organic webs are fucking gross. Spider-Man isn't a mutant.
Your opinion sucks
cry about it
You have jokes about spiders' spinnerets being on their abdomens in everything including Marvel itself. Best to not have organic webs.
>gets bitten by a radioactive spider and develops superpowers>not a mutant
>>152950286pretty sure there was a joke about it in the last spiderboy movie. (tom holland doesnt deserve the title of spiderman)
>>152950294Spider-Man doesn't have the x-gene. Not a mutant.
>>152950247i like the Queen activating them well into his career and/or him psychologically repressing his gross, accurate spider-powers, but not having them from the start.>>152950294Mutants have the x-gene. Most mutantcists don’t see the distinction, though
>>152950247>can walk up walls with shoes on>organic webs are too unbelievable
He's a mutated human, who just doesn't have the X Gene. So it's perfectly reasonable for his body to produce webs. Just like how Lizard is a lizard. I suppose to you since Lizard isn't a mutant he should just look human but run fast and have regeneration or some shit.
>>152950334hiding the buttholes in his wrists is pretty unbelievable
>>152950350>japanese version is shooting SMGs from a megazord.
Honestly though, I do feel like mechanical webshooters offer way more flexibility. I mean, organic webs can't do half the shit mechanical webshooters can.
it's very funny that Raimi wanted to have the issue where spider-man runs out of webs like in the comics but just gave him anxiety instead of running out lmao
>>152950349so I guess Peter should shoot webbing out of his asshole then
>>152950309He may not be a Mutant but he's a mutant
>>152950247You are right.
>>152950247>character is called spiderman>is just a glorified ant
>>152950963He lacks the powers of ants. He can't communicate with others, produce formic acid, or cut with mandibles.
He wouldn't be able to change the properties of his webs if they were organic.
>>152950384A simple compromise would be organic webs that he can string but can't shoot, so he first invents the shooters, then does experiments on the webs to create better versions he stores in capsules, followed by further progression as he upgrades the shooters..
>>152951335That would require implants though. Peter would have to be a cyborg.
>>152950247The only arguments I've seen for organic webs are borderline retarded
>>152951087>All spiders produce silks, and a single spider can produce up to seven different types of silk for different uses. Spiders use silks in many ways, in accord with the silk's properties.
>spider gives you the uniquely spiderlike powers of.......... clinging to walls and.......... precognition organic webs are the only thing that make spiderman spiderlike
Spider-manSpider-manDoes whatever a spider can (except for the one thing spiders are famous for doing, he needs a special gadget for that obviously)
>>152951577Wait, so all spiders are racist and homophobic?
>develops super strength and durability (not a spider power)>develops wall crawling abilities by controlling electro-static force (not a spider power)>develops spider sense (not a spider power)>develops good eye sight (not a spider power)>doesn’t develop the ability to create webs (a spider power)Hmmm…..
>>152950384He couldn’t make a device that coverts his organic webs into different types of webbing depending on the situation. Not that far fetched.
>>152950963That's a different marvel guy
Peter being a stand out in intelligence and resourcefulness is important to his character. He is not an everyman. He’s an ideal. Don’t get your take on the character from Stan Lee quotes or theme song lyrics.
Web shooter fags don’t actually prefer web shooters because it makes more sense. They prefer them because that’s what they were exposed to first. They’re not like organic web chads who are able to assess the two open and honestly and come to the correct conclusion that organic webs simple make more sense. Web shooter fags argue in bad faith. Always have and always will.
>>152951736Cool, you can showcase that in many different ways beyond the web shooters.
>>152951763Organic is better suited for a bio-horror kind of character. Hell, even his original organic webbing was from the symbiote that becomes Venom.
>>152950892In Marvel they are designated as "mutates".
>>152951763They are both interesting and depending on the stories you want to tell can have their own uses.With web-shooters he has more options to do interesting things with them, like make rubberized so they can stop electricity being conducted from them, make them burst into flames, or turn them into various weapons. It also creates some stakes if he is running low or his cartridges or the shooters are destroyed so he has to rely on his other powers to get out of a no longer sticky situation.Organic is cool for stories where he is discovering his powers, or is having trouble controlling them, or they are changing in one way or another.
>>152950247The main problem with having organic webs IMO is that it sort of detracts from the fact that Peter is supposed to be a genius, able to make this super innovative and advanced device that shoots webs in his room, with barely any advanced tech to aid him.Plus it is a bit gross, yeah.This thing where Peter is a lackey/disciple/apprentice/protegé of Tony Stark is much worse, though. I'd take organic webs over that any day.
>>152951896Everything you said about the web shooters you can also do with the organic webs.
>>152952040giving a character more powers is lazy and boring
>>152952040Wasn't the point of organic webbing to resemble a spider? Those don't do that. It is man's chemistry knowledge being applied.
>>152952371>Wasn't the point of organic webbing to resemble a spider?Can't be, since spiders don't spin webs out of their "wrists"
>>152951009he does he just can't use the acid like an ant
>>152950247Crack-smoking headcanon: Original comics Peter Parker has organic webs, too, but they come out a spinnerette next to his butt, as is logical for a spider. In shame, he collects them and puts them in little canisters, and just tells everyone he invented this magic web fluid and a shooter gizmo. That's why he didn't become a billionaire marketing synthetic spider webbing for military and industrial uses, because he can't actually make more than a couple of canisters a day.
>>152952371>>152952400He’s a mutant. He can shoot webs out of whereever his body wants him to shoot webs from. Your point is moot and as usual argued in bad faith.
>>152952094Making a character pull inventions out of his ass with no resources is lazy and boring
>>152952744His resources are the money he receives from pictures or working his job, this really is just a casual thread.
You know, threads like this just make me all the more puzzled that people still had faith in Spider-Man leading up to OMDLike every single one of these threads ends with the same consensus and acknowledgement>one of the most important characteristics is that Peter chose to be Spider-Man>he just had super strength, wall crawling, and a special sense>it was his flair for the dramatic and his tech savvy that made him be Spidey specificallySo with that understand, it's baffling that people gave any leniency to JMS's run of Spider-Man. That shit was absolutely dominated by totem nonsense and Peter tapping into "being the Spider" and how it was all supernatural and he was super duper spidery as fuck and what not. Just a complete core misunderstanding of the character that weighs as an albatross around the neck of JMS's otherwise fantastic dialogue writing and what not.
>>152950334Yes because hes a nuclear man with a genius intellect and good branding, not a spider mutant
>>152951481That's because it is retards making them. I call it 3.5 syndrome, where a retard is convinced the very first entry into a medium, series, or genre he sees is actually the standard to which all others should hold to when its actually a simplification for retards to consume bordering on betrayal
>No, you don't get it! The ONLY way to show Peter is smart is for him to develop the ONE power that actually makes him properly spider-themed on his own! That spider that bit him? Just gave him everything except the one thing that makes spiders unique!
>>152952965he became spider-man because he was bit by a spider, that’s why he’s a totem. I don’t see the issue.
>>152953018This, but unironically
Superman>flight (not the power of a man)>laser eyes (not the power of a man)>freezing breath (not the power of a man)>xray vision (not the power of a man) HMMMMMMMMMMMMM, this is retarded pedant shit nobody complains about Superman being able to do shit that regular people can do.
>>152953001The arguments in favor of web shooters aren't any less retarded, as this thread proves. It's ultimately a very minor detail that doesn't really matter either way, and it's dumb to act like one option is meaningfully superior to the other.
>>152953001Are you suggesting that 3.5 is somehow more simple than 4.0 or 5.0 or are you talking about 3.5 compared to other non D&D systems from its contemporaries?
He will be eventually, as marvel continues to lose what little market and relevancy they had and get more desperate for stunts.
Mechancal webshooters will never go away. After all, they make for neat toys.
Spider-Man should mutate into some kind of Man-Spider, just saying.
Cry more noob. Spider-Man should've had organic webs from the beginning. Steve Ditko is a hack.
>>152950247He should have organic webs too, but they come out of the spinnerettes located near his anus, so he developed the mechanical web-shooters out of embarrassment.
>>152950309He was mutated by the spider bite.
>>152950247>Spider-Man isn't a mutant. He was bitten by a mutant spider. Does that not make him a mutant?
>>152951901Spidey's intelligence is practically a second super power and it's even more inconsistent than his super strength and spider-sense.
>>152953074>That's why he's a totem fucking kek look at this faggot
>>152953120Spiderman should shoot webs out of his eyes.
Did the spider that bit Spiderman have a spider totem?
Since Spiderman's powers are only tangentially related to Spiders it makes me wonder what would happen if another radioactive insect/arachnid bit him? Something like:>Bee bites him >Can sting people >But only with a knife >But he has the power to control flowers because a pheromone that comes out his fingers like pollenSomeone probabaly has actual creative good idea I cant think of shit.
>>152955763Being a mutant is a birth defect.
>>152950247>Spiderman should just be Tony Stark without the endless money who arbitrarily decided to design mechanical spider powers instead of something more practical
>>152956195Who are you quoting?
>>152955763Radioactive spider, might as well say Hulk is a mutant too.
Spiderman with web shooters is like the flash using mechanical shoes to run fast
>>152955763Human mutate.
