>old dick tracy comics had a cartoony art style and goofy character designs but a mostly gritty and grim tone and featured lots of graphic death and violence Unironically why isnt their more examples of media like this? The only one that sorta comes to mind is samurai jack where its cartoonish in its art style but could be very filled with action and dark too while also being comedic.
>>153014390It used to be a lot more common in general, just look at Tintin.
>>153014430Tin Tin ruined modern American comics for me. I had all of them as a kid, loved them to pieces. Hard to transition to DC/Marvel sloppa where (depending on run) it's all too grimdark and serious yet nothing truly bad happens ever happens.
>>153014485Amerishart here who only saw that really cool tintin movie in 2011 when it came out but never saw it again, are the comics that good?
>>153014390Plenty of old European comics (mostly Franco-Belgian) are like this, also many of Tezuka's works
>>153014390It wasn’t just Dick Tracy, boy’s entertainment was more violent across the board and “concerned mothers groups” were railing against it the whole time. Things started to change when the Superman radio show abandoned tough-guy sensibilities because they found that cleaning up their act resulted in a lot of positive press/free advertising. The Silver Age really started there.The George Reeves Superman reverted to the darker tone at first because the radio show in its final years shifted from a daily serial for kids to a weekly crime drama for a more general audience like The Shadow. But it went through the same cycle the radio show did and ended up in the same kid-friendly place.It was a matter of keeping sponsors and the moms of America who bought the sponsors’ products for their kids happy, and it still is.
>>153014517Hell yeah, they are detailed and engaging
>>153014517Yes but the first three are a little rough, but IMO still worth reading. Cigars of the Pharaoh is where it really starts to pick up and it just kind of keeps getting better from there.
>>153014517I mean, I was exposed to tintin from ages 8-14 so hard to say how much of it is objective and how much is rose-tinted glasses.But I think it's great, one of the best comics ever. The comics tackle serious, real issues like war, drug smuggling, assassinations... The characters are often exaggerations and cartoony, but the subject matter is treated seriously. A good example is Captain Haddock, he's a schlubby alcoholic loser who often finds himself in slapstick and cartoony comedic situations. But when the story goes in to his ancestors and lost wealth... It's serious, no wink to the camera, no THAT JUST HAPPENED shit, there are gags but the story itself is serious. While he is the primary comedic relief in a relatively light hearted series he's allowed to have his moment.Violence is often bloodless, but still present. People die, they just won't bleed. Tin Tin does shoot people, shown with a frame of Tin Tin shooting, then showing the enemy on the floor.
>>153014654>It wasn’t just Dick Tracy, boy’s entertainment was more violent across the board and “concerned mothers groups” were railing against it the whole time.Why do women ruin everything even back then? Why are femoids always the biggest outraged moralfaggots that to be fun police all the damn time?
>>153014390Manga but Tezuka and Ishinomori (I know someone mentioned Tezuka but honestly just alot of the Showa era stuff)
>>153014390Usagi Yojimbo is really good about this
>>153014654The amount of violence in Tracy was an anomaly even back then, for a newspaper strip. Violent crime comic books became successful, but that sort of content didn't really penetrate the more controlled world of syndicated newspaper strips. Adventure strips were very popular but their level of violence rarely approached the starkness of Tracy.
>>153015930How did newspaper comics go from adventure strips like dick tracy to just Sunday funnies crap like garfield?
>>153017278Lack of spaceLack of (specific) talentLack of money to hire a staff for inking, lettering, and the general distribution of labor required for a timely high effort product Chasing a Snoopy/Garfield merchandise bonanza
>>153017278Lack of readershipComics were a bonus to keep families reading on top of the news.Lack of readership meant fewer newpapers allocating space for comcis and buying comics from the national syndicates.
>>153014698You know that Simpsons joke about young Ned Flanders acting out violently and claiming he was Dick Tracy.Stuff like that's why, for generations it was expected that people would be advised and guided by their literature. So rather than teach boys to not run riot in the streets and after school, they targeted the stuff they were shouting they wrere copying.
>>153014390OG Man in the Yellow Hat
>>153014390Heh, dick
>>153014390We're literally going through a Usagi Yojimbo storytime right now, dude. Just go read that.
>>153014390shame innit
Fuck Moon People (Sexually)
>>153017465>Stuff like that's why, for generations it was expected that people would be advised and guided by their literatureSo the whole thing comes back from a retarded old myth about how literature should affect people? Christ, retards literally have been thinking media has been making people into doing crimes for centuries at this point. When did that retarded ploy start?
>>153020626Yep
>>153020764https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sorrows_of_Young_Werther
>>153019552PFFFFT
