are old cartoons really that better? It's not just nostalgia?
>>152937234>inane boomer ranting about "old better new bad" againOkay gramps time for your pain killers again
>>152937278Shit opinion; shit Reddit meme
>>152937234they are objectively better yes
>>152937234Little Bear and similar shows are great in that they are slower, pleasant, and still somehow grab your attention. They calmed me down as a child. I was already more well behaved than most children though.
>>152937234Thank God for MeTV Toons.
>>152937278Its always leftist boomers on reddit who say shit like thisYounger generations have no need to hate the classics this much
>>152937234IDK why Portuguese shit keeps showing up on my X feed.
>>152937234Boomers were rightYou have to control what your children watch on tvAnd we mocked them for it
>>152937329Yeah, most kids like the stuff they grow up with, but they very often fall in love with much older stuff too. Kids don't hate the classics as much as leftists do.
>>152937329>>152937347Old stuff can be good and new stuff can be good. I hate it when one side thinks that anything old=automatically good and how they think anything new=automatically crap and the other side is vice versa. Both extremes are shit and there is kino to be found in all eras
>>152937343Boomers expected everyone else to take responsibility for what their kids watched.
>>152937343>unironically agreeing with soccer mom PTA karensKill yourself scum
>>152937379/thread
>>152937380It takes a villageTaking "personal responsibility" of what your children watched while letting "other people" (liberals and queers) take over entertainment didn't work. Now everything on tv is some liberal fag shit and you will look like a loony if you try to control the media your children consume.
>>152937343>>152937380>>152937423T. Pic related
the zoomers sure are mad
>>152937234Old cartoons are definitely less brainrot than letting a kid browse youtube, so there's that.
>>152937234There are too many elements to a "good" cartoon to make such declarations, and anecdotes like the one in the pic don't ring true to me, and are probably pushing agendas. But I will say that a very noticeable difference between old and new media of all kinds is in the writing, in particular dialogue. Dialogue on older shows are generally more concise and polished. This could be due to a collective decline in ability, or it may just be shifting preferences. But I'm often struck by how good the dialogue is in older shows when channel surfing, even when the show as a whole is middling. This holds even truer the further one goes back. There are letters from unschooled soldiers in the civil war written with more poetry and lyricism than professional writers today.
>>152937462Because they have no principles or personalities of their own, the media they consume ends up making the core of their very essence. When you insult that media, you insult them on a personal level.
>>152937234Spongebob was already brainrot. Imagine today's slop.>Four-year-olds who watched nine minutes of the fast-paced cartoon SpongeBob Squarepants showed temporary attention and learning problems, researchers found.>The study compared 60 children who were randomly assigned to watch SpongeBob, the slower-paced PBS cartoon Caillou or to draw pictures as a control.>After nine minutes, the children did four tests to tap their "executive function" — such as attention, problem-solving and delay of gratification — which allows people to set goals and implement them. Executive function is important for helping children to learn and function in school and be creative, the researchers said.https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/spongebob-may-impair-4-year-olds-brains-1.999585lol at Nickelodeon saying, "the test was done on white kids, so it doesn't count."
>>152937234The baseline for good cartoons was better in crucial respects for a couple reasonsBut there were plenty of bad cartoons too
>>152937234The benefit of hindsight is that you can look back at decades worth of material and pick out only the very best stuff, and then act as if the top 10% of everything ever made in past years was representative of the bottom 90% of garbage that people forgot even existed.But yes, there used to be far better shows for kids, but also, kids used to actually watch TV and have to plant their asses in one place and pay attention to schedules and learn how to tell time and develop their understanding of delayed gratification. Instant, anywhere, on demand distractions being made by third world scammers and sexual deviants are bad because of what they are, and also because nothing short of taking baby's ipad away will stop them from consooming that brain melting trash during all waking hours.
>>152937657Older cartoons had more invested into them because they were meant to sell shit instead of allow an 'artist' to express themself.Older cartoons had better writing because they weren't people who aimed to be cartoon writers.Older cartoons had better animation because shit was done by hand instead of being as lazy as possible with modern tools.I just made all of that shit up.
I watched an episode of Blue’s Clues for nostalgia’s sake, and I was surprised by how slow and quiet it was compared to literally anything made in the past 25 years since then.
>>152937234Little Bear is so tranquil. I love it. The movie is good too. I always loved the flapjack scene from it, or the episode about Little Bear's Sweet Tooth.
>>152937657> But I'm often struck by how good the dialogue is in older shows when channel surfing, even when the show as a whole is middling.Sure, 90s cartoons had good shit. >This holds even truer the further one goes back.Obviously not true if you've seen early 20th century cartoons.
>>152937742The skill of doing this in animation is one of the reasons Genndy Tartakovsky has enjoyed such a prolific career and it’s not really taught any more
>>152937433Should unlimited free speech be defended even if it destroys us?
>>152937791Who's us?Why would it destroy you?Truth would win against lies, no? Truth cannot destroy you unless you're a conman.
>>152937234>are old cartoons really that better?Most of the time, yes. Mostly because the creators weren’t corrupted by social media and other degenerate nonsense.
Zoomers always instantly insult boomers for saying if but it's because they're deeply insecure and jealous. Imagine growing up now being blasted by social media from the time you were 1 and everyone says everything your generation made is shit. They're so irony poisoned they cant admit when something they like isn't shit because it might be cringe. And even when something new and good comes out their attention spans are fried so hard that they will forget it a week after its over. So they just shit on everything like an indian after taco bell. That's not even mentioning serious things like how only the very small minority of them will own a home and less and less people are having children and if they did divorce rates. And they're blasted with these facts and opinions about how the last was better. TV was better. CRTs are better. Music aas better. Cartoons were better. Anime was better. 2D animation was better. The economy was better. The internet was better. They're blasted with it all the time and it makes them hopeless and yearn for something they think they will never have (happiness.)
One of my relatives said Wow Wow Wubbzy was overstimulating or some shit and that bugged me
>>152937379Do people do meth casually? I always assume methheads are smoking before theyre tearing out catalytic converters or working for 40 hours straight.
Man little bear was the shit growing up. I remember my mom baking cookies in the kitchen and I would watch this while waiting
>>152937234>Are old cartoons really that better?Yes. Of course. Lol.
>>152937234They’re fucking not. Any cartoon made before the 2010s is pure fucking slop and only retarded manchildren above the age of 30 disagree. No one I know who is my age or younger actually watches dogshit made in the past decades. No one watches Boomer or Gen X slop and I’m sure most people on /co/ who are my age (26) or younger can agree 100%. I think nostalgia boomer trash should be banned from /co/. Ban the Gen X fags like we do the minors.Anyways, watch TADC. It’s legit a fucking masterpiece, and it’s proof cartoons today actually give a shit and aren’t the brainrot of the past.
Objectively yes. Even if pretending only the best of the best matter the quality in terms of writing, artstyle and animation has gone down significantly as new technologies allow for more corner cutting and standards are relaxed because instead of making a good cartoon now the corporations just want to make slop that reaches anyone and everything between a sperm cell and grandma who is about to pass away from natural causes.
>>152939272>No one I know who is my age or younger actually watches dogshit made in the past decadesI cant imagine why people with decent taste would try to avoid you.
>>152937791>words are violence
>>152937791>unironically vouching media censorship like some 90s TV watchdog cuntThe fact that retards like you unironically think like this is why /pol/ should be nuked off the site. You fuckers make me sick and should be booted off the site for good
>>152937234No, you're just watching slop
>>152939272Old bait was better too. Zoomers probabaly dont even know what fishing bait is let alone how to bait a good post.
>>152939469Cool it with the antisemitism please. The 4chan hack proved most of /pol/are from Isreal.
>>152939075>Music aas better. Cartoons were better. Anime was better. 2D animation was better.It's such a shame all these things got purged and no one can enjoy them anymore.
>>152937697>2011They likely showed them NuBob/post movie episodes. The golden age, especially season 1, was not fast paced nonsense like it later became.
>>152937234Yes, there is no cartoon that started after 2003 that's worth watching.
>>152937462They are rotten. They have a massige superiority complex about how much better their culture is in spite of 90% of it being a distorted recycling of millennial and Gen X culture from 20-30 years ago stripped of all its soul. The things that are original to them are wholly retarded shit like being scared of empty rooms. They are quantifiably dumber than every generation that came before them, the first generation this can be said about. They suck so much.
>>152937234Yes, but especially in the context of children's cartoons because a lot of them hired child psychologists to make sure they weren't doing anything that could negatively affect the kids development and it was back when a lot of political stuff was kept out of the programming in favor of more universal life lessons about human development, milestones, and emotions.Nowadays they don't pay mind to that at best and at worst actively do the opposite because they're afraid they're competing with the TikTok algorithm and they also force a lot of political garbage I to it hoping to socially engineer the kids.
>>152939764I do not want zoomers enjoying anything from my younger days that I like. They are so unrelentingly retarded and lame that their enjoyment of it will ruin it by association, like redditors but worse.
>show crazy cartoon>kids get crazy>show calm comfy cartoon>kids stay calmwoah
>>152937329> Younger generations have no need to hate the classics this much This. When I was a kid I obviously watched stuff of the time like Dexter, Courage, Rugrats, Ed, Edd, and Eddy, etc but I also got really into the old Looney Tunes and Hanna Barbera reruns like Quickdraw McGraw, Jabberjaw, Tom and Jerry, heck late at night before bed I even liked turning to TCM or whatever and watching old black and white episodes of Zorro. It was all just TV to me. The idea that kids wouldn't want to watch old stuff, especially when it's good is nonsensical. I think a big push just comes from people who either work in the "entertainment industry" or aspire to or feel that their preferred demographic(s) are only "represented" in the newer stuff so they're flipping out at the idea that people have the option to just not watch them if they don't want to.
>>152937343Based>>152937380What this Anon said >>152937423 it's sort of a tragedy of the commons situation. You have to care about the general well-being of society and making the world a better place.
>>152940497Cartoon gets harder, but for /co/ media in general the Dark Crystal show is actually really good
>>152937278>>152937234Look we've been over this with all the zoomer spamming>heh fuck MILLENNIAL WRITING>what the fuck why would a parent show their kid cartoons millennials grew up withSo you can't have it both ways and I'm pretty sure Thundercats is better for kids than whatever tranny shit that retard I went to highschool with who now works doing beanmouth animations is making.
>>152937234Yes, raise your kids on old Scooby Doo shows, like the pre 2000's ones.
>>152940542>would>both
>>152937278Literally true in this case. You can even see the change in longrunning shows like Spongebob where the recent episodes are all just overstimulation nonsense.We know enough about the human brain to know that whats is medically bad for you
Well yeah. Classic Thomas is pretty atmospheric and chill.
>The original Star Wars trilogy used to be considered extremely fast paced, breakneck action moviesIt's pretty funny now that people often see them as being kind of slow, and maybe even a bit boring.
>>152937234When my nephew was around 3yo Little Bear literally turned him into a super polite little man. After watching an episode he would get up and go looking for ways to be helpful.
