Bump if you're reading.
>>153049775PAAAAACKWAAAATCHHHH
>>153049745I'm not sure this thread will need to be bumped to be honest with up OP
>>153049745Bump since I’m reading!TOTAL PAUL DEATH!
It is surprising how calm this thread is.>>153049775The moment
And that's it. If you liked this, support your LCS or whatever.
>>153049775>stabbed on the fourth pageI guess this is why the preview was so short.
>>153049796>>153049806I like how they took a moment to say that the Jackpot bracelet is an absolutely awful thing to rely on in times of crisis.
>>153049924ybh I don't think Paul really deserves this, like a lot of the book is focused on his death when he is such a nothing character
>>153049869That was a thank you for Paul.
>>153049869>>153049877>Spider-Man makes everything worse by interfering in a fight against a mass-murdererSame as it ever was
>>153049918thats a pretty cool design
>>153049816>>153049819It’s played as a big sacrifice on Paul’s part, but all he did was distract Torment for a few seconds before he inevitably bled out. He offered to be taken instead, but really he could have said anything to distract Torment. What I’m saying is that a hero would have offered to suck Torment’s dick.
>>153049836Paul first appeared in April 2022, managed to last a whole four years.
>>153049869Fuck offff Peter oh my goddddd
I'm out of the loop, why is Eddie dying? Cancer's back?
>>153049952This raises questions, keyfabe or he was blindsided?
Good Lord, what a shit issue. Comparing this to DeFalco should land that guy in jail. >>153049796So why is the suicide watch working without the runes? Paul was fooling her?
>>153049737Trash.
>the usual rippers stood in solidarity with Paul and didn't release the issue early like they usually do>so someone ripped it on their own and posted hereHaving difficulty picking who's more based here boys
Rip Terry Long
>>153050049He's joking of course, he and White planned this crossover out.
>>153050060A consistent trait of Paul, is that these small inconsistencies make him far worse than he was intended to be.
>>153050095At least Terry Long managed to impregnate the one he was with. Marvel was too lazy to for that.
>>153050049He's just playing it out.
>>153050149The advanced math constructs masquerading as children made the impregnating obsolete
>>153050149He also had real children
>>153050180>outup
>>153050095Ewing also killed him in AGL
>>153050212I'm also a big fan of Akame Ga Lewd
>>153049836>>153049843The sad thing is there's a non-zero chance he lives. Not saying I want that to happen, but they kind of just left there
Now that Paul's unlimited power is no longer shackled by his human vessel, he is truly unstoppable. The Age of Paul begins now!
>>153049816When i ask why dont they make Paul a bad guy or agent of mephisto, people say:>they dont want to immortalize Paul or make him a bigger part of MJs life than he needs to be. its good that Ewing is making him a goofWell, here we are. A heroic death and a martyr. He proved to be a bigger man than anyone else.
>Marvel Comics announces Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson wedding in Amazing Spider-Man #1000 as April Fools' Day prank>Last updated >7 minutes ago>Marvel Comics announced the wedding of Spider-Man's Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson in the upcoming Amazing Spider-Man #1000 issue, written by Joe Kelly. The announcement was revealed to be an April Fools' Day prank.marywhorekekbros... not like this...
He'll probably be fine. The issue released on April Fool's after all
>>153050267Yeah, this feels like an elaborate April Fool's joke. Sure, saving Dylan is a priority, but no one really puts in an effort to save him... plus Torment's been all focused on needing to rely on "the Spiral" for who he kills, and if Paul's not on that, does it break what he can do? Maybe I'm giving the story more credit than it deserves though.
>>153050333If he is supposed make the audience angry about him, then martyr is the best way to go.
>>153049908This retardation that Eddie and MJ need to be bonded with a symbiote or they'll die is so fucking retarded.Bring back Eddie's King in Black powers for fucks sake. Let him ascend proper.
>>153050030Paul was dealt with via all the pomp and ceremony of a guy having to clean up poop left behind by someone else’s dog.
>>153050333Yeah, I've said that all along and I'm worried this shit is going to get in the way of MJ being able to move on. Even if you break up with someone after 5-6 years, them getting brutally murdered (especially when it's tangentially because of you) is going to stick with you and be hard to get over, especially if you were already mourning lost kids, and almost died yourself if not for bonding to an alien that listens to all of your thoughts.
>>153050498ok corgo
>>153050420he is suppose to keep MJ and Peter apart. thats what makes people angry.
>>153050505At least one future Venom cover is going to be like this.
>Died saying he was nothing>No one cares or mourns him for a second>Torment even says he’s nothing to anyone>Even throws in the “no one’s true love” jabYeah this was as cleanly thrown under the bus as you can get. This was an utter humiliation ritual for the character.
>>153050585That is too much emphasis. Just have him die anonymously in a car accident or something.
>>153050585>saves Dylan's life, proving that he's a real father to Dylan and would have been a great husband to MJDid you even read the comic? Paul won.
>>153050585>>No one cares or mourns him for a secondApparently you missed the page where Dylan breaks down and hugs VenoMJ in the sewers exactly because Paul died?
>>153050318We’re never going to see him as anything more than a wacky reference years from now. Start reading Deadpool, and Gwenpool. Leave us alone.
>>153050668>>153050641I really think it’s normal for a kid to cry after seeing someone die, even Paul.
>>153050750That's called mourning.
>>153049775There it is.
>>153050379where? i want to see.
>>153049775DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD
>>153049775if death were permanent, this moment could be relished in forevermore
>>153050571>The yellow car.How old is this comic?
>>153050909He made it up because he wants attention.
>>153050699Paulin' Time never ends. Killing Paul only ensures that he comes back stronger.
crazy how the entire story so far was Spider-Man, Venom and Carnage are jobbing to a guy with Shocker gloves
>>1530509511970s.
>>153051026Conservation of Ninjutsu. Spider-Man alone would have won easily, but being with others makes them all weak.
>>153051026That's a misreading of the story, it's been Carnage orchestrating things the whole time and it's honestly been pretty kino so far.
>>153050047Dylan stabbed him at the end of Venom War because of stupid shit with Meridus and Carnage using Eddie and Anti-Venom to corrupt all the symbiotes. That also severed his King in Black powers, which also resurrected Knull, who is the designated janny in black.
>>153050830
>>153050983Nope, I saw it too. It was on X's sidebar.However, per usual, Elon's bot was hallucinating nonsense. A lone poster made something claiming it was from Marvel, and he got hit with so many reports his account was banned. Grok immediately called it official.
>>153051042> In any martial arts fight, there is only a finite amount of ninjutsu available to each side in a given encounter. As a result, one Ninja is a deadly threat, but an army of them are cannon fodder.
>>153049816A real hero
>>153051103
>>153049816my HERO
>>153051025Pauling time has officially ended. Maybe make a change.org petition to bring him back or something.
>>153049816Dylan didn't deserve bravery like this. He did nothing but complain and insult Paul since he moved in, Paul should've just let Torment kill him.
>>153051259Turned out Dylan was tsundere for Paul.
>>153049836Should have drawn Paul shitting himself with a big sound effect South Park style for maximum tragedy and a truly heroic sendoff.
>>153051239As long as you accept Paul into your heart, Paulin' Time will never end for you. Plus we all know Heaven in the Marvel Universe has revolving doors instead of pearly gates, there's a strong chance he'll come back.
>>153051177>>153051233Torment is a hero…
>>153049816Spider-BITCH could never dream of being this heroic
>>153051287Ezekiel’s still dead.>who the fuck is EzekielExactly
>>153051277Paul shouldn't even have let Dylan live in his apartment to begin with. If the little ingrate hated living with Paul so much he should have just tried his luck with S.C.A.R. instead.
>>153051259>>153051277>>153051304Torment saved Dylan from getting groomed and molested by Paul. Torment is a goddamn hero.
>>153051348I know who Ezekiel Sims is, actually. At least he got to appear in the Madame Web movffffffhahahahaha!
>>153049775KWAB
>>153051354Paul knew he had to rape Dylan to maintain sufficient testosterone to remain on this plane after Dylan emasculated him by mocking him a few times. Paul was too beta, and failed to seal the deal, resulting in his death.
MYSTERY NIGGA
interview about this issue>https://aiptcomics.com/2026/04/01/venom-unleashed-19-death-spiral-2/
>>153049816woah this is like that scene in Guardians of The Galaxy 2!
>>153051409It's Jimmy Hoffa
>>153051379Maybe Paul can show up in Madam Wev 2, or a cartoon spinoff. Maybe he’ll end up parodied, like Clone Saga! The possibilities are endless!Paul is still dead and only coming back for cameos just to be belittled more, friendo. Just like Terry Long…
>>153051362>>153051404Dylan didn't even deserve to be raped. Yeah, I said it. Lord knows a good hard dicking would probably mellow the little bastard out, but he doesn't deserve to touch Paul's god-crafted uru penis that shoots lightning bolts when he cums and has two Cosmic Cubes for testicles.
>>153051433He's in the new Spider-Man movie, that's something. It would be even funnier if they reveal MJ's new boyfriend to be Paul now, just when everyone thinks they've seen the last of him.
>>153049952I don’t know, he seems to enjoy getting shit on. I’m telling you he gets off on it
>>153049775F
>>153051458We like MCU Paul here.
>>153049775Oh no...>>153050095Terry Long was nothing compared to this hippie
>>153051409Flash? Maybe Flash gives his Anti-Venom suit to Eddie since Eddie brought Flash back to life, and then a different symbiote bonds with Flash and he takes on the Spider-Man look for obvious reasons.
>>153051458>It would be even funnier if they reveal MJ's new boyfriend to be Paul nowNo worries, he can keep fake MJ in that timeline.
So who do anons suspect to be Torment real identity?
>>153051653It's Mac Gargan.
>>153051653An OC.
>>153051653Harry again
>>153051653New character. This is for a reality tv slasher film by aliens.
>>153051653Carol Danvers.
>>153051757>>153051818They already confirmed it's not a new character. It's Mac Gargan, history with all the characters, the spiral is to do with Knull, it's prelude to Queen in Black.
>>153051653I struggle to care, even if he's Gargan. So what?
>>153051653Carlie Cooper
>>153051042>>153051176this is actually a fun reason why everything is shit. To many spider people and no one is special. to reduce Pauls influence they didnt need to kill him, but introduce more Pauls.
>>153051866Where was this confirmed? Because based on the story itself, it comes across as an entirely new person who has a secret identity, not some previously established character who suddenly has a new gimmick. There's no mystery build-up here. We're getting his origin next month.
>>153051653De-MODOKified George Tarleton.
>>153051599And what are those obvious reasons, hmmm?
>>153051866Mac sucks though.
>>153051967His origin is he's Mac Gargan brainwashed as a previous Knull cultist, but whose connection was severed when Eddie Brock became King in Black, leaving him in a psychotic state with some mediocre psychic abilities. That's it, I know it's lame, oh well. His motivation is to kill everyone connected to the return of Knull so Knull can't come back. When they finally beat him, the twist is that he was actually trying to prevent something terrible from happening, and now it's going to happen.
>>153051599Shouldn't flash look like agent spider man then?
>>153052024Sounds like fanfic to me. The number of people who would have these details is small, they don't leak.>"Spider-Man was always a favorite of mine, and getting to write him a bit - not to mention Venom and Carnage - how could it get better? Well, adding a new villain to his rogue's gallery, and even getting to design his origin... that would probably do it," reveals Soule. "Torment is a pretty intense character, and figuring out a beginning for him that could build to what we see him do in Death Spiral was a fantastic challenge. I think readers will be chilled and thrilled!"It seems unlikely Soule would say he's "adding a new villain" if he were actually just repurposing an old one.
>>153051417For anyone still in doubt or thinks this is a "cop out", the interview basically confirmed Paul was on the table for the death count in the event.In fact, Ewing says it was Lowe that suggested it. They also implied something I'm noticing a lot of folks missing, they're saying the trajectory of MJ's and Peter's life has already been hinted at in covers.We got a cover with them on a date and a cover of them kissing, do with that info what you will.
>>153052065PAUL HAS BEEN BETRAYED BY NICK LOWE! PAUL HAS BEEN BETRAYED BY MARVEL!BILLIONS (more) MUST DIE
>>153049775Praise be!Hallelujah!
>>153052024The Parker, Reilly, Brock, and Watson families have nothing to do with Knull, though. Making an ancient Kasady Knulll’s disciple was retarded hack shit that everyone besides Larry Hama ignored.
>>153052065>In fact, Ewing says it was Lowe that suggested it.Oh, he’s DEAD dead then.
>>153051417>Al Ewing: It was Nick’s suggestion to punch Paul’s ticket in this crossover, as I recallmarywhorekekbros I thought Nick was the one pushing for Paul to stick around...?
>>153049775TORMENT WINSFATALITY
>>153049816Whatever, glad he's dead. Forever, I hope
>>153052130Pauls death makes him a martyr
>>153052130He wanted to save his death for a crossover event for the cheap sales pop. It’s not rocket surgery, Paulbro.
>>153052145Paul's part of the symbiote codex now because he was still way too close to MJ while she had already bonded to Venom. We will witness his return with the King in Knots.
>153052130fuck off nonreading casual faggot
>>153052169>Paul's part of the symbiote codex now because he was still way too close to MJ while she had already bonded to Venom. We will witness his return with the King in KnotsFire the whole division if so
PAULCHADS THERE IS STILL TIMETHERE IS STILL A PAUL THAT IS NOT DEADTHERE IS STILL A PAUL THAT IS NOT GAYTHERE IS STILL A PAUL THAT COMMANDS RESPECT IN MARVELRETVRN… TO PAUL STACY
>>153049775S
>>153052185Who actually cares? Paul isn’t the reason MJ isn’t with Peter, it’s because of editorial. MJ getting with Peter isn’t going to not make him written as a retarded jobless manchild
>>153052169>he was still way too close to MJNo fool, Ewing made it clear that the FUCKING SYMBIOTE was cockblocking Paul! Paulfags don’t even know his lore!
>>153052123Originally he was only after Eddie Brock's family, Carnage put him onto Peter at the end of Eddie Brock Carnage, and then MJ in Death Spiral 1
YOU HEARD HERE FIRST /CO/ !By the end of the event, Dylan will use the roulette dohickery getting the skulls and being replaced by Paul!Dylan's life in exchange of Paul! NO TAKEBACKS!
Didn't that one guy on cbr say he wasn't dead in the leak threads.
>>153052209I know he has a compulsion to do the families but the knull thing is still a stretch.
>>153052182the other mjbro managed a proper response so if you can't say anything of value it's better not to speak especially in such trying times...
>>153052208I never said they were having sex, I said he was too much in her immediate periphery and symbiotes do be fickle like that. Paul's gonna keel Pauling.
>>153052229Yeah he was trolling and the Paulfags were huffing copium
>>153052229Not CBR, League of Comic Geeks (the same place where a bunch of erroneous leaks came from the past months)
>>153052239Go back to /dbg/ you retarded parasite
>>153052250Ah, that means Carl Brock has been immortalized in the codex. We just won’t get Paul back until Carl comes back first. We’ll just wait until then.
>>153052232He was a spiral on his head. Did you even read the original Knull event?
>>153051458>They think it's Paul.>It's just Pedro.I would laugh.
>>153052277>Carl BrockA real human being and a real hero.Eddie had steel. Carl tempered it.
>>153052239I did indeed manage a proper response, however your response to this was far too gay. I withdraw my response and ask that you kill yourself!
>>153052303why do the marywhorekekbros have to be so mean bros, we never wanted marywhore dead we just wanted her to be happy and she certainly seemed happy with paul for while it lasted bros...
>>153052273Ok but he said Paul was alive>>153052260Oh wasn't there an Anon here sucking his dick about how accurate he is
>>153052300Torment > Shocker >>> Carl >>>>>> Gwenschizo >>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>153052285Knull didn’t invent spirals. And Knull is already resurrected, it doesn’t make sense as a motivation or a twist
>>153052322>Oh wasn't there an Anon here sucking his dick about how accurate he isYes lol he was adamant that the leaker would never ever lie.
>>153052334>Torment>better than ShockerWhoa there, champ.Impressive first showing, but the road you're treading is a long one.
>>153052353>it doesn't make senseToo bad, because that's the story.
>>153052319Too bad Paul MURDERED her. Paul really loved MURDER.
>>153052123Peter was destined to be King in Black in 616 before Eddie Brock'd all over, as per last run. MJ was Queen in Black with him in a possible future during ASM Venom War. >>153052285Sure wish I hadn't!
>>153052229Because he's lying fag. Checking his comment history, he clearly doesn't like MJ and Peter together.A lot of people on that site are like that for some reason.This is why I said stop trusting one dude when someone quite literally leaked the whole thing.
>>153052363Torment killed Shocker, ergo he is stronger than Shocker. Torment killed Paul… ergo….
>>153052407Better <> Stronger.Also, not gonna lie, killing someone as you lay in the shadows as they are disrobing is quite a bitch move.That's why even Paul of all people gave Torment a hard time.
>Death Spiral resulted in the death of Paul>Death Spiral resulted in Peter and MJ teaming up for the first time in forever>Death Spiral resulted in Eddie losing Carnage>all of this because Carnage took the initiative to find some guy online and feed him info on these dickheadsCarnage is literally doing more to save spider-senpai comics than Peter is.
>>153049775HITLER DEAD
>>153049737Why is MJ so absent from these books?
>>153049775I didn't hate Paul. He's just another Carlie to me. It's the editorial I hate, Paul dying doesn't fix anything. There will always be another Paul as long as Marvel is incompetent.
>>153052463>spider-senpaiYou seem to be having trouble writing fąm bro
>>153052502Reddit.
>>153052535There will always be another Paul.But there will be no Paul like Paul.That's just the way it is.
>>153052515Because the gimmick means she is subsumed by the symbiote's nonsense.
>>153049869Fucking moralfag holy shit!
>>153049836>MJ dies like three times in a row>lol it’s fine I’ll just team up with Venom for a while.>Paul just get stabbed a little>AIEEEE! I AM DEAD! DEAD AND GAY! DYING LIKE THIS HAD MADE ME GAY! OH GOD I’M VOIDING MY BOWELS *FAART* I AM FUCKING DYING SOMEONE HELP MEEEE *FAAAAAART*
>>153052606Main character correction.
>>153050487How did Eddie get so weak? I haven't kept up with him since King in Black.
What will the Paulfag do when this storyline end and Paul is still dead?
>>153049843>They just leave Paul to rot>Don't even close his eyes>Peter trying to remind himself murder us still badKek
>>153052388ok but how the fuck would Mac Gargan know that? Did Carnage get a glimpse from his future self, the King in Crimson ?
>>153052626Preach the second coming of Paul, of course! Death is meaningless in comic books!
>>153052617His symbiote powers allowed him to send his mind even across time, so Eddie was basically stuck fighting himself as one of his personality variants became an evil fuck who wanted to take over everything, and after a whole lot of plot happened, both he and the Carnage symbiote were on death's door and had to bond with each other to stay alive.
>>153052617See >>153051084
>>153052617Because instead of becoming the Eventuality he would have become Knull for the 9th Cosmos, and in the process Earth would have become a symbiote planet, so he chose to relinquish the power to avoid the bad future. In the process he got hit with an anti-symbiote weapon that fucked him up permanently and Carnage got hit with the same weapon too (the gold trinket that Carnage referenced a few issues ago) so they were both dying
>>153052626Probably keep shitposting for the rest of the year, unless both the comics and the fans stop mentioning him before then.
>>153052773Paul is not dead as long as his name is still spoken! And if no one else will keep his name alive, I will!
>>153052639The family-sense could be him sniffing the threads of destiny, I don't know, but I see where anon is coming from with how lazy symbioteshit has been.
>>153052855I really don’t see it being to prevent Knull. The first issue of this current Venom volume was about a Skrull coming to earth to warn Venom about Knull’s return. There’s nothing to stop, he’s already back.
>>153052892Could be that the three end up benefitting Knull somehow. Either way, it's gonna be some extremely lazy and boring and hollow destiny crap with zero storytelling just like we've been getting up to this point.
>>153052945That could be true, especially since all three seem to be on his side during Queen in Black. So Gargan would be brainwashed by/working for Hela?
>>153052639Because MacGargan was literally given a Scorpion Symbiote out of Dylan King in Black from Earth 1015/AnneVenom EarthSo he probably learned that secret from that knull symbiote embed to him.It makes sense MacGargan becoming torment because he is now a cultist of Knull
>>153052406But the one Anon here was sucking his dick about how honest a leaker he was
>>153052606>Peter dies like a dozen times>I can’t stop now, with great power comes great responsibility>Paul just dies once>I never fucking mattered ;__; *FAAAAAAART*
>>153052643>>153052818By the time Paul is back you’ll have three jokes.
>>153052983Also one thingThe Talk issue that comes AFTER this, where the speculation not only from one anon here but also others are taking notice too is that Brock, Watson and Parker family are tied together because Peter, Mary Jane and Eddie Brock are very long grade lost cousins, because May, Carl and Anna Watson are Cousins because both shares the same Parker ancestor who slept with a Brock and a Watson, which is May's Grandfather, and will be named unironically Peter
>>153053094Given all this talk about Torment being able to sense familial connections, I like the possibility that Torment is going after MJ because he recognizes her as his wife. And he also knows about the daughter they had too, who’s still out there…
>>153053056
>>153053094wouldn’t JMS-era May have told Peter that, or did Mephisto change the timeline
>>153049775Taking all bets on how long this lasts.
>>153053138Mayday if she is still alive, is probably the same age as Dylan and Normie, if not Bailey, making a future meeting inbetween her and her parents even messier and on par with april on MC2
>>153053230I like messy, and complicated relationship drama. Paul somehow happened to be messy and really, really, really fucking boring.>>153053142Yeah, exactly that boring.
>>153053230Peter isn't even 30, no way he has a daughter Dylan's age. Dylan shouldn't be that old either but I just assume since he's part symbiote he got accelerated aging
>>153053181Seeing that Mac Gargan somehow knew of this, maybe this is a constant no one knew from every timeline.Eddie, Anne, Dylan as Peter, Mary Jane, Mayday are always connected because of one ancestor.Anne dying was probably a miscalculation which may be fixed in Queen in Black since marvel had or still has plans to reunite her and Eddie and move her out of her dead universe to 616.Also, we know that King in Crimson is also a Eddie who stood and was corrupted by Carnage.
>>153049775S>>153049836S
>>153049737Variant covers and next issues:Venom #256 David Nakayama Color Block White VariantVenom #256 Doaly Ultimate Farewell VariantVenom #256 Iban Coello Connecting VariantVenom #256 Mark Bagley Classified Target VariantVenom #256 Scott Koblish Spoiler VariantVenom #256 1:50 David Nakayama Color Block White Virgin Variant>DEATH SPIRAL PART EIGHT! Anna Watson and May Parker are caught in the Death Spiral, and their only hope is... Flash Thompson?! Will Spider-Man and Venom save the day, or will MJ and Peter's old wounds create a new tragedy? And where's Carnage in all this? Even when you find out — you STILL won't believe it!Venom #257 E. J. Su VariantVenom #257 Godtail VariantVenom #257 Iban Coello Connecting VariantVenom #257 Mark Bagley Classified Target VariantVenom #257 1:25 Mahmud Asrar Variant>In the aftermath of Death Spiral, Mary Jane Watson and Peter Parker have a long overdue heart-to-heart... but when the masks go on, Venom and Spider-Man have some unfinished business! And one way or another, this is going to lead to a BIG change for Venom and MJ!Venom #258 Daniel Dos Santos Magic: The Gathering VariantDaniel Dos Santos Magic: The Gathering VariantVenom #258 Elizabeth Torque VariantVenom #258 1:25 Sergio Fernández Dávila Venom #258 1:50 Daniel Dos Santos Magic: The Gathering >VenoMJ GETS AN ALL-NEW LOOK! A face from Venom's past is back from the dead — with a warning that could mean the end of the world! In the face of the apocalypse, who can Mary Jane Watson trust with her greatest secret? Not who you think! Meanwhile, Dylan Brock makes a decision… and the Venom family may never be the same! Plus, an all-new look for VenoMJ !Venom #259 Clayton Crain Venom #259 Luciano Vecchio Marvel Venom #259 Martín Cóccolo Foil Venom #259 TBD Artist Venom VariantTBD Artist Venom Venom #259 1:10 R. B. Silva Design Variant1:10 R. B. Silva Design Venom #259 1:25 Francesco Manna Venom #259 1:100 TBD Artist Venom Virgin
>>153049775The most fanservice that Gomez has ever put on a single page.
>>153053483So that’s why they censored Paul off the cover of 257. He’s like one of those disgraced Roman generals who gets all his statues defaced. Damnatio in Memoriae.
>>153053505These are censored covers for issue 256 and 257256:Mark Bagley Classified Target VariantScott Koblish Spoiler Variant257Mark Bagley Classified Target VariantI don't have it so I didn't posted that ones, I think one of them was posted in a 4chan thread days ago.
>>153053483>Benom's last appearance will be as a variant cover for VenoMJ.Sad.
>>153051417I don't like how the first question in this from AIPT calls it an *apparent* death.>AIPT: Paul’s apparent death feels like a major turning point. Was the goal from the start to remove him from the board, or to use him to raise the stakes for MJ and Peter? Is this one of those moments that will ripple in unexpected ways as Death Spiral unfolds?
>>153049918Wouldn't it hurt the Carnage symbiote like crazy if Spiral used the shock glove now?
>>153049918I like where this is going
>>153049816>Paul has a heroic death while Ben's has been completely undone in every sense of the wordThis is why Lowe let this happen
>Venom 255 second print cancelledGood, fire Ewing and White already
>>153049952They better not bring him back. That would be a crap april fools
>>153053756It wasn't the ratings stunt they thought it was going to be
>>153049775If they bring him back, that would be crap April fools.
>>153053801They wouldn’t put all this work into killing him off for a big crossover just to undo it quickly. Even if he’s not gone for good, the best he can hope for is a brief mention by Deadpool for another twenty or so years.
>>153053618Red Goblin was able to breathe fire, Carny has a long history of becoming immune to and/or randomly shrugging off sonics and fire
Shouldn't Deadpool be part of this due to Itsy Bitsy?
>>153049775He'll return sooner than anybody thinks.
>>153053915It is a minor crossover, so no.
>>153050267Non-zero? I'd say it's a sure bet that he's back sooner rather than later. Probably even by the end of this story.>>153049997If you're 12 years old and retarded maybe.
>>153053915What's Torment's policy on clones and dubious sisters?
>>153053953When the Paulfag figures out a second joke…
>>153053915He’d heem Torment, and Itsy Bitsy isn’t actually family so she isn’t part of the “spiral”
>>153049952FUCK YOU. You're not in on the joke, you piece of shit
>>153049869Holy shit what an hypocrite.
>>153053971God, imagine him killing every single clone... he'd get tired like WTF MAN.And then he'd have to go after everyone from Secret Hospital and Red Sonja universe.
So what? Torment can see relationships and it turns out MJ and Peter have been fucking cousins all this time?
>>153054012and then every single symbiote... and then every single spider-man in general...
>>153049899>Four times the guy Herman wasFFFFFFFFFFFFuuuuuuuck right off
So is Spiral NOT a symbiote? I thought he was and Carnage had a connection to him... instead its just some freak with weird impressions/mask?If not wouldnt carnage becoming part of him mess up like Toxin and Antivenom?
>>153054031I think he’s only going after MJ and the Watsons because she’s hosting Venom, and Venom and Carnage are technically spider-man’s symbiote children
>>153054054He’s making a joke about how Torment isn’t even half.
>>153049952Bravo Nick
>>153049918and and and what if carnage bond with be villain to make a super BADASS character? and and and hes super strong and and MJ has to beat it and and and he looks AWESOME
>>153054072>instead its just some freak with weird impressions/mask?Yes>If not wouldnt carnage becoming part of him mess up like Toxin and Antivenom?No, Carnage is actually a noted symbiote-eater, it assimilated the Negative Zone symbiote, the unnamed one that became a Poison, and the Grendel sample. It’s like purple guy, it always comes back.
>>153054111I'm going to ask David Micheline about that... I see him next week.
>>153054110It worked in the ps1 Spider-Man game.
>>153049737Not gonna lie Gomez art has improved quite a lot, very talented artist, unlike some others who become fucking lazy and start doing doodly drawings....
>>153049918What are the chances that if Carnage had actually chomped Torment he would've made it so that he didn't kill him and even transfer himself to Torment during the bite?
>>153052515>he doesn't knowIt's because she's an irrelevant person.
Maybe Spiral is the butterfly guy serial killer guy he met... what ever happened to that guy?The one he refused to bond with.
>>153052515Because they're using Eddie and Peter to carry it with this story. But it was pretty powerful in the few pages she was in.
>>153053483Wait Paul got her pregnant before croaking? And she'll make Flash pass as the father.
>>153054129he might not even know what you’re talking about, it’s more of a databook fan wank for why Cletus bonds with unrelated symbiotes but writers treat them all as Venom’s spawn
>>153054226Probably, but pretty great to talk to. Also these Captcha are awful. I have no clue who they are. But if this death sticks, Thanks Marvel.>>153054208Naw MJ and Felicia will go off together and help her heal from her mourning his death and become Peter's on and off again throupple.
>>153053987Genetically she is, it even ties in because one of Deadpools other kids is a symiote. Of course Itsy Bitsy would probably try to molest Torment.>>153053971He might have some common sense, Ben and Hallow's Eve might very well straight up murder him.
>>153054294Fagpool writers trying to give him symbiotes is annoying
>>153054256I don't think I'd be able to hold a conversation with him successfully. I'd just complain about how he wrote characters 40ish years ago and be considered a pest.
>>153054111You forgot became one with a symbiote dwarf spear that kills King in Black and disconnects the hive, and removes his weaknesses. Also he has Spot and Hydroman's abilities.
>>153054344Deadpool first had a symbiote in Cable Deadpool #50. (Coverfags think it was What if Venom possessed Deadpool 1 cuz Skottie Young cover but whatever, screw them) He also trashed on OMD in that issue.
>>153054382THATS LITERALLY HOW WE ALL TALK TO HIM. he's really cool though. he liked talking to me. So did Jim Shooter. God, I miss that guy. Little Giant will not be the same without him.
>>153054392thats this carnage. he got nerfed when he almost died and had to fuse with eddie
>>153054111>Carnage is actually a noted symbiote-eater,Carnage was eaten by Venom to begin with though?
>>153052606>>153053044>Deatholympics>Ben Reilly: Hold my beer.
>>153049775And nothing of value was lost.
>>153053094Sounds as 'credible' as those leaks that said Randy would be shown dating Shay and that Ben was going over to All New Venom to help MJ and call her "red"
>>153049918doomsday?
>>153049893>hugging it out>all lovey-doveyI enjoy ewing connecting pages like that
>>153051653J. Jonah Jameson
>>153049775Noooooo
>>153049855Entering the sewers with a gash on his knee seems like a bad idea.
>>153055145It's fine, he's half black sewage.
>>153049862What the fuck is this jalanese ass dialog>person: *says something deep, personal or inspiring*>other guy:person....
>>153052535Agreed. I feel the same way about Paul that I do about Miles; I don't hate the character, I hate what editorial uses him for.
>>153049899>I'll take you down too if I have to, and you know I willGlad they still let him be cool every once in 300 issues.
>>153051409Rek rap with a symbiote
>>153055267But isn't he already something like that?
>>153055272Yes, he wears a magic enhanced symbiote.
>>153053568I ordered the spoiler variant but find both MJ and Venom on the cover weird. They should have used Peter instead.
>>153049862>>153049869Any further deaths from Torment are on Peter now.They could have ended this.
>>153055685so that will be the rift between MJ and Peter now?
>>153055438Anyone who buys these books or variant covers needs to be locked in a cage.
>>153055272>>153055347Rep rap with a second symbiote layer.
>>153055685Not really. Carnage would have stabbed them in the back either way. This is on Eddie.
>>153054198If you are talking about ASM the artist does her no favors.
>>153055879I also bought Death Spiral part 1, first appearance of Torment. These are both key issues, anon.
Somebody else wants to bet Dylan using the Jackpot Device is how he's going to become Venom again?
>>153056181Stop buying the Books! Stop supporting these people!!
>>153056181Not that anon, but what you misunderstand anon is that sure, these comics might turn out to be rare in like a decade or two because of the low print run and everybody dropping the book but that doesn't guarantee value. Good luck trying to get people to care about Torment. Even golden age stuff with obscure books/characters might end up in low quantities but nobody cares and thus they aren't worth as much as they had no impact. So yeah fuck you for being a spec drone who is part of faceless horde of the type of people who buy COD every year or see every Marvel movie or those live action Disney remakes.
>>153056468Dylan will roll actual jackpot and revive Paul
>>153049775this doesn't excuse him from killing Shocker, but I'll take it
>>153049843rip in pepperoni paul, you were a real human beanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DSVDcw6iW8
>>153056581DON'T EVEN DARE!!!!
>>153055438This cover is beyond infuriating...
>>153053094>spidercest jeezus christ lol
>>153049737Does People ever get to go on cosmic adventures where he becomes the cosmic champion or the god butcher or something? Like become something really powerfull.
>>153055879I started buying floppies again when All-New Venom seemed like it was going to redeem MJ some, and bought Black Cat hoping it would be good. I was getting some variants too. I don't speculate on anything, just was hoping I could contribute to a potential shift with how they write this stuff.Now I'm pretty much burnt out and done buying again. I'll finish my orders, but it was briefly fun, and now I'm done.
>>153056868>oofDoes *Peter ever get to go on cosmic adventures where he becomes the cosmic champion or the god butcher or something? Like become something really powerfull.
Any predictions, I'm ready for the venom mj era to end.
>>153056874I sometimes just buy Black Cat for the covers because I like Adam Hughes. I don't actually read them. I think I read one because it was storytimed here
>>153057047I think Web of Venom comes out next week. I don't know who could possibly be Venom that hasn't already.
>>153057089Turk!
>>153056868>>153056889He was probably strongest when he became Captain Universe, a more relative level of increased strength for him would be The Other and everything after that up until OMD where he lost those powers.
>>153057059He used to be one of my favorites, but he's slipped a bit, still some fun covers. The entire comic is "nothing happens, but I'm quirky!" and "I'm a lesbian."
>>153056874>how they write this stuffNigga...how many times do we anons have to tell people like you...Marvel doesn't listen anymore and their sales are not even a good indicator I bet, even to the people who have it. They kill all their series fast and they make retarded decisions like OMD that actively went against wishes and tanked their sales and stuck with it even when it was apparent. If they were halfway competent, they would have made a lot more sales a long time ago.>>153057059He hasn't drawn a good cover in ages. Shit looks deteriorated as fuck compared to his art back then.
>>153057089They said it was a deep cut character and I think White mentioned he had been her editor recently
I'm not happy about how this went down. We didn't need to make Paul's exit a spectacle, people just wanted him to go away. Killing him off like this only serves to give narrative justification and pathos for other characters, which is bullshit
>>153057365>Nigga...how many times do we anons have to tell people like you...Marvel doesn't listen anymore and their sales are not even a good indicator I bet, even to the people who have it.Outside of "just don't buy ever, comics are dead," there hasn't been a lot of great advice here. It just so happens that the two books I've been buying (ANV/Venom and Black Cat) happened to escape the 10-issue death I was hoping they wouldn't get. Now, it kinda sucks that it's a bit of a monkey's paw, I'm not totally getting what I hoped for, but they at least kept the books going.VenoMJ is going for a guaranteed 20 issues minimum, and Black Cat's making it to 15 at least. That's better than the vast majority of Marvel books.
>>153057500Honestly it's prob lasting till the end of qib event.
>>153057500Yeah, there was that video about how they only order 5 issues at a time and if sales slip, they will cancel it. I guess that's part of the reason we get so many new #1s and they keep rebooting stuff. Daredevil was one of my favorites when I was a kid, but I'm not even giving the new series a chance and suspect it will be a 5 issue run.
>>153057572At least, yes. The whole point is that more than a year ago in these threads, anons were saying Venom wouldn't even make it ten issues. We're looking at what's more likely a 20-25 issue status quo for MJ. That's 5-10 more issues than even I originally thought, and one of the longest current runs Marvel's got going.>>153057577It's super short-sighted. Some of these books suck simply because they get no chance to grow. DD#1 wasn't bad and was storytimed, but I'm not actually buying floppies just yet.
>>153057654I'm hoping her and Dylan get some developement time together.
>>153057654The status quo and creative team are the same, but they did a renumbering.
>>153057654They instantly rebooted Moon Knight after cancelling it but it's probably just that the character isn't that popular on top of the writing, so it makes no sense. I really don't like anything by stephanie phillips I've ever read, so it was a deterrent.
>>153049918Still kinda lame (too busy with the spikes) but it's better than base Torment was, and now I guess this reveals that looked so undercooked because it was meant to turn into this.
>>153057654It's short-sighted, but that's probably how bad Marvel sales are nowadays. Marvel keeps putting number ones and hopes they will land.
>>153049775put me in the screencap
>>153051409ALL INON DEMODOKIFIED GEORGE TARLETON>>153051653ALL INON DEMODOKIFIED GEORGE TARLETON
>>153049893>like he was worthless>like he was nothingBecause he is. Overselling the importance of this character now doesn't change that.
>>153057500>lot of great adviceSo you're saying you enjoy this shit? Ugh. Can't change your mind if you're that far gone. Whatever. But the point you made about somehow influencing their writing through buying it is cope. Yeah I get it, Spider-Girl still continued after sales surged and it was saved from cancellation. Sales can make that difference. But this isn't like Spider-Girl and this isn't like back then. American comics are even more at a precipice and this shit with VenoMJ only now starting to become She-VenoMJ is evidence of their failed ragebait tactic backfiring. They are subhuman. That's hyperbolic but hey, this is 4chan and they did that shit to a kino concept and a kino waifu. So yeah they get pirated and they get fucked over by storytime threads. Simple as that. Chuddah-style. And my reasoning is as simple as that. They don't take readers time in good faith and they don't take storytelling in good faith. Look how wishy washy they are on all fronts.
>>153058607>So you're saying you enjoy this shit?No, I really don't. That's why I'm just about done buying anything after trying to give it a chance - but before I was pirating and buying the occasional trade, only to learn trade sales mean nothing.>American comics are even more at a precipiceOkay, so what's the plan? Let them die entirely? If that's your goal, like some "acceleration" bullshit, okay, I guess, but then just stop reading. Spider-Man books are in a slightly better, but still dire state, so I get letting go if it's just not fun anymore, I'm planning to stop buying (again) too.>She-VenoMJI know you're obsessed with one thing, anon. But I think you'd complain about it even if they gave you sexy goo lady.
>>153057500that's because Felicia is the real deal, anon.
>>153058913A real lesbian, yeah.
>>153058913The world would have been better off if Molfman stayed on Spider-Woman for a few more months so Black Cat would just a one-off opponent for the west coast spider that gets rolled into a gang of miscellany freaks.
>>153058874>stop readingI only read the recent Marvel comics if I have to in order to follow these threads because I want more people to enjoy actual good storytelling and Spider-Man for better or worse is the main gateway to comic readers and for new ones. I mean I'm not a dilligent or holier than thou gatekeeper but I at least want to make my opinion known. 4chan is scathing sometimes and I lose myself in it a bit. Oh well.But yeah, don't worry I still make time to read shit I actually like.>accelerationistMarvel deserves this. They wanted short-term gains at the cost of destroying their brand, thus they'll reap what they sowed. I see that you probably agree. So yeah I'm in a middle ground where I don't waste time reading too much modern stuff but I read enough to feel the specifics and point out the retarded shit so it looks like I'm at least cognizant of it.>sexy goo ladyYou haven't been following the previews? Nigga they already walked it back and in like two issues they give her a female form. It's obvious what they did. And the design is shit. It's not sexy at all so no, it DOESN'T matter that if they did, they still fucked it up. They literally are retarded when it comes to creating new ideas. They have fucking collapsed in both creativity and effort. I have a right to complain even if they give us what we want. You nigga, couldn't fathom that they could undo OMD, remove 500 issues of shitty comics from continuity, and start back at even before Civil War and erase all this shit like Disassembled and prevent Civil War. They could give us all that, and then still deliver shitty single issues. The point is that even with those good ideas that fans actually have a good point about, they can still fuck it up. This is Slott-tier thinking and leftist ignorance where he pretends ti not udnerstand my points. He and others try to paint fans as insane and unreasonable using unfair points. Contd in next post.
>>153059024just know as you cont., I'm going to bed. I'll reply later, but there's a chance the thread could be at bump limit by the time I get back.
>>153058940she's petersexual
>>153059024>>153058874Slott basically goes "damned if you, damned if you don't" and repeats that ad nauseum in the most unfaithful way possible. News flash, adults can recongize that behind anonymity, there will always be insane people who just blurt out their Id/desires because...they can. So then they solely focus on the retards as a form of controlled opposition and then equate that to the majority and use "righteous" leftist indignation. Adults use common sense and critical thinking to ignore the stupid shit, pull out the valuable bits of criticism and information, and move on. They give the benefit of the doubt when it is necessary or there is room for that doubt.>obssessed with one thingNigga the reason I do it beyond yes, a personal predilection for such material, is to exemplify how retarded they are. You have fucking Mary Jane, epitome of feminimity, and....you do this shit?! Gay shit?! Yeah, for that, you're fucking getting put on blast by guys like me. Mary Jane and She-Venom is aesthetic/art gold as well as possible character arc gold for both characters. The method in which they did this is beyond the pale of taste. It is staggering how wasted this is. I hate it with passion. So for both coom and non-coom reasons, it is beyond wasted and I hope Marvel comics and their whole department collapses. They robbed my generation of great comic books for decades because of their greed. >>153059051Ok. Well I'll post this and be done. Just needed to make it known.
What is the appeal of Venom? I'll been reading this since all-new Venom started but I feel nothing about the main duo.
>>153059171Lethal Protecting, one of many Venom things this book has none of (because it's not actually a Venom book, it's just ASM Gaiden)
>>153056078You didn't read the Eddie Brock Carnage series then.
>>153049775Why does Paul get blamed for Mary Jane being a whore who abandoned Peter? Did Paul even know Mary Jane had a boyfriend? I really don't understand why people think Paul is to blame for MJ's own actions and choices.
>>153049869Not that no one dies shit....
>>153059613marydumbfags are cuckolds but they hate getting reminded of that
