New OP for a new update
Bitch get yo nasty hands out of his fucking ribs, damn
Website comment:>Struck a nerve~>~AshleyPatreon comment:>I think everyone figured this out long ago but Duane just clued into it. Nora used to be much more kawaii and bright-eyed.>Mr Giz still thinks she's cute though :3
>>152951548Well, that explains where any sort of counterattack to the Aldish retreat went.And most of the Gold riders went down attacking the shrine-city and capital.
>excited to collaborate with Foi-Hellick>collaborate
>>152951548She knows Tainish. Does she know the specific interaction, or lack thereof; thst Golds have with the Dhammakhert, and thus the Etalarche? Is she treating him like a person because he's a Gold. Or is she unconsciously realizing some disturbing thjngs about personhood in general?
>>152951678I mean, the soud were the dudes trying to rape and pillage the shrine there. They might not be affected by the etalarche specifically but there's little reason to think she'd give them a carveout.
>>152951583He's even blushing like he has a schoolboy crush. What a pure heart buried in that fridge of a body.
>>152951678>Is she treating him like a person because he's a GoldPerhaps but she did just call him an automaton. Perhaps she considers him now no better than non gold alds in his current state. Or maybe even things this confirms her beliefs and that Alds just figured our how tot make the Dammakhert to pour their bullshit into a corpse.
>Duane is an Automaton just like his countrymenFunny
>>152951636he did consent though.
mr giz was a little twink back in his day
>>152951999The plan was made before he even knew about it
Guess Brawny Leg really likes a gal who's not afraid to get her hands dirty.>>152951898Honestly, I get the impression she fully accepts he's a whole man in terms of the plod thing. She just doesn't think Alds are human. If he wasn't an Aldish plod, she'd quite possibly be willing to consider him an equal.
>>152951548I could have protected her smile.
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>>152952165It's way past time to accept that the queen didn't force him to do it man
>>152951548Why is she wearing a white glove in panel 6 but the same hand is clearly brown in panel 7?
>>152953424The gloves are part of her younger selfs outfit in that scene, she's having a little flashback.
>>152953424He's seeing her as her younger self; you'll notice her entire head is different, not just her glove
>damn bitch, u uglier than me, and I'm DEADDid Nora REALLY get got by that one?
>>152951548Oh Nora, he can't even FEEL that. You really should leave interrogation to people who know what they're doing.
I think Seeing a bunch of Ald loyalist go ape shit over a traitor.probably wouldn't have done much to her. However Vampire ass, he was fully on their side, dedicated his life to taking down Alderode, and was the supposed lover of Roger. Yet when the ward when down he was ready to kill Roger on the spot. Even if you did think Alds were people that would forever cast doubt on if they can be trusted. Even if you destroy the Dammakhert hubs they don't have to be in it for that shit to be triggered. Every non soud is a potential sleep agent. hell maybe even souds since it apparently sees souds born in the Damma as different from souds born outside.
>>152951548>get in an argument with a dead guy>lose
>>152951548I don't really get the emotional progression here>Hey I know you, you were there when that one gay guy killed his boyfriend>UHHHHHHHHHH ALL YOU ALDS AREN'T HUMAN ACTUALLYIs it because I'm not a woman
>>152954149bitch got called out
>>152953788In a way, Nora is right about Alds being automatons. However, handwaving everything Vampire and Roger did to change the system, Duane, even Quigs (and she'll never know the latter beat the Etalarche), limits her as a both a scientist and a person. Her research will never have the success it could have had because she carries such huge biases.
>>152954149She’s being reminded of the day she watched the Etalarche curse activate- the thing that convinced her Alds aren’t really human. She watched lovers attack and kill each other, saw a kid go crazy, and most likely had a hell of a time fighting her way through the mass of crazy, suicidal Aldish soldiers that tried to keep them from returning to Cresce. She’s being being reminded of one of the worst days of her life
>>152954149It's probably the autism
>>152951548Brawny Leg Giz feels weird in starting as this hard-headed sarky Sharte and turning into an /r9k/ poster.
>>152951548Calling a woman "sow" is never going to help your case, Duane. I'm surprised Leysa didn't tell you this
Ultimately you have to understand Nora Pris is a fujo.A fujoshi. All the pymary and construct research and plotting are just secondary, subverted passions to her love of BL Yaoi is her sun, the (metaphorical) seme to the uke moon of her soul. But her OTP... was Roger and Mallory. And Alderode killed them, Alderode destroyed their love. So Alderode must die.
>>152955030Yeah but Nora clearly has piglike features
>>152951548Cool it with the anti-semitism, Ashley...
>>152955030No, calling her a sow is perfect because she wasn't expecting that, and now she starting to crash out in front of all of the plod experts. You just know she was expecting a "bitch" or two or even "geffi".
>>152955257Duane confirmed fatphobic.
I don’t think “Sow” is what got to her, Nora expects insults and sexism. It’s the reminder of one of the most terrifying moments of her life that got to her— and Duane is telling her that he got to see it all unfold, and that he finds it amusing.Watching previously sane people go totally apeshit will wreck your perception. Like she said, it was an awakening for her. It was the day she realized Alds could not truly be trusted, negotiated or compromised with.
>I'm real and also I was there and I saw what shit you did>why is nora freaking out
>>152954149She assumes Alds are fully programmable by the dammakhert and any personhood beyond that is a facade. She's not correct, ant Etelarche can't be used that way, but it is heavily implied that the prior queen's plan, and now Sonorie's, was to iterate on Etelarche to create mind control and force peace through it. Nora would end up creating what she already believes exists.A moot point now, since the soul map is lost and the engineers who would have made use of it to modify the curse are dead from Sessine's spiteful tantrum. They would have to start all over again.
>>152955871>but it is heavily implied that the prior queen's plan, and now Sonorie's, was to iterate on Etelarche to create mind control and force peace through it. Nora would end up creating what she already believes exists.To someone like Nora, the fact that such a thing is possible (or at least she believes it to be possible) is the same thing as it already being true. Alds can have their free will taken from them. If so, their free will was always a facade. Things are not changed, only revealed for what they always were.
>>152951548You really shouldn't have mentioned the other Soud was your brother, Duane, lest she check to see what prisoners she might have.
>>152956105She already knows he has a brother from his journal. She mentioned him a few pages ago. She just didn't realize they had met years ago.I doubt she made the connection with Lem either. He's just a POW.
>>152956233>He's just a POW.She's already hinted that she's going to "introduce" Duane to another prisoner. She is probably going to feed lemon to him when he goes into his nightly feral state, and yeah, knowing full well it's his brother.
>>152956432>She is probably going to feed lemon to himAnd now he has a tongue to taste it and a mouth to feel the texture.
>>152951548This sow just got BTFO by a true son of Alderode. Also Duane just proved that he is a real human being right there.
>>152955030>Calling a woman "sow" is never going to help your case, Duane. I'm surprised Leysa didn't tell you thisQuigley used it as a term of endearment with his waifu, Alds do things differently
>>152956432Cope mentioned she does something worse than torture and be mean at the end of this scene. I expect that it involves feeding Duane a prisoner. It probably won't be Lemuel (because that makes certain events we know are coming entirely impossible), but it may be a Soud.
>>152956521I mean they also used to beat the shit out of each other
>>152956432That would be downright unhinged of her.
>>152956605>I expect that it involves feeding Duane a prisoner...Is Mason going to be with Ssael forever?
>>152957160Mason should have lived to lead the Ssaelit reformation after his prophetic encounter. But unfortunately he is proper dead now.Or fortunately, because science bitch can't feed him to Duane.
>>152957160He already is. Bird plods got him. I already think the odds of Duane cooperating with Sonorie are very low, worse if Nora feeds him a prisoner, nonexistent if it's someone he knows, a child, or a Plat child.And they almost certainly WILL need his cooperation. Whatever half assed work around this rabble of rented necromancers manages to put a leash on him, Sette has unbreakable administrative access.
>>152951548>copies Vienne's field spreader>tries to copy Alderode's etelarche >copying Duane's justifications for murder nowCome up with an idea of your own, Erm!
>>152957195>because science bitch can't feed him to Duane.wishful thinking, but at least she can't make Duane eat him alive
>>152957296Lemuel was intact last we saw him, not scraps yet.
>>152957309or as intact as you can be when foreign soldiers are taking bets as to how much liquid pain they can shove up your dick
>>152957309>yet
>>152957322Every time I see the pain can I think of the Cenobites from Hellraiser and how they'd consider this method a cheap and uninspired way to inflict pain and try to destroy it on principle.
>>152957397"Where is the artistry in this? Kids these days only care about instant suffering, they haven't learned the value of an honest day's torture."
>>152957505Cans! Can you imagine? Mass-produced, pasteurized agony, squeezed from some sad little factory floor where the screams are all synthetic and the hooks come pre-lubricated with regret. They grab a Beadman pain can: lukewarm, fizzing torment with artificial aftertaste. No depth. No soul. Just... convenient pain. Accessible Agony for the wrong sort of wrightBut at Cenobite Farms, we do things the old-fashioned way.Our pain is free-range.That's right. Our exquisite suffering wanders vast, gothic pastures of rusted chains and weeping flesh, under the eternal twilight of a sky that has never known mercy. Our flesh harvests—hand-selected, leather-clad, and beautifully pierced—roam free, exploring the furthest reaches of sensation without a single additive. No mass produced, uninspired sorrow. No muted horror harvested from another Sharte orphan. Just pure, organic, artisan agony... carved out with the utmost care by our devoted order of the Gash.
>>152957296Why did they leave a shoe on
>>152957397It's like showing an Italian chef canned bolognese sauce
>>152957397What's more, it's a shameless waste of pymaric resources. Granted, it's efficient because it's pure pain. But if pure efficiency was what you wanted, just use fire! No one has secrets from flame.
>>152958262You can only wrap someone's testicles in paper and set them on fire once. Maybe twice.
>>152958333>You can only wrap someone's testicles in paper and set them on fire once. Maybe twice.But you can take the testicles from a dozen dead men, connect them all to someones system like they did Duane's new face, and set them all on fire at once. Then replace them with a new set to do it again. A properly motivated wright could literally build a perpetual motion testicle burning device
>>152958430The khert accounts for you having all your limbs and face meats so prosthetics can plug into place neatly, I don't know if scientists have cracked giving a dude 30 testes
>>152957296Anyone notice there’s TWO sets of feet there?
>>152960345>Nora gives duane the seven bagina treatment IMAGINE
>>152958333You don't want to be that crude when using fire. You work your way up to doing serious damage. And testicles are always late game. The threat of emasculation is more powerful than the actual emasculation.You'll never get anything from a man that they held back through emasculation.
>>152960345better safe than sorry in case one grows wrong
lol at the ask wondering what Duane could say to convince Nora. Neither one of these two want to convince the other of anything. They're getting EXACTLY what they want out of each other. Besides, you know, an ignominious death.
>>152961352>You don't want to be that crude when using fireFire is not famously a refined thingPeople have been torturing each other for thousands of years, we've developed all kinds of specialised implements for it, no self respecting inquisitor or board of punishments officer is going to just have a go at you with fire
>>152961451>They're getting EXACTLY what they want out of each other.sex
>>152957629The concentrated pain is specifically sharpest agony. The Cenobites would hate it because it involves no artistry, but it's not ineffective or in any way lukewarm. It truly is painslop too: harvested from real broken hearts, ripped nerves and torture aficionados but then self-replicated, because you can leech the memories created in one canned torture session - eventually - into your new distillation. Infinite canned torture, pulled spread into and re-pulled from the khert, forever.
Do Americans really?
>>152962627Do Americans really what? Be more specific.
>>152962627ash is 45?I need her to dom me
>>152962627I didn't realize Cope was this based
If Ssael killed the gods then why does Baelar's pymary still work, checkmate moultens
>>152962988Yeah Ashley has been an auntie for years. Practically a grandma.
>>152962627Many of us still do.>>152963104Were you a fetus when 9/11 happened? I was just in jr. high and even I can remember the fury. Pretty much real-life Etelarche the likes of which I have no comparison since nor before, since I wasn't around for what, Pearl Harbor?
>>152963403I think that was just a US thing dude.
>>152962592I feel about that the same way I feel about e.g. Star Trek's there are five lights - if it's just pain with no damage, I suspect it's quite a lot easier to resist than if they start slicing bits off you. I guess less so the longer it goes on, but they aren't AM either, there's only a certain workable space for this stuff.
>>152963515No shit.
>>152963403>>152963515I was just past the cusp of political awareness at the time and there was a general strong sympathy towards the US (shortly squandered), but "real-life Etelarche" does not reflect well on your country my man
>>152963775I don't really care, personally.
>>152964052Well yeah, most don't. Did I ambush my local reps and demand they stop being evil shits? No I did not.
>>152962627I didn't know she was that fucking old.
>>152957629Criminally underrated post
>>152955181that blacklisted video is already forgotten
>>152963775No one’s admitting it as a point of pride. We’re just stating a fact. This was a formative part of a lot of our upbringing and for many of us, it took years to grow out of our knee-jerk hate and fear.We’re not the only country with this reaction in our history— it’s a human experience, not an American one. It’s just that for most Americans born before 1995, this was the most recent event for them— Ashley Cope included among that number.
>>152963775If you don't think your country has similar shit it its history you probably just don't know your history very wellLook up how Argentinians feel about the Falklands.
>>152964273That's why we went from 3 books to 2. Part 1 took 15 years/
>>152963515Tell me you're a zoomer without telling me you're a zoomer. It's sad how we went from 9/11, the Bali bombings, London bombings, attacks in France to just... importing millions of the fuckers for some reason.
>>152966689>we
roger foi hellick being osama bin laden, the young noble-family scion fighting a doomed war against the world's greatest empire actually makes a lot of sense
>>152966689It's called the consequences of your actions since the Iraq war displaced so many people they came to turkey which started to migrate them to the rest of the EU so they wouldn't have to deal with the burden. It all traces back to Bush.
>>152966689I’m not a zoomer and 9/11 was not my introduction to Islam nor did everyone in my country want to nuke all muzzies afterwards. Tell me you’re American without telling me you’re American.
>>152966281No, my country is too tiny and podunk for that kind of thing, if we started shit we'd get our teeth kicked in.
>>152966689>for some reasonPolitical instability and refugee crises owing largely to Western map-drawing and constant incorrigible meddling, with a chaser of man-made environmental change (the Syrian war shortly followed after a milllion or more farmers moved towards the urban areas as a result of unprecedented drought). Fundamentalist Islam can get fucked, but I'm bored of people pretending we, Europe and the USA, didn't stick our dick in crazy.
>>152966689I was 10 when 9/11 happened and it's a US thing. Brother, most of the EU still thinks it was an inside job (no shit) it's only you guys that think it wasn't.
>>152968200>it was an inside jobIt was Martians. Only reasonable explanation. Do you think it's a coincidence Mars is the star of war? Europe full well knows this, you're the one denying the obvious.
>>152968329whatever lets you sleep at night.
>>152968410I don't sleep at night, that's when their air looms are active. Notice you never see Mars in daytime? Sleep at day, friend. They start with the smart ones but they'll work their way down to you eventually.
