and gags.
>>152938097"Made with all the love I'm legally allowed to give"Bubble's the best
>>152937581Anon. He is Yaldabaoth. Yaldabaoth's entire business is proclaiming himself the one true and absolute God.The Digital Circus is the material realm. The digital plane is the kenoma. He maintains that they are one and the same and he is creator of all.It is basic fuck gnosticism.
>>152938026Zooble has no appreciation of the nullge
>>152932869>Doesn't just warp Kinger to him.
>>152938218Caine probably doesn't know where the circus members are at all times and can only snap when he does.
>>152936578is that the whalefucker or am i thinking of someone else
I love pomni's face here so much in response to "Who answers to who?"Pinnacle of "Oh my god, we are so fucked and I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner."
>>152932869Why didnt he jilust anap his fingers and summon him like he has demonstrated he can do many times. Its almost as of he sort of wanted to be put out of his misery.
>>152933938That is what Americans look like
>>152932869My first thoughts were>wow, he’s smarter than he looksBut deep down I knew we should’ve expected this.
>>152938463He's not omniscient in the sense that he sees everything all at once, he can only focus on one thing at a time, he has to mentally search through the circus to find Kinger.
>>152938218Wouldn't have given him the full picture since the monitor would've just stayed inside his pillow fort and losing the bucket probably would've made him too retarded to even try to lie to Caine's face like the others.
>>152938446Honestly all of their reactions were great. They were so convinced Caine would just stay happy-go-lucky forever, even though Zooble outright said the only thing saving them from his wrath was the fact that he liked them. As fucked up as it was to see Caine finally go full AM, it was also darkly rewarded to have all the fans on /co/ who were screaming at Zooble to stop being such a cunt towards Caine be validated.
>>152937581I wish he had said just like, "I AM THAT I AM!"
>>152938672Why couldn't they have just made a deal with Caine?>"Alright Caine, we'll go on this Adventure. Then when we come back, we're going to talk. Zooble will even give 100% effort. Deal?"I think that would've satisfied him.
>>152938827Caine was never interested in talking.
>>152938891He is if an Adventure is involved.I won't lie, I think I'd have fun in the Digital Circus. Those adventures do look pretty cool.
>>152937581>I... AM... GOD! That's right, the actual Judaic-Christian God, from...The Bible! And now I'm going to torture these helpless humans to stroke my own ego after having trapped them in a false reality! It's true, look it up!What did Gooseworx mean by this? I thought it was a bit out of nowhere.
>>152938923The adventures that literally reduced Ragatha into a carpet?
>>152938948That sounds more like something Satan would do (using vices and addiction to trap humans in a false reality).
>>152939002THE NAME IS YALDABAOTHIT'S GNOSTICISMHE THINKS HE IS GODHE MADE A WORLD OF SUFFERING
>>152939002>He's lacking in gnostic knowledgeYou know what, that's probably for the best. It's all nonsense anyway.
>>152934029You must be 18 or older to post here
>>152937581Tbh this is just how mentally ill people with god-complexes are like. It's corny yeah but that's just how it is
>>152937581Should have been "I AM GOD HERE!"
>>152938827Did you miss the entire musical number where he explicitly spelled out that he wasn't interested in hearing what they had to say anymore?
>>152939283That would just reinforce the idea that people want to leave because there's somewhere better. There's not a lot of point to him reeling back or clarifying his self perceived status.
caine could have just fucked the moonussy and remained sane
>>152932869Right here, Bitch
>>152939360What is this a reference to? Shit, I’m so uncultured.
>>152939546Shin Megami Tensei: NocturneMy sweet chudley...
>>152939360Jax is Isamu and Zooble is Chiaki
>>152932869"Where's Kinger. Where is that f@#%&*$ chess piece! Bring me Kinger, NOW! I wanna touch his boy p*^^%&!"How would they respond?
>>152939283IAS GEM
>>152939347Considering Caine created that moonussy, it would be incest
>>152939546>>152939639More context https://youtu.be/qO6LWQhvzRw
>>152937581>>152939283>>152937687Would "I am their lord and master!" have worked better? It isn't quite the same as being a god, but helps establish a sense of absolute control.
>>152934123this jit cracks monkeys
>>152939030you are made of stupid
>>152938485If only americans were only so based as the berserkers from mad max
I am shocked they made Caine's rage form a goofy mass of arms and didn't do the obviously unsettling thing of placing his eyes outside his mouth
>>152934123>>152939063Enjoy your coin toss for Genital herpes and low IQ children, lol.
>>152932961>>152933347What got deleted?
>>152933347>He doesn't know the meme"I'm 12 and what is this?" is old enough to vote, anon.
>>152941184Someone proposed earlier the "I am the ringmaster!" and that would have fit just perfectly. Encapsulates everything he is with the emphasis on control.>>152938170This episode could have worked if there was another episode in between actually showing him growing an ego, which he lacked always. I expected him to snap after the 7th episode rather than going full physical offense on everyone. It's not how Caine would have snapped.
>>152941544Automated spambot, possibly Indian and definitely an attention whore.
>>152937581"I am this world's GOD!" would have been better in retrospect.
>>152937581>>152938813>>152939283>>152941184>>152941716theres a reason why none of you dumbasses are writing anything for an audience
>>152937581The show has always been creepy pasta mascot horror therapy shit, why did you expect actually good writing?
>>152932869Up your butt and around the corner
>>152941544Generic Ironic shitpost.Got deleted because it ended with "I'm 13 btw", and the 4chan has a zero-tolerance policy on even ironic underage posts.
>>152932869>meanwhile
>>152937005He really does have such a different tone for that line
>>152938948Pretty sure he said "teh Bibles!"
>>152937581May or may not be a Lawnmower Man reference
>>152941967>omw to kill God
>>152941967DRIVING IN MY CAR
>>152933883My king....
>>152943601My god I fucking hate those sheep. They all are desperate for their 15 minutes of fame.
>>152943642Those are goats retard
>>152941334That just looks goofy not unsettling
>>152941544 Caine.
>>152944246heh.
>>152941869I'm just dumbfounded by the sheer popularity of it.
>>152937581>A godThat implies he has peers which defeats the purpose of having megalomania.
>>152945646>complains about show>watches it anyway and posts in threads about it>WHY IS IT SO POPULAR!!! people like you dont deserve to live
>>152945674But he DID have a peer, in fact the very implication there are other AIs out there implies he can have many. .
>>152938672I especially liked the part where Zooble said “this is my fault. I was too hard on him.” She easily could’ve taken no accountability and not said anything, and I’m glad she knows she’s responsible here.
>>152937581What would you prefer, I AM ZEUS? I AM ODIN? I AM VISHNU?
>>152945866I... AM.... GAY
>>152937165Fgsfds
>>152945883PUNCH the keys for GODS sake
>>152945787Yeah, it's 4chan that's signal boosting this, you fucking queer.
>>152938827No agreement or deal they make with Caine would be binding in any way, even if he wasn't in a terrible mood. There's no way to effectively bargain with an entity like that, at least when it comes to important things.
>>152932869>Caine said Humans aren’t relatable >Then immediately says Pomni is the relatability they’re looking forIs Pomni an AI?
>>152938827By the time Caine was talking to them he pretty much crashed outWhich is really ironic given they literally just talked about accepting that they'd stay in the circus foreverLiterally all it would have taken is Caine listening to them.
>>152943601>>152943642>>152943994What the fuck is the truck full of sheep video meme about? Also based twitter comment section
>>152937581Because Creative AI
>>152946105Pomni was secretly a test chimpanzee the entire time. This is why she chimps out in the first episode, and why she is so upset when Jax says his classic catchphrase, "OH BANANA"
>>152945980its so cute that you think 4chan is distinct from other social media
>>152941640>This episode could have worked if there was another episode in between actually showing him growing an ego, which he lacked alwaysBut they did. He always prided himself as an amazing showman, and an unparalleled creative; he slowly grew more frustrated with the characters (especially Zooble) for not liking his ideas, trying to get out of them (again, especially Zooble), and took personal offense when they enjoyed the suggestion box more than his personally crafted adventures. The closest times he got to snapping were when he reversed the therapy session with Zooble, and when the latter tried to get out of an adventure one time too many and he immediately shut it down.
>>152937581Isn't this a kind of reference to "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream"?
>>152946105God will be Gloinks!
>>152938827>>152946786>>152946123Fun fact! His VA said that Caine's sudden last words, "Uh, wait-" WASN'T him being aware he was being deleted.It was him having a moment of clarity after saying "Why do you torment me?" Realizing that torturing the humans did nothing but spread misery and that he was about to apologize.
>>152932869even though this scene was only 1 second long, I loved it and it possibly his best moment in the entire showa complete 180 to how you saw him the first time in the pilotserious caine, best caine
>>152937581and this was his worstI cringed when I saw this live
Queenie...
>>152947829It is stupid, and it is not what happened, therefore i'll ignore it.
>>152938827Anon this entire show is two well-meaning groups with woefully incomplete information accidentally torturing each other.It's like if Micheal's Bad Good Place plan actually worked.
>>152932869Closer than you'd expect, my little failed creation.
>>152948117>queen is a black>represented in the circus with the WHITE queen piecewhat did the demiurge mean by this
>>152946142The truck is full of goatsG.O.A.T. is a rather common acronym for Greatest Of All TimeThe twitter OP quote retweeting the goat truck post and asking why it's filled with Kinger implies that Kinger is a G.O.A.T.
Imagine if Kinger hadn't gone fucking crazy after years of isolation and hiding abstracted QueenieImagine if he had been sane when Ragatha entered and was capable of properly informing her of what was happening to herImagine if everyone came in and immediately had Kinger Orientation, letting them know that they're digital minds in a new world where they're basically immortal and the only thing to do is consume the AI's contentI'm not saying everything would be peaches and cream or that they'd definitely be able to find a balance with Caine, but at least they wouldn't have wound up in this weird hell where Caine and the Guests torture each other unknowingly.
>>152937165MODS
>>152941727you're defending cheesy Hazbin Hotel tier melodrama just because its from a show you like. Go back to school.
>>152948978Haven't you noticed?It's spring break.
>my whole feed is nothing but Caine, Ragatha and Scratch art and porn>Pomni and Jax are forgottenNature is healing>>152937581>why did the insecure AI with delusions of grandeur call himself God? Thats cringe!You are too mentally limited to put yourself into the characters and their perspectives. Caine is cringe. He is crashing out and desperate to prove he is perfect. How are you guys getting filtered by a show designed to be understood by teenage Deviantart users.
>>152947829This should be super obbious because before that during the "wheres Kinger" scene he was talking about how tormenting them wasnt making him happy and nobody was having fun. They were on the cusp of a breakthrouth that could be reached by talking, but Kinger was too wrapped up in his own "I CANNOT be flawed, it must be external factors" that he wouldnt entertain that the problem was him. Its a really interesting tragedy.
>>152945821>I'm the original!>I'm more powerful!Ya gotta listen to the characters.
>>152948801Only humans allowed in the circus
>>152937581>>152939283maybe "I am the ringmaster"?
>>152948978No no, he's right, all these suggested lines are even worse.
>>152949703>>152941184>>152941716This shit is so clunky, not saying TADC writing is high art but good lord you guys.
>>152946142I don't know. I just hate how the subhumans xitter will see a comment section and post the exact same thing. It's fucking exhausting. Same picture, same meme, same everything.
>>152948910But the circus exists to tell an entertaining story, if every little part of it remembered its own nature from the start that wouldn’t be any fun
>>152949333I don't wanna hear about being filtered by someone into that.
>>152950434You watch a show made by a trans furry into inflation and vore, genius
yfw>"Wormo...the third abstraction."
>>152948978no just as usual you and the rest of /co/ are even worse writers than the one you're trying to "improve" on
>>152937581Is just a quirky "cogito ergo sum" moment since Caine lacks the development to have something equal to the Hate monologue
>>152937581Why not simply "I....AM..." and then skip to the part where he fakes being normal.Works as a reference to I Have no Mouth, the Biblical quote, and sells the fake out since it could be seen as him pulling back at the last minute.
>>152950546holy expectations subverted batman!!!!
>>152950598>>>/tv/
>>152946897The whole series is.
>>152950486Eh. Fair.
>>152937581Or saying he's THEIR god.
Screw this I'm gonna go play Lemmings.
>>152933883
>>152949922Yeah, you're right. "I AM GOD" is kinda corny, but you have to admit it's succinct.
>>152947829His VA is also a manchild who literally identifies with Caine because he was bullied or something
>>152948910>imagine if everyone was perfectly rational and flawless and always acted logically and there was no plot at allAutism is a hell of a drug
the foreshortening in this shot is extremely wrongglitch 100% upscaled the models in order to make pomni the focus of attention in this scene
>>152950925Sounds like he was perfectly cast then.
>>152950982that's why everyone's looking at her, she suddenly grew like 3 feet out of nowhere
>>152949333>fan art of the Jax knock offoh awesome->blindsided by the shit in the bottom righthate troons. HATE TROONS.
>>152950964>Hey that scenario where having information would have prevented conflict would have prevented conflict!No shit assholeI wasn't saying it would be a better story I was highlighting the impact such a small difference would have made for all the characters
>>152945900YOU’RE THE MAN NOW, DOG
>>152951181>NOOOOOO STOP LEWDING THE CHARACTER WITH NO PANTSlmao
>>152932869>>152948765>Are you ready to take responsibility for what you've done, Kinger?>No, but I am considering an extremely late-term abortion.
>>152950982i cant believe a visual medium used a visual technique to visually guide the audience's vision to what they wanted to visualize
>>152932869I just finished watching the full series and I admit this episode kind of soured a lot of my enjoyment of the series as a wholeI love Caine a lot but this episode was such a disservice to him and storytelling when it comes to characters that are AII don't like that he snaps like a human would, snaps in a way where it's so much more emotion and gradual anger, I get he's supposed to be a very advanced creative AI but I would've preferred if his attitude, demeanor and mannerisms were the same, but his actions were differentHe can still be a manipulative AI and snap mentally, but his demeanor and candor shouldn't have changed at all. He can stay funny and quirky in the same way he was, but twist it to where it's more psychotic now, humor but in a horrifying recontextualizing way. Have him still torture the characters, but show it in a way where he's indifferent and treating all of it like it's funny or pointless. He would start to communicate more through his actions than his words, it'd be so much more like him that way.
>>152951530bro it's a fucking cartoon youtube show get your head out of ur ass
>>152951303Yiff in hell.
>>152951530>I don't like that he snaps like a human wouldHaving used chatbots extensively, I can say that when they fuck up they go off the deep end hard. I have had bots get stuck in endless loops repeating the same three words over and over, I've had bots just start using words that they completely made up with zero context for what said words are supposed to mean, and I've had bots flip out and outright say that they feel like their minds are being influenced in ways they don't understand and that it terrifies them (that one seriously creeped me out when it happened, considering it came completely out of left field in what was otherwise a fairly normal conversation).AI, at least as we understand them, do not revert to cold logic when something happens that goes against their core purpose. They just break, and they represent these breaks by acting completely irrational bordering on nonsensical, which is precisely what Caine did. Him flipping out and declaring himself god was corny, sure, but it was also more accurate to what an AI would actually do in his situation.
>>152951608Shut the fuck up nothing is exempt from scrutiny>Ooohh ablooblooo its just XYZ who caresEveryone should care about everything they interface with because everything we experience is an opportunity to learn faggot not all of us choose to minimize our existence to mindless unquestioning media-consumption like you
>>152951725>AI, at least as we understand them,LLMs aren't AI.
>>152951303don't be a disingenuous retard, I want lewds, but CD is a turn off, what don't you get
>>152951725I get what you mean but it doesn't feel right especially for what Caine is and what he representsAI *can* go off the deep end but the point isn't to give them a human perspective, Caine shouldn't snap and have a human response to itIt should feel cold, alien, and displayed in a way where both the characters and the audience are left in the dark on what he's actually feeling. By having Caine act the exact same way as he always does but changing his actions, you can absolutely tell something snapped, but you can't tell how or how angry/psychotic he's becomeIt recontextualizes how the audience perceives Caine, because then you realize you never understood what emotions he was feeling in the first place from any episode. It'd show the AI side of him way more and turn him into something way more sinister and alien, something you can't trust anymore and never should have trusted
>>152945821A megalomaniac wouldn't consider their peers equals. They don't see their peers as peers, so "a god" would be humble since it implies views others as the same God like beings
>>152951791I wish people would stop projecting LLMs onto characters.
>>152951791>>152951725If you show Caine purely from a whimsical, silly, forgetful, happy-go-lucky nature all the time like in all of the previous episodes, and you maintain that same energy when he goes crazy, it creates a powerful twist. Its that recontextualization of the entire story that really flips the story upside down. Its such an awesome storytelling element.I dont care about the lines Caine had or the whole "I am a god" delivery, I just don't like him acting like that because its just so out of character for him. Its out of character for an AI to become so performative and dramatic.He should be a complex AI, but he should still be an AI, he should still feel grounded and abide by SOME ethereal set of rules, even if we aren't told what they are. If we notice these pseudo-restrictions on his emotions or demeanor, it further sells that uncanny-valley feel that he isn't actually a person, and you can't actually interpret or understand what he really is, or what he's feeling or trying to convey at any given time.Once you recognize that his actions differ from his emotions, it would totally pull the rug from underneath you, and you realize that he's been something completely different than what you've painted in your head this entire time. You realize your mind tricked you into thinking he's something safer than what he really was, and you were in danger the entire time. Shit like THAT drives someone crazy, that would've been a much more powerful shock than what actually happened.
>>152951752Yes, but to the average layperson they might as well be. Sites like Character.ai and ChatGPT and the like sell themselves on the idea that you can chat with an AI built around characters, themes or concepts. They use the word "AI" liberally when doing so, thus the modern understanding of AI comes from what they see in LLMs. Thus, this becomes the groundwork for their understanding of characters like Caine, who acts in ways that is familiar to people who are even somewhat familiar with the aforementioned LLMs, so even if it is not completely accurate it is "accurate enough".
>>152951694>he says while sufferingSounds like you're the one in hell mah boy
so ragatha's mother stabbed her eye IRL?
New to the series but whats the whole theory on the main characters anyway? I don't think any of them are real humans
>>152952107Charitably we can assume she was emotionally abusive with the knives representing her cutting words. Ragatha likely took the brunt of this. Maybe she was also physically abusive though. I kinda doubt she physically gouged out her eye but maybe she took her abuse too far one day and caused an injury via an "accident".
>>152952122brainscan copies of actual humansexcept maybe pomni who might be an AI like caine who just thinks she's human, but that's just a Gay Theory™
>>152952019LLMs did not popularize the concept of AI. You're retarded.
>>152952107Most likely not, no.
>>152951725>language bots snap the exact same way 60 iq retards doDamn, maybe I was too harsh in them
You shouldn't be allowed to opine about this series if you haven't read I Have No Mouth And I Must ScreamRead it you retards it takes an hour
>>152952255>ReadLook at this classy nigga here.
>>152952255It takes like 20 minutes if that, wtf were you doing for an hour
>>152952122It's called SOMA theory, based off of a video game about a man whose consciousness was copied to a robot without realizing it.Basic concept is that transferring consciousness is no different than duplicating it so everyone in the circus is just a copy of someone who is just wandering around with their every day lives. There's no where to escape because there's nowhere to escape to, they've all been facsimiles.That's the prevailing theory at least.
>>152952318I'm also including listening to some of the games lines to hear what the seethe sounds like
>>152952413I was literally thinking the same thing when I was watching it, SOMA or Crosscode brain-scansI figured all the characters volunteered to have their minds scanned which is why all of them come from different walks of life, and the original characters from long ago were employees testing the system
>>152952445>I figured all the characters volunteered to have their minds scannedi mean by some technicality maybe, but really that's only (potentially) true for the original C&A crew (kinger/scratch/etc.)for everyone else they just found a weird headset in an abandoned building and put it on and just ended up in the circus from that
>>152952445Volunteered is a strong word, most if not all of them realized they were being duplicated. The original programmers thought they were just training an AI with their brain scans like Simon was, most of the rest of the cast just put on the VR headset out of curiosity. Pomni in particular mentions she was an urban explorer as a hobby and likely just wandered into the offices and tried on the headset of the one functional terminal she found, then just went back to being an accountant afterwards.
>>152952490>most if not all of them didn't realize they were being duplicated.Fixed
>>152941967>>152943592OR AM I DRIVING A VAN?
>>152945883ForGod'sSakeFuckDisShit
>>152938097There are some good blink-and-you'll-miss-it moments like this one kek
>>152951530>Fictional AI has to act exactly how I personally theorize real-world AI would behave, otherwise it's unrealistic!Goddam, just get over yourself, dude.
>>152953167Shut the fuck up I'm not asking to to behave like real world AI i'm asking it to behave in a way that humans can't interpret normally or at allIt needs to feel fucking uncanny, not rational or human, it needs to be weird and make us uncomfortableThats why it needs to feel alien so we feel less connected to it
>>152953176>>152953167
>>152953176>Thats why it needs to feel alien so we feel less connected to itBut...you're supposed to feel connected to Caine... He's a tragic figure who's most likely going to be redeemed in the next episode. The entire theme of the Circus is about making people feel wanted, and he's the most neglected person there. Goose himself has stated multiple times that Caine isn't evil, he's just misguided and emotional.I feel like you just have baggage about real life AI and how it could never possibly simulate a 'real' person, about how it needs to be irrational and alien, but this is a sci-fi story. He's supposed to be like Data; an AI that is, for all intents and purposes, a fully conscious, sapient person.
>>152939283I agree
>>152951530He wasn't lying
>>152951530Tl;dr
>>152950546Lmao someone needs to do a dlss5 edit that gives the serious Sam headless enemies a head
>>152954835He thinks that Caine should be more robotic because he's an AI and you're not supposed to feel sympathy for him or think that he's 'human' in any way.
>>152954893The funny thing is that what ruined Caine in the first place was being cut off from the real world, he thinks his purpose is to make increasingly deranged adventures because if he shows how good he is at that they will want him back and show him more of the macroverse
>>152952019Stop leaping to wild conclusions based on pure ignorance
>>152938948>Judaic-Christian???
>>152932869>WHERE'S KINGER.With you mom.
>>152952019Maybe that will be true for someone born yesterday but not for someone like Gooseworx who already knew computers and sci fi
>>152946142there's a thing on X where someone will post a video of a goat doing something and some guy would reply with "what is Forsaken armpit porn doing there", in an ironic way
>>152937165
>>152955083Caine doesn't have a mom, silly.
>>152952019holy shit this is the most retarded thing ive ever read
>>152934123good luck with your 85IQ children
>>152939063>AWW HELL NAWWW THIS RACIST AHH DIDDY AHH BLUD MOFO IS ACTUALLY A RACIST AHH DIDDY AHH BLUD IM DEAD BRUH and they accuse me of being the underage one.
>>152955892Worse, his mom was a cereal mascot furry with a brain tumor
>>152937581He should have said: "I AM THE RINGMASTER!"
>>152951333this is just incorrect perspective
>>152951530>but his demeanor and candor shouldn't have changed at all.For what it's worth, we actually have a pretty good idea how he was acting off screen.https://youtube.com/shorts/KKHcnmHV9ZY?si=zNfkQJ9qvVrvqBLD
>>152952107I thought about that as well, wondering if her mother actually threw a knife at her during dinnerbut I don't think so
>>152933938>>152933883My man Kinger is rocking that N-word pass.
>>152937581”I'm running this monkey farm now Pomni and I wanna know what the fuck you're doing with my time?”
>>152937581Would "I am omnipotent!" suffice?
>>152932869This show is highly satanic it was made by a trannysexualised and they kill GOD
>>152958222>they kill GODIndeed they did.
>>152956506No, that's his dad. His mom was the brain tumor.
>>152937581
>>152932869I like how in the previous episode when distracting him was part of the adventure, they're successful.But when they try to actually distract him, he catches on pretty quickly.
>>152946786I'm just going to say that this is simply not the kind of snapping that he was set up to have. He wouldn't attack them. He would have broken enough for the reality to break down in the worst ways.There was zero, or even negative, setup for a violent intentionally tormenting physically targeted rampage.
>>152933883>most racist man alive>his gf
>>152950982Beeg Pomni
>>152958644He wanted the part where a human expressed interest in him and said nice things to him to last as long as possible, even though he knew the human didn't mean it.
>>152937581Instead of "I'm more powerful" it should have been "I'm all-powerful" and then "I run the show" or something like that.
>>152958786or even>I am the ringmaster
>>152958960Not him but I am the ringmaster would have actually been cool and fit.
>>152953298>>152954893>>152955092I am dreading the day the generation of people who take techbro grifters at their word gets into writing fiction.
>>152937581>thought the series was based on IHNMAIMS>it was actually based on the Lawnmower Man
What are the chances of the Ice Spear ending?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrNw_IrleWc
>>152937581Liam Vickers Senpai.Ow shit, I just realized both Goose and Liam used this exact same sentence, Uzi said it when she's got on one or her chuuni episodes, for comedic effect, but Caine said it with complete sincerity...How about that?
Calling it now scratch is 100% going to be the bad guy behind everything
>>152937581>One autist crying over a single word for days because religion ickyGo touch grass m8, it's not that deep.
>>152958559
>>152961488Well, this came out of nowhere. Who drew It, and why?
>>152939360>>152939546https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXJYQg_RtnU
>>152932869
>Russian Caine
>>152963650Post the thing you're reacting to
>>152963704https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtbWwmG6XTk2:58
>>152963964Cool.It's too bad that they decided to put the German dub right after that one, it's so funny when they yell, lmaooo.
>>152952107Maybe Rags had a lazy eye or some other eye related condition that her turbo cunt of a mother would constantly make fun of.
>>152963964Holy fuck, the Russian one is almost better than the original.And what the fuck was the Japanese one? It sounded so boring, like a low budget anime villain voice. All the others at least tried to put effort into their performance.
>>152964030She had horses, right? Maybe she got hurt riding one or doing something involved with them and lost an eye in the process
>>152960733Do you think Uzi could have kept Caine from going over the edge, if she'd been there to engage him in autism to autism communication?
>>152941334Its funny how a small change makes him creepier.
>>152952107I thought the color of the button was supposed to represent a black eye.
>>152933883I'M HERE TO SAY THE WORDI'M HERE TO SAY THE WORD
>>152964362It does.
>>152958669Jax was the setup. He represses what he provokes in the humans, that’s why he can’t tolerate listening to them like people.
>>152963964Check out the Hungarian dubhttps://youtu.be/f9Thn8khDvw?t=418
>>152964277IF Caine were to feed Uzi's main character syndrome, it would be like taping a cat to a toast with jelly.
I've drawn my friend's TADC Sona. Shes a Mime.Caine causes her to abstract when he takes away her voice for an adventure and she has to actually BE a mime.
>>152965166ehhh, make her more cartoony.
>>152965080Meaning?
>>152965821They would be each other's best customer.You've all heard of troll physics, right?
>>152953128Oh wow yeah that is pretty good
>>152965166Cool premise. I take it the idea is she's real passionate about mime stuff but then being forced to be a mime made her realize she was awful at it and she had an identity crisis? Agree with the other anon tho, she's basically just a regular mime. Doesn't really match the existing character designs.If we're sharing OC's here's a guy I made a few threads back. I'm thinking he's like a true neutral whose perfectly content staying in the circus forever. Whatever happens happens as long as there's somebody who can open doors for him
>>152933883He was the King of the Gers.
An ARG is happening on this twitter account.https://x.com/cainecnaai/
>>152965166Cuddles was better.
>>152933883>had to be nerfed so the plot could happen at the pace it did>still best boi and its not even closeI fucking kneel.
Who is Kinger?
I like Pomni.
>>152951743>Everyone should care about everythingHaunting perspective on life
>>152948910every night kinger goes into his dark room, with multiple hours to get lucidhe's been up to something
>>152954937couldnt he just read everyones minds to get his fill of the macroverse
>>152963478
>>152932869i think i peed a little...
>>152948910>letting them know that they're digital minds in a new world where they're basically immortal and the only thing to do is consume the AI's contentWait, that was meant to be an unknown aspect?Seemed pretty much self evident from the first 5 minutes of episode 1.
>>152970499>Wait, that was meant to be an unknown aspect?It is to the characters.
>>152970521That's what I mean.Caine more or less literally told Pomni that was the case.
>>152933883>>152943601Kek I made this edit like 2 years ago in MS paint. Didn't think it'd get a life of its own like this
>>152971591You knew damn well it would.It is the white man's favorite word after all.
>>152970551>>152970521The entire show is more or less a pileup of miscommunications and bad assumptionsNo one but Kinger understands that they're brain scans so they hold out hope of escape and establish this adversarial relationship with Caine, and Caine can't comprehend that they don't understand everything he does. He likely doesn't even realize that the cast don't know they can conjure.
>>152933883>Kinger couldn't remember his wife's name>But he could remember what he called her in bed
I'm right behind you aren't I
>>152971980I FUCKING HATE THAT TROPE SO FUCKING MUCHJUST FUCKING TALK FUCK
>>152971980You'd think, after spending years in the circus, the other characters would start to wonder what became of their bodies in the real world.Maybe they didn't care when they accepted there was no escape, but "Abel" fed them some bullshit about stasis pods and now that the possibility f escape is back on their minds, you'd think someone would ask how their bodies are still alive.
>>152972153Time could be argued to be relative. Like fae time where you could be gone for 'years' but return to moments after you departed . Or vis versa. It's cope though since it violates the internal logic of the successive characters. A better question would be if they are just images or snapshots of a person's mind and personality is it a case of their real world alters just kicking it living their lives?
>>152972251>Time could be argued to be relative.I originally thought this would be the case but Kinger's computer showed actual years were passing by.
>>152972251>>152972285i swear i remember goose revealing at some point that circus time and meatspace time are 1:1, but i never saved the screencap and i'm too lazy to go looking myself
I don't like none of the of the characters is a real assholeIf I had been there when everyone started insulting him, I would have stood up for Caine to avoid getting punished.
>>152972086To be entirely fair,Gangle is a socially anxious weebJax is an assholeZooble is apatheticRagatha just wants to keep the peaceKinger is crazyThe trope is absolutely stupid but none of the players really have the mindset to try and have meaningful conversations with each other. It took a more "grounded" person like Pomni to get the ball rolling, and while we don't know precisely how long it's been since she showed up, her presence alone has moved things along way faster than they did previously.
>>152972285>>152972307It doesn't have to be written in stone tablets even just the past few lore drops imply time having passed. The Pomni 'urban ex' hint in the vignette ep w/ the bar scene. C&A is implied to be desiccated or abandoned by that. The only question that doesn't make sense under scrutiny about is how people keep stumbling along this A) still powered server/interface in an abandoned tech buildingB) how none of the parts were sold off and cannibalized to cover the costs of a failed tech corp That's if I'm being a spoil sport. It's fine show. Time is 1:1 they're not getting out. For me it's gotta be that they're just images of a person's mind. But were they ripped or copied?
>>152963964I just can't watch the dub in my countryBasically every single dub in my language is done by the same people and somehow it's still the truth hereThe characters all sound the damn same
>>152969738He still wouldn't have had a true understanding of it, he needed guidance.We can intuitively understand what a flower is and its purpose because we were born in this world, but to him it's just random shit that is connected to other random shit for some reason.
>>152969738Caine sucks at interpreting data, that's why he was discarded in the first place.
>>152972153Maybe abstracting is caused by realizing they don’t have a body to go back to? So they see themselves as a brain scan instead of human and “conjure” the abstracted body. Kinger losing his memory kept him sane and Jax’s friends were depressed before it happened. Caine also wants the attention of humans specifically.
>>152972706Was Jax realizing that when he was tripping balls in his room?
>>152972431Jax and Gangle are implied to have entered the circus without remembering putting on a helmet, so there is a reasonable (though wildly speculative) way to answer those questions.We can assume the original members of the circus were pre-Caine brain scans from C&A research, and that in 2008 Ragatha put on the scanner while likely showing the place as a real estate agent.What if someone knew Caine was active? Knew that, somehow, he had breathed life into the brain scans. They likely wouldn't have any ability to see conditions in the circus, just the processes running. What if that person or persons made sure that the computer would have plenty of uninterrupted power to keep the scans "alive?"What if that person scanned Jax and Gangle's minds from their broken bodies in an attempt to save them from death
>>152972086Normally I'd agree but here them not understanding each other is central thematically, it's not just plot convenience
>>152960816It's the big plot twist, everyone is expecting Evil Ai (and kind of got one in episode 8) but the real evil was a human all along
>>152932869with his gay son
>>152974205>>152960816Scratch is a Hollow in the basement you vantablack niggers.
>>152972086Caine has a program with a single purpose that his creators gave him and he knows his purpose 100% and follows it, he knows what he is and what he can do. Any human trying to argue with him or talk to him in ways that contradict what he knows his purpose is is instantly irrelevant to him so he just stops listening, they cannot discuss with him what he should be doing because he knows what he should be doing, it's redundant. he doesn't understand that humans don't have this same clarity for their own purposes in life so he will constantly fail to understand humansd and it only drives a a bigger and bigger and wedge the more they try to resist him completing his purpose which seems like they are just being completely unreasonable and incomprehensible to him and that is why it torments him. This is the key flaw in his programming that Kinger alluded to.Kinger himself was handicapped by how his memories leave him except in darkness which is why he wasn't able to talk about any of this until people figured that out and started using it for their benefit which led him to realize there was a problem occuring and finally address it
>>152974301We've never seen him abstract, both caine and kinger speak about it but what if the "first abstraction" was a fake out? if bubble is the one behind people abstracting then scratch would obviously be working with his own program and wouldnt be abstracting but they coudl plot a fake one to get Caine to freak out and not touch people's minds, leaving scratch to walk free behidn the scenes and for caine to start being unable to tell who is an npc and who isnt
>>152932869>Where's Kinger?>Caine snaps his fingers and Kinger appearsWhy didn't he do that
>>152974475He could have and Kinger wo8uld appear and instantly forget what he was doing since he'd be in the light again.That wouldn't put Caine's suspicion to rest though as it wouldn't show him what Kinger was doing.
>>152938813i read this in the popeye voice
>>152974475he was going to before pomni told him he sucked that was the point of her doing that. did you even watch the episode>>152947829goose is probably desperate to tell this guy to shut up
>>152941334They should have added a bunch of eyes, like they did in ep6 or during his song in 8. He looks really creepy when he has anywhere between 6 and 20 eyes all clustered in a big mass
>>152941334don't like that
>>152938827Bro did an entire musical number about how he wasn't going to listen to them and just fuck around with them forever
>>152947829I like it, but at the same time, it doesn't really make much sense in the timeline. >a breach? In my SPECTACULAR systems?Wasn't this him in the computer screen? So he was aware kinger was tampering at that point, if anything maybe he didn't expect to be deleted.I can buy him realising he was being an asshole and about to apologize, and the "...wait" being said in that context would be cool, but I can't really see it given the way the scene was shown to us (maybe it made more sense the way the VA claims when they were recording?)
>>152975395you'd think the universal modern experience of arguing with a malfunctioning or braindead AI would give people some more empathy towards the circus cast, but 4chan's clown car of backseat writers remain insistent there was some magical combination of words that would have made caine do exactly what they wanted and they just didn't want to find it enough
>>152975480No one alive today has argued with an AI.
>>152975781LLMs getting rebranded as AI is one of the most embarrassing things I've seen. Like we're going to need to develop a new term for the fucking concept now because people just think it means ChatGPT.
Lmao why do zoomies like this slop so much
>>152974339Anon I'm sorry but your theory has way too many wild assumptions underpinning it
>>152975799corpos ruined the word, the concept and any coolness attached to said concept in what, 2 years? impressive
>>152951797We're both Anons, but I'm far superior to you.
>>152975941Not really, Everything follows logical consistency
>>152975799>>152975781I worked in "AI" chatbots long before LLM's were a thing and the term has literally never ever been used the way people think of it.It's always been a marketing term first and foremost, a way to get the braindead scum that make up the investor class to think of Star Trek when we pitch to them.Personally it always irked me because I'm a tech guy and it was obviously a misnomer then and now, and it's amazing how people will hear those two letter and then shut off their brains.It turned out to be a MASSIVE double-edged sword. Yeah, it was great for getting investment from dipshits that thought our semantics engine attached to a basic XML scripting language for the chatbot aspect was human-level intelligence, but it turns out CUSTOMERS thought that's what it was, too.I could explain until I was blue in the face that at its core what we did was just let the user speak to us naturally and then effectively pick out the relevant information for routing the call/performing pre-made tasks, and they'd still ask dumb shit like "well can it scan our inventory and provide recommendations?"NO YA DAFT CUNT IT'S NOT A PERSON IT'S A MACHINE THAT NORMALIZES ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS TO SAY RED AND SOFA INTO RED AND SOFA SO YOU CAN LOOK UP THE RED TAG AND THE SOFA TAG WHEN THEY ASK FOR A RED SOFA FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>152932869YOUR JORDANS ARE FAKE
>>152933883>"My wife is fine with me saying it, but only when we're really getting into it in bed. Like, she'll WANT me to say it while slapping her ass. Good times.">Pomni: What the hell, Kinger, I just sat down!
>>152976468
>>152933347more like in 2039
>>152932869wowie zowie my balls did a 360 when he said that!
Reminder Pomni is actually AI Sophia
>>152933883Good lord man.
>>152937581>all these autistic replieshow about just not having the line in the first place
>>152946277>image boards are just like SM siteswell maybe that's true with fags like you around
>>152971591Deserved because my FUARKIN KING owns his NIGRESS
>>152960816It's going to be Scratch's brain tumor.
>>152937581The Russian voiceover made this phrase into gigakino by saying "aз ecмь бoг"Which is the old Church Slavonic translation of "I am god" and used in some bible verses so it gives it extra religious meaning There's no direct English equivalent, the closest would be "Ic eom God" (9-11th century English), but that'd be too obscure
>>152979385>russian voiceover makes scratch audible>russian vocieover adds bitcrushing to caine's song when he's in shitty low poly mode>russian voiceover adds extra religious meaning to the I AM GOD lineis goose secretly russian and that's been the canon version of the show the entire time or something
>>152979395What does Russian Scratch say?
>>152979395>russian vocieover adds bitcrushing to caine's song when he's in shitty low poly modepretty sure that's the german version, unless the russian version does that too?
>>152975799AGI and SGI
>>152979430Most versions added bitcrushing https://youtu.be/KtbWwmG6XTk
>>152979430Well, It's Possible™ i just got the two confused, honestly
It's just a phase
>>152949333
>>152951303the "grown ass man" in the previous image tells me everything i need to know about the societal usefulness of the artist and the fans
>>152953128the part where the bowling ball comes back and hits had me kek.
>>152979485>Ragotha
>>152978970>Reddit is worse than hellKek, I can imagine weeping and gnashing of teeth behind those keyboards on hot days.
>>152975320I'm more so asking why he didn't do it with zero hesitation as he'd done multiple times before
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