>Indie cartoons suck, they can't writeOk, where's your indie animated show?The barrier for entry is pretty low, surely you can do betterPost your animations
I haven't made an animation in 14 years and I never said those things, but I also think the digital circus is gay.
>>153062605Indie animators like Max Gilardi do great work but have the issue that thousands of people will try to ruin their job opportunities because they did a few caricatures You assert a merit-based environment that doesn't exist
>>153062698>You assert a merit-based environment that doesn't existIf you have to put words into your opponent's mouth you've already lostThis is a cope statement, pure NGMI energy
>>153062605Nobody here creates
>>153062605>you can't criticize a plane crashing unlike you are a plane engineerKill yourself.
>>153062605I wouldn’t expect someone to learn to cook to earn the right to tell me my soup is too salty, I just take the feedback for what it’s worth
indieshit aren't cartoons
>>153062605Not OP but do people here really not animate?
>>153062605I have never seen a cartoon critic make a decent cartoonNever. I've seen live action critics make alright work but never animation. I just don't think it's possible
One of the few good ongoing """indie""" shows and it comes out every millennium.
>>153062914The board is a mix so it depends who you’re talking to
>>153062741No actually when people will refuse to even look at your art and give an honest opinion, no contest of merit can take place.Might as well argue you can win a race while the audience is throwing banana peels at your lane only.>>153062843>>153062914Plenty of professional or indie artists came out of posting on /co/, Gooseworx is a likely candidate for being one of those.One of those typical widely spread lies that hamper new artists from getting any foothold.
>153063011Your art fucking sucks, Guy
>>153063028Exactly what im talking about and another instance of harassment will be punished by sending emails to industry and indie artists.
>>153062605I said it before in a past thread but the reason indie cartoons have bad writing is because they're amateurs. It's simple ass that. Indie cartoons will never have better writing than the real thing. You can't pick up some average Joe, put him in front of a computer and expect him to write anything good. And if any anon here made or has already made their own cartoon, I 100 percent guarantee you that it's filled with the same amateur problems no matter how much life experience they have or even how many books they've read.Most people aren't special or exceptional enough to make good work.
>>153062605
I dont need to be a michelin star chef to know when im being served a pile of hot shit.
>>153063225>[indecipherable tranny mewling]
>>153063225why are troons always attention giggalos
>>153063142I give credit to the destruction of the idea that indie is something only pretentious hipsters do, largely due to the indie gaming scene being so wild and creative.I think indie animation doesn't inherently suck but we're seeing a degree of tropes being established as go-to stuff already. The point of a healthy indie scene is that it offers breakaway and opens new paths when it feels like things are going stagnant.
>>153063244>>153063251>sees that it's a reply>ignores that fact and pretends Goose posted this during one of their totally-not-a-joke online Crashouts™
>>153062887Pilot
>>153063273Good news: Glitch is bringing onboard industry hacks like Arin and Dana. In a couple years the SMG4 gooks will sell Glitch to Netflix or Amazon or Apple for loadsamoney and indie animation's brief renaissance will end.
>>153062887A plane crash kills people. A show you don't like makes you do something else.
>>153062698Shut up boil
>>153063225Is “My Furry Life” cool shitEstablished artists will go to bat for the most inane ideas in their circles and eventually it makes their fans mentally ill and deranged since they revoke permission to have honest opinions>>153063510I broke him by making him watch Homestuck transition to be about an adorable Lovecraftian girl who loves Ren and Stimpy type shows
>>153062605Most of the seething about glitch can be summarized as >"IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME"see also the merch complaints
>>153063510You seethe and whinge but you don't say he's wrong. You can't say he's wrong.
>>153063538Projecting. You can't hack it so you live vicariously through people who got picked up, so attacks on them feel like attacks on you.
>>153063473>industry hacks like [Newgrounds animator] and [made one (1) Disney cartoon].>In a couple of years, [wishful thinking].
youre cute and all but you are NOT a woman
>>153063142If it were only that, professional cartoons would be better-written.
>>153063542>agreeing with guy>ever>>153063555Hit a nerve?
>>153063573>[Newgrounds animator]Call Arin that to his face, see what happens.
I like indie cartoons but I'll post my shit anyways.Currently working on the second EP of my web cartoon. Trying to figure out if I should go for a 16:9 aspect ratio or 4:3https://youtu.be/aaexi-cU0rA?si=4AVoDDaZrVeG5rqLhttps://youtu.be/73s6Ht18SBw?si=_keCmskyXf9t7kjC
>>153063697You say these things and yet pretend to care about merit over and over, making things like >>153062605 predatory behavior since you know internet kids want to believe they live in a world that will reward their merit, and you are taking advantage of their naivety.
>>153062605I tried making one but gave up
>>153062605I'm too shy to post
>>153062605>Ok, where's your indie animated show?>The barrier for entry is pretty low, surely you can do betterNigger I don't have hands
>>15306373216:9 vs 4:3 really depends on what you're going for anon, 16 gives you much more room for cinematic shots, 4:3 is better for slapstick
>>1530637324:3
>>153063142ThisI blame Hazbin for distorting people's perception of what internet animation is. Now we have people unironically believing that indie can replace multi billion dollar industries. People, especially on this board, want high quality, frame by frame animation, high tier writing, 30 min long episodes released in a timely manner, all for free while the animators should have day jobs. This is all going to come crashing down
>>153064343>Space King is not associated with any of this shitBased.
>>153064343Been saying this for years but people deny it. Youtube AdSense doesn't pay fucking anything substantial and sooner or later, merch sales will start to dry up. Just look at what Eddsworld has become. 4.5m subs, a Patreon, multiple merch and sponsorships and they're still in the red
>>153063011>noooo you don't get it it's not my faultLol. Pure cope. You couldn't be more NGMI if you tried.
>>153063796You have never worked a day in your life.
>>153064515>>153064533Personal harassment you little cocksucker, emails shall resume ONLY because of you after MONTHS. Remember that when you never get a big cartoon job as you project upon me.
I only make comics
>>153064650Lol, nice internet tough guy act. Who are you emailing, your mom?There are two reasons artists get passed over; art isn't good enough, or they're a cunt. For you, it's both. You could give Dobson a run for his money with how defensive and egotistical you are. No one will ever hire you with that attitude.
>>153062887>Comparing making a cartoon to operating a fucking plane
>>153064821Keep digging a hole, lowlife.you keep speaking of art but can you 1. Say what my art is 2. Give an opinion on it, not a knee-jerk insult? Your answer will be included in the emails to show what a garbage person that they have raised up.>>153064827you can easily give kids a bunch of mental illnesses by making a bad cartoon. Trannies would bring up cheap and bad cartoon episodes while discussing their issues with gender.
>>153062605The ability to create a thing and the ability to critique it aren't the same skill, that's why editors exist.
>>153065013Nobody here could edit either
>>153064856What do I care about your emails, dipshit?>anons are telling me I'm wrong, boo hoo!Cry more you fucking baby, see if I care.Your art is chaotic, poorly drawn, and hard to read. You are so resistant yo criticism that improvement is impossible, because improvement requires admitting wrongdoing. You will never git gud.Your attitude is worse. Lowlife? You're the riff raff here, posturing like a child and throwing fits. Who would ever hire someone who throws a childish fit everytime they're told to change something? No one. Merit isn't just the quality of your art, but also how you are to work with, so you have none.
>>153065057This is a whole lot of faggot fetishization of youth, vitality, and vulnerability masquerading as an opinion. You want young artists to be bent over submissive femboys because you get off on it, and bitch endlessly like the queen you are when a man is just a man. Good job exposing yourself.I have dozens of projects in progress and was essential for established ones like Homestuck, its just that there are troupes of faggoty ass people out there seeking to prevent me from getting my due, and that culture is dying out while you're incapable of realizing it, and Im instrumental for that as well. Screenshot!And you didn't say what my art is homo.
>>153065057This whole thread is just a set up for you to get off on violating the naivety of young people, and you're frustrated that this is one place where I will curb stomp anyhomo who does that: im winning after years tooEven the expression in the op is picked to express your gooner attitude
>>153065116I didn't say any of that you illiterate faggot. Thanks for admitting you have no arguement and are coping.>I have dozens of projects in progress and was essential for established ones like Homestuck, Lmao, get real
>>153065155>baby, crying, throwing fits, childYou said it all dude; you come to new artists Not because you give a single shit about them, but rather because they are vulnerable and impressionable so your faggot ass can make an impact on themWhile no mature adult can take you seriously because you're a worthless homosexual. That's the psychology of pederasty.Someone like me who takes art seriously ruins how you use your participation in these communities just for your degeneracy. That is why you bitch and get upset while normal people don't give a fuck about my comments. Enjoy the emails.
>>153062605>Where's your indie show?Being storyboarded as we speak. My concern is that my stuff will attract gay autistic puriteens that will harass people for stupid reasons, like with Toby Fox. >Every fandom has thoseYes but some fandoms are worse with that than others
>>153065279I never said anything about any of that. I said>people don't want to work with assholesThis has nothing to do with age. You jumping to pedophilia is pure projection, only an obsessed degenrate would bring that shit up unprompted.>emailsTo whom, nigger? Don't worry, I'll send my own so they can all know that you think about fucking kids so much you bring it up in unrelated conversations, sick fuck.
>>153065446Now you're activating your psychology where you want to disregard everything a young artist is saying so you can “breed” your interpretations and preferences into him. I have already forced animation artists to know my lgbtq truth bombs dude, they won't take your side because I have forced them to see the truth just as they tried to force things upon me.>assholeSo long as I abide by the teachings of Jesus Christ, who harshly condemned sinners and overturned the tables of the money lenders, I don’t care about your judgments. Go bitch about Christians, but I’m a special one.
>>153065446>i harassed someone seeking to leave homelessness but HE WAS MEAN TO ME!!that’s not going to play well with anybody dude.
>>153062698He doesn't even animate anymore he just a vtuber now.
I want to make an animation. How do I animate?
>you can't be critical of (thing) if you don't have your own (thing)Stupid shill
>>153065654Don't go to art school. Just draw in a sketchpad and watch/read tutorials
What even is good writing anymore?
>>153062698One guy dropped out so the thousands of successful indie animators on YouTube don’t exist
>>153065907Bromwell High
My devastating truthbombs unravel yet again.>>153065592that is part of the point, he was a generational talent, but was not rewarded for it and needed to seek alternate forms of income.
>>153065545>i have forced myself upong young artistsBold to admit being a pedo rapist> im specialPride is a deadly sin.>>153065562>i spent my time homeless being terminally online and 4chan was mean to meIsn't going to play well with anyone either.>harassmentLmao nigga just walk away
