Did the cartoon ever explain how he went from betraying Hamato Yoshi and taking over the foot Clan, to living in the Technodrome with a giant brain and only commanding robot Foot ninjas?Where did all his human minions go?
>>153025412your mom's house
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>>153025412>Where did all his human minions go?I don't think it was addressed in the series, but as I recall, that was the general idea behind Karai in Shredder's Revenge.
>>153025412You know, the repeated bumbling failures to take over a technologically inferior world is more Krang's fault for instantly hiring some backward ninja as his main henchmen who commands retarded street punks as enforcers. Krang made some seriously bad choices when hiring local earthmen to help his takeover of the world.
>>153025412has everyone iteration of TMNT gotten gradually worse?
>>153025669Since 2003 yes
>>153025412This is why I liked the 2012 series keeping Krang and Shredder as separate enemy groups with their own focus episodes. They are just too different with different goals in mind for villains. Shredder works for the deeper story based stuff and the ninja on ninja action.While Krang works better for the big picture save the Earth stuff.
>>153025453There’s a story for Karai in Shredders revenge?
>>153025881Not so much a story as the devs' idea for how she exists in the original cartoon's continuity.
>>153025765Even 2003 suffered rapid seasonal rot.Seasons 1-2 are kino. Very atmospheric.Seasons 5-7 are shameless toy commercials.Season 7 also did a horrible redesign of the characters for no reason.I understood it was always a toy commercial, but earlier seasons at least blended it pretty well.
>>153025784He often had conflicting objectives with Krang in the original series. He was obsessed with the turtles and Krang was always trying to open portals to Dimension X. It's like they were roommates for convenience.
>>153026228That's funny because the one VHS I still have stored away somewhere worked the opposite way.Shredder took Krang's miniaturizing ray and shrunk The World Trade center and other important landmarks to take over the world. He shows it to Krang and he says he doesn't care about his toy building collection, "where are those turtles?"
>>153026050What about seasons 3-4?
>>153025898Can you elaborate?
>>153026311Not him (and I can't believe he glossed over them), but 3-4 are when they start doing some of the darker shit the series is known for. 5 still has some rizz to it, but it is basically a toy commercial. Not a bad one, but it is one. 6-7 are just okay, and are more or less take it or leave it.
>>153026348Karai wasn't in the original cartoon. So when they added her as DLC, they sort of headcanoned their own idea for how she would fit in the cartoon's universe.
>>153025412First season. Only five episodes in length.Krang offered Shredder the advanced tech and resources (mutagen) for his operations in exchange for Shredder's help in developing what would become his robotic body. After the failure of the Foot robots, Krang talks Shredder into moving over to creating mutagen monsters. Rocksteady and Bebop were the only human cronies who agreed to the mutagen exposure and stayed with Shredder.
>>153026311I have memory-holed them.
>>153025412The turtles already killed/beat up the human ninjas so the Shredder asked the Krangster for help
I stopped following the 3D cartoon after they made an episode where a giant sasquatch was crushing on Donatello.
>>153026489Op but how does she exist in that continuity, is the question. Especially in regards to the human foot clan
>>153025412I always sort of figured he betrayed all of them until he was literally the last guy left.
>>153026752She's leading them, basically. They want to take the name back from Shredder.
>>153026228Plus Shredder was often trying to betray and usurp Krang using whatever MacGuffins he could get his hands on, not that it ever worked.
>>153025412I had an idea for a interval miniseries that covered this. Krang is captured and banished from Dimesion X where is body is destroyed when he tries to fight off his deportation.Shredder is building up his Foot Clan into a criminal enterprise in Japan with human troops, but there are some people in his gang already starting to challenge him for leadership.He finds Krang's severely burned head, still alive.Intrigued, he keeps the head secret. Krang asks Shedder to help him heal. In exchange, he can help replace Shredders men with loyal stronger robots troopsFollowing Krang's instructions, Shedder has the Foot begin stealing parts and equipment although he won't tell them why. Some of the foot begin planning to overthrow him. Krang slowly heals through sheer brainpower, the head slowly morphing into a autonomous brain with face and tentacles.These rogue Foot finally challenge Shredder, but it's too late. With Krang's help, he has already built robot Foot soldiers and decides he no longer need THEM.Having taken care of his traitorous former men, Shedder learns that his old master Homato Yoshi is alive in New York. Krang has healed enough into the form we know him as. He begins working up plans for more equipment, including a body and mobile fortress, and Shedder gets ready to move to NY to expand his empire
Sounds like something Saturday Morning Adventures can cover.
>>153025412they live in Uncle Phil's poolhouse
>>153026752>>153026782Somewhat accurate to the original comics. Karai in the mirage TMNT was a Foot Clan council member and outranked Shredder, who was only in charge of the New York branch.
>>153025412The cartoon does not really admit it was Shredder that mutated Splinter. The comic on the back of the toys claimed that. >>153026501Shredder actually mutated the rest of the gang too, they only appeared in the background of another episode. Not sure why they were kept locked up after that.
>>153028947>The cartoon does not really admit it was Shredder that mutated Splinter.Yes it does. When Shedder is talking to Krang in the second ep, Krang bring up how Shredder tried to kill Splinter with the mutagen but instead it mutated him.
>>153028947They finally made toys out of those guys
>>153029057fun stuff
>>153025412No. The weird thing is that a lot of issues seem to stem from changing the story to be more network friendly and toy friendly but they didn't have to, they just made the changes seemingly without any thought put into how little sense it would make and really just cared about making sure nobody would complain.In the original story, Yoshi flees Japan because he literally manslaughters Shredder's brother for beating his girlfriend, then Shredder comes after him when he's establishing a new branch of the Foot he can control and kills him, then the mutation of the pet rat is an unrelated incident that allows Splinter to get revenge years later when Shredder has been a crime lord for a while. That wasn't deemed OK for children's TV at the time (and really all adaptations have softened it in some sense) and didn't really feature any elements that a toy company would like but most of the other adaptations handle it better.With the 1987 cartoon, Yoshi is merely made to look as if he would attack someone with a knife in the open, goes to America without money and crawls down a sewer instead of just getting a job, then there is a completely unexplained gap between Shredder becoming the new leader and him ending up in America allied with an alien who gives him mutagenic goop. He then does not simply kill Yoshi but instead pours the goop into his home hoping he would just step on it and "be destroyed", which happens when he decides to clean the turtles in said goop with his bare hands. He then turns into a rat despite the rules being that he should turn into the last thing he touched, which were Turtles. Then either the Turtles master martial arts in a few weeks or Shredder just doesn't use the resources he gained from the alien to take over the world for several years.You see what I mean? The revised version is more child friendly but doesn't make any sense. It's like they mindlessly ripped out what they weren't allowed to keep, put in what they had to.
>>153029880Mirage TMNT also let the turtles drink, swear, and visit someone who lived on top of a porn shop.
>>153029880>With the 1987 cartoon, Yoshi is merely made to look as if he would attack someone with a knife in the open, goes to America without money and crawls down a sewer instead of just getting a job, then there is a completely unexplained gap between Shredder becoming the new leader and him ending up in America allied with an alien who gives him mutagenic goop. He then does not simply kill Yoshi but instead pours the goop into his home hoping he would just step on it and "be destroyed", which happens when he decides to clean the turtles in said goop with his bare hands. He then turns into a rat despite the rules being that he should turn into the last thing he touched, which were Turtles. Then either the Turtles master martial arts in a few weeks or Shredder just doesn't use the resources he gained from the alien to take over the world for several years.>You see what I mean? The revised version is more child friendly but doesn't make any sense. It's like they mindlessly ripped out what they weren't allowed to keep, put in what they had to.That was what the whole OP question was about. there is some serious missing information between Yoshi being framed as a traitor and then Yoshi is living in a New York sewer while Shredder is living in the giant space fortress of an alien brain. The cartoon might have been better off not bothering to give the little origin that it had in the first place.
>>153025784Shredder and Baxter with the Foot Ninja robots should have been one set of villains. While Krang leading Bebop and Rocksteady should have been the other set of villains. with the show alternating between the two. Shredder gets the inept robot minions while Krang makes inept mutant minions out of random humans sometimes and send them on missions.
>>153030023But then we’d lose out on Krang and Shredder’s interactions, literally the best part of the show.
>>153030075Hear ye, hear ye
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>>153025412>Where did all his human minions go?They couldn't hang with the Krang.
>>153029880It's funny, David Wise, like a lot of people, got so wrapped up on the "how does a rat learn martial arts!? "thing when the cartoon origin has so many more leaps in logic.The comic mutagen is effectively something that gives animals sapience and the capacity for skills. Pretty much all the comic mutates are prodigies in their field if not typical geniuses. Leatherhead was almost able to keep up with the Utroms, which was part of the reason for his loneliness when they left. It would be easiest to say the mutagen is basically an evolution chemical meant to get creatures of other planets up to around their level of intelligenceThen there's the fact that either Playmates or the cartoon writers seemed to think "retromutagen" meant something that mutates despite the name "retro" in it
