Been re-watching and pretty good so far, wonder if the hate comes from the later seasons though. Think it's definitely craig's second best series right below ppg in my opinion. What do you anons think?
>>153037168Flash animation + mean-spirit humor = the most rancid show you will ever watch.
>>153037184>mean-spirited
>>153037168Loved it as a kid but haven't really watched it since, I remember really wishing Coco cards or whatever it was were real. Another favorite was the cookie episode.
>>153037184The animation is quite good especially for 04, and it can be mean-spirited at times. Though it usually works out, and the character gets what they deserve, typically Bloo.
>>153037208Ok yeah this ep was crazy, it really had me getting into that feel of opening a card pack damn them. Makes me wonder if half the show was just getting kids into dumb stuff, like the cookie ep making me want to actually do my fundraiser that year. The series has many comfy or iconic eps, one of my faves being the horror episode purely because it's so silly but also has a fun faux horror vibe showing the house at night.
I like the show, I feel like some people online overstate the mean-spiritedness of it, either because the whimsical art style clashes with it or because of Mr. Enter's influence. One of my favorite episodes is Good Wilt Hunting, I thought it was neat we got a peek at some of the imaginary friends' backstories, plus Wilt is my favorite character so it was cool to have a double-length episode focused on him.
>>153037168Everyone hates Bloo. For some reason, he was my mom's and mine favorite in the show.
I've been re-watching it, too, and I've noticed that the most hated episodes are mostly around season 3; "Camp Keep a Good Mac Down", "Imposter's Home for Um... Make 'Em Up Pals", and "Foster's Goes to Europe". Season 2 only had two episodes(which were both 11 minutes), and season 4 had two 22-minute ones.
>>153037246Yeah, I remember the premire of this show kinda being like an hour long movie that I caught and I was really excited for it to be a series.They also had an online game that was a lot of fun I played a lot. It was just a bunch of minigames but I think it had customizable characters and weekly codes they would announce on the show for stuff.
>>153037256Yeah honestly this, mr. enter has done horrific damage to sensibility. I remember because of him many people call EEnE mean spirit/torture porn. He coined torture porn for squidward.......which he was right about then kept bringing it up in every show he saw. I used to watch him as a teen and will admit think he got to me too til I actually rewatched some of those shows and was like. Ohhhhh this guy's just retarded, literally they are mostly great with a couple bad eps. I thought good wilt hunting was a movie? Like, doesn't Foster's officially have 3 movies: the first ep/pilot movie, then Good Wilt Hunting, then Destination Imagination? But it was a great one also fun seeing how wilt got all fucked up, though no one calls out that it's kind of fucked he's canon handicapped/crippled. I thought he was more a ragdoll or something, but nope dude's arm got crushed so bad he had to get it amputated like crazy lore in hindsight.
>>153037246I loved when Mac went into sugar rush. They warn you he can't have any sugar, thinking it's just a dumb rule, then a single grain makes him go Speedy Gonzalez on crack. First time I ever saw that joke (later I saw it happen to Todd and Rod, but not to the same effect).
>>153037218EEnE, Foster and Johnnh Bravo are the only cartoons (from that time) I remember where the main cast would get punished for their bad actions, or in other words, lose almost all the time. I can remember it happening in other shows, but on rare occassions.Squidward is like his own category, cause it's like a recurring joke the universe hates him (most of the time for being misserable towards everyone).
>>153037290Bloo was actually my favorite, at the start, but his flanderization really ruined him.
>>153037168I watched some a few days ago. I don’t know why but the flash animation absolutely does not do the designs nor the show any justice, like it needs an extra punch of actual frame by frame animation
>>153037290Honestly bloo is great, he's a good brat/antagonist for the eps. Also he usually gets his comeuppance a bit like eddy from EEnE. I could never fully hate them because they are hilarious even the first official ep Store wars. Dude is literally taking everyones money as a bus fee because HE'S BROKE. Then he bullies and teases coco for being a "brokie" and then he spends all ep stealing and being a brat. Coco works enough to get the chair he wanted to get madam foster's. Then he gets kicked in the shin like he did everyone else. It's a funny conclusion and only works because bloo is such a brat.>>153037314The europe ep is hated? guess I can't remember since all I remember from that one is >I'M GOING TO EUROPE I can see later seasons though being well as they get flanderized>>153037330God I kind of hate you for reminding me of the peak days of cartoons. The CN games were so great, like they don't even do that anymore those used to be so fun. Every show had at least 2-3 games minimum. Also reminds me they were all in FF and Punch time explosion. Now theirs basically nothing like that even KND had a character builder too
>>153037337He's self conscious about it in the pilot, he's the ond to bring it up when Mac and Bloo can't stop looking at him (for how tall he is).The thing is, it never got in the way of his everyday life. He was completely used to it.
>>153037342Nah it's worse than just speedy, dude became a whole demon. I kind of wanted a ep of goo meeting sugar rush mac, and getting a taste of her own medicine in a way. Also think it's a fun concept for such a responsible boy like mac>>153037395I mean I'd be miserable too if I was squidward, also yeah those shows all really loved to keep their main cast/mc in line with abuse and losses.
Speaking of Foster's, did anyone else kind of wish they did more with Terrance?
>>153037493It must be hated because Mac is working so hard for everyone to have their vacation on Europe, only to be undermined by EVERYONE because of how dense nd mood swingy they are. Not only that, but after ALL that, barely reaching the airport in time, it turns out he didn't have the tickets with him. They get back home, everyone's mad at him for THAT (as if he wasn't stressed enough from all he had to do), maning him feel sad, worst is Bloo for berating him.Turns out, Madam Foster stole them from his backpack and went with her friend and Eurotrish instead.It's just awful to see Mac suffer so much and be rewarded with hate.As a side note, kinda hilarious the only good PPG games were the flash ones, while the console ones were crap, how many others suffered that fate?
>>153037612Fuck Terrance, I loved to hate when he showed up.
>>153037612Terrance and Bendy episode would be hell on earth.
hot in topeeeeekaaaaaaaa
>>153037761I love to hate him too, but as someone with a older bro similar age gap. I super hated terrance but as I got older I realized I was a bit of a smart ass and that my big bro had a lot of bs going on. I've slowly grown to sympathize with terrancePlus theirs a lot of bg stuff implying he has more to him than it seems. I also just love the older sibs that are like "hey only I can bully them" angles.>>153037766Terrance would whip bendy into shape. Honestly as much as I just simped for terrance. I do love how much of a menace he truly was he even could bully the friends at times even educardo I remember in the red ep when he sees mac, mac is so scared he tries to and fumbles through talking it out with terrance and terrance just says "Run" mac is so shocked he says "What" he tells him to fucking run. He wanted the chase that's a true bully right there
>>153037766It's crazy how much Bendy is so widely hated even though he only appears in one episode. I can't think of any other one-time characters with that kind of impact.
the theme song is fire
>>153037757True most of the time mac didn't deserve any bad end moments. Also forgot about that stuff, really though mac was almost too responsible.idk honestly with the ppg, but also now we are getting a flash avatar game. That looks like just a slightly better version of that old game where you could make your own character. But really though bloo usually deserved his hate mac didn't. Like watching the puppy episode now and bloo is such a brat he literally hate's PUPPIES. They write bloo like a villain so bad who hates puppies
>>153037904Yeah people actually like terrance
>>153037904he was too relatablea lot of us have encountered a little psycho like that at some points in our childhood
>>153037983As fucked up as it is, this is true. I remember a boy like this, just an asshole and a menace to the teacher and everyone. For no reason he just liked getting people in trouble or causing problems.
>>153037168I love it, great show and the flanderization is waaaay overblown, it never loses it’s charm through the fínalePpg had way worse flanderization honestly
>>153037256I feel like it's mainly just because Lauren Faust worked on Foster's and because of how wholesome My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic was, people expected Foster's to be just as wholesome.
>>153038242Yeah but didn't ppg end around the same time as FH? So realistically, the flanderization lasted longer, and the style change hit as well. Plus by then Craig was already working on other ideas and series.He abandoned his babies
>>153037757Think a better version of this is, the "adoptcalypse now" ep. Basically mac works hard to keep the friends there and is punished but also talked to about how he was being childish. Good episode for mac's more childish side he wanted to help but was scared to see his friends go. An is punished still even after learning his lesson. In the euro ep guess he's more just punished for not putting his foot down
>>153037904Worst part to me is that Bendy has such a sick design and its wasted.
>>153038296To be fair, seasons 5 and 6 were done by different team, due to Craig working on the movie.
I never found Cheese funny.
>>153039752As a kid I did, but as an adult I find him obnoxious as hell.
>>153039752Me neither
>>153037841When I was a kid, I didn't stop to think how Bloo is able to defeat Terrance when he was easily equally bullied in the pilot. I was just happy to see him outsmart him, making him beat himself and protecting Mac. It was one of the rare episodes where Bloo was a good person.And before you say it, I'm not counting how he bullied Red, but how he understood he wasn't bad and showed him mercy and friendship
>>153037904When people mention it didn't make sense they would believe him over the older friends who were actually well behaved, because he played the victim card and there was no satisfying karmic end, I can see why.
>>153038296And look where that left them.It's a shame Craig's career is trested so badly. Although, I'm not having THAT much faith in his revivals (content wise).
>>153039658Of FH or PPG, cause I assumed FH only had 4 seasons but I really would rememberBut yeah when you spread yourself thin it's gg>>153041420Dude of course, his new series is a Baby show anyway. It's literally made for toddlers. If it was a direct reboot just falling from the last season I might give it a shot. But it's literally stayed to be pre school and just bloo supposedly
>>153041335But bloo was outsmarting and helping with terrance even in the movie. Plus once he was out of the house he was kind of free so maybe he got even more confident in how he got his revenge. Since no need to worry about mom being mad at him or mac anymore. It really is a rare good boy bloo ep, like dude bullies red not because he wanted to but because he thought he was in with terrance. But when he saw he was a big softie he realized he was just as bad as terrance. Which is hilarious since then they demolish terrance.I still love terrance as a bully big bro, and as a doofy dumb kid/teen. I do wish they did give him some more story relevance dude what is his beef with bloo.
>>153041363I did want more karmic just end, but seems to be implied he's no longer at the home. But yeah sometimes they did that like the whole clown nose kid ep. >>153038904Idk about sick it's a good design idk why, someone said the flash animation didn't really help with the designs. But the way they'd animate some friends really killed it when it came to giving them expressions.Bendy had such a asshole face and vibe when he was about to fuck over a friend. But then vice versa his pleading "innocent" face worked too. Idk what bendy is based on reminds me a bit of the grinch or a thing from dr seuss maybe.Also sick terrance art, dude still funny to me terrance feelslike the stranger in his own house. Mac and his mom look similar and have similar clothes style, then you have terrance with a mullet shit teeth and plaid shirt
>>153041506Sure, the preschool stuff (and I do 't know who said it would likd Bluey) means I' m not the target. What I'm talking about is his change in mentality, that's why I'm not confident in enjoying his new PPG as much as I did the classic. Not to mention the idea in and on itself of making FH a preschool show and that PPG is going to be 3D.If his new humor is going to be like what we saw in the PPG Rules special, then it's over for me.
>>153041589I will say, my favorite moment of Terrance was when that pink friend got obsessed with Bloo. The background joke is that there's a soap opera everyone's hooked with, even Terrance, who quickly chsnges the channel when Mac walks by. He was hugging a pillow and so distressed with the drama.It was great to see him team up with Eduardo for the underground friends fights.
>Howdy do, I love yo-ACK
>>153042026One of the best screams in all of media
>>153041952Wait what change did he have? Also probably why kid cosmic was so mid to me. I think old school animation/art world craig would have been able to capture me more. But it really was more just eye candy of a show. Idk what I'd have wanted from kid cosmic but just felt a bit disappointed.See I feel a 3D PPG can work but honestly craig, really has to lock in to make that good. As their is some good 3d I felt that one PPG special was good, also craigs one benefit like the ppg comics is. We've had so much shit ppg content the bare minimum will make fans hype.>The ppg reboot>PPG Z>PPG CWWe are so desperate for decent at this point we'd probably worship the ground he walks on if he just writes 4-5 out of 10 eps. At least he didn't fuck it up kek. Ok anon in his defense that episode is literally almost 20 years old you got to let it go. Plus let's be real he probably just wanted it to be over at that point. >>153042000YES! I just saw the berry ep and yeah this and red makes me think terrance is secretly sensitive or something. It's just funny it was twice in almost a row, dude makes two loving and kind imaginary friends unlike the monster friends other teens make. Then he watching a soap opera, and gets mad at mac for ruining his stories. But he also instantly tries to hide fact he's watching it from mac.I want more terrance lore, and def would have been cool for a terrance stands up to a bully for mac ep. Also yep the eduardo ep was fun but also crazy as showed terrance was honestly ridiculously strong. He can make Ed scared (not that hard) but also he's knocked ed off of him in other eps too. But him peeing himself when he was getting shocked was hilarious and then Ed calls him the big baby. Wish we had more terrance eps god that underground friend fights was cool. Though since we know teens make more dangerous friends what do they do about them? Honestly now I'm reminded of those old FH debates about friends>>153042026This kills me every time
>>153042279Haha, to be fair, I will let it go depending on what his new content is. I see it as a cautionary tale. Some changes in his mentality... look, I barely remember three that keep me skeptical>He said he regrets making the Mime Clown ending, cause it was too meanMany think the same (myself included), that was overkill. Need to rewatch it tho to see it right. But, I'm worried he might tone down the meanness of the girls, I don't remember if he said it, but that's why we enjoy them, the flip from cute to absolute menaces.>Change in humorThat's why I'm so hooked on that last episode he made of PPG. People say it IS heavily influenced by his work on Foster, which I don't remember being so random and dumb. And I didn't watch KC, his last work so far.>FH preschoolOk, I'm trying to remember really hard his twits where he explained why he took this decision. He said that this is because he's now a family man, so he wants to make cartoons he could aim to his kids.I think... that last one is what has me more concerned and speculating he would tone down a lot of the meanness and violence. And I'm also taking into account how people can change with age, nothing assures me he will be the same creative mind as he was ages ago.In short, I have hope, but keep it realistic.
>>153042650Also, forgot to add, I take into account how much the network will cut his creativity short.
>>153042650True, really I get ya I just want to have hope you know. Also "Three"??? what did you mean by thatYeah the mime ending was pretty mean but it's also hilarious, that's the problem with the whole "mean spirited" argument theirs "funny mean spirited" and theirs "Annoying/no point mean spirited" the clown ep ending is funny asf because like why they shit on him so hard. But also he's not a main character and the cast almost died to him that was the closest and creepiest ep to me as a kid. So the clown getting his shit rocked was hilarious but you realize damn he was a victim but still giggle at the pain even as you get older.>But, I'm worried he might tone down the meanness of the girlsAN THEIR IN LIES THE PROBLEM! Basically everyone says shows were overly mean and dark and that lead to modern shows where the mcs can never be wrong or never get deserved punishments just a wholesome talking too and now every antagonist is a secret good boy. The thing is some shows were overly mean spirited for sure, I can think of many eps that fall into brutal but that was the fun. PPG best and most iconic scenes are them being little monsters like the iconic bubbles beating up the dog or buttercup sadistically teasing a beaten begging mojo jojo. Yeah it sounds fucked up but it's hilarious and the pay off works, another ep that's great but many shit on and over analyze is the "Snake crush ep" basically everyone over thinks it but it's a good ep and a lesson for girls. Snake wasn't being a creep but rather just using buttercup and see now I can never see Craig or anyone making the "feminist" or "Snake" ep again. as it'd be bad optics, Also I think foster's is a bit more "random" cause well you can make a creature for any joke. Like the tongue foot guy or the chicken friend etcSad you didn't watch kid cosmic it's fine, it's just wwell idk a bit mid. Like I wanted dude to do more with it I guess idk, also did you watch wander over yander???
>>153042782We for sure in the FH show but idk about ppg as that's the og concept. also isn't dude like 40 or something his kids should be grown by the time FH comes out lol. They haven't talked about it since 2021 or so, honestly with how CN is right now I assume they just soft cancelled or are re pitching it. I think they were leaning to baby shows and when that didn't work now they are leaning to reboot heavy follow ups aka, all the AT stuff and lost tapes RS etc. I'd hope this actually gets him to have more freedom.I 100% believe the whole OH this is for my kids is a cap they made him say. Because he knew for years kids were watching his shows.I can accept this I'm tired of getting my hopes up too bro. It's hard watching everything I love go to shit or see consistent mid and hope it'll be better. But hope is also good the comics seem like they've been fine based on what some /co/ bros have said.
In the current climate of people clamoring for "representation", I think it's neat that there's characters with clear disabilities. Wilt is missing an arm and can only see out of one eye, Goo clearly has some form of ADD/ADHD, and there's an episode where a "seeing-eye" friend gets separated from his blind kid. None of it feels preachy, they're just kind of a part of the characters.Also Cheese is obviously retarded but that's moreso played for laughs than anything
