>>152983269Ha, yeah, cheat on your boyfriend to show up yo momma. Also, wow, cue? Sandy sweetie I'm trying to see the best in you. You need Mike to be honest with you, not validate you. You're also the one talking your ass off, not listening to him.
>>152983269"Yeah mom! It's your fault I fucked Geoffrey this time!"Sandy is one deranged slur holy shit. She's gonna fuck Geoffrey next isn't she? It's like the forbidden fruit, she can't stop having affairs. Even more fucking insane she's spouting all of this to the boyfriend she cheated on, the one she insisted she couldn't live without.
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>>152983269Truly the most wicked and despicable of cats the way he>checks notessupports his girlfriend of questionable intelligence and morals after giving her a second chance.
>>152983269Make sure to DMCA this thread
>>152983302What is it with girls in this comic and jumping right to cheating as a go-to solution? I thought Jess was a weird anomaly but now Sandy is mulling it over too.
Man, taeshi really sunk Sandy's character deeper than the Titanic huh?
>>152983269Why is Taeshi making Sandy so cartoonishly selfish, self-centered and oblivious?I mean, I don't like her, but I feel like you should give a character a fair trial, instead of going out of your way to say 'SEE SEE SHES BAD, LUCY GOOD, MIKE IS DUMB FOR PICKING HER'.
>>152983269Sandy fucks hobos just to piss off her mom
>>152983269Sandy won't achieve a healthy relationship by making Mike tell her what she wants to hear, if she wants to feel trusted she needs to take actions proving she can be.>>152983302A bit obliviously insensitive on her part but she's not claiming to want to, she just thinks of how cool it would be to show up her mom doing that. At least she's being open about that desire to Mike. Maybe she hopes (or expects) Mike won't judge her for it. But yeah, this isn't something she should be venting to Mike, much less expecting him to agree with after what she did. But she's saying it with causation.Her mom's a vicarious asshole so it's understandable why she would feel that frustrated with her.
>>152983415Dunno. Eternal Flame really was a nonsensical shit show. Both white cats are shit and he should ditch both, but then we'd have no plot.
>>152983415I think this was discussed in the other thread(threads?)Tae is venting over some girl, I think.It was a long time since I got into the lore of it so I've forgotten most of it.
>>152983391I know she's being naive and inconsiderate. But Lucy is actively ruining Mike's social life with little effort. Sandy's not trying to hurt Mike but clearly can't see how her words are anyway.>>152983365I think they want to hurt someone who wronged them, Sandy in this case just wants to hurt her mom for the work pressure.
Hi Oliver!Since I know you're stuck staring at this thread all day looking for shit to DMCA I want you to know it's not too late to do something with your life besides listen to your insane wife cry about her poisoned womb while draw this infantile bullshit for the next 30 years (or until the voices in her head finally win and she walks into speeding traffic), get out of there while you still can my dude
>>152983476Mike, Lucy, and Sandy are loosely inspired by Goldie, whom Oliver cheated on Veronica with in high school. But it's arguably different, the core conflict is that Lucy abused Mike and that can't compare. There's no mention of Veronica abusing Oliver. But allegedly Goldie made Oliver happier at the time similarly to how Sandy is with Mike while Lucy pushed him to his dark, abuse trivialized, depression.
>>152983454I agree. Mike should've dumped Sandy during EF, made peace with Lucy, but then proceed to live his life away from engaging romantically with either of them ever again.In the mean time, he should probably find some new friends, the 'friend' table sucks ass. Ignore James as well, he's a cunt.
>>152983497I'd actually love any thread about my stories/art regardless of what's discussed so the same probably goes for him. Maybe the DMCA parts are just petty on his part.
>>152983505James was tricked but too ignorantly dismissive, I know he was mislead by Augustus into thinking that Mike will date a girl while lusting over another after rejecting her, but Augustus deliberately left out that Lucy was abusive.James is still a lovestruck Mike simp deep down, but he was just way too easily trusting of Augustus to even question the context of why Mike screamed at Lucy so hard that she tried to kill herself, that doesn't happen over nothing. Maybe it's cause Mike got his balls kicked since he was two. But what do we know? Wucy is just a poor sweet innocent girl according to Auggie so he won't tell James shit.
it's so fucking funny that suitcase has to sit there and read everything that dribbles out the mouth of our resident mental patient
>>152983365It's written by a woman, and women and accountability are like oil and water; they only mix when beaten
>>152983554They also managed to piss off people on the subreddit by defending ephebophilia.
>>152983520No, don't try to cover for him, when he's ready to stop hiding he can put on his big boy pants and engage with the thread. If he's gonna sit there and keep thinking he's too good to post here then I'm gonna keep not giving a shit what he thinks.
>>152983593He probably is, anonimity and selective engagement is a psychological strength.>>152983591Defined*.
>>152983629>He probably isLOL
>>152983302>>152983365Sad isn't it? I want to see people who so adamantly defended her come up with an excuse now.Yes of course, she suffered she needs to work she wasn't able to enjoy her life yadda yadda, but that doesn't change the fact that she is behaving like a hoe.That being said, this blatant attempt from Taeshi to make Sandy look cartoonishly evil is sad in and on itself.
>>152983415NOSANDY BADLucy the asspatted one cannot be expected to have an actual rival.
>>152983269Geoffrey Espstein. I fucking called it.
Threadly reminder that Oliver cheated on Goldie with Taeshi under her encouragement
>>152983684I wonder if Sandy's character assassination is a result of Taeshi's goldiemalding? Can't have her bagfag allegory being too happy with his first choice, no siree.
>>152983684I cannot imagine unironically consolewarring over Sandy, or really any of these characters. Not as they are, anyway. It seems like everyone prefers these theoretical versions which should by all rights exist but don't because Taeshi refuses to deliver.
>>152983591Said that Sandy being 16+ can fuck Francis, although yeah she did still cheat.>>152983662He's watching and also probably an anon.>>152983684Well she's saying she wish she could cheat to hurt her mom, not that she will cheat to hurt Mike, again. So a technicality.>>152983776Thought he cheated on Veronica.This makes it sound like they're slutty swingers or cuck fetishizers at the least.
>>152983820They all have beautifully written, but apparently subjectively malleable social stances and worldviews.
>>152983786That seems like the most obvious and plausible cause, given the evaporation of any writing scruples that Taeshi may have possessed. The Oliver stand-in must be tortured, the Goldie stand-in is an empty shell with good PR, and the Taeshi stand-in is a misunderstood queen who can never be pampered enough.
>>152983269>Sandy had Cues for when Mike has to reassure her.>After she cheated on him.This humiliation ritual is fucking diabolical.
>>152983365What Jess did was fucked up but it wasn't really related to cheating
>>152983920She does want Mike to feel she's trustworthy but that's something she has to earn, not demand.>>152983944It was way worse, borderline raped him after they both got intoxicated. She also never said sorry, just moved on simping over tsundere cats. She could've even gotten pregnant over that petty revenge rape and not even known, ruining her teen years.
>>152983920I know there are anons in these threads who have argued that Sandy earnestly saw the error of her ways and that her remourse was sincere. There were not a lot of them because, while we are all retards for bothering with this comic, most of us seem to have some basic media literacy and ability to recognize patterns. It's always been pretty clear to me that Sandy only got back together with Mike as a desperate Plan B when the Francis thing fell through. And once again Mike is back to being her pet, albeit one she interacts with more often for want of other options.
>>152983944Oh right, I should have said sex. Good catch, anon.
>>152983269At some point he has to give up right?, does he even feel anything anymore if he's not even following the lame script made for him
>>152983336>>152983212What pics were DMCA'd?
>>152984012Out of guilt and remorse. If she wanted a present boyfriend she could've dumped him for Francis. But it's also possible Mike was the plan B cause Sabrina hated Francis more.
>>152984031He feels isolated, trivialized, unloved, and burned out. He's going to kill himself at this rate.
>>152984031I don't think he loves her anymore. It's all obligation out of guild at this stage since he is worried she'll pull a Lucy ketchuping or something if he kicks her to the curb.
>>152984083>>152984073the solution is a double suicide on valentine's day
>>152984083guilt*
>>152984031Well you see, anon, according to Taeshi all of Mike's self-sacrifice and trying to support others are just masks worn over a selfish desire for validation. Truly he cannot be rid of Sandy until Mike becomes a better person by ceasing to give a fuck about anyone else. Except for Lucy, of course.
>>152984031Kid's dead inside.
Is this comic how all Female focused NTR plays out or is this just some fucked up exception focused way too much on miserymaxxing?
BH
>>152984153>does the baby have a nameWhat kind of dumbass question is that
>>152983920It wasn't a literal scripted cue, it's what people say when they're expecting a response and don't get it.Holy shit
>>152984150Most NTR has sex scenes so without them the only thing left is this
>>152984173NTA, but it really does not matter. Either way, Sandy is expecting verbal asspats. It's not "is everything alright?" but "hey Earth to Maishul I'm talking about hypothetically seeing other guys and you're on my side right?"
>>152984173I think he meant more that it being an expectation at all show how selfish she is despite having been the one who cheated. Like "you shut up while I ramble on and after I reach a certain pause that means I am letting you get a word in and you can reassure me" kinda way.
>>152984153KWAB!Did Fauna take his brother's balls when she grew wings or he never had them to begin with?
>>152984153> Faith fucking Benjamin when?Also, yeah, aww. Sucks for Devie though.Also gosh she's cute. This universe's Katie.By the way Thea drew daughters for both Clover and Benjamin, and Clover and Devin. Hope I can find them.
>>152984168Probably a misspoken, he should've asked what the name was, like anybody wouldn't just name their baby after many months.>>152984252She's most likely oblivious. No awareness that she is talking too much.>>152984309He can't exactly publically cause drama over the breakup.
>>152984153>"Haha... Don't?"that's like the most zoomerspeak, you are only missing the multiple questions marks
>>152984040BCI leaks
>>152984153Alright, I'll bite. What's this shit and why does it keep popping up in these threads
>>152984391Thea is a zoomer
>>152984343>By the way Thea drew daughters for both Clover and Benjamin, and Clover and Devin. Hope I can find them.Where are you looking for them? Twitter? Tumblr?
>>152984417Is this the new "What's this comic about, I see the comic in the catalog and the characters are always miserable" bait
>>152984461Twitter and Bluesky. Veronica drew the BenjaminxClover child once.
>>152984417I don't know either. Some sort of other furry drama webcomic I reckon. I think the author is friends with Taeshi or something..
>>152984368Sure, but that doesn't mean he has to be a sadsack about it, I would've guessed this kid, sorry, this MAN got to know new people by now, maybe even meet a nice girl.I hate this duality of thinking Clover is cute but also knowing she's a Goddamn whore.
>>152984522You're being forced to realize the duality of women anon. Inside all sweet little girls is a blood sucking harlot ready to come out once she grows up.
Mike endures this suffering and isn't even getting any sex out of it
>>152984596BCB has been sterile for years, anon.
>>152984565SHUT UP SHUT UP
>>152984522The most he can do is vent to her in private, cause his own damn mother already chose not to take him seriously. And yeah Clovie is a whore but Devie loves this whore.>>152984596Being sexually objectified is one of his core issues, a lot of people only seem to value him for romance or sex. He just wants a friend.
>>152983269Taeshi is putting her empathy test thing into action by concocting the least sympathetic grooming victim of All Time.
>>152984510I don't know who the fuck this is, if they're the same child, or if she's Clover's with Devin's or Benjamin's.
>>152984668>Mary dollominous
>>152984602We just got a BCI that was 90% Lucy getting plapped by Paulo
>>152984680Ha, nice. Something that would be cute, if Fauna and Mary got married and adopted a child, definitely give Socket to them.
>>152984683The Another Path universe (which is probably also the Paisy Divorce Universe) is just that.
>>152984683Taeshi hates Pucy ergo she hates sex and sterility is the correct virtuous path in BCB.
>>152984683I meant the official comic, but I do recognize the BCIs do have sexual content.
>>152983302>sure would show my mom if I was double-groomed even harder>finding out her perfect little model has been seduced by an older man, probably shared with his friends too>bet she'd cry if I disappeared for a week and all she got was hours of sex tapes emailed to her daily>god I'm so close, Maishul tell me you trust me, quickly!Was Francis' dick that good, or is her hatred of her mother so massive that it drastically informs her sexuality?
>>152984668mmm yeah, this one must be clover's.Not entirely sure where the dad's components come from, could be anyone.>>152984698The kid's gonna come out so fucked up.
>>152984173Sandy's still expecting mike to reassure her that she isn't bad for ruining people's trust
>>152984734>Was Francis' dick that good, or is her hatred of her mother so massive that it drastically informs her sexuality?Probably both. Sandy seems to have a stage mom so now she's just rebelling and probably actually fucking other guys while acting like she isn't for Mike.
>>152984734SANDYBADWhat don't you understand about this, anon? Grooming victim? No, Sandy is just a DIRTY LITTLE SKANK!
>>152984746And you know if Mike brought up that she has zero grounds for getting offended, Sandy would just try to victim blame and mewl for pity. Kind of like how Lucy behaved whenever anyone wanted to keep an eye on her post-suicide attempt.
>>152984762She'll ask Mike for an open relationship before too long and then resume ghosting him once she secures another source of validation.
>>152984828Why would she even ask him, she can just ghost him whenever, not like he can do anything about it
>>152984863The need for rubber stamp permission so she can feel good/like not a total whore about herself.
>>152983554Sitting there at the computer, reading shit like this (>>152983260) on the off chance this psycho violates your intellectual property rights
>>152984746Sandy should really thank Lucy for training him so well. She wouldn't have this grip on Mike if it weren't for Lucy teaching him that people hurting him is his fault and that he has no right to stand up for himself if he isn't perfect. Having a problem with Lucy's dependency issues ruined his life, so why would he say anything about Sandy here? His purpose is to be used.
>>152984811>Kind of like how Lucy behaved whenever anyone wanted to keep an eye on her post-suicide attempt.Mike being depressed makes way too much sense.>Ditch abusive childhood friend White cat who hits you, rejected confession, and uses you.>New white cat ghosts you, is a cheating btich and needs to be sucked off.His entire life has been the illusion of choice. Bet if he did leave Sandy, she'd try to kill herself or get kidnapped.Wonder if dating Stacy or Amaya would be as bad as the white cats?
>>152984910He should just learn that white cats are bitches and to avoid them like the plague
>>152984904Really, how DARE Mike want anything out of a relationship. It's so unbelievably selfish!
>>152984910Mike will develop doghouse fever and exclusively date dogs after the bullshit these cats have put him through.
>>152984965It all culminates with Amy.
It's really funny how Mike is this "Manipulative asshole" when Taeshi does tumblr blog answers, but then what master manipulator gets into situations like the Sandy or LitS stuff without trying to get any actual benefit from it?
>>152984596As long as Lucy/Sandy are having sex with someone Mike is happy.
>>152984965I still think it's bullshit that they can't interbreed, I'm guessing that's for not making weird mutants part of the setting.
>>152985033He's wanted on some level and so it's horribly selfish for him to be unhappy about it. Is he not living his best life? IS THIS NOT WHAT HE WANTED?
>>152985033For real, I really can't tell if Taeshi is just typing nonsense (as in, she really believes what she writes) or if she is just trolling the readers, because it really feels like she writes one thing and does the opposite, be it out of spite or for some other reason.
>>152983269Eh. SandyxMike is still the best ending available. I don't really care if Mike is happy, but the love between him and Sandy is apparently impossible to break no matter how hard either of them tries, so may as well stay the course. Plus Porsche is a cute kid.>>152984153I like the way that every line of dialogue that Faith gets humorously underlines that she's a mess.
>>152985076>He's wanted on some level and so it's horribly selfish for him to be unhappy about it.Mike should put on some clothes to reduce the lustful gazes. He wouldn't be getting assaulted and blamed if he weren't so lewd. He begs for it.
>>152984655Reformed slut Clover arc when?>>152985310Imagine if this faggot just stopped caring and started fucking all the girls that have shown interest on him out of desperation and loneliness.Wait, what?
>>152985304Porsche's haircut always sucked compared to kitten Chloe's but for some reason Taeshi made her the latter look like a lesbian spinster during her teenage years.
>>152985304You mean Felix x Mike
>>152985304>the love between him and Sandy is apparently impossible to break no matter how hard either of them triesWhat love is there? Mike is clearly not into it at all, and Neither is sandy. They don't and never did have any chemistry between them, to the point where this whole situation just feels completely unbelievable.Ain't no way a young dude will accept that kind of stuff, specially if he isn't even into the relationship anymore. It'd be one thing if he was still head over heels for her, but it isn't the case.
>>152985369Fair enough, the best ending that doesn't require Mike accepting that he's gay.>>152985424>Ain't no way a young dude will accept that kind of stuffWhat comic are you reading? Because I'm reading the one where Mike has been accepting exactly that for 5 in-universe years, and according to noncanon extras will happily continue to accept it into his mid 30s at minimum.
>>152985456>BCB is reflectuve of realityJeeze no wonder you're haunted by the thought of gay people.
Sandy will sperg, trust.hi bagfag nice to see you here again :-)
>>152985304>The love between him and Sandy is apparently impossible to breakThere is no love there. Just guilt and sunk cost fallacy.
>>152985304If cheating, a bastard child and Mike's #2 option literally throwing herself at Mike wasn't enough to get Mike off the Sandy Train then nothing is.
>>152985456I know Mike does, but he is behaving like no other dude at his age and in his circumstances would. The only way Mike would accept this is if he really was a completely desperate person with no social life at all, and if that was the case, he would act desperate, trying his best to retain Sandy's love, instead of being all distant and uninterested.It breaks suspension of disbelief is what I'm trying to say. I understand it is a comid and fiction and all, but there is no reason for the characters in this comic to act the way they do, in like 70%+ of the time, so it kind of becomes a frustrating experience.
>>152983302I'm guessing Geoffrey is her personal driver given he's supposed to be responsible for taking her homeSandy is threatening to have sex with her driver right to Mike's face just to make her Mom feel bad, what's next facial abuse?
>>152985733Imagine she gives her driver a handy and causes them both to die in a car crash. Forensics will uncover them positioned in a most unflattering manner. Headlines read: "Starlet gives worst handjob ever, dies."
>>152984736She did say they wouldn't make the best parents, and yeah the child could be either Devin's or Benjamin's. Benjamin might have green eyes but it's hard to tell, cause she could still get the blue eyes from Clover.>>152984910He could date them but won't, he doesn't believe in polycules, they largely come from conservative Christian families. But Amaya, Stacy, and Sue would likely be better for Mike considering how burned out he is from Sandy.
Read Fork-in-the-road. I am amused and horrified at how awful a mother Lucy is, getting drunk and keeping baby Chloe up by yelling about how she's stupid for letting Mike fuck her, yelling AT Chloe for reminding her of Mike, and even her attempts to be a "good mother" are foisting awful advice and emotional burdens onto her kid. Mike sucks and is an asshole, obviously, but at least he's a good dad to Porsche, despite being too much of a pushover to insist that Sandy come to her daughter's matches. I kind of hate Sue kissing Lucy, it doesn't amount to anything and I cynically suspect it was only included to go "see, Sue has issues too! Lucy isn't uniquely fucked up and awful, everyone's flawed!" I also find the timeline kind of confusing, because the night Mike and Lucy bone they say it's been 3 years since they last saw each other and Lucy's in (presumably) college, which would place it at a year or two after they graduate high school, but they're talking like high school was ages ago.>>152985629Exactly. Mike might as well lock in and get a cute daughter and a stable marriage where he can be the homemaker like he wants to be. Sure, his wife is probably having affairs, but he's (apparently) not above that himself, so who cares? Open marriage or whatever.
>>152985880>Amaya and MikeIn my restless dreams...This fucking moron can't find a girl that's not fucked in the head to save his life, now can he?
>>152985039> With each other.I remember joking about how hilarious they'd be as parents. Kid gets bullied, Sandy proposes the peaceful, non-violent ignoring him, Lucy suggests kicking their ass.>>152985304Sandy isn't the best partner, she has to take more responsibility for when she actually does something wrong. And yes, Porsche is an adorable kid but Sandy has made it clear she's not an attentive mother, more concerned with work. It would make her a real daddy's girl and likely to resent Sandy. But Sandy has a stronger capacity to be a good wife and mother, far more than Lucy who's more likely to be a strict, selfish, authoritatian domestic abuser.
>>152985905To be fair, that's in part because the writer twists things around so when he actually is taking positive steps they suddenly become landmines that reinforce his worst fears and assumptions (see James)
>>152983269Mike is so evil. How dare he zone out while his girlfriend talks about fucking an older man. Lucy should kick him again.
>>152985369For the sake of his mental health, Mike shouldn't be dating. But Amy, Felix, Paulo, Stacy, Sue, Amaya, and secondarily James would all make suitable partners for him. I defend Sandy but she's not being very considerate and Mike doesn't trust her the same way, Lucy is on the bottom of the list.>>152985617He feels obligated to forgive her, he still loves and cares about her, and Sandy does about him, but she's clearly not considerate enough to actually listen to Mike instead of ranting, and she very nonchalantly demands that Mike forgive, trust, and listen to her with little to earn it.>>152985905He primarily needs a partner, boy or girl, who won't view him as an objectified trophy, and who comforts his life's problems and gives him self-worth outside of a sexual context. Sandy could do that but chooses not to, Lucy won't, Daisy also could but hasn't. Paulo's taken, so Amaya, Sue, a further developed James, and an Amy or Amyesque partner would suit him.
>>152985926>>152985972Ah, I think I'm starting to identify the reason why this vexes me.It reminds me of picrel.
>>152983269Something I only just realized, I always wondered why Thea used this weird ass commentary on her romantic partner tier list. She made adult designs for all the characters including Fauna and Mary but deliberately chose not to use them on this while using it for the others, which can only mean one thing. Their adult designs and therefore their adult selves aren't canon in the prime universe, meaning that neither Fauna nor Mary will make it to adulthood. For Fauna we know now, Mary will murder her ass, but Mary too? Holy hell.I can't tell but it looks like Cody has an adult design.
>>152983269He needs to get over his fetish for mentally unstable white cats and find a woman who will treat him white.
>>152986014I don't think Mike has reached Spiderman levels of bullshit yet, but that's mostly because his setting is far more grounded compared to Marvel, Lucyspace memes aside
>>152985696Mike's actions vaguely make sense as him being deeply depressed, but that begs the question of why no-one but Paulo has noticed. If Mike's so depressed that he's not even eating and has given up, his grades should be falling apart. And I can't believe that his parents, his teachers, the kids who sit next to him in class, none of them have noticed that he's spending 90% of his time in a fugue state, staring into space or muttering darkly to himself.
>>152986036A bit unfair since Mike is a drama character whose biggest guilts are verbal and social, he has a destroyed self esteem and self worth in the main timeline (not counting the fanfictions where he gets raped, killed, or gore tortured).Action characters are more often susceptable to physical pain and trauma far more often. Peter sees people he loves brutalized, tortured, and killed more often across multiple timelines than Mike does in the main one.
>>152986049They've noticed, or at the very least Daisy has in addition to Paulo. They just don't care enough / want to return to the status quo. Shit, even Paulo's proposed solution was "he should just get back with Lucy and everything will be back to normal". Mike was always right but punished and gaslit by the characters and plot for being right.
>>152986036>Spiderman levels of bullshit yet>yetcue the dead parents arc.
>>152986049Mike is able to power through the bullshit. Strongest member of the cast confirmed.But seriously, it doesn't look as if much time has passed between LitS and now so the discernible impact may be yet to come. Even before now, Mike was having a bad time but managed to tank it and keep his grades up. The kid might be dead inside but we can see he's doing homework while Sandy prattles. There also appears to be a level of narratively convenient "oh Mike's just going through it, don't worry too much" in play that accidentally confirms he was right. But hey, maybe his grades will slip, he'll lose his golden boy status in his mother's eyes and fall into a spiraling feedback loop. There are just so many torments still to be had!
>>152986036When's Mike going to sell Porsche's soul to the devil in exchange for one more day with Lucy?
>>152986049The problem with Mike's behavior was because of what he did during Eternal Flame. No dude would ever go back to his cheating gf if he had an old love all open and willing to get back with him. It just makes no sense in the context, specially because, ON THE VERY NEXT DAY, the dude was glued on the phone happily typing with said cheating gf as if nothing ever happened, whilst ignoring the old love he literally just rekindled the day before.Taeshi tried to retcon this by adding a few scribbled pages trying to justify this behavior, saying that Sandy was all sad and regretful and crying and begging him to take her back and shit, but it felt horribly cheap and unrealistic, IMO.picrel is the said scene
>>152986197Bro SuitCase is in the thread don't give him any fucking ideas
...It's all gonna lead in a few years to "trust only assholes, the truly honest ones, especially Lucy", is it?>>152977676That was the intent, Grave Concern for example, but maybe Taeshi did the usual of changing her mind and pretending it was always the thing, like how in BCI's about the past characters matching their "current at this time" versions instead of old ones. Make your bets how hard Mike gonna be slandered in Grave 2 and if ghost Lucy gonna undo her character growth while stating that it's a good thing>>152977762Sorry, it took a while to make them all smaller filesize and etc, you'll have to wait until the next batch>>152977800She was talking about Fork 1 events, how Mike ran to Sandy when she called next morning after stuffing Lucy all night. It was shitty of him, but also ignore that Mike was single at that time, that Lucy herself woke up Mike to answer the call, that Tae is married to the image of "Mike literally ignores Lucy's existence if Sandy present" as much as to "someone saves Lucy from winter jump, it's (Tae's current goodest boy)", to the point of doing it too many times in the comic (Even to this day! Like that comic with Lucy, Sandy and Mike drinking together) and making it the main point of Eternal Flame's ending, yadda yadda>>152982444More Amy art hopefully soon, irl still keeping me too busy. And not sure how many of my lore ideas I should give her via art, feel like it's best for the thread to decide on most of it collectively, even if anons liked bonus Cookie and etc. At the very least, I have to draw something for the resident biggest Amy artist as belated birthday gift
>>152986188>before now, Mike was having a bad time but managed to tank it and keep his grades up.How, though? He was already disassociating in class at the start of junior year, and that was before he started starving himself or anything. Honestly Mike's academics are a plot hole regardless, because we've always been told he's smart and gets good grades, but we also have always seen him struggling with basic stuff until Lucy or Daisy bail him out, so which is it?>The kid might be dead inside but we can see he's doing homework while Sandy prattles.I assume he's just writing "All work and no play make Mike a dull boy" over and over again for an entire composition book.
>>152986213Lucy is still pretty fucking garbage so it's not like his other option was better. Doesn't help that Lucy has displayed that she'll easily jump ship to the next guy to replace Mike despite acting like he is all she has.
>>152986226>She was talking about Fork 1 eventsYeah I know but she says "every time" twice like this is a pattern. Even with EF in the timeline it's hard to argue that this is a "habit" of Mike's and it's even harder without it.>>152986213Nobody's behavior made sense in that ending scene. Paulo's been doubtful of Sandy more intensely and for longer than anybody but reverses course completely when Mike says he fixed things.
>>152986300I know, but at least he wouldn't be a depressed dude if things didn't work out with Lucy, they'd just both be pissed at each other and move on, instead of dragging this show for years and years with just the same 'hurr mike bad, sandy bad, lucy good' bullcrap over and over.>>152986363Yeah, this is what I mean that the characters most of the time act in ways that just don't make sense, it's frustrating as hell.
>>152986395>They'd just both be pissed at each other and move on>Move onWell we know THAT isn't true kek
>>152986412Yeah, I was gonna write an extra line mentioning that... The truth is that those two are eternally bond to each other by the author's will, so there is no escape, not until the very end of the series, that'll likely not happen in 10+ years.
>>152986461*meant to say bound, mb
>>152983269STOP BEING A FUCKING PUSHOVER BASEDBOY KEK. COMMUNICATION IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF A RELATIONSHIP(TAE YOU SHOULD FUCKING KNOW THIS I KNOW YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THIS CONCEPT CLEARLY). SPEAK WITH HER ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS AS WELL YOU FUCKING KEK STOP BEING SUCH A SOUNDBOARD PILLOW. LET HER KNOW ABOUT THE BULLSHIT YOU HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH. HOW MUCH YOU MISS HER HOW IMPORTANT SHE IS TO YOU. HOW YOU ARE THERE TO SUPPORT HER IN ANYWAY&EVERYTHING. YOU WISH THAT YOU WILL SUPPORT AND HELP WITH MY ISSUES AS WELL. I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH SOMETHING SO HORRIBLE LATELY, LUCY HAS BEEN BEING A BPD PYSCHOPATH LITERALLY GETTING PEOPLE TO HATE ME. I MADE A NEW FRIEND A BOY I REALLY LIKED HIM AND WITHIN WEEKS LUCY MADE HIM HATE ME. BECAUSE SHE FUCKING TRIED TO KILL HERSELF AND THAT IS CLEARLY MY FAULT I AM THE MONSTER. IVE BEEN SO ALONE AT SCHOOL I WISH I COULD TRAVEL WITH YOU AND HELP WITH EVERYTHING, IT WOULD BE SO MORE FULFILLING THEN THE SHIT I AM WASTING MY TIME WITH NOW.NO INSTEAD MIKE CANT HAVE A SPINE MIKE CANT SPEAK UP MIKE MUST BE DEPRESSED LUCYSPACE MUST COMPLETELY MENTALLY BREAK ME I MUST SUFFER BECAUSE MY AUTHOR IS BEYOND MENTALLY ILL BECAUSE SHES A BPS MONSTER WHO HATES MEN ESPECIALLY HER OWN FUCKING BOYFRIEND KEK TOY WHO SHE HAS MANIPULATED INTO CODEPENDENCY FORCING HIM BY MANIPULATION TO NEVER EVER LEAVE EVEN THO THIS WORTHLESS KEK CANT GIVE A CHILD OR MAYBE ITS WORTHLESS OVARIES.God damn I fucking hate Tae so much so very very fucking much, god damn see a fucking psychiatrist and take some meds. Stop using you're god damn comic to play god and make a man suffer in a comic for my own sexual pleasure.
>>152985033>Even the abuser gets in trouble
>>152986300>Yeah Sandy is a cheater who rubs it in Mike's face every chance she gets... but Lucy is worse because she crashes out when Mike turns her down!Cuckold niggas be like
>>152986222>Mike acknowledges his issues and works to overcome them>Learns to draw boundaries and let things go>Stops crashing into Lucy every time he's having a bad day and actually for real this time gets over her>Builds a more equal relationship with Sandy and gets married to her>Has Porsche and loves being a father>Sells the retroactive existence of his marriage and child to the devil so he can keep in contact with LucyFuck you Suit Casada!
>>152986602You missed the part where Lucy is physically + mentally abusive while also throwing herself at other guys
>>152986602Its a cuck situation either way frankly. As said repeatedly Mike's best choice is to tell em both to take a hike, but then the story is over outside of them pulling an Evangelion and having surprise third girl show up and win out of nowhere
>>152985344If he did that then the comic would have ended years ago with a school days ending
>>152986650Yandere Sandy>>>Canon Sandy
>>152986650>school days endingNice bcb
>>152986702taeshi is a school days fangirl, she should just give into her dramatic weeb impulses and make it happen
>>152986766We almost got there when Lucy did a flip, little shit's got nine lives.
>>152986702Nice bowl
I know it was two pages ago, but why wait until now for Lucy to show any signs of the fall having lasting physical damage on her? At least people assume so with her holding her hip.I mean it should have in general. She shouldn't be doing karate yet, if at all with how hard she fell. Running a race would be out the question too.
>>152986886But that would have impeded Lucy's earlier girlbossing! Anyway, now Taeshi needs a "compelling struggle" for Lucy to deal with that doubles as pity bait. So here we are.
>>152986818She should've copied school days 1:1 and have her jump in front of mike and sandy
>>152986886You are supposed to feel sympathetic for Lucy toughing it out, alongside her PTSD nightmares.
>>152985910Why is she naked? It looks really lewd
>>152986926I will not if she gets crippled because of her recklessness.
>>152987026Imagine if we were so lucky to see Lucy face a basic consequence, at long last.
>>152987026you will regret these words when she cripples herself saving Sue, Daisy and Paulo after they say something unflattering about her behind her back (peccato mortale).
>>152987178save them from... failing college entrance tests?
>>152986626porsche is a woman's car
>>152986213>No dude would ever go back to his cheating gf if he had an old loveOh, I'm sure some would. But it doesn't make for particularly compelling drama when your star-crossed-lovers/MCs are a pathetic spineless jerk and another pathetic spineless jerk.I said in the last thread that given how Lucy has been characterized the only realistic good ending is for her to swear off relationships until after she's had like a decade of therapy to stop being such a psycho, but it's a shipping comic, so instead the "solution" is just that she needs to be shipped with the "right" guy who will fix her. Mike has the same problem - he's characterized as a miserable fuckup with deep seated issues, but it's framed as all being Sandy's fault and he'll immediately get better if he just gets into a relationship with the "right" person.
>>152983269I have no words, Mike. At this point I can only come to the conclusion that agony is pleasurable to you. Nothing else explains this nonsense.
>>152986626Mike chose phone!Sandy over full-time, real life Lucy, I know it's a reference to OMD but come on Mike wouldn't trade his pocket lint for Lucy, much less Sandy and his kid.
>>152987593>Mike chose phone!Sandy over full-time, real life Lucy>starving man chooses to eat a bowl of poorly cooked lima beans over a log of fly-covered shit
>>152987434Mike should ask Sandy to order him a cage and shock collar so she can keep him loyal while she's away.
>>152987762Whatever program you're using to generate these non sequiturs it's not working out
>>152987892Who pissed in your cherrios, schizo?
>>152987865That's his valentine's day gift
>>152987424It's easier to imagine someone else fixing Mike because at least a full 90% of his issues are about setting boundaries, and a partner who gives him the space to set those boundaries and doesn't try to cross them all the time could do him a lot of good.Lucy doesn't seem to know what boundaries she wants, and nobody in the world can fix that but her.
>>152987424>Taeshi makes noise about Lucy needing to become more independent and that's why Paulo is bad for her>actually fuck it no she doesn't >let's keep spamming boys until Lucy gets lucky>no still not Paulo shut up
>>152987918>Lucy doesn't seem to know what boundaries she wantsYes she does. Is it really so hard to get a partner that's simultaneously aggresive and borderline abusive, but also submissive and completely powerless? It's like a power bottom, but in reverse. How can Mike not get something so simple right?
>>152987918I can't picture Mike as he is setting boundaries even if he's given space to do so. He's too cuddly (figuratively speaking) to keep people at arm's length: the comic is full of examples of Mike starting more intimate conversations than he's comfortable having, then getting awkward/uncomfortable/angry when he realizes what he's stepped into. A less proactive partner that gave him space and let him control the pace of the relationship would be stuck in limbo for a loooong time while he vacillated between their relationship being romantic or just good friends.What I think Mike needs is someone who will respect his boundaries, maintain that they're friends, and go "What the fuck, no" when Mike tries to cross his side of that line. As opposed to Paulo/Daisy/Lucy, who seem to always go "yeah Mike I'll totally be your rebound, I love you!" when he's flailing for affection.But you're right that Lucy is too paradoxical for a partner to "fix" in any case.
>>152988192>Mike starting more intimate conversations than he's comfortable having, then getting awkward/uncomfortable/angry when he realizes what he's stepped intoI promise I'm not trying to start another thread sliding argument, genuine question, could you give a pre-EF example of this.
>>152985905>This fucking moron can't find a girl that's not fucked in the head to save his life, now can he?Lets see>Lucy has been insane since preschool for no reason and was psychically violent.>Sandy is a cheating vapid bitch with momma issues.>Sue would not only throw him under the buss but drive it and according to BCI, wants Lucy's pussy. So she does it for crumbs.>Stacy is actually complete fine, just a bit obessed with high school popularity, so she's mostly fine and would work.>Amaya :D but only issue if Sue starts shit.So really, about 2 options. Assuming no outside interference, these relationships could work.>Oh and I almost forgot daisy, a bit of a two face bitch.Yeah 2 options in canon that won't lead him to suicide. Amy, incest and or harem or some other shit in fanon.
>>152988305That chapter where he and Stacy had a study project and she introduced him to Swordsvale. He starts telling her he kept her letters and found them really sweet, then quickly realizes he's made it weird.
>>152987424>it's framed as all being Sandy's fault and he'll immediately get better if he just gets into a relationship with the "right" person.Without an ounce of exaggeration, Every single fucking Issue to Mike fucked self esteem, believing his friends don't actually give a shit and would always choose Lucy, to even getting back together with Sandy can be linked back to Lucy. He would unironically have just been a happy go lucky harem protagonist if Lucy's mom closed her legs.
>>152988192I'll buy that as a better explanation.Mike, as Harem Man, is doomed to never have the one thing that would truly fix him: someone who doesn't want to have sex with him>>152988437He had such good chemistry with Stacy too, it's sad he's trapped in the Snowkitty Mind Control Vortex and can never leave.
>To denounce the evils of truth and love!>To betray our friends to satisfy a grudge!>Team psycho, gaslight at the speed of light!>Surrender now or prepare for spite!
>>152988437I don't think that him trying to be romantic. I think its him trying to get close to people but it very easily can be misconstrued as a different form of close. Same thing happened with James but it was Mike just being friendly while James was having an erection. He didn't know James gay until after the movie. Why is intimacy always so weird with Mike? He genuinely seems to struggle to appear friendly to others vs romantically initiating & he is not doing it on purpose.>Letters almost got Mike in trouble with StacyBeen years but did Stacy hold a grudge against him and beat his ass? Or did she act normal?>>152988572>someone who doesn't want to have sex with himI would say its less of that and more that someone who not throw him away if they don't get to fuck him. If James had remained as engaged with him while still trying to go after David then it be fine. He would have what he needed, a friend.>He had such good chemistry with Stacy too,yes he did anon
>>152988645nta but not sure why you'd ask for an example only to shrug your shoulders and say "Well I don't think he meant it"
>>152988608Fucking kek
>>152988768NTA, but do you not understand the concept of finding someone's example to be a poor one?
>>152988768>Why you'd ask for an example only to shrug your shoulders and say "Well I don't think he meant it"Cause this isn't the first time. It seems to be a thing, for some reason, Mike thinks he is getting closer to people but it very much goes the romantic sounding route. He genuinely isn't consciously doing it or attempting to get into their pants or seeking a deeper relationship in that direction. We know cause he could been fucking Daisy since Middle school if he was.
>>152988768They didn't ask for the example, that was me. Anons should probably use NTA more often. I'll admit to being a little dissatisfied with the example just because of Stacy being fairly inconsequential and disconnected from this "leading on" arc, but it is exactly what I asked for so I didn't say anything. I just still kinda feel like this behavior being a primary source of Mike's problems is a recent invention.>>152988645>I don't think that him trying to be romanticI don't think anon really argued for this. Particularly looking at your spoiler it seems like you two basically agree.>did she act normal?It's a pretty short scene, Stacy thinks he kept the letters to make fun of them but he says he thought they were great. She appreciates that and they move on.
>>152989028>. She appreciates that and they move on.Sorry, LITS makes letters seem like affair sex tapes. I wish his comics was self-aware about how insane Lucy appears and didn't indulge her. It also makes me wish he could date Stacy, even if it doesn't last too long(long as it doesn't go full James).
>>152988375Why would his sister be an option
>>152989121>Why would his sister be an optionWhere do you think we are?
>>152989147I meant realistically, of course incest is hot but if he ever actually fucks her he's gonna kill himself immediately after
>>152989171>Mike loses enough sanity to consider itNow that's a fucking spiral. Who knows what the cat could become capable of?
>>152989028>I just still kinda feel like this behavior being a primary source of Mike's problems is a recent invention.Oh, it is. Mike stumbling into flirting by accident has always been a thing, but up until EF it was just a light joke. The only time it ever had any serious consequences was the time Daisy took advantage of that tendency of his to trick Mike into a date, and that only created a problem for her, not for Mike. From Mike's perspective all that happened was he shut her down when she tried to make a move, and they apologized to each other and made up the next day.
>>152984153can you get a trip so we can filter you
>>152987865>Sandy gives Mike a shock collar that activates anytime it detects a female voice>But if Mike asks where she spent the night he gets gaslit into apologizing for being controlling and possessive
An eternity of futile struggle — a penance for my alleged transgressions.
>>152989171>fucks her he's gonna kill himself immediately afterDepends. We have to factor in his mom Mike would not directly kill himself and if Haley can gaslight him just enough, she can convince him to break off with Sandy. After all Mike has now hurt sandy in such a way and with his won sister. She can now bind her brother to her and in a fucked uup way, Mike will be happier. Haley no longer looks at him with scorn, no one is hiting him anymore, is someone who si right there at his side, in his corner and in his bed.Why did my mind go to something toxic but unironically healthier than his current relationships? Anyone have that Mike and Haley drawing in the coffin Andy and Leyley style.
>>152987593Even the shark looks like it doesn't want her
>>152988645Stacy was cool. She was only embarassed but appreciated Mike admiring her work.. I MEAN the anonymous admirer's work!Besides that, they seem to be getting along well without any "leading on" bs I like picrel Mike doing silly interactions, next page it's all chill n games and Stacy didnt took it at heart. Too bad we cant have anything like this in the future because "uuuuh thats cheating! Emotional manipulaton! Man and Woman friend is unrealistic!!"
>>152989548Haley is a casual at the competitive ranked level gaslighting Mike has experienced all his live, can she actually compete?
>>152989669If it weren't for the high chance Taeshi would go super hack 3 and have sandy try and hurt herself if he broke up with her, Macy would be awesome.>>152989696Everyone else has already worn him down. He just needs a few nudges now.
>>152989669Stacy is pretty much a less shitty version of Lucy. She features an appreciable level of spice and cute denial without crossing into turbocunt territory.
>>152987424Yeah well said. Both Lucy and Mike shouldn't be worrying about dates and such, those two need to individually get their stuff together... too bad all of the adults in the comic do absolutely nothing, which to be fair is a standard thing to happen in drama mangas as well.
>>152988375Finally someone said it well. Based on his current group of 'friends', there's only 2 options really, all the other options suck. At most you could argue that Felix is unknown, but lets be honest, Mike will not ever end in a relationship with another guy... or girl for that matter. Like it or not, it all always leads back to Lucy.Daisy sucks, as does James, Lucy, Paulo and Sandy. The only reasonable options really are just Amaya :D and Stacy.
>>152990308Mike wasn't trying to date anyone besides his "girlfriend" shit just went bad anyhow. I think he should try a bit with the track team before calling it quits but I get why he doesn't wanna be near James and David.
>>152989669Shame mike cant actually have friends outside the table tards because one of them will come along and ruin it.Like, with how Taeshi writes him, I have no doubt david would go in and fuck up anything Mike had with Stacey if it made paulo sad for some reason.
>>152990398Does Stacy even like David? I feel like she'd just tell him to fuck off.
>>152989389Don't kinkshame Mike, anon, he can't get it up unless he's getting gaslit.
>>152983365It doesn't seem like cheating rather wanting self harm. Sandy wants Geoffrey to hurt her to teach punish her mom. This could include cutting.
>>152990398David is absolute trash, so I have zero doubt he would if that was the case. Easily the most annoying character in the comic.
>>152984168Husband looks Asian they might have waited for the fortune teller for the naming ceremony thing they do.
>>152984417Wasn't this posted as the better BCB alternative? I think people liked it for its cozy moments when BCB was in a drama storm.
>>152986825Fwuffy cute kitties with diverse personalities, best bowl. Sandy get yo cheating ass in their and cuddle your boyfriend.>>152987014Lol, with her child daughter? It's a universe where clothing isn't a required norm. She's just cheerful, probably cause Sandy's actually being a good and attentive mommy unlike her own Sabrina.
>>152987405Sandy wanted to name her after something rich. There's a whole fanart for it. Porsche is a good name though.>>152987593This is post-Silvershore (A.K.A common sense) Mike, not sayig he should kill her but just not choose her.>>152988375Yeah, cute hot big boobied girlfriend is back! Yeah there's really no point in restricting Mike, why select from one potentially unfulfilling or toxic relationship when you can have a harem polycule with all, including Haley as an incest partner. If they want Mike they'll have to share and earn his respect.>>152989121She has Lucy's sass and edge with no abuse, but incest is such a big divergence from the main universe.>>152989389Sassy B.D.S.M dominatrix Sandy is the best Sandy.
>>152990398David deserves a partner who would just tolerate and even find amusement in his blatant nonchalance and lack of social awareness. He's also bi, so James, Paulo, or Matt.>>152990971It's a more simple plot compared to Bittersweet Candy Bowl and a slice-of-life treat written by Veronica's possibly sociopathic friend. Also has cute shy lovestruck anthros who are very obviously inspired by Veronica's.
>>152991026Their
>>152991247There*. Or their bowl.
I don't think a weekend thread was needed. It's pretty much just him keeping the thread alive.
>>152991835I find it weird that there's so little discussion of the BCIs. I know these threads are underpopulated whenever it's not a Lucy chapter, but I mean come on. There's like 5 really good examples of Lucy being a psycho in there.
>>152991965I will take a look tomorrow and probably bitch and moan a lot.
>>152991965I found them boring honestly. I was really interested in FiTR 2 but I just couldn't make myself to care by the end, I got more out of Falling Back and it was still just eh. BCI's just feel like straight up bullshit.
>>152991965>Why isn't the thread that goes ape shit over any slight against Mike talking about the BCIs where Mike is getting dunked on or not relevantI'm sure it really sucks for the guy who leaked it to not have anyone discussing it, I found them very enjoyable, there's just no one else who would want to engage with it because anything worth talking about would be inherently negative to Mike
>>152989147"Sandy has kept her cheating secret... keeping this a secret doesn't make me any worse than her, does it?"
>>152991965It's a shame there wasn't much discussion at the time, and it's kind of funny to think that maybe that's also why it takes hours for Suit to start taking down the posts. Anyway, it's late for me now, but I should also write a post commenting on BCIs later.
>>152983314Stop breaking the rules
>>152991965Half the anons probably didn't notice there was a new BCI leak and the ones that did get them probably didn't care about most of them.Seeing Matt's deadbeat dad was nice though
>>152991965Can't really discuss the BCIs very well if most people don't see them. I myself only got hold of it because of the leak, and, since you can't post the images here without it getting DMCA'd, it leads to very few people being able to discuss it properly.
>>152993288If someone redraws one all by themselves, does it get DMCA'd?
>>152993363I'm not sure, to be honest.A few years ago, one anon used to leak pages, where he redraw the pages and changed the dialog, but I dunno if that prevented anything (the image wasn't removed, but I don't know if they got banned from the BCB Patreon). Picrel is one example of how he did. I thought it was pretty clever.
>>152991140>David deserves a partner who would just tolerate and even find amusement in his blatant nonchalance and lack of social awareness. He's also bi, so James, Paulo, or Matt.David doesn't deserve anything good
>>152990764Under normal circumstances, she would. But Taeshi would be writing the scenario with things going badly for Mike in mind, so she'd write in a way for him to stick around and ruin it,
>>152987983Who's even left to try their luck at the Lucy roulette? Mike, Paulo, and Augustus have all tried and failed to fix her, and short of resurrecting fan characters like Liam or Larken that's every love interest Lucy's had or hinted at. I know that realistically Taeshi will just pull Mike and/or Paulo through another shift as Lucy's husbando, the poor bastards.I still have a nostalgic fondness for Pucy. It's the only Lucy ship which isn't toxic (Mucy, SC) or out of character (LucyXAugustus, any lesbian Lucy ship), and there was a time when it seemed like the natural route to a happy ending.
>>152991965I did read that Bci last thread and already bitched that Lucy comes off more like a pyscho. >Baiting fight/yelling cause it's your thing >Less than a month before moving onto Paulo after confessing.>Justifying your bullshit cause of a stack of paper despite rejecting the guy when he dud confess.Really makes my bias worse, Lucy did seem to deserve December. This thread we're remind of >>152989669 and a brief letter thing but Stacy didn't act like a pyscho about it. Lucy already came off a bit unstable dye to latching onto him since they were in preschool but the more addition to the past related to those fucking letters the worse it gets. This comic acts like Mike sexually assaulted Lucy.
>>152983503>whom Oliver cheated on Veronica with in high schoolI thought it wasn't even that, Goldie just flirted with Oliver on a forum and that's how far it got yet it still traumatized Taeshi. I don't remember if they were even dating at the time.
>>152994534The comic acts like Mike was worse than Alejandro and forcefully shoved Lucy off the roof, instead of acknowledging that Lucy threw away the apology, abused Mike for a decade and didn't stop when she returned, rejected him, and simply projected her sins onto him in LITS. I truly hope she sics Alejandro and the gang on Mike, just so she can be acknowledged as just as bad as them.
>>152992492You really need to get over Mikefags existing. This is getting sad.
>>152993363just catbox it, bagfag cant dmca links to catbox
Bump
>>152994707Taeshi comes across as the sort of person who will only ever hold herself accountable as a performative gesture. Any real wrongdoing gets blamed on others, with herself as the misunderstood victim. Naturally this extends to her fursona.
>>152995484I don't know if Taeshi herself is like that, but Lucy certainly is. It's her most annoying trait by far.I've only seen her address it a few times, but she never did seem to be truly regretful, she was more like 'yeah I treated you like shit, you have the right not to like me', but she didn't properly apologize for it at all.
I'm beginning my dive into the BCIs. While dumpanon absolutely deserves kudos for dropping these, reviewing them is not something I've been looking forward to. The three pages a week microdosages of Taeshi's abysmal writing are bad enough. Taking fresh shot after shot of her undiluted bullshit is going to suck so much worse. But I did say this was going to happen, so here we are. Fork in the Road 2 will come last because it sounds like the strongest candidate for total momentum killer.
Whatever happened to the BCBFannel guy?
>>152995692They got him
>>152995679>Taking fresh shot after shot of her undiluted bullshit is going to suck so much worseI found it went down a lot easier actually. Especially since these BCI seemed a lot less interested in wasting space than the main comic. It jumped out at me in the Matt one but I think it's true in general. Funny enough the exception is FitR which drags a particular scene way the fuck out, but you'll get there when you get there.
>>152995484For Lucy, Mike, Sandy, and other characters I'd call them flawed and partially misunderstood, when they say or do problematic things they usually have reasons or motivations despite them not always being good, like social anti-villains. Lucy is especially troubled, and it's irked me how a faction of her reader fans are abuse apologists.>>152995692Writing I hope.>>152995720Probably for exposing the Bittersweet Candy Illuminati.
>>152995679Starting with All or Nothing, chosen at random:>Toby is a retard who thinks kneeling behind one foot tall shrubbery is a good hiding spot>beanhead syndrome strikes when you least expect it>re-confirmatiom both thugs are complete pushovers and pose no actual threat whatsoever>the shock value of this much violence and blood in BCB does not survive the cartoony artstyle nor the fact i am not invested in these charactersOverall a mid entry. On one hand it sort of implies the comic proper could get darker and edgier for the sake of drama but also self-sabotages the top candidate source.
>>152995832>Melanie girlboss winking at Augustus while she's calling the cops felt a little tonally dissonant too, it was cheesy.
>>152995880Don't know how I managed to greentext that by accident
>>152995484lmao.
>>152986021I am a pedophile.Mary's mom is cute, tho.
>>152995832Following up with Open Fire because on account of not giving one singular damn about Matt's now obsolete struggle and wanting to get this one over with early:>here is your cartoonish hatable stereotype my little chickies now feel bad for fat cat>please ignore that he's cool with his gay son going to hang out with an all-male group>Sam sucks as usual his obvious autism be damned>Jordan is an annoying twerp and buttmonkey so this bci is breaking nee ground left and right>yet another cryfest but everyone and their mother knew this was coming>hey man i barely know you but you have a sob story so wanna move into my home?Overall verdict: Went in thinking "who the hell cares?" and came out much the same. In the end this BCI feels like ye olde tumblr pity bait for an unremarkable character and meager apologia for the whole Augustus adoption thing. The latter of which does not work beacausea) The dad has some actual first-hand experience with Matt to go on with an extended trial periodandb) Jordan is not an unstable suicidal boy-latching psycho like his sister so has no dubious motives or obvious poor choice of companionship
>>152995692he just doesnt like bcb as much anymore
>>152995980Well her and Taeshi being similar isn't that surprising.
>>152996049She looks like she kidnaps people and beats them in an abandoned shack so she has a target for her mental issuyes.
>>152996049Lol. We ain't, that's her adult design. Longer ears and silky hair.Also yeah, Diane's fucking hot too.
>>152996222She's better than Lucy who'd I'd peg to do the same thing. Mary's aggression only comes from defense.>>152996111I enjoyed it, it was bittersweet that Matt was able to find comfort and security in Jordan's family. They'd never show this protective kindness to Mike. I consider Open Fire canon for now, it works in the main timeline but will depend on what happens to Matt in the future.
>>152996111Continuing with Falling Back because watching Lucy take the L is a rare opportunity>i think that Mike at this juncture would have found Lucy's reasoning to be obnoxious and told to bow cat to go absolutely fuck herself>it's refreshing to see Lucy's actual flaws acknowledged but she leans into it too fast and hard after getting told off for the exact same thing>oh fucking hell Paulo is so pathetic in this one this almost feels like character assassination>Lucy's pretty much embraced her own toxicity by the endOverall this does feel like an overcorrection for Taeshi's old Pucy self-fanfiction archive of shame. I'd think that Lucy would feel worse admitting that she can't love Paulo but it reads like Paulo's makeout game is so bad it drives Lucy into an alt-December depressive mindset. This whole scenario might work if elaborated upon, but this feels like Taeshi stabbing a punctuation mark with her quill and pronouncing Pucy was always dead in the water so shut your yaps already and move on.
>>152996326To a certain extent, "I apologize, we shouldn't talk anymore" is just a smarter, more effective way of saying just that.
>>152996326Looking back, Tess and Mike being the two main sources of disapproval makes me wish they had interacted with each other more. Tess and Mike had a nice dynamic and it's a shame that's gone now, even in BCI. I guess this is a case of these BCI's focus on a singular idea having a downside.
Are we given a reason to why lucy can't bring herself to love Paulo other than her obsessive compulsive fixation on mike? She's apparently happier than she has ever been when she's with him. For what reason can't she see him as anything other than a lesser mike when she obviously has a lot more chemistry with him than with anyone else? This just makes lucy look like a psychopath who can't see other as people, only as tools, with mike as the most prized of them all. It's weird.
>>152993551> Dog girl harem. Kizuna, Katie, Mina, Rachel, Sasha, Amy, ect.In all seriousness maybe there's a ditzy partner out there who will tolerate and even build him up out of his obliviousness. If Richard could get a cute hot future MILF like Nicole, why can't David?
>>152996279Whom*, the fuck... Don't know where that came from.
>>152996911An anon a while back made a reasonably compelling case that Paulo immediately turning around and bagging Rachel to get his man card back turned her off him forever.
>>152997103Yeah but I was specifically referring to the "falling back" bci where paulo seem entirely loyal to her.
>>152996326Took a food break and am back at it with Two Time Love as a palate cleanser of sorts, before the slog through FitR 2. Mostly because I do dig the idea of Maisy, organically failure-doomed as it might be, and feel we got robbed in the comic proper.No greentext for this one since my thoughts on it are more generalized. I did like the Maisy content well enough and do think it's at least plausible that post-alt(?)-Eternal Flame Mike could set his monogamy complex aside and dip his toes into a better relationship, for a little while at least. I still think the whole bisexual Daisy thing was clumsily stapled onto her character with little fanfare and this BCI didn't change that impression. It's nice to see Daisy's whorish tendency get put on full display and how she eased into the situation, but the ending ironically undermined the whole affair by going full BCB retardation mode. I am so burnt out on the whole "dumbshit absurdity is funny lol tonal whiplash what's that?" shtick Taeshi seems to adore.>>152996619Yeah, probably, but I'd still rather something less anachronistic.>>152996637I agree and it's a good thing Tess did not stick around. Imagine how the sperg arc and then FitS would have poisoned her outlook on Mike and ruined their friendship. >>152996911>Are we given a reason to why lucy can't bring herself to love Paulo other than her obsessive compulsive fixation on mike?Not in the comic or any BCIs I've seen. Which is a major reason why I feel Falling Back would have benefitted from an exploration of Lucy's psychosis. Pretending for a moment that there actually is any better explanation than her Mikemalding.
>>152996911She seems to kind of die inside around the time of the play, which is weird because she defused Mike near the beginning, meaning December didn't happen. Before that it seems like the major problem for them is just everybody hating them being together, because even after Mike cuts Lucy off they seem briefly happy until they get disapproving looks. That's the only factor I can think of, everybody being pissed at them for being together causes Lucy to focus more on him being "all she has" than having a good time.It's funny though, it seems like by the play she's trying really hard to make Paulo end the relationship himself. "I love not being alone" while looking him straight in the eye. "It's annoying when you say that" when he says he loves her.
>>152997486And finally we arrive at...ugh...Fork in the Road 2. Let's get this over with.I will say that it makes sense for Mike's kid Porsche to be an athlete. It's good to see him being at attentive, supportive father who has a pretty good relationship with his known kid. Who in turn seems like kind of a bitch but she's Sandy's child and has mommy issues so I guess that makes sense as well. This is FitR Mike so it's not a huge surprise he's portrayed as kind of pathetic and not very dependable where Lucy is concerned, but more on that later.Unfortunately, Lucy's spawn Chloe seems to have inherited primarily from her mother. Who the fuck plans to hunt down a complete stranger at his daughter's party and assault him? I understand her being upset with Mike, especially after he gives her a whole sappy speech and immediately welches, but getting mad he won't flat out drop everything for her and Lucy just seems so selfish. Like geeze, kid, you don't think this situation might need to be handled with some delicacy? I guess she never really had a chance, growing up with Lucy as her mom and all.Speaking of, drunkard Lucy is pretty pathetic in more than one way, but that tracks. I find myself not caring all that much about her relationship with Chloe since the BCI's whole thesis boils down to her daughter discovering the eternal truth of Mike Bad, Lucy Good. Oh be still my beating heart. The part where you, the reader, romance, impregnate, and get engaged to Lucy is kind of funny in a sad cringe little way. I'd say this whole thing seems targeted toward Lucystans, but then most of them are supposedly female and Lucy is willing to leave their self-insert's ass in the dust if need be, so who knows? This is most certainly Taeshi's most ambitious work of Lucy pity bait so far.Anyway, final thoughts:>the yearbook really hammers home Taeshi's sameface/head problem>teen Chloe's hair looks like a mop>adult Sue is a shitty Lucy-obsessive creep and Amaya deserves better
>>152996911Meta reason?Taeshi doesn't want anyone to have a serious chance with Paulo except Daisy, but Paulo was obsessed with Lucy so retconning it as "Well Paulo was talking out of his ass and he was just horny and wanted Lucy as a backup" would make Paulo look like his love for Daisy couldn't be trusted, so suddenly Lucy has to be incapable of loving anyone but Mike (and Adrian somehow)But for an in-universe reason it's hard to say because it's completely illogical in the first place>Lucy is happier than she's ever been>With a friend she's always found attractive and enjoyed being around>He wants only her so no shit tests failedThe only possible explanation you can conjure up is she feels guilty for some reason, but that would be a pretty new thing for Lucy to feel
Wonder what Mike's relationship with Sue is like in FitR2. What if Lucy isn't the only one she's cheating on Amaya with?https://litter.catbox.moe/6lfyrn2nhyll6gzt.png
>>152997192Oh, then I got nothing. Puck showed up and mind controlled her, like the rest of the cast.
>>152996911>>152998566We have to remember that Mike is Lucy's oneitis and "first love", with the whole thing happening in a span of 4 months. Her attachment issues are not gonna make her move on that easily.
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>>152998905hot
>>152996637A shame Tess was on Team Lucy and gave Mike just as much shit as everyone else at the time. Paulo's hostility towards Mike at the time rubbed off on her.
>>152998786>>152998905These last few threads have been pretty good all things considered.
>>152998905tf is she looking for in there
>>152999119>Paulo's hostility towards Mike at the time.So much of Mike's grief could have been avoided if he had just fucked Paulo years ago. On second thought, there's a plotline I would love to see explored: Lucy coming back to Rosedale to find that not only has Mike broken up with Sandy but is now dating Paulo. The resulting crashout would be the stuff of legends.
>>152998786Goddamn that's fuckin nice
>>152997495NTA, but Lucy's depression-spiral started before December. And I guess everyone avoiding her because she and Paulo are being weird and creepy could maybe serve a similar purpose as Mike telling her "nobody likes you" in terms of isolating her and exacerbating that spiral.As to Lucy's inability to love Paulo, the read I got was that she was going cold and trying to chase him away out of a self-sabotaging feeling of guilt. There's a couple sequences in there where she smiles, then stops smiling and looks guilty, so I think she does enjoy Paulo's attention and all, but the knowledge that she's just using him as a crutch keeps spoiling her mood.
>>152999158Someone tossed a quarter down her ass at the gym
>>152998905Artist name, or ai?
>>152999421I suppose knowing that she permanently drove Mike away (because permaguilt) and can't get him to interact anymore, along with her whole thing about being wanted for her body, might do a number on Lucy's psyche
>>152998905>>152999158Maybe she's fisting practicing for Mike to cream her juicy ass.>>152999460Speaking of which I hope Rock (or an anon) returns to draw more egg vibrator art like they did for Sandy and Mike back on /trash/ a few months ago. I'm browsing and saw some wild ass prompts in older threads. Planning to draw a few including a tween/teen Chris being raped by groomed and raped Daisy. There are a many others, considering Second Confrontation went back years, I do wish I read this gem of a drama earlier.
>>153001126Mood.>>152996911She thinks all her friends including Paulo failed her and that she doesn't need them, and she is generally selfish and will cast aside anybody who defies that.
>>153001126Looks like someone got the news she's menopausal a little early
>>152998161I think Fork in the Road is very inadvertently funny with how Augustus is nowhere to be seen. He did the smart thing, got his ticket out of there and blocked her number.
>>153001126This feels like something Mike would be fantasizing about these days.
>>153001315Lucy has a new sexual predator to be her handler. Actually maybe she's so fixated on Mike because he's the only one who ever put up with her without molesting her.
>>152992492I honestly don't think the BCIs dunk on Mike all that hard. Even in FitR 2, he's less of an asshole. He's just a pushover, as opposed to the awful shit he pulled in FitR 1. You wanna talk about a character who gets blown the fuck up in the new BCIs, it's Lucy. In FitR she gets a ton of support as a single mom, but STILL puts huge emotional burdens onto Chloe to the point that she runs away from home. And it's implied she doesn't pull up from her alcoholic misery until some new guy comes along to "fix" her. And in Falling Back she's almost a caricature of herself - she tells Mike to commit to Sandy instead of being jealous, then when Mike says "That's fair, sorry. We shouldn't talk, go do whatever" Lucy tears up and runs to Paulo's house. When Paulo tells her he loves her she looks deep into his eyes and says "I love not being alone". When Paulo asks if she'll ever love him after they have sex, she just asks him if it matters and offers a second round.
>>153001892>leaving the em dash in your chatgpt summary
Mikesperg is so fucking salty lol
>>153001892I wonder how much Taeshi intended the reader to sympathize with Lucy in either BCI.
>>153002177That's an en dash, and it's not my fault that your standards for literacy are so low that a chatbot writes better than you.
>>153001126Hey, even the most milquetoast of normies can be overwhelmed with their problems and think how it would be if suddenly everything ended.
>>153001892FitR is about Chloe finding out that Lucy was right about Mike being a self-centered little worm and being happy that her mom has managed to move on from him. It's a good example of how a character doing something wrong can either be meant to show the impact of something bad on them or just show that they suck. Everything Lucy does is Mike's fault, and she gets her happy ending when she moves on from him. Mike doesn't get any excuses or a happy ending.It's usually a similar divide in the main comic, with regards to the story purpose of Mike or Lucy doing something wrong. Lucy trying to force herself on somebody when her Mike privileges are revoked is meant to make you feel bad for her. Mike kissing Sandy and following James outside, the very same desperate grasping for validation, are sins that need to be punished.No argument about Falling Back she's actually just a cartoon villain by the end.
>>153002870Neither you or anon are wrong about FitR. You are correct about the intent whereas anon nailed the actual outcome.
>>153001892Can someone spoil me all of ftr2? I probably missed whatever thread leaked or talked about it.
>>153002939Anyone reasonable reading it is going to come away with the idea that Mike is supposed to be a shit head, they're not going to put Lucy having an alcoholic phase she fails to hide from her kid on the same level as Mike forbidding his child from meeting her sister, or Mike sweeping for Sandy and still unable to stand up to her for even the sake of his other daughter because they're not, the story practically bends over backwards to have Lucy in a positive light.Meanwhile there's no leeway, Mike isn't given any leg to stand on, his daughter reaches through the fourth wall and says "You suck and Lucy is right and here's a bunch of flashbacks to prove it"
>>153002453Impossible to tell really. Many BCIs are the product of a collaboration between the Taeshi of our worldline who holds that Lucy can do no wrong and an alternate worldline Taeshi who recognizes that Lucy is the source of many her own woes.
>>153003326noo anon, he's gonna get you
>>153003326does mike get a happy ending ever
>>153003326Her nose in the 17th panel looks like an itty bitty smile.
>>153003339Idc, he's a loose cannon with DMCA but for whoever cares it's completely toothless, it's just easier for websites to cuck out to DMCA trolls even if they're baseless and delete it.Technically it's illegal to forward spurious DMCA claims it's just no one will ever go to court over it>>153003384Nope, apparently not, reminder Taeshi's tumblr asks are anonymous and open to anyone with an account A group of people could theoretically spam it with so many questions asking her about her strange hatred of Mike that she couldn't use it anymore
>>153002870>Mike doesn't get any excuses or a happy ending.I disagree. Mike is shown to be a good dad to Porsche, and at the end they still have a better relationship than Lucy has with her daughter.>>153003326You're excluding the rest of the conversation, where after he stops Chloe from going inside they still continue to talk, with Mike going "I'm really glad to hear Lucy and you are doing well, and that your step-dad is great". He says that he loves her, and now he knows she exists he wants to do right by her and be a part of her life somehow, and it's pretty heavily implied that the only reason Chloe doesn't take him up on the offer is because she knows that Lucy will implode and ruin everything AGAIN if Mike comes anywhere near her.
>>153003542>He hates Sandy, activelyWhat? No he doesn't. Mike makes it very clear he still loves Sandy, it's just that he doesn't feel lonely when she's working since he has Porsche to take care of.
>>153003640Ah nuts, I read>I don't know if I can explain... but I didn't need Sandy anymorebut missed>It was a blessing when she was [here]Fair enough. That first one still doesn't seem like a guy who loves his wife very much, though.
>>153003176I rather disagree on that position. Mike wanting to not ambush his family with a surprise daughter, especially right then and there, is very reasonable. These things need to be handled with some care. Chloe demanding otherwise is understandable given she is an emotional teenage girl with a limited perspective but is ultimately very selfish. Meanwhile, Lucy has been drinking herself into stupors and pining for Mike all of Chloe's life and refusing to stop despite outside support (at least until another guy finally enters her life). Chloe has to be the one to keep her away from Mike because Lucy has proven largely incapable of self-control, even for her daughter's sake.
>>153003542In the good old days we would've got a bunch of new art with how much PLAPing Paulo and Lucy did in the new BCI
>>153004080Can you post the other parts too before suitcase finds you
FiTR 2 is a journey on Lucy's pathetic hang up on Mike, but unlike Mike, Lucy's sacrifies are touched upon which make her more sympathetic to the reader. Mike on the other hand, gets put on the spot almost immediately and any hint of hesitation is met with finality. It's like when Lucy kicked Mike before he could defend himself in LiTS.
>>152996326This whole chapter is such empty air. I was legitimately confused when it ended because it didn't feel like an ending.I also don't like that the reason Pucy fails has nothing to do with their personalities leading them to make bad choices and only wouldn't work because Paulo always misses his Taunt and never takes aggro from Mike.It's just so weird how hung up Lucy is on Mike. Why? If it's just a BPD favorite person thing that's kinda boring because it never gets called out as or treated as such.
>>153004666>It's annoying when you say thatI take it back, this line is funny enough that it justifies a comic that is just the same scene three times in a row
>>153004693Personally I think "I love not being alone" is the best joke in the dump. It's so ridiculously cold.
>>153004567>It's just so weird how hung up Lucy is on Mike. Why? If it's just a BPD favorite person thing that's kinda boring because it never gets called out as or treated as suchYeah, that's kind of the problem with constantly tearing down a character both now and retroactively. Just what IS so great about Mike? Back in the day Lucy's obsession made sense because he was the only guy Lucy trusted to support her, stay with her, and not take advantage. He was a dork and a pushover but also generous and could get serious when the chips were down. He had canonical good looks and anime protagonist powers that came in clutch for Lucy more than once. But now Mike is a twerpy little sad sack who let his latent anger spin out of control, made a complete ass of himself, became a cuck, and has no working spine. He gets shown up at one of the few things he was solidly the best at. We are told he was never a truly selfless but only played the hero for validation. And to top it all off, it turns out that Lucy never did actually trust Mike. Because of the letters. Which he was rightly punished for.So what exactly does our furry white ice queen see in Michael Scarfcat? I propose the one and only angle that makes sense is a need to beat Sandy at the Mikebowl to feel better about herself. Yet more Goldiemalding, both in-universe and without.
>>153004666Thanks anon much appreciated
Read Two Time Love, was not expecting that ending. Daisy really didn't deserve that, I shed tears for her. Really thought they were going to form a polycule. Sandy cheated and Mike fell out of love with her, them getting back is not going to be a healthy relationship. I see Daisy getting depressed and trying to win their good graces back.
>>153004926You have the worst outlooks on relationships of any kind.
>>153005033bcb does that to you
>>153004666>I knew about those letters!Taeshi can't just stop herself from adding these nonsensical retcons, lmao.
>>153005130I am 100% sure he was already like this.>>153005132It's hard to tell whether Taeshi has been sitting on this big letters reveal for years, salivating at the prospect only to get royally blueballed when she played the card, or finally came up with something she was certain would not only balance the sin scales but tip them in Lucy's favor.
>>153005242Nah, it's a retcon. Taeshi used to claim that Lucy had no idea that Mike was still in contact with Sandy and she didn't take the revelation well. Now Lucy's been retconned into a pathological liar I guess!
>>153004751There are a few alternatives which leap to mind: >Nostalgia for Mike as her oldest and best friend, back when he was the only one who put up with her shit and she was less miserable.>Mike's asexuality being a selling point for Lucy given her hang-ups around sex and being wanted.>Mike being tiny makes her feel less inadequate over being even tinier, as he's the only boy who can hug and kiss her without having to get on his knees.
>>153005421>Lucy given her hang-ups around sexThis might as well be a completely retired plot point, she was the one initiating all the sex with Paulo, she was the one that tried to fuck Augustus and she was the one that stepped forward to kiss Mike
>>153005434Yeah, but all those were acts of desperation or something, where Lucy was going "Oh fuck, I need to lock in or I'll be alone, what do I have to offer - my body!"At least I assume that's the intention. Lucy is baffling, inconsistent, and canonically insane, with her apparent motives swinging almost as wildly as her mood. Half the reason she started hanging out with Augustus was because his creep factor kept all her friends away, but now she's rehabilitated his reputation and is back at the table of people she hates. I don't actually know what her deal is, and I suspect that she doesn't have one.
>>153005593her deal is hoping mike decides to end it all and being able to go "i told you so" at this point
>>153005421One of the best things that could happen is for Mike to ask Lucy, point blank, why exactly she's so hung up on him. Preferably once she has no room to deny it. I assume she'd either waffle on the answer, realizing she's kind of stumped, or else declare that Sandy ruined him but once she's gone he'd naturally go back to "normal." Which dovetails with Paulo's own hopes. It's an eminently mockable position to hold.
>>153005593>At least I assume that's the intentionLucy was that way for the longest time but with Taeshi the Retcon Queen it's impossible to know whether that's still the case.
>>153004666evil ass relationshipmike is good here to just leave lucy behind entirely despite his retarded sandy relationship who the fuck would pick the girl thats actively fucking someone every night while pining for you?
>>153004666Paulo declaring he still loves Tess while spending every other period making out with Lucy is the saddest most pathetic thing I've ever seen him do.
>>153006138How is having sex with another girl you like when you get turned down pathetic again
>>153006157being an eternal simp is pathetic no matter what
>>153006170He only said he loved her one time and spent the rest of the chapter fucking Lucy, in your opinion what should he do to be based
>>153005871We've gotten versions of that scene, with EF being the most prominent, but Lucy's always super vague and barely touches on the "why". She just goes:>You're so great Mike, some day you'll find a girl who deserves you...>>153006138Are you sure? It's got some serious competition.
>>153006157Please tell me you are only pretending to have a chromosome surplus.
>>153006221I gather Lucy wouldn't say something like that these days, nor would Mike believe her.
>>153006315>crying already
>>153006422Okay, but your tears aren't relevant here.
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>>153006486The line, Bart.
>>153006347Mike's never believed her. Lucy briefly letting her walls down to tell Mike he's great has happened like a dozen or so times, and Mike's standard response is "guh, that's sweet of you but I'm not all that great...". Sometimes Mike responded with more irritation, sometimes with more guilt, but he's never seemed to internalize the compliment. Probably because said compliment was always sandwiched by Lucy yelling at him to shut up or smacking him or otherwise putting her guard back up.Incidentally, he's had roughly the same exchange with Daisy and with Paulo a few times. They tell him he's great, he goes "guh, thanks?" or "guh, no I'm not...". Personally I think Mike dealing with Lucy berating him since he was in kindergarten gave him a persecution complex, and now his self-image is fucked.
>>153006157
>>153006598I'd call it something closer to imposter syndrome. Mike wants the external assurance that he's better than he thinks he is but doesn't feel like he lives up to the hype, such as it is. Not sure how he'd solve that.
