Nobody talks about the fact that genetically enhanced hyper-intelligent Jonathan Brisby was basically taking advantage of a normal girl-mouse. It's like if you hooked up with a person with Down syndrome.
>>152960092Yeah, I've been thinking about this for a long time. Although it seems like normal animals are already pretty intelligent in the NIHM universe. Mrs. Brisby managed to learn how to read, even she was worse at it than her kids.
>>152960092I THINK someone made a comic of Jonathan fucking regular mousebrained Miss Brisby
Nobody talks about the fact that this normal low-iq girl-mouse was eager to cuck her husband 10 minutes after his death.
>>152960202Mice dont live for long. Every minute without a partner is a minute wasted.Is miss Brisby a rat or a mouse? I always mix up the two
>>152960202>cuck her husband 10 minutes after his death.
>>152960172I don’t really understand how animals are supposed to work in SOM. The shrew wears clothes, and the owl selectively is nice to animals it eats (he doesn’t immediately chomp Mrs brisby before he knows who she is)
>>152960092okay first of all, the fact that it worked at all, the fact that she's able to do what she can, strongly establishes from the start that mice and rats are sentient. They're all people. This is just like an average person married to a genius. The very first guy to ever figure out reading was married to a woman who couldn't.this idea that anyone below you is "being taken advantage of" is some of the kookiest 2020s bullshit in a long line of it.secondly? What's the alternative, only nimh-mice stay with other nimh-mice? Oh that's SUPER healthy. just intense inbreeding. Do you want Pinky and the Brain? because that's how you get Pinky and the Brain.
>>152960202what are you talking about?>>152960277they definitely don't have clothes in the book.. right?
>>152960316>they definitely don't have clothes in the book.. right?I don't think they did. Bluth just likes to draw clothes on the furry animal characters in his movies. It confuses some things in this particular movie, though. Makes it harder to tell that the NIMH rats are supposed to be different from all the other animals.
>>152960248Mrs. Brisby, her husband, children, and Mr. Ages are mice. The other characters are rats.
I am getting really sick of the permanently offended trying to find any detail to call everything problematic.Equality doesn't exist. Get over it.
>>152960092She learned how to read and clearly is able to think and reason. It's like a PhD marrying an intelligent high school dropout who never got a chance to pursue higher education.
>>152960262At least let the corpse get cold first!
>>152960092Or like marrying someone from Alabama
>>152960092>Not realizing how joyful life is when you date a simple plain girl who follows your lead and relies on you because she's much more limited than you in ability and intelligence.Jonathon was smart enough to know that dating a hyper intelligent NIMH rat girl would've been misery.
Why are we referring to her as a low intelligent girl as if there's an opposite?
>>152961424I always assumed as a kid that the rats had started to develop psychic powers from the hyper intelligence experiments done on them by NIMH. It appears to be magic because we get the film from Brisby's perspective, but it's actually a telekinetic energy. Nicodemus can follow Mrs. Brisby through a lens, he can write in the book with psychic force, he summons his staff to him, when Brisby opens the door she's met with an unleashed psychic energy emenating from Nichodemus himself. The amulet is a store of Jonathon's psychic essence, Mrs.Brisby channels her will through the amulet into the rope and telekineticly lifts the home out of the mud, the force is so strong it burns her hands because she's not psychic herself, so the power is borrowed. Secret of NIMH always felt ike something closer to Akira to me.
>>152960924Hicks living rent-free in your mind lmao
>>152960199lol...I think I have it
>>152960092Hey man his options were limited. If you got a super enhanced human brain in a freak experiment, are you telling me you'd stay celibate? You wouldn't use your superior mind to pick up dumbass human chicks?
>>152960316>>152960404Ms. Frisby wore a cape in the book, just like she did in the movie.
>>152960092I like how you pretend to be offended by some idea in a movie (when you're not) just to have engagement bait-y OP. Well, I replied. Happy?
>>152960404plus like, "Brisby" has to remove her cloak to run around in the kitchen so humans don't discover animals have clothes, because that would ruin everything about the premise.god, that will never stop pissing me off. It's Frisby, dammit. Wham-O does not own "Frisbee", they literally started selling "Frisbees" because people were throwing pie plates around, from the Frisby Pie Company. If anyone stole the name, YOU did.
>>152960092I picked up on that power differential immediatly.
>>152960480i'm pretty sure most of what we hear over here now is trolling, often from bots, but still yeah>>152961781the movie is definitely leaning that way.
>>152962050Huh, did not rememberGood book
>>152962515Do NOT read the other 2. Hot garbage.
>>152962050I don't have a copy of the book, but in the concept art of the film she wore more humanlike clothes at one point. Bluth mentions that they purposely made the cape look gnarly to give it an imperfect characteristic. Also, the cape wasn't always going to be red, but red just works really well for some reason. Red amulet, red cape. Red is a very natural extension of browns and oranges but more striking and extreme.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhAAihplm9g
>>152960092Nice try anon, but you can't ruin The Secret of NIMH for me. Pic related already did
>>152963919I love this comic insinuating that she came so hard that she became sentient.
>>152964147also jonathan's mutant semen injections literally fucking intelligence into her
>>152960092why would that be "taking advantage of"? what's bad about this?
>>152960301>The very first guy to ever figure out reading was married to a woman who couldn't.Not how that happened
>>152963800what the fuck happened to brisby
>>152960202>>152960262>Even after I die, I want to be at the front of her mind for a while! Ten minutes, at least!
>>152964957She got a couple years older.
>>152965037okay, why are her proportions all fucked? why's everyone's proportions all fucked now that i look at them
>>152964206How connected is her mouse pussy to her brain that getting creampied instantly grants her intelligence?
>>152965363It’s not his cum, it’s her clitoris
>>152965381New question then: how good at sex is Jonathan that this orgasm rewired her entire brain?
Mature Brisby was the only good thing about the sequel.
>>152960092Presumably he infected her whatever genome or virus made them intelligent when they mated.
>>152966145But the other animals are intelligent too, so it can't be just that
>>152966232
>>152965952i would agree if it looked like brisby, but it instread looked like animal skin wrapped around a person. art direction in that movie was fucked just as hard as the story
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>>152966782The idea of it being brought to light is all that really matters.
>>152966782direct-to-home animated movies have less time and money put into them and it really shows especially when the theatrical movie before has such a distinct and well done style
>>152960092I remember there was a very brief window of time in my life two years ago where I exclusively jacked off to porn of Ms Brisby as a way of dealing with immense stress
>>152963800>>152965952Absolute GILF!
>>152966923are you me?
>>152961781Don Bluth x Akira weeb shit wasn't on my 2026 bingo card, Anon....
>>152968139Psychic powers are a really, really common theme in sci-fi. The story of Akira is essentially not too different from Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, but with a lot of post-WW2 sensibilities and worries. Secret of Nimh is like that too, and it was obviously written during the Cold War, with how it's concerned with secret government experiments.
>>152964957>first film: passion project made by ex-Disney staff with the specific intent of making the best thing they could. Scenes have a sense of style, authorship, craftsmanship>second film: direct-to-video sequel made (almost) 20 years later, with none of the original people involved, animated by Wang FilmIt's almost pointless to talk about something so mediocre.
>>152964363Obviously the first man who could read, taught his wife, so she could read all the smut he was writing. His wife upon learning how to read, then went on to begin writing her own books, inventing the concept of warewolf fetishism, beastiality, BDSM and the furry fandom for her own stories. This civilization later inspired Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt.
>>152960092>any difference in power dynamic means one party must be taking advantage of the other>all whites are born with privilege, therefore whites should not racemix>all rich people should not mingle with the poorTime and time again, the horseshoe theory proves accurate.
>>152963919We really need a place that has all of these.
>>152968648Same happened to American Tail. I don’t care that /co/ like Fievel Goes West.
>>152968815At least Fievel Goes West has really, really fucking good animation made by the people that would eventually go on to do Prince of Egypt
>>152960092Johnathan and Mr Ages were the only genetically modified mice to survive. It was either fuck a wild mouse, or fuck no one.
>>152969046>Johnathan and Mr Ages were the only genetically modified mice to survive. It was either fuck a wild mouse, or fuck no one.I feel like there's an obvious solution here that you're not seeing.
>>152969063Using their superior intellect to start their own laboratory. Genetically engineer smarter and larger mice until they can live side by side with humanity as equals?
>>152969063John wanted kids, so gay secks is not the answer.
>>152966232Maybe the virus is contagious and we're seeing the beginning of a planet of the apes style situation?
>>152968798It's very rare a kids movie nowadays has these kind of dark implications., that reminds you that these characters are indeed animals.
>>152965952Sauce, please?
>>152963919post that pic of jonathan showing brisby the difference between mating and making love
>>152970387i don't think there are any implications that suggest infanticide. you could reach and say every kid is the sole survivor of their litter, but even that could be that they just died of something else, or that the nimh virus makes them more human in the rate that they have kids, or that the authors just didn't think of that and 44 years of no new brisby just does that to a mf
>>152960199>>152961952Are these the ones you are talking about or are there different ones?>>152963919>>152968798>>152966346
>>152970877It's AI you dipshit
>that part where she hears about her dead husband's heroism>you can tell she's incredibly proud of him;_;
>>152973531>still drools over the first male mouse she sees
I think it's possible that whatever causes intelligence in the NIMH setting has already "leaked" by the time the story has occurred.
>>152973668that's probably why the scientists want to catch them so badly
>>152973614That was a rat.
>>152973668Mouse and rat Cum are leaking! Super intelligence spreading! Big hard throbbing rat cocks pumping semen real thick real deep! Ram Ranch is Evolving!Animals Ascending, getting real smart. Rat cum soaking into the ground water! Mutating Animals to be real intelligent. Even psychic! Ram Ranch about to become an Animal Farm!
>>152962515One problem I had with the book is how a third of it is an exposition dump about the rats. Like, it's interesting, if you're a fan of the movie, but kills the pacing. The movie manages to condense that to about two minutes. The ending is also a mess, where the book just skims through the move and makes the rats' escape the climax. Not a bad read, but it isn't well-focused.>>152962712I haven't finished the second one, but I kind of like the relationship Racso and Timmy have.
>>152962730>top left That is so cute. I bet Jonathan made that for her.
>>152962712there were other BOOKS?
>>152964363howmst the fuck do you know? were you there?That's assuming they even let women read back then.>>152964957Mice live two years.
>>152964957aged like a fine wine
>>152968648>almost 20 years later that can't be right. the original was 80s, and I watched the sequel in the 90s as a kid.
>>152968695exactly.I'm having my daughter catch up on shows so she can understand the fanfic smut I've made. she is wonderful.>>152968798do mice eat litters for being too small? i thought they did it when they were too big.
>>152968815I dont understand how people think the flaws of the sequel are not present in the first, in exactly the same proportion.>>152970387I mean that's probably why tv shows never have "SIDS" (that is, the mom went nuts)
>>152973614>>152973846That wasn't drooling, that was feeling like a child because there's another species that is "basically you, but bigger and smarter" and this is the hyper-intelligent VERSION of that. she was following him like a little girl, not going googoo.
>>152974175That was my favorite part actually. but I can see why you might not dig that. For me, especially as a kid, that was the POINT of books. A book can tell a 100-page story in 300 pages because it gave us more info that we might wanna know. The ending.. felt realistic to me, but yeah it wasn't entirely satisfying. kids books at the time often weren't.
>>152968798I save mice in no-kill traps around the house. One time I ended up catching a pregnant one that gave birth. I didn't have a chance to set them out until later, so I tried to keep the mom hydrated and fed until I could figure out what to do with themBy the time I came back she had eaten her 3 young.
>>152974293>I'm having my daughter catch up on shows so she can understand the fanfic smut I've madeFrom what I'm understanding here, one or both of you should be experiencing fatal levels of embarrassment?
>>152973614How long, specifically, do you think she should've mourned for ?
>>152974350now yeah that is when that happens, because she felt she was in danger.>>152974361nope she is great. She even helped read some of my original stuff so I could see if it resonated with the female audience. Loved it. her husband is a lucky man.
>>152974404out of morbid curiosity what do you write?
>>152974561actually we're talking about comics here. I probably shouldn't say more on /co/, /co/ has a habit of being kinda fucked in the head if they have a target. But if you read porn comics, that kinda thing.
>>152974284The first film is from the early 80's, the 2nd is from the late 90's. It's almost 20 years (16 to be exact)
Nimh was scarier than Watership Down. It surprises me that even the depths of /co/'s furry depravity can still sexualize it, considering just how unnerving it is.
>>152974659>late 90sthat... can't be right. I was born in '85.. i was definitely a KID when 2 came out. it was a contemporary of that one movie, what was it, once upon a forest? with the weirdly cute badger kids.
>>152966346i need a prequel about jon and justin slutting aound in the name of uplifting
>>152975037that is how rodents do
>>152966923I don't blame ya. Seeing her thighs in profile always made me feel funny.
>>152960092Secret of NIMH takes place in the same universe for Flowers for Algernon
>>152960092If it hadn't been for you, I would be now in someone else's digestion
>>152974691I find her PLATONICALLY sexy, and that's it. I respect that they made her cute and beautiful, but I'm not fucking gooing to weird deviantart shit over this film. I think we can like her without it being weird.
post thet really sweet one that the jannies unreasonably hate
>what if mrs brisby was a big rat instead
>>152975897i'll pick up your slack then
God I wish mice were real
>>152960092She has such PRETTY eyes~
Anon, no, this is a blue board!
>>152978605>That blood splatter.What is this a Kurosawa film
>>152965456No you don’t get it, he found it. That is the myth in and of itself
>>152960301>The very first guy to ever figure out reading was married to a woman who couldn't.Nobody tell him.
