Why are Indie animators incapable of writing good dialogue ????
I didn't think it was that bad. It wasn't great but for a pilot it wasn't unsalvagable.
>>153056953They invested thier meager skill points into a barely passing animation skill. They don't have any left for writing.
>>153056953I too can ask stupid questions, while pretending my thread is not about something else.
>>153056953Because none of them read books and use their experience with online discourse and badly-written cartoons/videogames as a general reference for character voice.
>>153056953I don't know either, but bad dialogue isn't just present in indie, it's absolutely everywhere right now. Every movie, every comic, every animated and live action show too. We're living in a dialogue writing crisis like never seen before. And terrible amateur voice actors don't help either. Only subject that even mildly survives is anime and manga, and I think it's mostly because we suspend disbelief because we know we're reading a translation that's lacking cultural context lmao
>>153056953Because most people suck at creative endeavors. I guarantee you that if any anon here made their own indie cartoon it would have writing nearly or just as bad. This is also why indie will never really replace the actual industry. They have access to far more resources, better writers (better than internet writers at least), higher budgets. The indie scene as it stands cannot sustain itself and should have been delegated to an amateur hobbyist activity where it belongs
>>153057894>The indie scene as it stands cannot sustain itself and should have been delegated to an amateur hobbyist activity where it belongsSo status quo ante bellum?
>>153056953Because animators aren't writers and these people have probably never so much READ good dialogue let alone had a decent conversation that doesn't involve which anime boys they think are the gayest.
who are these semon demons
>>153057574Shamanic Princess was alright.
>>153056953They're trying to be "realistic" and "relatable" but the only people they ever talk to are mentally ill faggots in artsy discord servers and on tumblr and bsky, where everyone talks like insufferable retards/
>>153056953They sunk all their points into dexterity. Nothing left over for Wisdom or Intelligence.
This shit is exactly why I spend money on industry writers and animators. You can't get away with amateur work on the Internet anymore. I'm blowing over a hundred grand on this pilot because if I did this shit myself nobody would watch or like it
>>153058003I do wonder if shit like old Eddsworld would still gain traction if released today. I'm talking 2005 Eddsworld
>>153056953Why are you incapable of making a good thread ????
>>153058040Absolutely not. It'd max out at 100 views and 2.7 stars on newgrounds if it came out today, Gould got insanely lucky.
>>153057574I wanna fuck that squirrel
>>153058003I'm making an indie cartoon, already have a pilot. I absolutely can't stop thinking about how this is just wasted potential. I'm not skilled enough to make it actually good, I don't have money, and even if I started leveling up, it's very obvious that the world is ending (or a bunch of us are going to starve to death) by 2030. Goddamn, I wish I had the actual money to make my work actually good
>>153056953In america if you try to learn to read they beat you with sticks
where's your cartoon? >Inb4: not an argument Don't care, show me your work
>>153056953Same reason you can't.
Because their writing style is entirely derivative of whatever media they consume, rather than coming from a place of actual lived experience.
>>153056953To put it short, because animators and writers are too completely different professions that happened to overlap with one another in a production pipeline. They're two different fields of specialization, and in the case of a lot of indie animations there isn't a high enough budget to splurge equally on both. Given that the main draw of animation is the animation itself, writing often tends to be second priority. This is especially true in the case of smaller scale projects, where animators often attempt to take on the responsibility of writing as well (or at least have more input than they probably should), even if they're not really good at it yet.Tldr, an animator is not a writer, and a writer is not an animator