Mary sues are , by definition, newcomers in srablished series. If everything you do is right but you are the original protagonist, you arent a mary sue. The problem that created the term mary sue is that after an original character made the heavy lifting to make the series popular, a self insert of a new writer just came and was better than everyone.
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>>153072666Don't use terms you only think you understand Satan
>>153072711It is exactally how the term started being used. The use only changed later.
>>153072851Fuck, you're right. My apologies.
Meanings change as language is descriptive not prescriptive. There was a time, and I’m talkingtime before the internet itself alongside dinosaurs and Coke 2 when Mary sue would have been insular to trekkies and so narrow in it’s meaning that it would have just meant female self-insert to an existing cast (usually trek) but that time has LOOOOONG passed. Mary sue is from the 70, and the world had been in need of a slang for all the traits that regularly congealed for sue-ism and so ‘Sue’ slides into place as the word for it all.
>>153072666>If everything you do is right but you are the original protagonist, you arent a mary sue.Mary sue is a specific combination of being perfect, unbreakable and beloved within the story all at once, plenty of protagonists are flawless creator pets or self-inserts
>>153073463But it is normal for comic books and cartoons to have overpowered characters. It is only a problem when it is a newcomer sel insert because then it gets really annoying and you cant turn your brain off
>>153073886That is not the original meaning
>>153072666OP, did you have a fucking stroke? Did you keel over your keyboard and die, then somehow submit this thread despite the captcha? How did you even get access to the internet with such a poor grasp of the English language?