One of the greatest comic book writers ever and yet /co/ hates him for some reason.
>>152970743Sure thing, faggot.
as long as you dont use twitter hes a pretty chill guy
>>152970755seethe harder, republican
>>152970773Ok, tranny
>>152970828its ma'am!
>>152970743Here's just some of the messed up things Mark Waid has done>Sent dead flowers to the funeral of a rivals (Mark Alessi's) wife.>Mocked said rival to his face calling him a loser after the Cross Gen Imprint went under>Destroyed his office in a fit of rage when he got vetoed on a story decision>Punched five holes in the wall and destroyed all his Marvel and DC toys>Got a conservative comic book writer fired from Antarctic Press for making an edgy joke about Waid >Got Chuck Dixon blacklisted from DC and Marvel for the crime of voting for Donald Trump. >Called a black comic creator Tee Franklin the N-word several times, and got away with it somehow.>A conservative would have been fired for saying it once>Tried and failed to cancel Mark Millar for his religious stance on abortion.>Said he'd rather 'burn the industry to the ground' than work with conservative creators>After trump won a second time he said he could no longer write superheroes because he can 'no longer believe in the inherent good of my fellow american'>Has generally been toxic, mean, cruel, confrontational, and just a general piece of shit to both his fans and fellow comics creators
you have no idea how badly i miss the days when people just shut the fuck up about their beliefs/political leanings. you didnt used to have to know who people whose work you enjoy voted for. you could just enjoy the fucking work. i hate living in this witch hunt us vs them you need to pick a side society. fuck mark zuckerberg fuck tom from myspace
>>152970915>you have no idea how badly i miss the days when people just shut the fuck up about their beliefs/political leaningsYou have no idea. I used to like Pedro Pascal, because he's a good actor.But I can't enjoy anything he makes anymore because he just won't shut up about politics.
wasnt he basically banned from DC for a few decades? what changed?
>>152970915>>152970895Mark Waid has always been like this. This is not from a comic book made in 2016-2020. But something that came out in the 90s.
>>152970973That's news to me.
>>152970895You forgot the most fucked one>fucked Crimson Avenger (alias Lee Travis) Greg Brooks wife, which made Brooks murder her with a hammer in a fit of rage. Then made fun of this with this gag comic that pissed Paul Levitz off so much he made Waid work without pay or do community service for 4 months.
>>152970973Dan and all his supporters at DC all got fired during COVID.
>>152971065Holy Shit. This is the first time i've ever heard of this.
>>152971065*Crimson Avenger *artist* Greg Brooks, Greg Brooks wasn't the literal Crimson Avenger.Though he kinda did avenge himself
>>152971097There was a blogpost that went into it but the writer paywalled it. There's another layer of intrigue in that the wife apparently stole her identity, like the movie Body Heat. Took a high school classmates identity and skipped towns. I think one of the more amusing anecdotes about the situation, according to Chuck Dixon's youtube channel , is that a Marvel editor wanted the artist on Conan the Barbarian, only to be told he was in jail for murdering his cheating wife. To which the editor lamented "Ah what a shame, then he would've been perfect for Conan!"
>>152971203>To which the editor lamented "Ah what a shame, then he would've been perfect for Conan!"That would have gotten him cancelled these days.
>>152971203>Ah what a shame, then he would've been perfect for Conan!"lel
>>152971203>the writer paywalled itHow much of a paywall?
>>152970895>gaslights people he doesn't like to leave superheroes if thier political code doesn't align with theirs >refuses to leave superheroes because liberals lost the culture war and are demanding superheroes be more conservative Just leave Mark, times have changed
>>152971065Glad I've never finished any of this faggot's work. Birthright is reddit shit and Secret Origin mogs it
>>152971330>Birthright is reddit shit and Secret Origin mogs itno need to lie, anon i get it you dislike mark
>>152971324>refuses to leave superheroes because liberals lost the culture warWokes not dead it's hibernating. They'll be right back on their bullshit with shit like turning Supermans son gay, the second Trumps out of office.
>>152971341Nobody that isn't trying to fit in here or reddit likes Birthright.
>>152971567I bought it exclusively for Leinil Yu's art and nothing else.
>>152970743>/co/ hates himLet's be real here the /co/ chuds hate everything especially if it's popular. Ewing Snyder, Aaron, Camp, Hickman doesn't matter who they will hate him.
>>152970743>One of the greatest comic book writers everIf this is true then no wonder manga is kicking the west's ass.
>>152971065It doesn't surprise me at all that Ty Templeton drew this. The man is a prick.
>>152971909I don't think he knew about Waid's Adultery causing a murder.
>>152971723Waid is an objectively shitty person no matter how you slice it. Any other creator who had even just one of the controversies he did would be blacklisted from the big two forever. Like Chuck Dixon or Mike S Miller were.
>>152971986Cry more
>>152972231Go home Waid, your books suck
>>152970743I've read >Kingdom Come>Flash (Born to Run, The Return of Barry Allen)>JLA: Year One (a few issues)>LOSH (a couple issues)>half of Superman: Birthright>a volume of 52>Several volumes of World's Finest >Batman & Robin: Year One I haven't really enjoyed any of them. What's his absolute best comic book work?
>>152971371I mean yeah sure they can, but since Trump has been back in office, DC fell in line and made the the Absolute Line and now are on top. Marvel didn't and now they are struggling hard.
>>152972318I've heard his Daredevil run was ok
>>152972339>made the the Absolute LineThe comic that had Batman violate a bunch of white supremacists instead of an expy for Antifa or BLM?
>>152972353His Daredevil run sucks because it's not what people want from a modern daredevil comic. In the same way nobody wants a goofy Batman comic, nobody wants a Silver Age daredevil comic with pop culture references.
>>152971986>Waid is an objectively shitty personComing from a Trump supporter I take it as a compliment >Like Chuck Dixon or Mike S Miller wereDeserved imo don't know about Miller but Dixon is a fascist
>>152972524>Dixon is a fascistAnd Mark Waid called a black man the N word! Multple times, and got away with it! If racism is worthy of blacklisting when Chuck Dixon does it, it should also be considered just as bad when Mark Waid does it.
>>152972353I love his daredevil run
>>152972562Sauce?
>>152972670Tee Franklin made a youtube video about it called "Dear White Comic Creators your silence is complicity", but has since deleted it. But plenty of other comic book youtubers covered it as the situation was ongoing.It was a case of progressive on progressive violence. We have no proof if Waid actually did it or if she was lying.
>>152972456Very American if I do say so myself. Infinitely better then the mainline run rn. Where Tim retires to get fucked in the ass by his bf
>>152972731>Tee FranklinThat woman should have never wheeled a chair into an office in the first place. Fucking hate that bitch
>>152972827Question is. Why wasn't waid fired or disciplined for his crime? There are people with huge careers who had their entire career destroyed for dropping the N-bomb once in private. But waid drops it multiple times in front of a black creator and faces no consequences at all?
>>152972882Because Waid is an antifa-bootlicker who only got away with it because the comic industry was corrupted by liberals in the 2010's. But now we're in the 2020's and Waid's influence has waned significantly. In time, im sure he will get his karma soon enough.
>>152970743Only miga chuds hate him
>>152972937>im sure he will get his karma soon enough.I doubt it. He's been a Karma Houdini for years, and has too big of an influence and pedigree behind him. He's worth too much money for DC to just kick out.
>>152972966Untrue, I didn't vote Trump and I hate this faggot as well.
>>152970755fpbp kek
>>152972993Idk man, if Bendis and Johns could fall, anyone can regardless of what they made before.
>>152973025Bendis and Johns are still getting work, and unlike waid despite their personal politics, and the quality of their work going up and down, they mostly stay out of controversies. They very rarely step in it.
>>152970895Didn't he partner with a comic book shop owner who was a big fan of his. That is, until Waid conned the owner and got ownership of the shop and gave it to his girlfriend.That resulted in a court case and former owner couldn't talk about the case but his girlfriend wasn't covered by the NDA and told what happened with Waid. In short, Waid is an asshole.
>>152970895>the guy who insists he's more intelligent, more mature, and more insightful than everyone else is a psychotic manchild with an extremely vile personal life and horrendously unprofessional behavior throughout his entire careerI'm shocked. Shocked in that way you get shocked when something completely predictable happens
>>152971723Aaron is popular?
>>152973465He's basically Chris-Chan if he got his shit together, but was still an inherently horrible person.
>>152973497The fact that people know his name makes him popular by comic book standards. Most comic writers are nobodies even to comic fans
>>152973540His name is singlehandedly what's protected Waid from the consequences of his actions.
>>152970895Based, except the N word thing (if true)Conservacucks are all fucking retards slurping rotten old billionaire dong and destroying America
>>152970895This is just bitter comicsgater nonsense. If he throws all these tantrums, there'd be firsthand accounts posted all over social media, but they're not there. He fired the comic store guy for embezzling. It's all fucking faux news comic Nazi nonsense. Waid is fine.
>>152970743All of Waid's best stuff is from like 30 years ago. Everything he has written lately has been mediocre at best, unreadable at worst.
>>152970743His DC work is great but there was a period where his Marvel work was shiiiiit. I lean left and even I think he think was a hack during that time.
>>152973951Less than 30 but yes, he's definitely washed up.Daredevil (first 'run' before Matt moves to SanFran and it gets renumbered)
>>152973934Mark Alessi wasn't part of comicsgate, and he attested in several interviews that Waid was all but abusive to him and other other guys at Crossgen.
I really miss the days when I didn't know anything about the people behind the page outside maybe a sassy letter page
>>152973970worlds finest
>>152974170>>152970944Same. Mark Waid would probably still be a lot more beloved in a universe where the internet never existed.
>>152973886Stfu, tranny
>>152970743He's a degenerate that promotes faggot crap and progressive slop in his media, good riddance to him>>152970759>"A faggot is a good person when he's not being a faggot."Go fuck your mother, anon>>152972966It is morally right to hate Mark Waid
>>152970895>Sent dead flowers to the funeral of a rivals wifealessi claimsthe claim that he took alessi's wife's name in vain is bad enough on its own without you getting a bunch of details wrong to make waid look worse.>rivals implies they were on equal footing - alessi was waid's boss and the head of crossgen>it wasn't her funeral, alessi's wife passed away two years prior to when he claimed the wreath arrived>waid supposedly sent the wreath to alessi after alessi shut down crossgen and left 60 people out of a job (on top of already owing thousands in back pay to its creative staff)>>152974085i have a hard time believing waid was abusive towards alessi during their working relationship. again, alessi had final say at crossgen - why wouldn't he have fired waid's ass immediately instead of keeping him on as a key player for two years?if anything, alessi has the track record for verbal misconduct. in the statement where he claims waid sent him a black wreath, he calls out and insults former employees by name. he also admits to not paying freelancers for their work as crossgen went bankrupt, and tries to write it off as no big deal.
>>152970944>>152974170I still like the work of plenty of people despite finding them to be pieces of shit or hold beliefs at odds with my own.
>>152974650well it's not really a matter of belief. It's just kind of a gigantic asshole thing. I don't care what they believe but some of the shit he pulled is just cruel.
>>152972966I can bet you Waid supports Israel
>>152974671I also included this bit>despite finding them to be pieces of shit
>>152974650same here. some work i enjoy precisely because it's at odds with what i believe. a superhero comic about transformative justice would be pretty boring, even though that's what i ostensibly believe in.
>>152970895Malignant narcissist or average liberal?
>>152970895>>152974631Said he wished the guy who shot at Donald Trump hadn't missed.
>>152974724>calls the shooter an idiot>says the shooting will get trump into officei'm not sure why you're disagreeing with him here
>>152974768The term 'idiot with shitty eyesight' to me says 'if he had better eyesight he wouldn't have missed'.
>>152974768Mark Waid has been the poster child for Trump Derangement syndrome in the mainstream comics industry. Has advocated for 'punching Nazis' (eg. Conservative protestors) IRL. You really think he doesn't want Trump dead?
>>152970895How could you forget>the phone story>being banned from DC for throwing things at Didio>Groth: I didn't pay much attention to Waid's work habits, or to Amazing Heroes. He seemed like he did his job. But one day, I got into the office earlier than I usually did, maybe at 9 or 10, because I probably didn't go to sleep before. So, I'm in my office, which was off the "living room" area of the house where Waid, Joe Sacco, Bob Fiore and a couple others had desks. I couldn't see a silver of that area from where I sat. Tom Heintjes and I share the space, which was long and rectangular, and my line of sight was limited. So, I'm in my office, and suddenly I hear a crash, followed by screaming and sobbing - it sounded like someone was being trashed or mutilated, so I run out into the living room and I see Waid on the floor banging the phone receiver on the ground over and over again and weeping and screaming. I look around me and absolutely no one is paying to this. Joe and Bob are huddled over their typewriters; Dave Olbrich is sitting calmly at his desk. It's as if I'm the only one who witnessing this. I thought maybe I'm hallucinating.>So I scream at Waid, "What the fuck are you doing?" and he looks up, startled, composes himself, picks his phone up, puts it on his desk and sits down. No one says a word. Waid's behavior was unnerving enough, but even more unnerving was everyone's lack of reaction. Later, when Waid had gone to lunch or something, I asked everyone, "What the hell was that about? Why were you all sitting around as if nothing was happening?" They basically told me that went on all the time, but only in the morning before I showed up, so they'd all gotten used to it.
>>152974779'if he had better eyesight he wouldn't have missed' doesn't translate to 'i wish he didn't miss'
>>152974824>>being banned from DC for throwing things at DidioHe did nothing wrong
>>152974824Waid is definitely somewhere on the autism spectrum.
>>152974849If Chuck Dixon had thrown shit at someone he'd have been fired, but Waid gets off without even a slap on the wrist? What?
>>152974602I'm glad I'm not a tranny, because you'd be desperately trying to fuck me >>152974697Ahahaha, no. What an idiot. >>152974631Every time you check the receipts, conservacuck bullshit collapses. It's always lies and distortions. Comicsgater losers stop losing and lying about it challenge: utterly impossible
>>152974859I mean, the most likely explanation is that it didn't happen.
>>152974874Waid having angry outbursts at both fans and critics, both online and IRL has been a recurring thing. I believe it.
>>152974859i don't even know if that's true. big two comics make so little money it's not like there's a financial motivation for them to hold their employees accountable for their ill behaviour. ethan van sciver put out a 'my struggle' sketchbook in 2007 and dc kept him on for another decade>inb4 'that's based'the point is that as long as their staff's conduct isn't at risk of causing a stir in the public eye, neither dc or marvel care about what they believe
>>152975010>neither dc or marvel care about what they believeThen why did Chuck Dixon get blacklisted while Waid still gets work?
>>152975023Cause Didio didn’t like Dixon and he wasn’t a big sales getter at that point anyway. Comic writers have a short shelf life because their styles fall out of fashion most of the time. Someone like Alan Grant, who was a turbo leftwinger, wasn’t getting work in 2000s DC because old fashioned writers or artists fall out of favor Didio was probably a chud and kept around conservatives like Aaron Lopresti without issues for years. Even comicsgate guys like van Sciver don’t really seem to have an issue with Didio, it was DC upper management that gave them issues. Dixon seems to forget he’s an old dog in a market that looks for young blood unless you wrote some big stand alone story that’s evergreen in tons. Dixon never had that, except maybe Knightfall. And that was a group thing.
>>152975103>Dixon never had that, except maybe Knightfall.He only created BANE. A character that has done nothing but print money for DC comics.
>>152975023who knows. shortly after he was fired, he went on record as saying he "[did] not believe it had anything to do with politics", and even did some work for DC here and there as late as 2019.i doubt we'll see him working for dc even in that limited capacity anymore since he threw his hat in with comicsgate - and i don't even necessarily think that's a political choice on dc's part. cg is a failed movement with bad optics, and hiring on someone who's a part of it is basically welcoming a huge backlash
>>152975154forgot to post my source on that quote lol, it's archived from his old messageboard:https://web.archive.org/web/20080617174832/http://dixonverse.net/board/read.php?2,6519
>>152975154>i doubt we'll see him working for dc even in that limited capacity anymoreProbably not considering he went all in on the Rippaverse. For better or worse.
>>152975331Yknow, good for Dixon, regardless of what happens with the Rippaverse, dude is making bank.
>>152974827It's reading in between the lines anon, Waid is not completely stupid, but if he was smart enough he wouldn't have even commented on the subject. He may have said what he said, but we all know what he really wanted to say, but he knows he couldn't
>>152975134The big two don't care about what characters you create unless you did it in a nice tidy TPB with art that looks modern enough they can sell in perpetuity. I do think Dixon's earned his place in the Batman pantheon, same with Grant and Moench, but the unfortunate thing is that none of them have an individual standout book by DC's standards(which is bullshit, because any three of them have better comics than Hush). At least Dixon has Nightwing reprints on his own that will always have to be put out, even if they ignore his BoP a lot.Elliot S! Maggin is another guy who's basically a turbo-lib Democrat, created major characters for DC(Superboy Prime for one) and yet DC probably hasn't called him since the 2000's. I will guarantee a bunch of current editors and writers don't even know who the fuck he is despite having a Superboy Prime book right now. A comic writer is the most disposable part of this medium for better or worse.
>>152970743Isn't it more about how he is a really shitty person, not necessarily a bad writer?
>>152975842He's not a great writer, though.
what if any are the /co/ approved Waid stories?
>>152972318>didnt enjoy Flash (Born to Run, The Return of Barry Allen)you colossal faggot. i like what i read of batman and robin year one only like 3 issues
>>152974862I'd rape you to death, faggot. I could do it so easily.
>>152970743This dude sucks at writing and you gotta be queer to have ever enjoyed any of his gay ass writing. I seriously hope you niggas aren't doing that.
i like birthright
>>152974824This is unironically low functioning autist behavior. I mean I know he's a comic book writer but how do people function and keep jobs when they're this bad
>>152974824>>being banned from DC for throwing things at DidioThat's a little funny
>>152976350Didio should have beat the shit out of him. Mark's a pussy. He probably wouldn't have even hit him back.
You wouldn't think guys whose job it is to make colorful costumed funny books would be such drama babies. It's not even just Waid specifically. Someone's always throwing some kind of tantrum.
>>152974607>"A faggot is a good person when he's not being a faggot.">Go fuck your mother, anoncalm down
>>152976382Nerd rage, they are the worst fanboy stereotypes.
>>152970743I don't hate him, I'm not really that much of a Mark Waid fan. I liked Kingdom Come, but that's about it.
i don't even know who that is
>>152976888Kingdom Come is decent, I feel the similarly about about Mark Millar and Red Son, I really don't like him as a writer but that book is good. I hated the Waid deadpool run, I generally dislike his writing style and he is painfully unfunny.
>>152977717??
>>152977717Mark Millar is like Waid from the mirror universe, he writes some of the darkest edgy comics stories ever written, but is a morally upstanding guy IRL.
>>152970743That Flash run after the adult Bart Flash run plus Waid's twitter activity basically ruined his reputation. Not to mention how fucking unhinged he's been once identity politics spiked up. Dude went all in, even threating to beat the shit out of people.Even if he puts out good comics now, he'll always be a piece of shit to people.
>>152970895I mean waids not wrong here, the fact america tolerates all the bullshit hes done this time is fucking obscene. We as a country should be in mass riot mode 24/7 by now just like we were in the 60s and 70s already for all the stuff that turnip faggot has done, but the fact that the country isnt burning alive means americans truly are cowards and are cuckolds now and forever from this point forward and america as a whole deserves to be nuked and wiped out for is complacency to this shithole government.
>>152970895>Got a conservative comic book writer fired from Antarctic Press for making an edgy joke about Waid >Got Chuck Dixon blacklisted from DC and Marvel for the crime of voting for Donald Trump.Uh, BASED!
>>152971065Jesus Christ, what the fuck.
>>152978386Kys
>>152978448After you. Show me how.
>>152970895He's going to turn out to be a serial killer or a cannibal.
>>152974724I mean we are all paying for the fact that retard kid missed now, so waid was right
>>152978289We'd be better off as a country if your faggot ass was swinging from a rope in your parent's basement, retard.
>>152979132calm down
>>152976333>Guy at Grocery store I used to work at was transferred from another store to ours>No one liked him and he eventually gets transferred to another store>Meanwhile the guy who had been working at our store longer than him was fired because the people at the Delhi department gave him a free piece of chicken finger to eatThere's almost no rhyme or reason for why people get fired, it's like sometimes people will get fired over the smallest thing that doesn't actually matter and other times Management suddenly gets cold feet even though we'd all do with the guy causing issuesThe guy who got transferred was also probably on the spectrum
>>152974801>Has advocated for 'punching NazisCool
