>Indie cartoon>Releases one episode a year, maybe 3 at the absolute best>Lower budget, amateur actors, amateur writing due to being unable to afford an actual writing staffHow exactly is this supposed to be better than mainstream tv?
unrelated but wtf is that rubberhose thing? looks like mortimer mouse
buh-buh-buh muh freedomino the le heckin evelino corporino...
Animation is expensive. Always has been. Always will be. Indie animation is an oxymoron unless we revert back to story time animation of the 2010s or Newgrounds animation of the 2000s
>>152941391Chucky Chicken https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ0g_0Kt_Zk
It's more like how is mainstream TV so crappy that indie animation is actually a stiff competitor now.
>>152941391Or are you talking about the mouse in the hat?That's Catching Up by LS Mark and his succubus wife
>>152941385I wish there was a sustainable way to get maybe 10 episodes done a year
>>152941417Just hire 100 people
>>152941417Make really short episodes
>>152941385It's not, it's all a hope and cope pony show meant to grant the illusion of unfettered creative freedom or something equally retarded despite the fact most of what's been produced is effectively of the same quality we were getting regardless.>>152941417AI unironically
>>152941417Maybe if episodes were around 4 minutes long, and then you’d have to consider how to spread your plot evenly throughout those episodes.
>>152941385I'm just tired of all the indie shows centered around 20 somethings working retail"Write what you know" has destroyed a lot of writers
>>152941385>How exactly is this supposed to be better than mainstream tv?It's not, but the television animation industry imploded so we don't have much choice. The alternative is everyone here start reading comics or watch anime and good luck convincing the cartoon exclusive posters to do either...
>>152941574Pretty sure cartoon posters are the ones watching anime, not comicfags.
>>152941574Better question, when are we getting indie anime?
>people spend literal thousands of hours playing video games, watching tv, or browsing the internet in their free time>...>people draw lots of pictures in their free time>this is expensive! this is impossible!Someone please explain this.
>>152941602Drawing and animating are skills
>>152941385>1-3 episodes a yearThat isn't a fucking show imo. You'd be better off calling each "episode" a special. If you can't deliver episodes weekly/biweekly you've failed as a "series"
>>152941602Cartoons take a long time to animate and a big budget to fund everything that comes with it if you don’t have the skills yourself. It’s work, not leisure.
I wanna fuck that goth bitch next to the cat mom so badly
>>1529413852 episodes a year would be great desuevery 6 months you get an ep
Literally who is 80% of this picture?Where is peak?
>>152941784Funny enough Bridge Kids has more episodes than most indie shows right now. Only ones I can think of that surpass the amount are Helluva and Sublo
>>152941574>It's not, but the television animation industry imploded so we don't have much choice.Nigga, go read a book. Play some games. Watch old cartoons.You literally have nothing but choices.
>>152941816>go read a book.I do Play some games. I doWatch old cartoons.I do, as well live action, listen to podcasts and music. My mistake was saying we instead of "they", I just want to explain why indie cartoon get even talked about here to begin with, instead of /co/'s cartoon watchers just turtling up and only talking about old cartoons.
>>152941385How many episodes are optimal for an indie cartoon in you guy's opinion?Obviously these things won't have the luxury of running very long
>>15294185220
Large entertainment companies are collapsing under their own size and incompetence. Creator driven entertainment offers way more variety and the quality will only increase as tools become better, cheaper, and easier to use. YouTube being a garbage platform is the only real bottleneck so we just need competitive platforms for video hosting, which will also become easier as tech improves.
>>152941761That's a dude.
>>152941799Sublo really gets slept on as one of the OG indie shows. it never had a big viral moment but the fact that the guy is still slowly but surely working on it a decade later is honestly amazing. furthermore it's actually got good writing and voice acting unlike 90% of these which just sound like bad anime dubs.
>>152941417There is, it's called Korean labor.
>>152941852Don't measure in episodes, measure in runtime. And the answer is about 4-8 hours.4-8 hours is enough time, split across 15-30 minute episodes, to tell a nice, standalone story. If the smaller studios can streamline the process a bit more to the point where the entire production cycle for that content can be worked out in 2-3 years as opposed to 5-6, I think that would be sustainable.The single artist doing everything on their own model (the Harry Partridge approach) is not sustainable for anyone who doesn't have a Rich Uncle Pennybags bankrolling their projects.
>>152941863Still would.
>>152941976Based
>>152941761which one theres like 3 of them
>>152942499are you joking
>>152941385Genuinely funny seeing all these one-episode-wonders included as the “greats” of indie animation while completely excluding things with consistent releases like Bridge Kids or Sublo and Tangy Mustard. Why the fuck is Billie Bust Up even there, isn’t that a game? Litterbox isn’t even out yet. Does anybody even like LSCuck’s shitty cartoon?
>>152942586Hell, they don't even have Punch Punch Forever on there
>>152942586Catching Up is definitely the worst pilot on this image.
>>152942586He probably made it himself, that's why its in the front row.
>>152941975Indie cartoons aiming for TV-quality visuals should def be approached with a "limited series" mindset, like Amazing Digital Circus did. I don't mind the long waits since it's easy to understand why something self-funded by a relatively small team wouldn't pump out episodes as rapidly as some large-scale production backed by a multimillion dollar company. But anything that's manageable with an even SMALLER team like Bridge Kids or Sublo and Tangy Mustard is free to do whatever. Those two are led by people who can wear many hats and who know how to make the most out of limited resources. They're my favourite examples of independent animation tbdesu
>>152941385one of these isn't even a cartoon
>>152943285I couldn't for the life of me guess which one either. Who has even heard of half of these?
>>152941385Better than current cable
Hazbin has silver spoon money. Also look up the budgets for adult swim cartoons and apologize.
>>152942613Is it really? Never cared enough to watch myself since it looks uninspired at first glance, plus I don't respect LS Mark as a cartoon YouTuber. All his videos seems gimmicky.
>>152946144It’s 25 minutes of LSMark whining about a time girls were mean to him in high school
