Reminder that Alan Scott has to live with the knowledge that his son got plowed by a 100+ year old nazi scientist because he wasn’t a good father to him
he's a gay. that just gives him a boner.
>>153081008is alan scott gay now? and his son is gay?
>>153081008He and Slade should form a support group.>Slade's son fucked one of his old arm buddies because Slade is a terrible dad
>>153081029And his other maybe-son/step-son is gay tooThey should make Jennie gay too with the redhead telepath having made her straight
>>153081177>then the kid fucking tried to kill him when he threatened to come clean to Slade>and also thought Slade's kid was lying about being bi>he immediately regretted it and took him to a literal Super Villain Doctor>who turned him into Deathstroke but the HulkIt all sounds a bit strange when you lay it out like that.
>>153081681The family drama and all four of them being insane really made Prieststroke good.
I guess there’s some subtext there but nothing that actually suggested Todd fucked the dude.>>153081177>>153081681It’s a shame it ended on such a wet fart though given the build up to Slade finding out and Isherwood saying Slade would try to kill him. Slade was mostly just grossed out for like a page before there’s a panel that revealed he and Wintergreen did know about it and just chose to ignore it.
>>153081008Anyone wishing they'd make Jericho be a good guy again? Him being secretly evil all along was super fucking bullshit since the whole point of his character was that he rejected Slade and his non's path after it cost him his voice
>>153081008He isn't talking about sex. He's talking about how he convinced Todd to become evil and among other things, murder the abusive adopted father who raped him repeatedly as a kid, effectively turning Todd gay.
>>153081008Has Geoff Johns ever explained why the fuck he turned Obsidian evil in his JSA run? I love his JSA run, but that entire plotline was super fucking bullshit of the highest order
>>153081008>>153082279Considering that Todd gained his powers from him, wouldn't he technically be a second father?
>>153081029His son was gay first I guess some writer found it ironic enough and went with itIt does make fans screech online though
>>153082293Geoff hated everyone in Infinity Inc save for Nuckleon and Silver Scarab and basically turned both of them into INO character at that
>>153082296i can see why. a gay guy having two gay sons is abit fucking weird, in every sense of the word.
>>153082379Was the male harlequin confirmed to be his son?
>>153082311I think it was more of a coincidence, Hourman got unscathed.
>>153082293Obsidian being evil was a leftover plot from Robinson that Johns didn’t really care about beyond thinking his powers were cool. Kinda like how Sandy was more Goyer’s character and basically became a footnote when Goyer left the book.Rumor is Robinson/Goyer originally wanted Obsidian to mostly just be manipulated by Ian Karkull after having a breakdown based more on his inner conflicts about being abused (physically /emotionally/retconning in implied sexually) by his adoptive father and being gay. Nobody else was really paying enough attention to him to help him because Alan never gave a fuck about him and was too busy with Kyle and Jade, Jade was too busy with being GL and with Kyle, etc. I think the rumor also stated it was more of a suicide by cop thing too, building off that shitty JLA run where he tried to kill himself but couldn't and stated that Alan was gonna be the one to kill Ian, but those I'm less confident in my memory of that part so don't quote me about that.Then Robinson left and Johns watered it down and had Todd kill Ian and become big bad because ???It's why in the first issue Robinson had Alan literally just not know what Todd was up to for the past few months, which was something Ian was going to use to manipulate Todd with, that his dad just didn't care enough to drop in. Whereas Johns changed it to a less-shitty-of-Alan "Todd is more mad that Alan just didn't know Todd existed" and then changed it AGAIN when he realized that made no sense and implied in Princes of Darkness that Alan could've followed or found their mom cause he's GL but he didn't.Johns just kinda threw shit at the wall with regards to that storyline because he didn't want Alan or Todd to come off as too shitty but also very little of it made sense so he just ended it with Todd being controlled and ignoring Alan being kinda shitty to Todd.Pic related is a google group from 2000 discussing part of the rumor.
>look into this>forced faggot rapes and other non consent>forced faggot in comics and people made gay that werent>dick grayson still the most raped male by female person alive>this is considered funny ha ha>people screaming to hell if a female is so much as implied she had to do things because of a man and wasnt 100% into it
>>153082379It was weird for a 80 years old character maybe even more to all of sudden be gay after two kids and forming the JSAIt was out of nowhere but made the character more relvant after 80+ years and that's fantastic I don't care is fake anyway write whatever works
>>153082296Alan was made gay since he was too young on Earth 2 to have adult kids and Robinson felt bad erasing what was basically 25% of DC's gay male heroes at the time (Obsidian, Piper, Tasmanian Devil, Mikaal), then Didio let Tynion make main earth Alan be gay too since Earth 2 Alan was never going to be used again.
>>153082516A weird thing is that gay!Alan is more relevant than Todd ever was.
>>153082537Also it's worth noting in context of why he felt bad, it's because immediately pre new 52 all four of those characters were treated like trash. Obsidian was a fucking egg for a year, Robinson himself killed Mikaal's boyfriend, Robinson himself killed Tasmanian Devil and turned him into a rug before being brought back, and not long before all those, Piper's entire Countdown storyline was him being subjected to homophobic jokes. And yes, there was outcry for all those that I guess Robinson took to heart considering he resurrected Tasmanian Devil and then made Earth 2 Alan gay.
>>153082556>why is the more popular character with a popular mantle showing up more than a D lister??
>>153082407No
>>153082295IIRC Andreyko had Obsidian call him a father figure in either Manhunter or one of the JSA oneshots.>>153082447>Obsidian being evil was a leftover plot from Robinson that Johns didn’t really care about beyond thinking his powers were cool.Makes sense. That whole storyline basically no relevance to anything else and didn't really serve to further anybody's character. It's referenced like maybe 3-4 times in passing in 40 issues. Like at a bare minimum I feel like it should've at least caused some friction between Alan and Atom Smasher? Or Stargirl having second thoughts about looking up to Alan or Jakeem straight up not giving a fuck about anything Alan says? Quite frankly you could remove it and remove Obsidian from Princes of Darkness and basically nothing changes. Even Alan barely changed considering Obsidian barely showed up.
>>153082537How did we ended with earth 2 gay Alan?
>>153082295>>153082859And the starheart claimed to be his and Jade's real father too>Alan>his adopted dad>Ian Karkull>the StarheartHow is it possible to have four dads and they all treat you like shit lmao
>>153082905Anon just told you: New52 reboot wiped away a chunk of gay heroes, and so they turned Earth 2 Alan gay to make up for it (since he was also too young to have kids anyway, thus no Obsidian to be the diversity hire).
>>153082279>anon doesn’t know what subtext is
>>153082259Jericho was a good boy in Priest's Deathstroke, just really mentally unstable and in dire need of a hug from dad and some prozac.I'm mostly just worried he's the person who killed Wintergreen in the latest Deathstroke volume. Because if he is then he just needs to be killed off at this point especially with how he continues to be erased from Titans.
>>153082295that just makes it hotter desu
>>153082420He married a whore and got gutted like a fish though...
They should've had Obsidian and Atom Smasher become a couple. Would've been better than the Colossus/Kitty Pryde shit Johns tried to pull.
>>153082311Obligatory "DC Hates Infinity Inc" copypasta>Jade got character assassinated, depowered and turned into Kyle's cocksleeve, got character assassinated even more and turned into a cheating slut, then killed>Obsidian went crazy or got controlled like 3 or 4 times and got turned into an egg, and that's after getting depressed and trying to literally kill himself in JLA only to find out he can't die>Hector's whole continuity ordeal and Gaiman treating him like garbage for some reason>Lyta's whole continuity ordeal and Gaiman treating him like garbage for some reason and gets replaced by King's OC while DC doesn't want to even acknowledge you ever existed>Brainwave Jr also went crazy and evil a couple times due to his powers and an evil caterpillar>Northwind turned into a bird monster who can't even speak >Atom Smasher's mom died so he sided and went gay with Black Adam and basically became a war criminal>Rick got super not-cancer and was overall a fucking looney in the Hourman title>Yolanda and Beth died in the 90s and were basically completely forgotten except for Ted and Yolanda’s cousin mentioning Yolanda. Nobody cared about Beth though>The fact that Al was the only one not ever treated like shit and instead was treated with some dignity, even if he did become a fucking war criminal>the fact that Rick, Todd, and Jennie were the only ones to bounce back even just a little bit from all of it>it took a TV show and them being not white for Beth and Yolanda to come back to life
>>153081177>>153081681>know-it-all>one of those annoying christians who keep shoving it in your face>a big cowardLiterally WHAT did Joey see in him?>hurr durr daddy issuesObviously, but there are better daddies out there.Did he make the thing that Joey uses to speak or something? Because that would be his only positive.
>>153083274Faeber’s Jesse doesn’t count, he said he didn’t like her and thought she didn’t fit the team.
>>153081177What about Captain Atom? He dissapeared for like 20 years so his daughter ended up fucking his bestfriend.. who mind you USED TO BABYSIT HER
>>153081177>Slade’s ex banged and married one of his old army buddiesLike mother, like son.
>>153083337>Obsidian and Atom Smasher become a couple.It would've been kino.
>>153081008>Alan's son fucked a nazi scientist>>153081177>Slade's son fucked one of his army buddies>>153083898>Liberty Belle's daughter fucked her (Libby's) fiance>>153083913>Captain Atom's daughter fucked one of his friendsAnybody else's kids fuck somebody they weren't supposed to??
>>153084036Both of their villain arcs wouldn't have happened if they were fucking each other ngl
>>153083913Was it presented as wrong or was Nate just like “sure why not”? Cause that’s wild lol.
>>153084077>one is severely mentally ill and probably not in right state of mind>two were partially raised by the people they fuckedJesse is the worst one here obviously
>>153081177rose is hmong
>>153082279Johns wrote it, that’s why it’s gay as hell.
>>153081177>>153081681IIRC Slade wasn’t even particularly upset at the possibility of him bad touching Joey when he was younger, he was more grossed out at it being pseudo-incest due to Joey calling him uncle when he was a kid lmao.
>>153085153Poor Obsidian stupidly powerful character that always get the shit
>>153084077>>Alan's son fucked a nazi scientistWasn't he just a mad scientist?
