When I was a child, I thought this ending was good because the "villain" was defeated. But thinking about it now, wasn't that extremely cruel to this child? Obviously, he was a boy who bothered his sister and probably disrespected his parents, yes, that makes him a terrible child, but I don't think treating him as a complete "villain" is fair. Imagine what was going through his mind after this episode? Stuffing him with medication, daily psychology sessions, and probably paranoia, all before he was 18. Wow, I think I know who the villains were in the end.
shut the fuck up sid
He's a villain from the point of view of the toys who are the main characters. Is this that hard to understand for autists?
>>153017472Well, yeah, I kind of destroyed a lot of my toys and I'm not evil, and I think in this case he didn't even know they were alive to begin with.
>>153017472The protagonists are the toys. He's a villain to the toys. You can have antagonists that aren't complete monsters. All they did was scare the crap out of him and give him a warning about mutilating toys. It's not like he was killed or something.
>>153017483Lol lol lol
>>153017503>>153017495to be a "toy villain," even from the toys' perspective, it would imply that Sid consciously knew he was torturing living beings. Do you know what "villain" means? A villain is literally a role model character referring to someone who commits evil or unworthy acts for their own benefit; he didn't know they were alive. And I don't think traumatic paranoia is any less bad than death, and he could have killed himself.
>>153017573stfu sid simp
>>153017495No. Sid is a creative boy who made crafts and art with the resources he already had. This is based
>>153017472Kids who treat their toys like sid did deserve to be mistreated themselves. Honestly i hope sid got raped by his father for abusing all those poor toys.
>>153017611Hi sid's dad
>>153017611Lmao And how was he supposed to know that the toys were sentient? Imagine if in the world of Toy Story objects like paper or forks were alive—wait, they are alive after all Woody is the real villain for traumatizing him for life.>>153017472Sid did nothing wrong. Change my mind yes u cannot
>>153017611Retard take
>>153017472Who, besides schizophrenics, saw him as a "villain"? When I was a child, I only saw him as a strange and creative boy.
Sid riders, please >thought he was at summer camp!>They must have kicked him out earlyYes. Shitty person He'd probably become a drug addict before Andy even got to college.
>>153017677>movie portrays him as s villain>literally everyone sees him as a villain>contrarian ass anon thinks their opinion is the normlol lmao even
>>153017706I'm not the OP, but I don't think that proves he was a bad person. Just a product of his environment; His family life wasn't the best
>>153017713>anon thinks their opinion is the norm?
>to be a bad person by acting towards inanimate objects
>>153017472you have a point.>>153017483>>153017603>>153017611>>153017706you have serious issues if you try to baitnuke like that
>>153017472Being a child is thinking that Sid is just a normal, creative boy.Being an adult is realizing that Sid is the villain.
>>153017472Bro sits in a truck and uses mechanical arms to lift trash cans. Probably makes $35 per hour.
>>153017604>>153017472He stole his sister's and neighborhood kids' toys to destroy them. He's fucking up other people's property.
>>153017750You're the schizo anon. You.
You all need to rewatch the movie or stop giving your retarded opinions>steals his sisters toys and destroys them in her eyes and the eyes of the protagonists>he lies about destroying her toys and dolls to create his Frankenstein-esque monsters showing that he not only has been told what he is doing is bad but also understands it is something he should not be doing "whatever she says shes lying"This is what I remember without having to rewatch it
>>153017706>He'd probably become a drug addict before Andy even got to college.Hello, Woody! Do you know what my daddy did? Poop! He pooped!
He was acting like a total nigger at Pizza Planet, jumping up and down on the arcade games. Also he's constantly raining pieces of charred plastic all over his neighbor's lawns from exploding toys. Being destructive is fine, but keep it to your own fucking yard you little shit.
>>153017483fpbp
>>153017472Poor kid...
>>153017472People act like Woody and Buzz fucking murdered this child.He was a brat who got spooked.
>>153020241This, plus, he was fine in the sequels working as a garbage man, rocking out and having fun.
>>153019147You lost
>>153020241traumatize him
I love Bee Pop and there are no women like her, and that brings back nostalgia for Pixar movies from before 2010. They tried
>>153017472I'm sure he was fine after this
>>153017495>>153017503>>153017611>>153019147Sid doesn’t even know they’re alive.If you guys are going to take the moral implications of Toy Story’s premise seriously, you lost. Why? Bcause our entire relationship with toys is deeply immoral and disturbing.we’ve all been mutilating and abusing living creatures that cared about us as kids. If toys were sentient beings capable of pain, then it would be profoundly immoral to evenownthem, let alone mutilate or use them for our own pleasure Toy Story turns toys into chattel slavery
Sid simply had a better imagination and I doubt he would just discard them, only women would actually, like this girl>>153018715probably would repurpose them into something from his imagination.
Nah, fuck this kid and fuck you OP for defending him
>>153017503>It's not like he was killed or something.Meatcanyon would like to disagree.
>>153017472>Listen up chud I might to goonin but take a long look cuz soon I'll be troonin
>>153020843Hey Woody, insect, still crying over some stupid decision you made? Remember your jealousy over Buzz? Or leaving your group for a feminist?
>>153017472His father drank, did he beat him? And then he took out his anger on the toys, who considered him a villain, from their point of view, and traumatized him in the most sadistic way possible. If you want justice, then Woody, Buzz, and everyone involved should have been burned along with his father.
>>153020805Kek This anon has a platonic crush on this character ever since that thread Son, we're telling you that there are lesbians today, and that's all. Go back to 1700, maybe.
>>153020241The movie was released in 1995, so it's probably nearing 40 years old. If anything was going to go wrong, it's happening now.
Hold up. Wait a minute.>Sid>is one letter away from Cid>guys named Cid in Final Fantasy are usually genius engineers who build airships>Sid is a boy who likes tinkering with toys and intended to launch Buzz on a rocket>Toy Story has crossed over with Final Fantasy via Kingdom Hearts 3>conclusion: Sid is actually the Toy Story world's Cid
>>153020827Why do this read like a brazillian politician or lawyer defending a drug dealer?
>>153020805Cute
>>153020853Yeah, but who cares, Slink? I'm back now. And nothing will ever separate us again.
>>153021141:)
this movie always looked like complete fucking shit. honestly, western animation has just been one big fat ugly mistake.
>>153021568thoughbeit
>>153021568Keep crying loser
>>153021973keep crying...over what exactly? what am i meant to be seething at? toy story isn't really all that remarkable at all. nothing much to be crying at.
>>153021568Ragebait
>>153022038maybe what i said was ragebait to mentally stunted americans. but to the average person, it's perfectly valid to say that toy story looks like shit.
>>153017472He was a sadistic kid that got to taste his own treatmentHe deserved it
>>153020241>anons watch the scene where Woody tells Sid off for being a thug>get Vietnam flashbacks of their parents scolding them for being similarly badAiiieeeee I need my nu-Pixar trauma therapy films to make me feel better!
>>153017472I don't think the creators really thought that much about what they were saying with Sid, which is strange because the early years of Pixar were all about overthinking every little detail. But at the same time, nothing truly that bad happens to him. He gets spooked and runs off because he's just a mild threat to the safety of the toys that want to get back to Andy.I also think they didn't really read that deeply into Sid's whole situation because the Toy Story world is extremely fucked up when you realize that there are billions of toys and objects and knick-knacks that are all fully sentient, have complete memory of everything that ever happened to them, and are functionally immortal, but choose not to act against humans for... no real reason.
>>153022569Yeah it's one of those things you're just not supposed to get too worked up about. Like how the Speak & Spell is alive, but not the walkie talkies the army guys use to communicate with the other toys during Andy's birthday party.
>>153020791i accept your retardation sid>>153020827Stealing from his sister and destroying her toys makes him a villainHer telling on him, making him change suddenly and claim she is lying while running down and following shows he understands that is wrong and that there are even consequences to his actions
>>153022843Not reading
>>153022569>I don't think the creators really thought that much about what they were saying with Sid, which is strange because the early years of Pixar were all about overthinking every little detail.Could it be because Toy Story is a film with a perspective and development centered on the toys and not on humans? Did you think before writing your post before posing so formally? Sid, just like Andy, simply served as >the owner of the toys >and a mean boy from the toys' perspective that's all.
>>153022569Aside from the fact that he probably had paranoia at 13 and was so scared that he ran away from his sister with an immobile doll and was frustrated by no one believing him, perhaps being treated as crazy? Think for a moment. How would his friends treat him if they knew that he was attacked by evil toys? Yes. They would treat him as crazy and he would have paranoia about any toy. And worse, without the support of his family, which apparently wasn't very good
>>153017472>Sid Philips He had a surname??
>>153017472Sure, but from a toy’s perspective, he’s basically their equivalent to Shiro Ishii
>>153025120>>153025033Leave him alone
The real question isn't if Woody did the right thing. Why was a child living out torture and mutilation fantasies!? If he was doing this to animals, it was a clear sign that Sid is a sociopath. But there appear to be basically no adults in his life stopping him from playing with fires, powertools and explosives. He is clearly form a deeply broken household.Does Sid act out like this because it is his only way to release his frustration about his struggles? And now that toys are biting back, but his living conditions have not improved, where does Sid vent his anger?Has Woody kickstarted the mental breakdown of the next rat-crucifier?
>>153025711THISsid was already clearly traumatized. he's a mirror to andy, both fatherless children, but the difference lies in what broke up each of these families.
>>153024098>If you assume all this stuff we have literally no evidence for, and in fact, have counter-evidence for, than the toys fucked up his life.Or...he just got mildly spooked once as a kid, rationalized it away and then grew up into a normal adult. There's no 'lasting trauma' here, there's no 'paranoia.' There's a guy who got scared ONCE and then went on with his life.
>>153025767once he realized toys will never scare him again, and he should put his "toy torturing time" to honest virtues like studying, he probably lived a fairly happy life becoming a garbage man (a good job with virtually unlimited job security)
sid shitlips
>>153025834>>153025767Sameflag libtard
>>153017472>Lives out creepy fantasies by roleplaying as a doctor while mutilating his toys>Loves playing with explosives and blowing shit up at a young age >Destroys his sister's belongings>Was attempting to break shit at Pizza Planet>Obviously neglected by his parents (Mom was serving him Pop-Tarts and Dad was drunk asleep on the couch)You could excuse the first bullet point if we didn't see him engaging in his "fantasies" in much more destructive ways as listed. Woody and Buzz stopped Sid from growing up to be a class-A vandal who would probably get caught up in some arson case on a condemned property in his teenage years. If the cameo in TS3 is to be believed, then he grew up being a blue collar union worker that probably plays drums on the side for fun. I think they did him a massive favor.
>>153020241can imagine Sid lurking /x/ talking about his experience and others toys posting as anons tell him to kys
>>153026669Lmao
Sid Phillips plays Sid Meier's civilization monologuing like a bond villain as he nukes fr*nce wehn?
>>153024004i win
>>153025711That's just how some kids are. They want to strap fireworks to an old toys, or tear apart an old VCR just to see what's inside. The ones who torment small animals are violent psychopaths in the making though.
>>153020827Is this a reference to that one episode of China, IL.?
>>153017472Shut the fuck up Kevin Smith
>>153026130rude
>>153028376Honestly. Give the boy some legos and a few issues of popular mechanics and he'd knock it off.
>>153028376>>153029588The kid has Mechano's and powertools. He's not starving for 'creative expression'. Also, most autists/techies/whatevers don't re-enact torture scenario's when they disassemble a toaster.