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>Aschully Satan is good guy
>Heaven and God doesnt exist but Hell and demons do
>Religion is le bad

Why did Amazon let a bunch of edgy atheists write the worst episode of this season?
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>>153104585
Because Amazon is led by edgy atheists.
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>153104585
oh hey this post again
i'll just explain again it since you didn't get it last time:
the point is they're so ancient, they have all this knowledge of past epochs of earth, but they're also incredibly shortsighted and basically know very little of the surface world. they've "never found a heaven" but they aren't even aware of aliens from other planets, so clearly there's room left open. They think they know everything and they really don't. "There are more things in heaven and earth..." etc
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>>153104585
Nobody cares about your fake outrage, christcuck larper
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>>153104928
>All of this shit that wasn't in the episode totally was and you're an idiot for not being as delusional as me
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>>153104928
>oh hey this post again

Go ahead and find the first one, tranny. I'll wait.
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>>153104585
They said Satan was a necessary evil. Not the same thing as a good guy.
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>>153104585
What's the deal with the demons' outfits? They look kind of uninteresting, like long johns.
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>>153104944
>Guy who doesn't know what LARPER means
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>conquest breaking out happens between seasons
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Interesting how counter-culture went from "being a reddit atheist to piss off christian moralfags" to "pretending to care about religion to piss off liberal moralfags" in the span of two decades
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>>153105391
And after all this time it still works
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>>153105391
Because beating a dead horse is inherintly distasteful
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>>153105361
Leave them, these new kids are but a pale imitation of the atheistfaggots from before.

Once one of those fuckers said the typical "sky daddy" bullshit, and when another anon callled them an edgy teenager, they responded with
>No, you are edgy
This new generation is fucked.
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>>153105391
not really that interesting really both revolve around a smug self validation from pissing others off
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>>153105446
I meant moreso interesting that it's basically the same thing with a modern coat of paint. The more things change the more they stay the same
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>>153105391
Reddit atheism will be cool again in 20 years, only it won't be known as "reddit atheism" because reddit will most likely be dead by then
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>>153105500
It was never cool. Literally called reddit atheisn
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>>153104585
When a leftist reads Paradise Lost they always go "Lucifer was right!"
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I thought gnosticism was the cool edgy kids club. Or is that just for /x/fags?
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>>153105328
Because Invincible is shit when it comes to character designs
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>>153105391
>Interesting how counter-culture went from "being a reddit atheist to piss off christian moralfags"
epstein and pals stopped funding the atheist movement. i'm not making shit up, it is in the files
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>>153105683
dude literally paid for piss christ
shit is insane
>>153105669
it's /x/ bullshit and medieval schizo fanfic
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>>153104585
Will you shut the fuck up. Stop acting like a fag over nothing. Fags like you is what gives religion a bad rep in the first place.
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>>153104585
how do souls work again?
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>>153105736
>by defending yourself against retarded strawmans, you make yourself look worse
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>>153105703
and that only made evangelicals double down on their insanity, and look where they led the US
both sides were played
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>>153104928
This passive aggressive quoting-without-quoting is such bitchmade shit. You're literally draining the testosterone from the room by acting like this, you silly troon.
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>>153105775
Caring about what a fat demon says in a capeshit show does make you look pathetic, yes.
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>>153104585
Why do Christians always start screaming like retards when there is even the slightest implication that their Romano-Jewish doomsday cult built on the failed prophecies of a criminal carpenter sentenced to death might not actually be true?
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>>153105865
The same reason trannies get mad when you imply they aren't a true and honest woman - they're in a cult.
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>>153104992
>/tv/thread/218973713/uh-yeah-satan-is-actually-the-good-guy-and-god
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>>153105391
people just want to feel smug about themselves while pissing other people off at the same time
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>>153105787
>You're literally draining the testosterone from the room
That sounds extremely personal
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>>153104585
Bro, you are talking about the company funding Hazbin Hotel.
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>>153107331

>Cant find evidence of OP posting the same exact thread (because he didnt)
>Just pull a generic criticism of this shitty tranny episode and claim victory
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>>153105446
>>153105484
Both are the same and true
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>>153104585
Writers rooms are mostly autist atheists who were forced to go to church as children and hated it. There's a decent point that was made here, you don't need to be religious to be good, but they baked too much 'imaginary sky man' rhetoric into it. It's a shame, it was so close to being top tier sagely advice.

He honestly should have pointed out that if Mark were evil, he wouldn't feel so much remorse over the things he did.
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>>153105865
Why don't atheists ever attack any other religion? It's always christianity specifically, not even any of the other abrahamic based faiths like islam or judaism, let alone anything else.
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>>153109299
>you don't need to be religious to be good,
except almost all of western morality is founded off religious morality
fedora tipper extraordinare richard fucking dawkins conceded on this
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>>153109306
oy vey
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>>153109307
>morals wouldn't exist without religion
It's the other way around. Religion wouldn't exist without morals. Charity, self sacrifice and redemption are all concepts that predate christianity by thousands of years, it didn't invent them, it just codified and spread them, the fact is that almost any religion with the same moral set would have served the same purpose, and that's because morality is innate to the human psyche.
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>>153109322
look outside of the west for five seconds and you'll know this is bullshit
the fucking german invaders were human sacrificing blood feuding monsters before christianity, you ignorant fuck
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>>153109333
Go die for Israel.
Do for Yahweh.
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>>153109333
Reminder that christians were burning people at the stake, lynching, going on holy wars, butchered many of their own people at the drop of a hat for heresy and generally acting as barbaric as anyone else whenever it suited them. These are not moral actions in line with biblical precepts, and it is convenient to you to ignore these realities to maintain a semblence of moral highground in comparison to everyone else.

The fact is that morals are independent of religion, again, religion serves to codify and spread them through easily absorbed parables. The religion itself isn't what keeps you straight and moral, it merely teaches you what morals are, the morals already existed.
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>>153109348
ah yes
and muslims and pagans dindu nuffin
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>>153109351
*Koffdeathofthefirstbornsonkoff*
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>>153109351
Of course they did some evil shit, I won't deny that, why do you have to act as if one side has to be completely evil and one side has to be completely good? Real life doesn't work that way. The Quran actually has some pretty moral stuff in it, that doesn't stop muslims from acting immoral when it suits them. Many of the pagan religions were mostly benign as well, again, they too did pretty bad shit when it suited them.

The point is that morals don't stem from religion, they define and spread them. They are INNATE to the human mind.
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>>153109358
>the pedophile book about how all muslims are rape and tax cattle is good ackshully
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>>153109373
non-muslims*
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>>153109373
Are you really going to sit there and say there are no pedophiles in the catholic church?
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>>153109400
Are you seriously trying to point to the Catholic Church for their self-admitted controversies and moral failings in defense of religious scripture countries use to justify child marriage?
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>>153109414
Again, you need to understand that this isn't an us-or-them matter, it's whether or not morals are capable of existing independently of religion, which they are. If you want to be a christian, go ahead, I don't care and I'm not going to tell you to stop believing. You just need to accept that it's not the progenitor of the morals it champions.
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>>153109420
Fuck off, you faggot. You want to play this fucking game, stay on topic instead of trying to get one over and then pussy out when your position becomes indefensible. Worthless fedora tipping piece of shit.
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>>153109423
>There's a decent point that was made here, you don't need to be religious to be good
That is the topic.
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>>153109420
>the pedophile book about how all non-muslims are rape and tax cattle is actually moral
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>>153109427
I reiterate
>>153109423
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>>153104585
Just wait until it is revealed Heaven and God actually exists, demons are just mere normies that are detached from that dimension and deluded themselves that God doesn’t exists
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>>153109428
>The Quran actually has some pretty moral stuff in it
>that doesn't stop muslims from acting immoral when it suits them
The bible actually has some pretty moral stuff in it. That doesn't stop christians from acting immoral when it suits them. And so on.

Why is it so hard for you to accept that morals are as old as dirt?
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>>153109428
Entirely different debate, but anon wants to tip his fedora.
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>>153109438
>>153109348
You don't get to steer the conversation this way and then turn back when you look like a complete fucking retard, you disingenuous fuck
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>>153109450
>look outside of the west for five seconds and you'll know this is bullshit
You started this with whataboutism and I engaged with it in good faith in the hopes of getting you to understand the point. It's obvious now you're just a raging retard hellbent on the idea that everything that is not your side is evil and bad and that morality did not and could not exist until a scant 2000 years and change ago. That's beyond cynical, it shows you believe humanity is inherently evil without a higher power coercing it. That's pretty sad, and I pity you.
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>>153109460
>You started this with whataboutism and I engaged with it in good faith
pointing out how other people have different morals really doesn't reflect morals always existing though?
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>>153109460
>That's pretty sad, and I pity you.
I haven't seen this much euphoric atheism in a long time.
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>>153109467
Izzat would make this guy have a mental breakdown
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>>153109472
Atheism implies you believe there is no higher power, which doesn't apply to me. Fact is I was raised devoutly catholic, I'm probably more learned about christianity than any of the larpers in here.
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>>153109491
Sure you are.
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That's it? That was the show-exclusive hell episode? That was just 40 minutes of Kirkman fedora tipping and making fun of MCU helmets! Grrr Kirkman betrayed us!
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>>153109306
First off, that's not really true, just because critics of religion tend to focus on the most common one around them doesn't mean it's their sole target.

Secondly, even if it was true, it wouldn't mean Christianity shouldn't be criticised. If Christianity was the sole target of criticism, it still wouldn't be incorrect to say it's foundation is an apocalyptic prophecy that never came true or pointing out that it's completely baseless to say some guy getting executed means you get a chance to live forever after you die.

Thirdly, a lot of criticism of Christianity would overlap with other religions too. If someone believes the idea of gods and souls is nonsense, isn't it fair to assume they think all religions that use those concepts are wrong too?

If you really want some specific criticism of other religions, fine, you can have that:
>Judaism being built on the idea that Jews are the chosen people by the only god there is and have a special claim to a specific piece of land causes a lot of problems that could easily have been avoided.
>Islam's focus on an ancient warlord's commands means a lot of archaic and brutal social practices are kept alive long after they ceased yo be useful, if they ever really were.
>Hinduism promotes a caste system that won't allow for equality or social mobility.
>Buddhism is built on the idea that attachments are bad and that having them in life means you won't advance in the next, which in turn means you aren't incentivised to improve your current condition.
Does that make you happy? It shouldn't because none of that invalidates the criticism of Christianity, it's still there and something you have to deal with no matter how flawed other religions may be.
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>>153109561
>it's foundation is an apocalyptic prophecy that never came true
...have you looked into any other religion?
like, at all?
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>>153109577
A lot of the pagan religions don't involve prophecy like that, it's usually some flavor of "yeah, this big white horse takes your soul to the afterlife when you die" or "if you do good, you reincarnate in a better life". Real low stakes stuff, except when it's like norse mythology and they're saying a big snake will eat the world.
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>>153109561
Buddhism is pretty funny, because seeking enlightenment is itself an attachment. Those dudes are throatsinging for nothing.
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>>153109577
>>153109588
And does it matter if other religions are also based on failed prophecies? All that means is just that they're wrong too, it doesn't get Christianity off the hook for making false claims.
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>>153109614
I think the point is that you'd never see an atheist travel to the middle east and try to convince the muslims allah isn't real, or take on the state of Israel. Christianity is an easy target because they won't behead you or take you to court for anti-semitism.
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>>153109621
but you see morals are independent of religion
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>it's foundation is an apocalyptic prophecy that never came true or pointing out that it's completely baseless to say some guy getting executed means you get a chance to live forever after you die.
It's foundation is the idea of God willingly dying in the most tortured way possible for sinners, which was so revolutionary and contrary to the idea of gods and how people high in hierarchy should act.

Christians built first public hospitals in Rome and Greece, that is a historical fact. Christians popularized the idea of empathy the Invincible is all about. Every humanist was acknowledging it that the gladiator games ended because of Christians.

But the left rebranded empathy into releasing violent criminal thugs with 10+ arrests, so they could masturbate to said thugs murdering a woman in metro, publicly refuse to honor her mother in Congress, and tear down her mural to demonstrate that they see every crime victim as a shit stain. This is why they rebrand demons as le good because they have perverted need of convincing innocent people as deserving of cruelty.
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>>153109630
This wa to >>153109561
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>>153109630
As for the apocalyptic part, pagans religions were apocalyptic in nihilistic sense. Norse believed in Ragnarok. Greek/Romans believed everything came from Chaos and was going to turn into Chaos (which is why you should appreciate gods/lords for maintaining current order, despite their blatant cruelty).
The reason why Greek philosophers embraced Christianity was because how close it was to Platonism and the idea of Logos - Divine Word/Order/Sense. In Christianity God has a plan, has created everything, and will take care of everything once the world ends due to current order getting out of hand.

Christianity answered the problem of evil, presenting it as temporar and largely insignificant in face of promised life eternal. That's why it became a popular religion, phased out every local paganism, and the modern preserving religions share with it elements. People found it as attractive religion because it provided motivation to carry on with living when +95% of humanity was in extreme poverty and child mortality was at 50% if not higher.
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>>153109499
Satan and his bros couldn't even beat some loser magmawoman supervillain and needed Invincible to do everything.

Why is everyone on Earth reduced to having zero credability even in their own storylines that have nothing to do with viltrumites or the space plot?
There's no point to the setting.
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>>153104585
>am*rican
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>>153105391
Two decades is a really long time for counter-culture, it used to flip-flop within five years.
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>>153107437
>>Cant find evidence of OP posting the same exact thread (because he didnt)
The same text, but on a different board
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Why can’t these newfound online "converts" ever admit they don’t actually believe in anything and are just snooping through religious institutions in hopes of policing lives under constitutional protections leftists would never dream to have or finding a pure virgin wife that they’ll hate deep down
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>>153110529
the irony
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>>153104585
>>Religion is le bad
They don't even say any religion is bad but it is when it's clearly infiltrated and twisted to cause suffering and make money. All the people saying Jesus is coming back and repent or else [insert retarded interpretation of hell] are annoying and not making life here better. Constantly talking about how there's no hope and the best you're getting is in death fingers crossed if you're lucky is not helping much. Saying everything that's not strictly what you're used to seeing in humans in every day life is demonic or evil is retarded and not helpful. That's why priests and others in their group rape so effectively, they pass superficially as good people in the religion. Yeah kirkman and amazon aren't the best messengers for that and have their own dumb religions they subscribe to but it's true.
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>>153109711
It became popular because Constatine banned all other religions, including other versions of the Jesus club at the time. A lot of people were converted with swords being held to their throats.
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>>153110529
I didn't even think of the power tripping payback aspect of it. Reminds me of that fake spiteful possessed cunt in the mist movie. I think that's a lot of Christians now. Just flesh puppets for some evil malicious entities larping as virtuous loving people. But the ones following them would be too scared of disobeying what they think is God to notice it's not God or go against it.
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>>153110529
It's a reaction to the craziness of the last decade or so. Most of them aren't real converts, it's just left wing repellant or cultural chic, like holding up a cross to a vampire or wearing goth stuff you got from hot topic to express rebelliousness, you know like going punk.
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Kirkman, what are you doing on 4chan?
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>>153104585
Why do you care if heaven exists or not?
You're never getting in.
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>Malicious beings notorious for the sin of Pride who were mercilessly (but completely justifiably) cast into the darkest pits of the Earth refuse to admit the existence of the being that did that to them, when some fire bitch is already kicking their ass and making them look weak
Out-of-universe this was simply more blatant Satanist propaganda from Amazon, but all the anti-God crap makes a lot more sense in-setting if you look at from the angle that Damian was simply trying to save face, as well as unconsciously doing what demons naturally do (deceive).
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>>153110819
>*It’s a shock to people that malicious
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>>153110819
>it makes a lot more sense if you believe my headcanon
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>>153110362
>same text
Literally not, troon
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>>153110871
Amazon (and media in general really) peddling blatant pro-He’ll media is a headcanon?
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>>153104585
I'm just waiting for Gen Alpha to get into the industry so we can see version of this shit that pokes fun at wokies. Modern Christians just want to be left alone. Woke types are more likely to display the traits this faggot >>153110736 says are characteristic of Christans
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>>153110901
*Hell
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>>153110904
There is no liberal equivalent of 2025 trying to force your cult on the governmental level.
>>153110782
Going Punk implies you're a minority or counterculture, instead of a sheep following what half the country, media and government believes and demands as conformity.
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i'm getting irony poisoning
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>>153110956
The culture since 2010 has been strongly left wing, buddy, across media, government, education, business, and nearly all social media in the entire western world. The left wing hasn't been counterculture since the 00s.
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>>153110904
Gen Alpha is growing up through a global energy crisis inflicted by Christians launching a jihad on Iran. They are seeing the president being praised for this and being compared to Jesus by his sycophants. The alt-right belief leading up to 2016 that they could get behind Republicans because the Bible thumping wing of the party were sufficiently tamed both politically and culturally was a gross miscalculation. Now my state's attorney general is declaring that he's going to outright ignore enforcing the state's laws and constitution to "encourage" Christianity
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holy fuck you're retarded
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>>153111029
>Christians launching a jihad on Iran
Israel did that, and only US evangelicals joined in because your country is bought out, Christians across the rest of the world literally do not care.
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>>153105669
Gnosticism is just schizoposting.
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>>153110904
Don't get butthurt over the truth of many Christians being fake cunts, even basic Christians shit on what they consider fake Christians. Why do you think there's so many denominations? It's clearly not because they're all agreeing or acting right.
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>>153111029
Evangelicals follow a heresy called dispensationalism, which is basically service to the antichrist in hope of ushering in the apocalypse and ending the world. They believe everything can only ever get worse, except Israel, which must have all resources and effort given towards supporting, as it's the only thing that can be improved, and is crucial in invoking the antichrist to end the world.

Catholics and mainline protestants are opposed to it and find it extremely heretical and blasphemous.
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>>153111052
>state's attorney general is declaring that he's going to outright ignore enforcing the state's laws and constitution to "encourage" Christianity
Evangelical Christians in the US are practically a different religion from anywhere else. No other country practices that kind of insane fundie Christianism.

It's why when UK or Europeans roll their eyes at 'fedora atheists' in the states, they don't realize the liberals there are fighting against a completely different monstrosity that isn't anything like their tame vanilla Christianity back at home because they already live in secular countries, not a Puritan theocracy.
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>>153109306
Funny how you all have jewdicks regardless of religious affiliation.
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>>153111077
So basically Accelerationism with religious fervor
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>>153111099
Americans in general are fucking insane, regardless of social, political or religious affiliation. They'll do crazy shit for the good of all mankind like landing on the moon or creating the internet and then turn around and mutilate the genitals of thousands of people and give billions to apocalyptic cults hellbent on making the world worse. They're really weird, it's gotta be lead or plastics or something.

>>153111108
Nah, still got mine. Circumcision isn't actually a Christian practice, that's old testament stuff and hasn't applied since Christ formed the new covenant.
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>>153111099
It’s not limited to evangelicals either. Catholicism in the US is mutating at a rapid pace that the Pope can hardly control. His pleas for peace and brotherhood are falling on deaf ears here. I didn’t want to get into specifics, but when I said my state wanted to enforce Christianity, what I really meant a completely MAGAfied, heckin based & redpilled tradcath thing going on straight out of Ave Maria University.
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>>153110956
>There is no liberal equivalent of 2025 trying to force your cult on the governmental level
Obnoxious overdone forced progressivism has been in media for over ten years now. Things like female supremacy while shitting on men, taking established popular series and trying to make the characters black, making things more gay in an exaggerated stereotypical way etc. Invincible is actually an example of that. Outside of that I distinctly remember people obviously on the left like feminists being called right wing extremists because they didn't want to pretend trans women are actually much like biological women. And they censored trans jokes in GTA because "it could contribute to harming real life trans" when the game is about murdering people with guns and guns kill many many more people. It's just annoying and counterproductive but people defend it as if it's just about being a good person.
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>>153111178
What part of "on the governmental level" did you not get?
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>>153111204
When you're talking about forcing cult shit on people to make their lives worse it still applies and it's arguably worse. Entertainment is supposed to be an escape or break from things like government nonsense especially for kids who probably aren't going to be that involved in the latest government fuck ups. But they forced the retarded politics into that anyway. Partly for money and grooming partly because they're actually dumb enough to think it's reasonable.
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Ok but what was the actual point if this episode? What does it add to the overall plot? It’s a new episode detached from the source material, so does that mean we’re getting more of this crap that’ll affect the ending of the shows, because right now it’s just a boring filler ep with the worst take on demons ever conceived
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>>153111268
You keep invoking "government" and "politics" where there is none at all because you don’t understand what an actual free civil society entails.
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>>153111297
This actually a good question, I got the impression the whole thing was just arbitrarily built around Darkblood consoling Mark, so they filled it with as much crap as they needed to pad out the episode length. No idea why they picked Darkblood of all characters for the confidante role, they could have gone with nearly anyone else on the available cast.
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>It's another "people don't know the difference between Satan, the Beast of Revelations and Lucifer" debate

Satan is God's JAILER.
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>>153109621
>I think the point is that you'd never see an atheist travel to the middle east
That's because 99% of it is a shithole, you cannot afford to stay in the good parts, and there's not a lot to see there besides old ruins.
I would go to India to talk about Atheism either, in fact I don't try to redpill anyone about religion, I feel that everyone subscribing to it is doing so for emotional/social fit-in reasons.

If you want to believe that life suddenly turns to Good End at the very ending, and that makes you feel good, be my guest.
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>>153111364
>I would go to India
I'm very sorry to hear that, I hope you get well soon.
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>>153111364
*wouldn't
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>>153111178
I will take it in good faith that you are not retarded enough, to conflate raceswaps, "lesbian character in my favorite cartoon for children" or "girlboss, ew cooties instead of making ME THE BOY CHARACTER BADASS" done by enthusiastic wokee writers- with actual political thinktanks funding billions of dollars into legislative and political capital to turn countries into religious cult hellholes based on their extremist beliefs. One you can literally close your eyes and walk away from the screen niggah, the other will have holy warriors with badges and government backing coming to arrest and shitstomp your face.
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>>153111376
I only travel to seen natural wonders. Artistic stacks of bricks don't do much for me. I live in a first world country, a lot of which I haven't visited.
There's nothing to draw me to poorer countries for tourism, I understand the brick-stacks are the oldest, but whatever.
Everyone is entitled to their own variety of religious copium.
Whichever you indulge in is fine with me, don't hassle me with it or concern yourself with how I am getting by.
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>>153111268
Like this, you think gays and POCs in cartoons are 'grooming' when evangelicals fund conversion therapy shit which is LITERALLY grooming and forcing kids to try to be straight so they can get molested by creepy pedopriests and cub counselors at fucked up brainwashing rapecamps.
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>>153111399
>the other will have holy warriors with badges and government backing coming to arrest and shitstomp your face.
You've never said anything naughty on the internet in the UK
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>>153111422
Need we remind you of the discord grooming rings?
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>>153111423
I don't live in 1984 Kingdom so thank god. But to fair they're not just cracking down on the right there, they're prettymuch assholes across the political spectrum. Whether you're brown, conservative jesusgay or trans you'll have all your privacy and rights taken away equally.
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>>153111423
A certain level of resinous shitposting SHOULD get your internet privileges pulled.
Then you can talk your shit irl and risk consequences.
You brave little online tough-faggot you.
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>>153111436
>Some randos on discord or just as political as government funded brainwash camps
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>>153111436
I strongly feel that online kiddy-fishing is a bipartisan issue.
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>>153111460
Ain't that the goddamned truth.
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>>153111457
He's more than willing to drown you in false equivalencies, just so you know.
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>>153111460
Just like puritanism and hatred of porn/sex is pretty bipartisan. Funny how horseshoe applies with the most religion and most woke advocates unable to tolerate any sexuality at all.
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>>153111457
>government funded
That's not a thing. An evangelical politician privately funding that shit is not the same as actual government policy. Questionable yes, abhorrent absolutely, but still private individuals doing whatever the fuck they want to people.
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>>153111494

See
>>153111029
It's legally prohibited in most states to fund or support conversion therapy. That doesn't stop the crazies from slowly eroding those protections and creeping christ's way in by just ignoring that.
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>>153111488
>woke advocates unable to tolerate any sexuality at all.
I have never experienced this phenomena in my life. Even my best-friend's trans "sister in law" is desperately trying to get fucked by attractive guys. Are you sure you aren't just fighting bots and schizos online?
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>>153111526
Which state are you in, which attorney general is this, and can you post the statement?
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>>153111422
When you're provoking dumb arguments and trying to groom kids to believe in clearly harmful things in the name of leftwing politics you're not making a more civil society. You can't honestly say it's just rightoids causing problems.
>>153111399
You got a license for that post?
>>153111422
Besides the discord grooming and multiple cases of fags fucking underage boys or doing perverted shit with them in public they do encourage a lot of people to transition when they're clearly not even going to pass. And they get mad if any of them consider detransitioning. A few years ago that eceleb moist critical argued unironically it was fine to groom boys to eventually have their nuts chopped off at a later age, while he was arguing with sneako about marrying young being insane. You can't argue it's fine to marry a child and technically wait to fuck them until the arbitrary age of consent but it's fine to groom a child to eventually disfigure themselves for life once they hit that magical age.
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>>153111494
There would never be public money for conversion therapy purely on its own as individual clinic, but the barriers between public funding and religious schools are disintegrating in red states where they can sure as hell get a conversion-minded school shrink.
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>>153111551
So you're just stuck conflating fags with pedos, that's your stance?
>multiple cases of fags fucking underage boys
Openly gay people aren't any more likely to fuck kids than anyone else.
This picture contains two pedophiles, can you spot them?
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>>153111535
It's mostly twitter/bluesky types that think any type of porn or sexualization at all is a some -ism or -phobia and will scree at the sight of it.
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>>153111174
The funny thing about tradcaths is that they're really just evangelicals who like the aesthetics of Catholicism. They are only fooling themselves.
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>>153111579
So basically you are engaging with the most demented online schizos and making broad assumptions on how the world works based on their ranting? Did I get that right?
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>>153111535
The ones complaining about the objectification of women whenever attractive women are in something or someone wants to put them in something or get an erection over them usually have their own sex fantasies and guys they want to fuck irl. Being hypocrites doesn't stop them from bitching. They think because they're women or oppressed it's justified. If it's not satisfying some woman or gay guy's lust they can pretend it's heckin evil. Leftists and rightoid Christians do this.
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>>153111551
That sounds like two separate issues you're conflating. Educating kids to make their own choices and find their sexual/gender identity is a net positive and should always be encouraged.

If the person 'educating them' is also trying to fuck/marry them or hoping to tap them once they turn legal, that's just plain grooming. You can help kids discover themselves without being a predator.

But funnily, not to throw them under the bus but fags and gays do genuinely do that shit alot more than trannies, we just tell them how to buy DiY. Most don't want to fuck some pre-opt tranny kid.
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>>153111554
And this is different how from public school social studies curriculum being heavy handed left wing rhetoric for the last fifteen years? Back then it was apparently a good thing.
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>>153111332
I think Kirkman just wishes he would have used Damien Darkblood more in the comics. That's about as deep as it goes.
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>>153111590
Yeah? Just like Righties are with cartoons turning their frogs gay.

Plus apparently they're making online age verification/ID laws in Europe and pretty much everywhere, and the left is fully behind that aswell. And all the insane censorship laws in canada will be coming anywhere EU too.
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>>153111614
Being a hypocrite makes you FAR MORE likely to spend your time bitching. People are free to be hypocrites. They just shouldn't be allowed to make binding laws based on hypocrisy.

Here's staunch Republican (still) and longest-serving Republican Speaker of the House (still) Denny Hastert.
A reliable vote against gay marriage rights.
(And also convicted for abusing campaign money to pay hush money to the families of boys he fucked while working for the school system).
Still part of the GOP, still a fundraiser for them.
A bigger hypocrite would be harder to name.
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>>153111630
>Plus apparently they're making online age verification/ID laws in Europe and pretty much everywhere
Try and convince me that is a bad thing in any way. Online anonymity is a cancer.
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>>153111626
Bah. I wish we'd have gotten Cecil mending some fences with Mark instead. In the ballpark of making hard, questionable decisions to save as many lives as possible, there literally isn't a single character with more experience at it than him, for a moment it almost seemed like he would, but he never said the actual words "I know what it does to a person to make those choices."
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>>153111547
>Florida won’t enforce a plank of its constitution barring public funds from going to religious institutions, Attorney General James Uthmeier stated Thursday.
>Uthmeier, who was appointed to the Cabinet position by Gov. Ron DeSantis in February 2025, issued an unprompted legal opinion declaring the state constitution’s ban on funding for religious institutions to violate the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees the free exercise of religion.
>“Unfortunately, some Florida laws prohibit religious schools from accessing public funds. That’s why during this Holy Week I issued a formal legal opinion concluding those laws are unconstitutional and my office will not enforce them,” Uthmeier stated in a video posted on X.
>Moreover, Uthmeier’s legal opinion argues the First Amendment’s clause preventing the establishment of a particular religion only applies to the federal government, and the states are free to impose their own state religion
>“(The Establishment Clause) did not impose the same restriction on the states. In fact, many states at the Framing had established churches,” Uthmeier wrote.
>Also, the First Amendment doesn’t bar the states from “encouraging” religion, especially Christianity, Uthmeier asserts.
>“It is clear, then, that the First Amendment did not displace Christianity as the center of the nation’s religious identity. At the Framing, ‘the general, if not universal sentiment in America was, that Christianity ought to receive encouragement from the State, so far as such encouragement was not incompatible with the private rights of conscience, and the freedom of religious worship,’” Uthmeier wrote, citing the 1833 book ‘Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States’ by Joseph Story.

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>>153111670
Cecil will never stop fucking Mark's life, because "dangerous people" is all the justification he needs to do ANYTHING to the extreme.
He's nobody's friend at all, even his sidekick.
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>>153111574
I didn't say just fags were pedos or all fags are pedos or grooming just pointing out they are trying to groom kids to be gay and some of the worst types of gay. The promiscuity in these communities does much more damage than in straight communities unless you involve all the bastard kids. They spread disease like crazy. Don't know why you ignored the rest of that post involving being gay with extra steps and ruining your life to larp as the opposite sex until you kill yourself.
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>>153111671
See. this.
Teh gays fought in the system and the courts for decades to gain marriage Rights.
The Conservatives will just trump Law with Sentiment. Icky feelings.
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>Uthmeier’s interpretation of the Establishment Clause also claims that while atheists are protected in their beliefs, their actions derived from nonbelief aren’t “privileged” in the same way as those who adhere to a religion.
>The legal opinion could allow charter schools, which are independently run but receive funding from public school districts, to be religious in nature, and allow a state scholarship program to provide funds for students to attend Christian colleges
>Uthmeier’s letter cites the Effective Access to Student Education grant program, which provides scholarships to private nonprofit colleges. Under state law, religious colleges can’t receive EASE grants.
>Florida statutes creating the charter school framework also require those schools to be nonreligious. “This blanket exclusion of all religious entities violates the First Amendment,” Uthmeier wrote.
>But a deadlocked U.S. Supreme Court last year effectively upheld an Oklahoma Supreme Court decision rejecting a push to create a Catholic charter school. The court split 4-4 on the case, as Justice Amy Coney Barrett recused herself.

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And as the last line points out, the only reason this isn’t already in place in all 50 states is that one of the SCOTUS justices was already entangled with a Catholic school herself and needed to sit out on the case.
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>>153111707
Gays have a lot going on in their lives, I expect they spend a lot less time "grooming people" to their lifestyle than everyone else.
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>>153111687
It seems like he's softening up a bit lately, though. He's still got his own trust issues and can't see Mark as anything more than a potential threat, but given what we know about his backstory, you'd think he'd understand Mark going for the permanent solutions more than he appears to, instead it's Donald making the rational point that blowing off Rus' head in all likelihood saved the fucking planet from the Sequids. It just seems silly and a way to continue the drama between them.
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>>153105683
>>153105703
What did the Mossad get out of that, exactly?
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>>153105820
*what some bitch still seething over his parents making him go to church says via a fat demon
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>>153111728
No, he fully realizes Mark is a moral individual, which he sees as Naive. So he FEELS bad for all the fucking with his life, past, present and future he's planning. But it's not going to prevent him from doing it again and again and again as he sees fit, as unquestioned judge of Right.
So he's a worthless friend, even dangerous as an ally. Exposing your vulnerabilities to him is highly inadvisable.
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>>153111743
>Seethes
>assigns seething to other people he's never met or spoken to.
Jesus isn't off crying about it, and supposedly God has a plan for this eventuality. So don't get your panties in a twist.
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>>153111671
>>153111717
Granted, this is deeply concerning, but looks like it's still above board when it comes to legality, even if it's semantics and sentiments. Calling these places conversion centers is a little uncharitable though, the kids going to these schools are already from religious families and inducted into the faith that way. They're not taking in kids from irreligious families and browbeating them until they believe, that isn't how it works. I can say as someone who attended three different christian schools that they don't slap you on the wrist or punish you in any way for not being devout though to be fair, could be a different case for american schools. I don't think they should have public funds under any circumstances because it makes them even more subject to state or federal regulation in curriculum, and these schools can't count on the political winds staying the way they are. Education in general should be politically neutral, focused only on teaching kids how to think, and not what to think.
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>>153111754
I think the show version is expressing some degree of remorse for violating Mark's trust the way he did, to the point that if Mark goes off the rails it'll probably be because Cecil fucked with him too much. There's been way less hostility on his part, even if he's still going behind his back like he did with Conquest. Anyway, it's still weird that they chose Darkblood as the guy to tell Mark he's not a monster and have Mark actually start to accept it.
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>>153111108
Masturbator hands wrote this post.
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>>153111615
>Educating kids to make their own choices and find their sexual/gender identity is a net positive and should always be encouraged
It's not just educating if you're only talking about how great it is because you're biased. If a kid gets raped from grooming they're less likely to be disfigured for life on top of the mental scarring than someone pushed to transition. To take someone's cock, tits, voice etc and they don't even pass is clearly just cruelty. You're just encouraging them to do goofy shit that's going to make them want to kill themselves.
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>>153111108
>penis fantasies out of nowhere
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>>153111905
It's more "everyone is a monster, some people are friendly monsters, nobody is pure and you cannot be and accomplish things".
Hence Satan doing "good" by indulging his torture-fetish on even worse creatures.
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>>153111912
>You're just encouraging them to do goofy shit that's going to make them want to kill themselves.
Like say, voting for Trump 3 times?
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>>153111937
I get that, I just don't get why these characters when it's not even in the comics. Like you said, it's probably just Kirkman wishing he'd done more with Darkblood.
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>>153111952
Their situation in Hell is sorta Dark Comedy (especially Satan) and I think he wanted a less serious episode as a break before shit got heavy with Debbie, Nolan, Conquest, all of it.
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>>153111488
Wokies are fine with sexuality. Just not male heterosexuality, and even male heterosexuality is okay as long as it's based on a love of being servile and degraded. Or if it's a transbian gushing over his "girlcock".
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>>153111945
Trump voters don't have a suicide attempt statistic hovering around 50%, unless I'm behind the news.
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>>153111966
See this guy here thinks this post is provocative; when in fact it reads as a lonely, despairing cry for help. God Damn.
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>>153111945
You can take the maga hat off. You're not undoing a missing cock/tits, deeper voice, ED/infertility as easily.
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>>153111975
You're absolutely leaving farmers out of that statistic, let me tell you.
t. Lives in farm belt.
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>>153111999
Man, people of all walks Bog themselves erry fucking day. It would be a lot more if they could get healthcare to pay for it.
People are a trouble lot, making poor decisions.
Thus it has been for 10's of thousands of years.
It's nothing for you to have panic attacks about.
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>>153111999
Right now, the airwaves are full of new recruitment advertisements, luring young people into gov't brainwashing. If this current war for Israel/Sunnis goes off the rails, a lot of them will come back in their very own gov't provided Goybox.
Life is full of dangerous choices.
It's not for you and me to stress over it.
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>>153112005
Between gas prices and deportation actions, I guess it doesn't surprise me. Those guys are already on tight profit margins even with subsidies.
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>>153112116
Donald's belligerent fuckery has driven off the international customers they needed to get ahead. Don gave Argentina $20 billions in taxpayer money, which they promptly took advantage of and marked all their crop exports down and lowered the market prices.
I mean good old Missouri farmer "hates them trannies" as much as this >>153111999 dipstick, but Donald has raped them into insolvency. They do hate them trannies tho.
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>>153111854
>the kids going to these schools are already from religious families and inducted into the faith that way.
That doesn’t stop them from finding themselves veering towards beliefs or preferences proscribed by their households.
When I was in Catholic high school, there was a gay kid who was deathly afraid that his parents would find out who he really was deep down. It really became a fiasco when she found out he "happened" to take up a pro gay marriage stance in debate class and went ballistic on him and the school for ever letting that happen. It got so bad the debate teacher ultimately took the fall and was fired for "forcing" the kid to choose that stance in class.
A long-time friend of my family teaches kindergarten at my Catholic elementary school. She told us years after I left that for Thanksgiving, all the little kids were to decorate wagons themed for the holiday and whoever had the best display one would win a prize. The winner chosen by the teachers had nothing Thanksgiving on his wagon at all, it was just a big rolling praise of Donald Trump.
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>>153112191
To be fair, Donald made Thanksgiving great again. Though you can probably only afford a smaller bird, and more than 2 sides is just extravagance.
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>>153112116
They were already getting shafted just by his trade wars alone, torching their export markets and making imported fertilizer very expensive. This all already happened in his first term that they needed a ten figure bailout, then 70% went ahead and voted for him twice more.
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>>153112247
They sure do hate them trannies.
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>>153104585
>Heaven and God doesnt exist but Hell and demons do
So does everyone just go to hell? Even all those kids that got killed through Nolan/Conquest?
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>>153112271
Shit I forgot how to count, it was an *eleven* figure bailout
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>>153112340
I don't think Hell is a proper afterlife here, it's mainly a prison for the Vile.
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Sorry OP the cool chud thing nowadays is satanist accelerationism
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>>153111999
The women aren’t undoing their Mar-A-Lago face
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>>153112362
Still only half of what they sent to Argentina, I guess because Milei sucks a mean dick, or Trump plans to go hide in Nazi Resortland after he's out of office.
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>>153111588
When I was in a men's small group, someone came along a for few weeks as he was discerning between Catholicism or Orthodoxy. It really felt like he was trying to pick out a coat of paint for what kind of chud he would style himself as. That was one of several other red flags that I needed to distance myself from the group.
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>>153105391
State enforced Reddit atheism is the only way of preventing Christian zionists from starting WW3
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>>153105391
>Same as it ever was
>Same as it ever was
>Same as it ever was
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>>153113599
Must have been crazy to see him get elected as Vice President later on
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>>153112417
>cool
>chud
Not possible.
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>>153104585
In Buddhism and other religions their hell is kinda like this. They're not necessarily evil they just have to torture for their job and they just happened to love the job. If you look at this from literally any other point of view except from that of an American prosperity gospel faggot. But much like op those are the kinds to use the Lord's name in vain for more or less the modern equivalent of indulgences and simultaneously get offended at fiction and cartoons.
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>>153115219
None of that shit matters. Your religion is fake and dumb. If you're a Catholic then you're even worse. My pastor says that anyone who supports Satan deserves death. You deserve death.
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>>153115250
Does he say that before or after he rapes and grooms you?

>Listen anon, what we do in private is between us and if you tell anyone else that will be you supporting Satan. You know what that means right?
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>>153115265
Kill yourself faggot troon lover. Jesus Christ will come down and smite you for your lies. My pastor is a man of God and you saying shit like that proves you are a servant of Satan. You will burn in hell for eternity.
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>>153109306
American atheist that constantly criticize Christianity make sense when you realize they all are talking about American Evangelicalism, that is an actual doomsday cult
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>>153109306
In the west maybe? Cuz that's just a dumb thing to say when there's tons of anime and even south American shows like onyx Equinox that are distinctly not Christianity. Hell FMA had a main antagonist be more or less a Muslim terrorist with an explosion power. You're talking like a dumbass who has seen like 5 shows all from the US and you're so sure that's the only things that exist.
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>>153104585
Kike subversion from Kikeman.
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Jesus fucking Christ
/co/mblr in full force
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>>153104585
Isn't Invincible in the same universe as Spawn?
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>>153107157
>bro what if (insert character) said dude and swore and fucked stuff up lmao
Animators really only have one joke don't they?
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>>153105787
>suddenly troons
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>>153104585
>>153104944

I should rewatch Bible Black again and see if the demons of Hell are as evil as they say they are.
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>Nobody cares about your fake outrage, christcuck larper
Evidently (You) do fag boy
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>>153107157
I'm glad Felix got this out of his system and focused his energy on cool psychedelic shit instead.
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>>153104585
while I don't discount that there is some subversion, especially with invincible specifically,
>Heaven and God don't exist but Hell and demons do
this is a common mythological trope that isn't necessarily antagonistic towards god/heaven or atheistic. what you often see is hell and evil being lowered to mortal interference, they can only exist as a contrivance within god's design. god or goodness is content to let its design speak for itself, it is the harmony of the universe.
from the human perspective the non hell afterlife is treated as an unfathomable, transcendent state of being, it is fine to reduce hell to an inferno realm with pointy tridents but the beyond should remain an unknowable wonder.
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>>153121886
COPE
COPE
FUCKING COPE
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>>153105391
Christians were annoying.
Christians are still annoying.
Anti-christians are now more annoying than chtistians.
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>>153111204
Point at these niggers and laugh.
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>>153115250
>>153115294
Remember when in 2008 we'd laugh at retards like this that trolled this badly?
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>>153122372
>troll
oh boy
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>>153104928
This post could have simply been condensed into "poorly written because of retarded authors"
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>>153104585
I don't remember this guy from the comics
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>>153109307
Even the ancient greeks were already debating if god was needed for morality
This is not a new position

If god is the source of morals, then if commanded to murder people then that would be moral, which is a ridiculous proposition
If god points to morality, then god is just a middleman we could remove entirely

Modern ethics arent even inherently Christian in nature
Kant is pretty much the basis of modern ethics, and while he was raised a christian, he explicitly mentions the use of reason to reach his conclusions
Goodness and virtue are achieved by reasoning without appeal to god
Most developed nations are secular and assume morality is reached through reason rather than skydaddys journal and the world is objectively better for it
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>>153122729
>If god is the source of morals, then if commanded to murder people then that would be moral, which is a ridiculous proposition
are you a literal fucking child?
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>>153122740
thats literally the Euthyphro dilemma from Plato
is something good because god commands it, or does god command it because it is good?

if its the former, then you have to defend the rather indefensible position of murder being good if god commanded it
"but god would never do such a thing" implies that you have your own set of moral codes that exists separately from god, and therefore morality is not contingent on gods command

if its the latter, then morality came before god
and whats more, morality can be reached independently from god without ever knowing he exists
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>>153104585
Worst episode of the season SO FAR!

Entire episode was just a Bruce campbell jerk off.
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>>153104585
Why are christ-cucks so easily offended?
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>>153122037
>Anti-christians are now more annoying than christians.
No, christians have gotten significantly more annoying recently since people have started identifying as christian purely for political reasons rather than out of sincere religious belief.
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>>153104585
This is fucking retarded. Also, Satan is a bitch ass nigga
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>>153122876
Man I wish someone would coherently argue this against Andrew Wilson
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>>153123532
Not offended enough to make a whole filler episode bitching about ideological opponents thoughever. Half this episode was just atheistic evangelism.
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>>153122729
>If god is the source of morals, then if commanded to murder people then that would be moral, which is a ridiculous proposition
This is like saying if water is wet, then if it was a rock it would get you wet. It's a moot point when your argument hinges on something not being what it is.
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>>153104585
It's just people living underground. They are mortal.
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>>153123767
>atheistic evangelism
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>>153123784
>. It's a moot point when your argument hinges on something not being what it is.
the point is that if you can decide for yourself that murder is bad for reasons other than "god said so" then congratulations, you can use reason to define morality
and if our basis for morality is reason rather than god, then we dont actually need god to determine what is and isnt moral

god isnt morality, god just points to whats moral
and if thats the case, then morality preceded god



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