"What if Ben and Gwen were born on the same day and were classmates, but weren't actually related at the start of the series? They are just two kids who know each other from school, until a last-minute proposal between their family members (who are younger than their parents but older than them) leads to a summer wedding. This trip becomes a way for the two 'future cousins' to bond before they officially become family at the end of the summer." Could that have worked, and would the cartoon still be as famous?
>>152996827Yeah, that would have worked... and would have resulted in even more success from shippers who are otherwise icked-out by cousin fucking. And more good rule34 too.
>>152996827
>>152996971They could probably have mostly this exact same scene in the change I suggested just practicing for the wedding and probably have the exact same type of reaction from the fan base.
>>152996827It would be less famoud because then they wouldn't be an incest ship
>>152996827>They are just two kids who know each other from schoolThey should still be bickering all the time (and have been their entire lives). It's an integral part of their dynamic.
>>152996827>>152996894If there's any form of familial connection between them, the ship would still be considered incest and thus frowned upon.Sorry OP, you gotta come up with a different idea.
>>152997963But if the two are not genetically or familiarly related before the summer then it's more like your step sister then your cousin. And step siblings are usually more okay to do it with than your cousin .
>>152997560Yeah, but it would have been known as an actually good romance angle in a cartoon because they'd be able to actually pair them up in the sequel.
incest is like 30% of why bwen is so hot
>>152997963How about their parents had to go on a "secret mission" and the only only they trusted with their offspring was an old friend from previous "missions" Uncle Max.Would MAYBE also work with trying to rescue their marriage over summer.
>>152997560It would be a less famous (infamous) ship but it'd also be a bigger ship for the same reason. Bwen is such a well-known ship because of the notoriety of being an incest ship. If the incest aspect was removed, that'd stop holding back a lot of people who didn't want to ship it since it'll just be a normal male lead x female lead ship, but that'd also make it less notable.
>>152998963Go on.>>152999677Go on.
>>152998363I'm afraid general society doesn't care, anon. You put two people who are meant to be seen as family in a romantic relationship and alarms start going off. It sucks, but I don't make the rules.
I don't think it works as well if grandpa isn't grandpa to both of them
>>152998915>tara strong supports bencest>grey delisle supports firecestI love it when VAs support the degenerate ships of characters they voice.
>>152996827I find Bwen hilarious because in order to make it work you have to remove the reason anyone on /co/ talks about it. Lucy is the better cousin for Ben anyway personality wise.
>I found Gwen x Low Tier God NTR pornI can't believe someone made this shit.
>>153002260>tara strong supports bencestCitation? I know Tara is a pervert but I doubt she'd ever go on record with something like this.
>>153002327Anon...take a closer look at that drawing...
>>153002372Oh lol, I didn't notice the signature. Not necessarily proof of anything since people will sign almost anything in a hurry, but okay, it's in writing so acceptable in a court of lewd law.
>>152996827no Cletus, incest, even if just political incest is still squicky
>>153002327>>153002536There are more of these.
>>152996971Was this scene them trolling the shippers? Why else does it exist?
>>153002842It's just a wholesome family moment
There is literally nothing wrong with banging your cousin. George Washington did it. Albert Einstein wasa product of cousins banging.
>>152996827that was kinda the original idea of the show>>153002323oh my god
>>152998915>>153002830Gwen loves Ben but she also has to do things she's not proud of.
An idea I have is teenage Ben or Ben 10k unlocking an alien for 10-year-old Ben during one of those time travel events. What do you think of this idea, notwithstanding any time paradox it may cause? I'd also like to see more teenage or adult Ben interacting with young/10-year-old Gwen.
>>152996827I misread this at first and thought Ben and Gwen’s families put them in an arranged marriage and made them go on this trip so they could bond before the wedding, then I wondered why the hell you think people would accept a CN cartoon about an arranged child marriage
>>153002260the english va for krystal from starfox just retweets big kitty tiddy fanart of krystal, and has just appropriated the fursona as her own
how many lives has ben 10 ruined
>>15300637810
>>152996827What if I peeled your skin off and salted it before throwing you into a pit of rats to slowly be consumed. What a shame it would be for you to be eaten by your own kind you impotent slackjawed bastard.
>>153006468kinda hot
>>153002258I agree. That's why the only way I can see the "Gwen is just a classmate of Ben and not related" premise working is something like Gwen's parents were friends with Max and they get killed so he adopts her. It's not the same if she doesn't have the same relationship with Grandpa Max.
>>153004771>I misread this at first and thought Ben and Gwen’s families put them in an arranged marriage and made them go on this trip so they could bond before the wedding,Go on.
>>153002857Do you slow dance with your cousins? There was definitely more to that scene. Be honest, you know they want each other.
>>152996827>What if the cool super hero alien show was about two 10 year old cousins falling in love?Do Bwenfats just not realize how silly and unhinged their hyperfixation sounds?
What do you guys think Gwen's mom would think of Ben?
>>152996971Ok, what would have happened if Max hadn't been there?
>>153007979They'd have danced together and it would've been so cute!
>>152996971YES.
Was Gwen's butt really that big?
>>153008288No, they would have fucked
>>153009375They're a little too young for that. However, I could definitely see them going beyond dancing, eventually. Maybe some kisses that get deeper and more sensual as they grow up before they inevitably consummate their marriage once they're adults.
>>153009375No. No, they wouldn't have.
>>153001218This would eliminate the incest angle as they'd be unrelated, but still classmates.
Who wears it better?
This episode is the canon ending (true and real)
>>153011422bros why couldn't the next series just have been them touring around SA or somewhere 1 year later...
>>153011589>bros why couldn't the next series just have been them touring around SA or somewhere 1 year later... Because that wasn't the sequel cartoon .
>>153004625>adult Ben interacting with young/10-year-old GwenBased.>the weak should fuck the strong>>153012250Cute!>>153011422"More of the same" for another whole season wouldn't have sold well and would have gone into a slow downward spiral.
>>152996827>thread still upWell, I guess it's time to show the nsfw edit work I made some hours ago since I was bored, so here you go. https://files.catbox.moe/210lqv.png
>>153011363They both wear each other's outfits so well
>>153009298>>153003215>>153012250>>153012396>>153012573Niiiiice.
These threads are boring and repetitive.
>>153011422I don't even get what the point of making this episode non-canon was
>>152996971I remember really liking this scene as a kid. People often bond through trauma (which they would go through realistically what with the constant body shifting and combat) and having scenes about deep emotional connections that AREN'T romantic are really nice and quite rare.
>>153012573You give off the impression that you have certain proclivities when you take the effort to draw Ben's penis but not Gwen's vagina
>>153013282What does trauma have to do with that scene?
>>153015064What?
>>153015693I'm wondering if looking at that through the lens of trauma is the right way to do it.
>>153007237>What if the cool super hero alien show was about two 10 year old cousins falling in love?This unironically would make the show perfect. Ben and Gwen fighting off evil, triumphing over every challenge they face. But what is the one thing they cannot overcome? Their love for each other. Not only would they fight off bad guys, they would also fight the taboos of modern society. It would be kino.>Do Bwenfats just not realize how silly and unhinged their hyperfixation sounds?Sir, this is 4chan. But in all fairness, you do need a very high IQ to understand Ben and Gwens romantic chemistry. It's ok if you don't get it.<3
What is Gwen's favorite alien to have sex with?
>>152996827Why are you still mad that your self insert ship isn’t canon
>>153017029Goop.
>>153017029Technically she's a different species, so grandpa Max.
>>153017103Based Maxmaxxer.
>>153017029Four arms.
>>153017379
>>153015064>>153016862I was saying that there was plenty of reason for them to have bonded deeply by that point is all.
>>152996827>>152996971
>>153017029There are some aliens with an obvious kink component for sex. Wildvine, Upgrade, Snare-Oh, Swampfire, Spidermonkey, Goop. Even Ditto and Echo Echo.
>>153017029I know Blitzwolfer is more of Kai's thing, but I also thinks that Gwen would love to have sex with him.
>>153018166Ben's reaction is inaccurate. Gwen has said that before and he was grateful and not taken aback. He also says the same thing about her.
>>153012396>the weak should fuck the strongI was thinking more like Gwen being uncomfortable by how nice Ben is acting like in that one OV episode (but he'll still tease her a little). She'll also be impressed by how strong and capable he's gotten but is reluctant to admit it. Maybe she'll seek encouragement and advice from him. And Ben would be even more protective of her than normal since she's the child version of his beloved cousin.
I like fanart teenage Gwen redesigns that make her look more like her OS self. How do you find more? Please post more examples if you have them too.
>>153019461Best one I've ever seen
>>152996827I guess it would add a new dynamic to the story. They'd probably have to work harder to lile each other because they wouldnt have that blood connection anymore. Atleast Gwen's future design would be saved from that terrible flat chin she gets after the first series ended.
Gwen Sex
>>153018575Too bad this was never finished, would have been legendary.
>>153020144What?
>>153019454sexcellent!
We took 10 year old pussy for granted.
>>153019533Cute
>>153018786Which would Gwen prefer? Blitzwolfer or Wildmutt? Sure, Blitzwolfer is the classic werewolf that women fantasise about. But I think Gwen secretly desires being taken by a more animalistic brute like Wildmutt. Both are great don't get me wrong, but there is something in Gwen that makes her just want to get bent over and fucked like a bitch in heat.
>>153021639So cute! Cat Gwen when?
Gwen would still be just as ugly and a major cunt, so...
>>153022504This is so unrelentingly lewd without audio
>>153022504why as ghostfreak such a freak?
>>153022504i dont recall gwen ever making that expression again
If there is any DrawCHADs in here, I would like to request a Gwen image like pic-rel
>>153023097This Gwen's expression was indeed one of my favorite
Did you notice something about the way Ben is holding Gwen? He's grabbing her butt.
>>153023386>DrawCHADsall youre gonna get is sloppers
>>153023869 he was also holding Gwen's chest.
>>153023869That's what you need to do to lift someone up unless you're 10x stronger and/or bigger than them. >>153023927This is an edit, surely.
Gwen goes from not even paying Kevin any mind to having a crush on him for no reason. I hate this forced relationship, and I like Kevin as a character.
>>153017084>sprinkles some acid in her pussyJust a prank, bro.
>>153024868they had to quickly put out all of the incest fires that the og series caused. It was fast and heavy handed but had to be done for the sake of decency
>>153019533Kek. Anime-ass expression.
>>152996827That was the original plan for the two, and it would have worked great.
>>153024118>That's what you need to do to lift someone up unless you're 10x stronger and/or bigger than them.Stinkfly is
>>153026798>amazing you can walk around like that, Dweeb.
>>153024118>This is an edit, surely.Believe it or not, that's real. I played back that scene and she does make that face in a specific frame. It's a scene from the second episode where after Dr. Animo's giant bird abducts Gwen, Ben saves her and he has to fight off the bird while carrying Gwen.
>>153021213Gwen should've gotten a wedgie here too
Ben can't compete with Lucy.
>>153028794i miss when lucy had naruto whiskers
When did you accept that Ben is hotter than Gwen?
>>153028838Same
she needs frecklesand bruises
>>152996827only ways I can think of making it work if they're not related>their dads are best friends and they're the ones driving them across the country instead of grandpa max>Max is a friend of Ben's family and legal guardian/dad/grandpa of Gwen. for plot reasons, Ben's parents ship him off with them>it's actually a school-orchestrated cross-country tour during the summer, Max is ben's teacher, you need to add a lot more kid-characters
>>153020946I like this because it's exactly the kind of thing Ben would do to mess with Gwen. She'll get scared at first before realizing it's Ben. Then she'll react in her usual exasperated way, annoyed at his antics.
>>153019454>>153019461>>153019464I so love these aged up designs. They made her look like such a hag in Alien Force and Omniverse it just really pisses me off.
I just busted a huge fat load to an AI Gwen chatbot.Man. Ben is so lucky.
>>153021213Should've showed us her tits>>153021373Imagine crawling up her tight 10yo pussy like that
IT'S ONLY GOOD IF THEY'RE BLOOD RELATED
>>153030637I wish I could
>>153030642It adds flavor
>>153028792Agree, its unfair only Ben gets humiliating wedgies in series..
I'm addicted to Ben chatbots, grooming him is the best part
Gonna draw when I get home. Big Gwen ass is relevant to my interests.
>>152996827>but weren't actually related at the start of the series>>153030120>only ways I can think of making it work if they're not relatedI think the reason so many wish they had not been relatives was so the ship could be more widely accepted. A romance between the two would work not because they are related but in spite of it, their shared blood acts as a hurdle they defy much like how Romeo and Juliet defy their families. The struggle against the taboo strengthens their bond, as such incest works as a conflict to overcome. Modern audiences seem far more sensitive to incest even if it's used effectively in a story. Had Wagner been from our time, I wonder if people would stand his portrayal of heroic sibling lovers.
>>153032247clarify, where would I mess around with these
>>153036790Hey chest is so flat
>>153031778>big teenage bf/gf energyLove these. Make more.
>>153034006>>153035048>>153035576Unintentionally lewd. Go on...
>>152996827In hindsight was it a bad to make them cousins?
>>153037514She does do socks, and Lucy goes without.
>>153037569No, it was hot as fuck. Tsundere cousin romance beats the meat like nothing else.
>>153039970>dat sexy cosplay bondage maskThe showrunners sure did know how to provoke and tease, didn't they?
>>153040014Indeed they did
>>153040014>>153040067>bondage maskInteresting for you to say that since I believe that's the first episode Gwen gets tied up. She gets tied up upside down even.
>>153041488pls post screenshots
>>153017263Full where
>>153041550Here's a peek. I lazily took something I found on the internet.
>>153035940chub . ai is what I use
>>153042427Would have made for a good intro into a zone flash. Or it would have, way back when he wasn't afraid of loli content (and still making porn as a whole)
>>153043824>sheFTFY
>>153043835Stop conflating zone-tan with zone.
