So apparently the new Muppet Show was the first time they'd built a new puppet for Rowlf in quite some time, and the puppet Bill Barretta had been using in previous projects (presumably The Muppets 2011, Muppets Most Wanted, and the The Muppets 2015 sitcom) had also been used by Jim Henson while he was still alive. This blew my mind. How long do Muppets (the actual puppets themselves) last for?? I figured they made a new puppet for each character with each new movie/show.
>>153117597Damn, RIP old Rowlf. I was thinking myself how old that puppet was, because he was still so fluid.
>>153117597I think it depends on how badly damaged the puppet is after a certain point, or whether or not they want to add additional functions to them.If I had to guess, I think they couldn't do any more bandage fixes to that old Rowlf puppet and had to make a new one, it's been a decade since his last appearance after all.
>>153117597He's literally the oldest Muppet we recognize, he came before Kermit.
>>153117597Muppets are ensouled beings, so they have to be careful about making too many copies.
I just wish they'd change or get rid of the Fozzie they've been using since the 2011 movie. I don't like how gangly he looks. I don't like that the new Scooter is noticeably taller than Kermit either (they used to be roughly the same size), but that bothers me less so.
>>153117597Full series order when? ratings where good and made more people stream more Muppets stuff.Are they waiting for the Upfronts since the special was a collab with ABC and Disney+.
>>153119834>Full series order when?Right? It's taking forever when we all know it's coming. Disney would have to be insane after how well it did.
>>153118549You mean the modern frog Kermit.
>>153117597>How long do Muppets (the actual puppets themselves) last for??I recall watching an interview with Henson many years ago where this was asked and if I remember correctly he said that most of the common characters in the original tv show in the 70s were remade 3 or 4 times or more during the series run as they did wear out from use.
>>153120788Wow. How did they go from "they wear out and need replacing after a year or two" to "Rowlf lasted 30+ years"?
>>153122208Maintaining a puppet is like reupholstering a couch that’s sometimes a car, you replace or repair parts as you need to without chucking out the whole thing. It looks like ‘76 Rowlf lives in a museum in NY these days. >Rowlf was built in 1962 for Purina Dog Chow commercials and rose to fame in the mid-1960s as a show-stealing comic sidekick on the ABC series The Jimmy Dean Show. Rowlf represents several important “firsts” for Henson’s company: the first Muppet to achieve national popularity, the first Muppet built by Don Sahlin, and the first puppet that Henson and Frank Oz performed together.https://movingimage.org/collection/puppet-rowlf-1976/
>>153117597Adam Savage's "Tested" on youtube has a great video where he gets to handle one of the original Waldorf puppets and they talk a lot about how the materials degrade over time and stuff. You'd probably enjoy it
>>153122208Rowlf was Henson's favorite character to play, so after he died they put him on the shelf for a while, that might have contributed.
>>153118732>Moopets are what happens when you make too many Muppets
>>153117597depends on how much you're gonna use them
