john k is better than any other cartoonist and it's not even close
>>153143072Shut up, John
>>153143072At rape?
>>153143108allegations aren't always real
>>153143072LolLmao even
>>153143119except when they are and proven in court
>>153143072Man was an incredible animator, but a faggot with daddy issues and a pedo.What a waste.
>>153143072If Michael earned those kids John earned those women.
>>153143108He’s not even the best at being a piece of shit if we’re honest.
>>153143491for his generation, maybe. Clarence and loud house and rick n marty scandals happened decades later
>>153143472MJ didn’t rape nobody, you retard
>>153143358This one was invented by a manchild who doesn’t know you can have a lawyer without going to court>>153143108John “raped” Katie into a well-known and well-respected cartoonist instead of a Waffle House waitress as she could realistically expect to be from her white trash upbringing.
>>153143072I agree, unironically. It's a shame he was so terrible with deadlines, even if that perfectionism was part of the reason his best cartoons turned out as well as they did. I was rewatching old Ren & Stimpy and the timing feels perfect to me, it holds up as the funniest cartoon I've seen. I can't think of many cartoons that come close to being as funny through art and animation, rather than primarily the joke writing and voices (R&S nailed those aspects as well).I wonder what it would've been like if he did more voices. I don't know how great his range was, but his Ren voice was great. Citrocet on Ripping Friends was a pretty good variation on that voice too.
>>153143072his project define him well, canned from the industry
>>153143619That was thanks to other cartoonists
>>153143572the whole point of lawyers of representation on your behalf
>>153143641Not entirely. It was the perfect mix up people together at the right time, a lot of great talents contributed, but a big part of it was still John.
>>153143681>>153143622
>>153143695That doesn't contradict my statement.
why do spergs have a parasocial relationship with this dude
>>153143720Then John simply lost the touch
>>1531437621. His cartoon was a massive success, a lot of people grew up loving it2. He ran an educational blog people learned a ton from3. “Offensive” individuals can’t work in the industry so turn to John’s work and similar instead despite being canceled.
>>153143762He was (still is, though tainted) an iconic cartoonist. Icons always have parasocial followers. For a long time, pretty much anyone deeply into cartoons looked up to him. Both for his work and what he stood for with cartoons. On top of that, he was very present online before a lot of other cartoonists, with a relatively popular blog where he shared advice and stuff. So that probably developed some of the same parasocial stuff you get from other online personalities, I guess.>>153143780Fair when you put it that way, his later stuff is polarizing and most would agree it's worse. Personally I didn't think Cans Without Labels was as bad as people said, but I might have felt different if I had backed it and waited that many years.
>>153143762He got to groom and rape a child and they look up to that
>>153143762Because they see themselves in him. Same reason any shitty person has fans.
>>153143878This. Power fantasy of geek fame and creep impunity
>>153143780You can say that in more than one way kek
>>153143878>>153143933But the grooming stuff didn't come out for a long time, so that explanation doesn't hold up.
>>153143969*Also, I should point out that as bad as what he did was, he never "raped a child." No need to exaggerate. Grooming teenage girls is bad enough on its own.
>>153143909Alright little well-bred bussy bitchboy, your online homos have raised you well>>153143933nobody thinks like this besides feminists, in fact it’s a really shitty sexual fantasy for them because it’s the best they can do with their ruined minds>>153143878Turn to the furry and lgbtq communities if you want to find a ton of people who’ve enjoyed doing that. Hope this pisses you off
>>153143072Are we just going to ignore the barely disguised ableism in this man’s work?>>153143619Are we just going to ignore the fact his most iconic voice is an exaggerated Mexican stereotype?
>>153144204>his most iconic voice is an exaggerated Mexican stereotype?Ren is a caricature of Peter Lorre and sounds Hungarian
>>153143072Will Eisner.
>>153143072He's okay.
>>153143072Why are you people obsessed with this man?He makes one great show in the 90s and now we have to have countless threads slurping on his cock?He might have had great ideas but he could not handle how the animation industry works. You can't be a one-man show in animation. It's very difficult to pull off. Anytime a creator tries, they end up spending decades on one thing instead of building a portfolio of actually completed projects. Look at Richard Williams and the Thief and the Cobbler. Perfectionism is a big issue with some creators.The main issue with John K (besides the sex-pest nonsense) is that he could not keep deadlines and had to be removed from Ren and Stimpy because of his incompetence.
I’m thankful to John for how he taught me drawing methods I could apply to any interest I have for what to draw.His competitors typically get hostile with you even if you have your own thoughts!He did things like make fun of superheroes, but that’s a silly thing to be distracted by when he can teach you to draw superheroes anyway.
>>153146175The John K seasons of r&s have a legitimate place next to looney tunes, classic disney toons, tom and jerry in animation historyafter they got rid of him it just turned into a generic 90's kids cartoon.
>>153146264Yes, it diminished Ren & Stimpy, but there would not be a show if he had stayed because he would have wasted money missing deadlines. So pick your poison.
>>153146286Expecting him to meet deadlines set by shit like He-Man is just absurd in general. The industry should rework itself to accommodate him and other star cartoonists. No one cares if Doug met deadlines.
>>153143072I've always wondered how good of a artist he actually is because everything that worked in the original Ren and stimpy was mostly done by the team. A lot of the jokes and animation came from other people so it leads me to this fundamental question of how much of this history he has made up actually real
>>153146964>The industry should rework itself to accommodate him and other star cartoonists.No. Those deadlines were set for a reason. The networks needs this many episodes, this season, done at a certain point and time so they can broadcast and make money. They're paying the cartoonists to do their job and do it on time. Everything has checks and balances.
>>153146985His team would not exist without him. Bob Camp went on to nothing but working on other shows and referencing Spumco episodes to fans. He was a revolutionary and educator as well as a cartoonist, people came to his studios and left much better at art including ones like Bruce Timm who disassociated from him.>>153147010You worship Mammon.
>>153147089>You worship Mammon.Oh, great, schizobabble.
>>153146964He could have easily met the deadlines if he didn't pull retarded shit like forcing prop artists to redraw art 100s of times and then go with the first drawing for shits and giggles.
>>153147099Your slur for Christians is stupid and exists because you’re afraid of discrimination laws.>>153147119The Games episodes showed what his crew considered acceptable without him and it was often awfully ugly.
>>153147170You're scrambling because you know I'm right. John K could not handle the animation industry. That's why Cans Without Labels was such dogshit and why no one wants to work with him (and this is on top of the pedoshit and sexpest shit)
Here's my review of Bad Dragon's Cuttlefish of Cthulhu:You know, I was super super pumped for this. It’s just okay.It’s too squishy so you don’t really get the effect that you’re looking for. It’s a good size and nice quality, the head design and details are fantastic. I just wasn’t so blown away.6/10
>>153147099Guy is right on this one. People who follow your mindset are supporting the death of art at the hands of commercialism.
>>153143472>If Michael earned those kidsthat i was unironically jewish propaganda
>>153146175It’s not because of his work it’s because of his blog. If you want generational loyalty from cartoon autists use intermittent reinforcement to make them feel smart.
>>153143994You seem upset. Good
>>153146175Most anons are pedos and John K is part of their club
>>153147347post a video of you using it
>>153148934Wrong
>>153143072It’s kinda hypocritical that Paramount won’t have anything to do with John anymore, yet they’re besties with Trump.
>>153148934Then how can you believe this and still post on 4chan? Aren't you making yourself just as guilty by association?
>>153143072He's a flash in the pan and a dumb Canadian
>>153146964No because he is retard that blamed all of his shortcomings on his mental illness instead of taking responsibility like a grown man, and never got over his abusive father who is now six feet under.
>>153149969Because John K is an atheist
>>153146964No one wants to wait eight years for a cartoon short, which is the speed of John K. By the time he finishes everyone else moves on.
>>153150290I don't think his dad was actually abusive. Even after reading his blog posts about his dad. Stern and old school perhaps, but nothing that crossed the line into abuse.
>>153146964The history eraser button is such a great ending, don't know why they'd want it gone.
>>153143072The Canadian government should consider giving his sorry ass their euthanasia program and get it over withhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_in_Canada
>>153150304Nice fanfic
>>153143072Before the rape stuff he was egotistical bastard that believed in his own hype, made scathing reviews of cartoons he never saw under a pseudonym, and had a hateboner for Steven Spielberg. He sucks, he is a pig and a miserable old man.
>>153150328You really want John K in charge of the euthanasia program?
>>153150338Nice non-rebuttal
>>153143072Seth MacFarlane mogs him hard and is richer and more successful than him. John K will always be animation's miserable old bastard that yells at clouds.
>>153150290If he didn’t want to be abused by his father, he could’ve just not been abused by his father. Doesn’t sound that fucking hard.
>>153150345No they should euthanize his ass to end his miserable daddy issues ass
>>153150361I disagree.
>>153150345He is too retarded for that. As a matter of fact he will be eligible to be mercy killed since Canadians love murdering retards instead of giving them care. They are no different than Americans.
>>153150359If he wanted to meet deadlines, he could have met deadlines doesn't sound that hard.
>>153150370https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7o6OwHcY40
>>153143072Let's not forget he could have been in charge of Galaxy High School, but since he was late in meeting deadlines, that job went to Chris Columbus, movie director who who be more famous than him. The director of Home Alone and the Harry Potter movies is a better cartoonist than him, will be remembered more and be around longer than him.
>>153150395So he had all these awful habits before Ren and Stimpy. What a shock.
>>153150357This haunts his nightmares. The life he could have had, had he'd been a hard worker.
This thread is a madhouse.
>>153143072>>153150421This is what truly haunts him. A man he's poison penned and hated for years and is more successful than he will ever be, while he remains irrelevant and forgotten.
>>153150432Speak for yourself
>>153150342>>153150436He's poison penned Spielberg for years but he wishes he could be successful as he is.
>>153143072
My hatred for him stems from my hatred of Canadians>>153147170But John K is an atheist and anti-religious
>>153150395DON'T EVER bring this show up again or you'll attract that Tiny Toons poster who is just as retarded as John K's ass kissersThis show also sucks and should remain buried
>>153150479don't look
After decades of woke bean mouth, I don't even care if John K is guilty or not. Get that man back to making cartoons so things can stop sucking so fucking much.
>>153150491Retarded image
>153150497>Poor bait
>>153150491Fuck that Canuck fucker. Get Ralph Bakshi instead, he was the true cartoonist before John K Canadian came along, but people give him no respect.
>>153146964Vanessa is a fucking buzzkill
>>153150507>Get Ralph Bakshi insteadThis isn't an either or situation. You can have both...And you'll need both along with the rest of the old guard. Each one making good cartoons so the world (or at least the cartoon industry) can stop being so shit.
>>153150507I love Bakshi, but I've got to admit I like John's cartoons better on average
>>153143072>>153150491>>153150507>>153150526>>153150526Screw John K. Ralph Bakshi is the true king, the most influential and sadly the most plagerized. He had a better work ethic than that Canadian fucker. He deserves better.
https://youtu.be/yF7vfCA1_Jg
>>153150528John's cartoons are juvenile kindergarten shit compared to Bakshi.
>>153143072John K is a fucking nerd that never got lucky with the ladies
>>153143072>>153150572
>>153150304This is the gist of his daddy issues>>153150572>>153150585His dad thought he was a sissy queer for not doing any sports and for years he took issue with that.
>>153150632Dunno about his teenage years, but he had plenty of success with the ladies later in life. Shame he went from attractive adult women Lynne Naylor and April March to teenagers though.
>>153150491No because he is slowpoke who can't finish within a decade
>>153150656He also took shots against the Simpsons back in the 90s. The fact he would later animate a couch gag for them shows would a hypocrite he is. Or he was that desperate for relevancy and cash.
>>153150643>to teenagers though>CanadianScott Pilgrim anyone?
>>153150693Can you not bring that up neither? We had too many dump fire threads about Scott Pilgrim dating 17 year old, CAN WE GIVE THAT A REST Already?
>>153150693But she was 31 in real life!
>>153150693Scott Pilgrim also fucking sucks. Dumb hipster shit for perverts that jerk off to anime porn.
>>153150718Nice seething
>>153150718>Dumb hipster shitYou're a core millennial aren't you?
>>153143072> better than any other cartoonist I dont know about that
>>153150693>>153150718Scott Pilgrim vs. the World Ruined a Whole Generation of Womenhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TSKizLRFbTo&pp=ygUwc2NvdHQgcGlsZ3JpbSBydWluZWQgYSB3aG9sZSBnZW5lcmF0aW9uIGJhc3MgdGFi
'sup bitches, it's tamers12345 here, the real best cartoonist
>>153150730Speak for yourself, Scott Pilgrim vs. the World Ruined a Whole Generation of Menhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cJxgEHWGsfU
>>153150432>thread is too off-the-rails, even for guyWhen everyone is a schizo, no one is.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWb0itaSpRQ
>>153143108A CHALLENGER APPROACHES
>>153150780>DickmanWhat's in a name?
>>153150740You mean the best sellout clout-chaser?
>>153150806this is pre-time skip tamers12345
>>153150491Cartoons should be banned. They attract nothing but retards and perverts.
>>153150858Stfu, seething faggot
>>153150860Fuck off virgin jack off. Just look at what cartoons and anime do to retards like you.
>>153150870Ok, moralfag retard
>>153150874OK don't insult your fellow Christian posters like this guy>>153147170
>>153144204Thad deserved it for hanging out with the Talking Simpsons guys
>>153150893Kys, faggot
>>153151099Go to Canada to get yourself euthanized
>>153151106You should
>>153150870Won't be the first, anyone remember Randy Stair?
>>153151099>>153151110Of course you would feel offended retard, since I insult all your favorite cartoon wives and hentai characters and your even more retarded cartoonist>>153143072
>>153151116That man is an icon
>>153151127Cry me a river, faggot
>>153151135Like you do over your pwecious cartoons? They ain't real junior so quit crying with loaves of bread under your arms.
>>153151151Stop being an annoying faggot
>>153150726But he is right. Now Scott Pilgrim Takes Off, that show is the best. Didn't deserve the negativity.
>>153151099>>153151110Don't piss this guy off he's likely another psycho obsessed with underage cartoon characters and will shoot anyone that will ship them
>>153151116Don't say that, he is a hero
>>153150730>>153150750Scott Pilgrim ruined an entire generation period
>>153151116We also have Timbox who is obsessed with the underage girls from Dexter's Laboratory
>>153151157Contrarian
>>153151165You are scared, faggot
>>153151190That show was bait and switch
>>153151196Scared of your stupid cartoons so I ripped them apart what you gonna do about it?
>>153151203You are too much of a limp wrist to do anything.
>>153150858This guy was hilarious I posted some pics of Hazel and Dev getting flustered and he got all hot over it. What a retard!
>>153150328>>153150345What I think of Canada's euthanasia
>>153150858>>153150870Let us now honor this man
Our new hero
>>153150804That's his name?
>>153150780So what did he do?
>>153151287How old was the person he did?
>>15315131031
>>153151116>>153151188People like these are proof that we never should have shut down the asylums. Thanks Reagan you senile coot.
>>153150804He looks more like a breast man>>153150780
>>153149969John k doesnt control media censorship
>>153150858>>153150860
>>153151377He's an ass man
>>153151387Just like can't control his ADD
>>153151398He's Billy Gunn?
>>153151413What kind of a wrestler calls himself ass?
>>153151424The best kind of wrestler
>>153143072Canada sucks
>>153143072>>153150328>>153150345
>>153151400He made the choice. Be an amazing animator with a solid work ethic and influence a generation of art or rape some kid because grown women are smart enough to fight back.
>>153151398Could be worse he could be a foot man
>>153151461Both are disgusting smell related fetish.
>>153151116Now stop making us remember
>>153150870Anyone wanna bet this guy obsessed with a little black female character will one day pull a Randy Stair?
The Canada hatred here
>>153151469Faggot
>>153151510They deserve it for unleashing wokeness
>>153150479He is right you know.
>>153150421>talented>hard worker>furryhow can one man be so based
>>153151929All wrong
>>153150780>>153150804
All the homophobia in this thread
Oh man all the Canada hate in this thread makes feel all warm inside. Get fucked Canada.>>153151963Go fuck yourself
>>153151938>Billion dollar how much money have you made off making people happy?
>>153151981Ok, retard
>>153146175>>153146964It’s clear that even outside of the weird grooming shit he was a terrible person to work with, the more you read his blogs the more you realize he’s a genius in some ways but an annoying mega sperg in others. He was right to call out shit like Family Guy for having horrendous animation and popularizing that shitty type of animation within the wider industry, but a lot of his other opinions just seem to boil down to “modern cartoons bad because they’re not this specific cartoon I liked as a kid” even while certain shows he criticized did a bunch of the stuff the older cartoons he praised did.Even his “calarts style” stuff. People have kinda taken than to just apply to beanmouth styles but if you go back and read his blog posts about it it seems like even he doesn’t really know what the calarts style means, it’s just generally things that were popularized by Disney although he’s mega selective about what those things are. And on top of that he was fired for a reason. Even the old school cartoonists he idolized were able to meet deadlines and get work finished without absurd levels of micro management. Dude is clearly very autistic and also has a bunch of weird childhood trauma that manifests itself in his work.
>>153150491How is the beanmouth style any different from the billions of exact lookalike Hanna barbera cartoons from the 60s/70s?
>>153152021Nothing you said is true.>>153152044Early Hanna Barbera was made by Ex-MGM people who knew what they were doing, the same can not be said by the late 1960s and 1970s Hanna Barbera.
>>153152285>Nothing you said is true.Wrong, stop sucking his dick
>>153150357Both have alot less money then Rumiko Takahashi.
>>153152299No, right.
>>153143762Partly because people have been going out of their way to devalue his legacy despite his impact cause they don't like his personality.
>>153152308Nope
>>153143762John K's a sperg himself. Birds of a feather.>>153152318He doesn't like other people's personalities neither so the feeling is mutual.
>>153152318He only had one good show and that's it. A one trick pony that couldn't even make more shows from his own studio.
>>153152318That's not a good reason
>>153152318>>153152459That isn't the reason you stubborn ass. He has a bad work ethic, he only made one successful show and he never even bothered to do more even though he brags about it. Put up or shut up. Spumco should have a big library but his autism prevents it.
>>153152394Yep.
>>153143762>>153152459He's a Canadian that's why. So Canada get fucked.
>>153152533I hate Americans and Chinese too
>>153143072Danny Antonucci is better. Ironically both are Canadian.
>>153152575Yeah they can get fucked too
>>153152585Kazuhide Tomonaga is better then both of them.
>>153150780>>153150858>>153150870>>153151116What is it with cartoons that attract all these psychotic retards and fags? Are cartoon fandoms just a collective of undersexed losers?
>>153152610Nobody cares, weebshitter
>>153152614It gets deeper, a lot of those creators of woke DEI cartoons are obsessed with prom and unstable relationships, they are most likely losers that had no dates especially the lesbians that missed prom.
>>153152632Yes, they do.
>>153152614Why are you such an annoying faggot?
>>153152633Nice fanfic
>>153152633An example of the sexual frustration of woke cartoonists
>>153152661>Adults still obsessing over promVery telling
>>153152649Cool it with the antisemitism
>>153152685No Israel can get fucked too
>>153152702>I. S. R. A. E. L.
>>153150507Ralph Bakshi and John K. are literally friends bro. Do you seriously not know that some of John K.'s first notable work was on the 87 Mighty Mouse with Bakshi? Actually try to learn about the 2 people you're referencing before you say something.
>>153152739Drawn Together sucks. Their creators' work ethic is as bad as John K's. He'd fit right in with these dead fucks.
>>153143072Majority of John's amazing career was only made possible by everyone else doing the work that he was too much of a retarded pedo jackass to do himself. We saw what his work looks like when he's accountable to a good team and we saw what his work looks like when he's completely in charge and allowed to do whatever he wants and it's not even funny how much of a fucking hack loser he actually is.>BUT HIS BLOGEvery good bit of real advice you could sift out of his blog was copied from the books of the better cartoonists, but presented as if he'd come up with it, even as he was telling people to buy those books.
The grooming accusation against John is just dumb, everyone knows furries go onto children’s cartoons so the kids will grow up to be furries too and draw porn for the community. That’s the standard. >>153152766You sound like your friends are communist homosexuals
>>153146175>He makes one great show in the 90sHe didn't even make it. Bob Camp, Lynne Naylor, Jim Smith, and Bill Wray are more responsible for Ren and Stimpy being the hit it was than John K.
>>153152779No one cares what you think, Guy.
>>153152747So? He can't make John look good, he will only be dead weight to him.>>153152766>Every good bit of real advice you could sift out of his blog was copied from the books of the better cartoonists, but presented as if he'd come up with it, even as he was telling people to buy those books.Which means he can't do things on his own. Fucking hack.
>>153152823>Which means he can't do things on his own. Fucking hack.You'd think if he had such amazing and genius insights about animation, he'd be able to pitch and make better cartoons on his own, instead of that grotesque display of incompetence that was Cans Without Labels or the Ripping Friends or the Simpsons Couch Gag.Simply put: If he's so fucking amazing and knows so much, why does everything he's made on his own, or with majority control over the production, fucking suck?
>>153152779Another reason cartoons should be banned. Fuck this enablers of degeneracy and fuck this John K for encouraging it. Animation should get fucked.
>>153152897Kys, subhuman
>>153152811Typical furry response, they don’t care about what anybody thinks because they enjoy being brainless like animals.It’s funny how thinking about John’s lessons let me draw creatures better.>>153152793Communist.>>153152823Funny thing is that you people can’t learn how to draw anywhere near his level with your cope nonsense.
>>153152903Fucking bot
>>153152910No, I’ simply calling a spade a spade
>>153152906You and every cartoonist should get the rope for creating perverted shit and encouraging psychos as these>>153151116
>>153152928Keep seething
>>153152922Wow racist as well another reason for cartoonists to get fucked
>>153152954But being racist is based
>>153152954Fuck off, megafaggot
>>153152965Yes especially towards Canadians>>153151241
>>153152893He never he even made more with his own studio
>>153152906This looks like shit
>>153152893One trick pony
>>153152764The Drawn Together crew sucks. They are as bitter as John K.
>>153152318>>153152509Also he had opportunities to get better. Even before Ren and Stimpy he had a chance to work on this>>153150395but he blew it. So the fame Chris Columbus has could have been his own he was always this difficult.
>>153152318It is fitting because John K wasted his prime years going out of his way to devalue, and slander popular names like Spielberg and the creators of The Simpsons and even South Park. But he failed miserably. While they continue to thrive he gets more obscured, irrelevant and forgotten.
>>153152318>>153153133What goes around comes around what others are doing to him is what John did to others many years ago, like his colleagues who went to Games, Steven Spielberg, Seth Macfarlane, Trey and Matt. So John is getting what he deserves.
>>153153133Ruegger, not Spielberg.
It's genuinely so fucking grim how predictable threads here are.
>>153152906>retarded, no talent faggot can only cry about commiesConsider ending it all, for real. You have never improved in the years I've seen you pretend to be a real cartoonist and a student of animation.
>>153153181No it's hilarious!
>>153152318What legacy? Genuinely, what do you think he accomplished?
>>153153180Also Spielberg, he once said he always hated how he puts his name in almost everything.
>>153153181Just like the last Scott Pilgrim threads
>>153153181I for one stopped giving a shit about John K threads years ago. I just come here to fan the flames and see how mad I can make the autists.Stimpy is funnier than Ren.
>>153143072he is a very talented artist and animator, but he is also kind of one-note and doesn't work well with others; both of which are problems for people who want to work in an industry that necessitates working with other people and being willing to try different stuff if people don't like your pitch.john k spent a quarter of a century trying to make george liquor a household name even after it was clear that nobody was really that into it. dude should have moved the fuck on and tried something else.and yeah, he is also a sex pest. that didn't help him any.
>>153153193post your art for comparison or you're full of shit
>>153153610>oh yeah! well post your art! you're not allowed to insult my art unless you're an artist!>oh yeah! well post your writing! you're not allowed to insult my writing unless you're a writer!>oh yeah! well post your research! you're not allowed to insult my research unless you're a researcher!NTA but this is always a desperately shitty argument
>>153153650if that anon thinks that guy has no talent he knows nothing about art and needs to learn by creating himself before he has a more informed opinion
>>153153692His drawings are shit, simple as
>>153153193Faggot you communists have lost hella hard, you haven’t moved on from the 10s if you think you make people cry.And you assume the point of my artwork is to bring pleasure to you. I want to bring pain to you. Because someone who rejects goodness deserves it. I do not want your opinion to improve. Your opinion is artificial and does not resemble the opinion of a normal person or a Christian whatsoever.Finally you’re going into a fit over a quick doodle from a homeless person, none of you faggots can get out a word about my actual projects.>>153153133People make fun of how awful the Simpsons got constantly. It wouldn’t have gotten that bad if John’s criticism wasn’t accurate.>>153153008You’re a shit person and you’re reporting on what’s inside your eyes as Jesus said.
>>153153650If you’re not an artist you don’t understand shit beyond consumption, and again I don’t want to participate in manufacturing slop that tingles your eyes and tongue. I could easily draw whatever stupid degeneracy you like and your opinion would do a 180 and you’d start gooning about corrupting me. That’s a pathetic way for a human soul to work.
>>153153610How do I know you or any other random anon won't steal my work like all the other tracers and Sonic fags that trace over people's works and claim it as their own?
>>153153796be brave like every other anon who posts art here
>>153153731Quit invoking religion into your posts. It is endearing no one. Especially since John K is an atheist himself.
>>153153731People also state The Simpsons influence to modern pop culture more than Ren and Stimpy ever will
>>153153830No dude his teachings directly refute your vile words: “ you hypocrite, first remove the plank from your own eye so you can see clearly to remove the speck from your brother‘s eye”Jesus should get credit for solid art advice and if people followed it, the communities would be a lot less stupid
>>153153731>>153153841There are more Steamed Hams memes than there are Ren and Stimpy memes. It has a lasting legacy.
>>153152318I hate that people are doing this too and wish it would stop, though "cause they don't like his personality" is selling short the reasons why they don't like him. On /co/ specifically, Spumco threads are also a mess because people are baiting guy. That might be a bigger factor than anything here.
>>153153847Your user name is Lovecraft, but that dude is an atheist too. You don't know your own heroes we'll do you? As for your jesus stuff, many artists of different faiths prospered without him, and they never became degenerate like the Christian West did. You words hold no water.
>>153153905That’s funny because I’m baiting anybody here to discuss my projects like Mechanica, to say a single word about them whatsoever. The longer you can’t, the more embarrassing it is, and the more it proves that you’re all living a lie at the end of a bunch of really fucking stupid decisions like choosing to ban criticism from the industry.
>>153153905No it is because he is a fucking Canadian and I hates Canadians
>>153153926Worse his name is Lovecraft's Cat which in real life, HP Lovecraft named his cat the N word. This guy could be a white supremacist. Especially with his Jesus quotes.
>>153153926Christian isn’t a tribal identity, it is universal and the truth John expounded is part of that universal truth.
>>153153962So?
>>153153847Most Christians are perverts so you should clean your show first before cleaning others' you cartoon degenerate
>>153153982Kys
>>153153977It means WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I TAKE THE WORDS OF SOMEONE THAT COULD BE A RACIST NAZI FUCK?
>>153153892For a show that lasted for a fraction of even the good seasons of The Simpsons, it gets a solid amount of reaction images at least. Even the lesser Adult Party Cartoon has some presence that way (including a banner ad here). Nothing is going to beat the Simpsons in terms of pop culture referencing though, and SpongeBob is the king of cartoon reaction images.
>>153153975It isn't universal truth John is a fucking sperg and retard. He has no control of his own words must lest his actions.
>>153153994You are a faggot
>>153143072He touched everyone in every sort of way.
>>153153989How "Christian" of you to suggest that
>>153154025He touched himself
>>153154027Cope
>>153154001There is also Family Guy reactions
>>153154059He sucks too
>>153154076You suck
>>153153975
>>153154015Projection>>153153982Also seems like projection, most John haters are perverts with pretensions
>>153154100If I suck you blow. Now start blowing fag.
>hating on canadiansI refuse to, they've given us so much.
>>153154144That’s what you do and are
>>153154157They gave us the activism shit including migrants. And woke gay shit like the Americans. Fuck em.
>>153154162Faggot
>>153154157And they now want to destroy itself for activism.
>>153154206Like most Canadians
once you see enough schizos online you really see just how much being schizophrenic lobotomizes you as a person all of them type exactly the same alot of them are obsessed with christianity but only on a surface level to try and take any sort of moral stance on othersand their art degrades into incomprehensible scribbles
>>153153975>>153154206
>>153154264Wow this is an awful take. Sounds Canadian. Fuck them. And fuck immigrants too.
>>153154264>you should practice what you preach>"nooooo you don't preach what i preach so i can still be a hypocrite!"
>>153154252This is John K's audience and type of people. He belongs to these schizos and they deserve him.
>>153154287That's definitely Canadian
>>153154312https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfBLfHV8sdQ
All of this arguing without saying who the actual best cartoonist is.
>>153154252More proof it was a mistake to close asylums
>>153154252“Incomprehensible” buddy you simply lack the ability to perceive thenOnly capable of processing the characters you grew up with in new slop like a good consumer >>153154299His audience includes every popular ongoing animator who all take large inspiration from him, but don’t talk about it
>>153153962Unrelated, but Lovecraft himself was very anti-Christian
>>153154322Alright /co/ - Chuck Jones or Bob Clampett? Choose now.
>>153154449Which is hilarious that he keeps invoking Christianity
>>153153989>>153154016>>153154059>>153154100>>153154206I made all these posts and btw I'm trans
>>153154495You mean non binary
>>153154120Projection nothing, it's on record and he even admits ithttp://redirect.viglink.com/?key=71fe2139a887ad501313cd8cce3053c5&subId=3411247&u=https%3A//www.cartoonbrew.com/artist-rights/ren-stimpy-creator-john-kricfalusis-apology-triggers-backlash-from-victims-158358.html
>>153153929The industry should be banned as it creates perverts and psychos
>>153154633Fuck off
>>153154647Go ahead try with the rest of your transexual friends>>153154495>>153154538
>>153152044Aside from the obvious being that the Hanna Barbera style had actual talent, the similar looking designs came about as a way to save costs in the early tv market. The budgets were way lower which necessitated the reusing of cells ergo similar looking characters. There was also the lack of movement thus the need for a defined "Silhouette" that stands out despite the lack of said movement.Beanmouth had none of these limitations. It's just what you get from shoving lazy, untalented people into the animation workforce. It takes ZERO skill to draw a bean mouth with a pudgy undefined body. The characters themselves aren't even posed dynamically.Beanmouth is the style of diversity hires.
Been awhile but I am back and glad to see the Canada hate still goes on. Fuck those bacon fuckers.
>>153154736Beanmouth can go get fucked
>>153154740We gotta get the Canadian hate to 500!
>>153154719Ok, troon
>>153154633Canada should be banned>>153154647Yes Canada should fuck off>>153154773Let's keep it going
>>153154479The Lord makes nonbelievers blind and you can’t see things as I can.>>153154322based
>>153153692Guy is a talentless faggot. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>153155756By “talent” you mean “trans furry homo dick telling you the most socially acceptable way to draw and behave”I have my own unique style your gimp preprogrammed mouth can't speak on.
>>153152021>a genius in some ways but an annoying mega sperg in othersYes a cartoonist
>>153156063You are the sperg
>>153155970You style sucks shit and no one likes it, retard.
>>153143762He made a cartoon that actually is eager to be a "cartoon." It's either that or SpongeBob.Everybody replying to this and whining watch the absolute bottom of the barrel fucking slop, they won't even tell you what they watch because it's so embarrassing.Seriously, notice how nobody in these John K threads want to say what they are currently obsessed with animation-wise? Interesting, maybe because it has a 90% chance of being a therapy cartoon.
>>153156073Yeah of course
>>153156157I've been watching old 90's cartoons. Been working my way through Taz-mania....Which still doesn't have a decent torrent rip anywhere despite being free on Tubi.This is Taz's mom in the episode where they do a Casablanca paraody.
>>153156107There you go consulting the faggot consensus instead of what YOU like and what YOU come up with (which is probably nothing).You also regress back to a middle school mentality of shouting insults because that's when your natural identity stalled out. John emphasizes natural identity so he's called a pedophile by you retarded perverts.Your gimp mouth cannot open and say what my art is.
>>153156157This is such weak shit. As if John K was the only man to ever make a "real" cartoon.
>>153156226Why should I dance for you when all I have to do is accurately observe how pitiful you are and you start sputtering and tantruming on command? You respond to everything with screaming about commies and trannies and furries and think you're proving what a cool, interesting guy you are? Lmao fuck off and kill yourself already.
>>153156233He's not. Want to point me to the cartoons in the last 20 years that are anything like Ren & Stimpy and SpongeBob though?
>>153156261Like Spongebob or R&S in what way? Hyper realistic close up gags?
>>153156157Cope
>>153156277Funny faces, overly animated movements, short, repeating soundtracks that exist solely to complement the animation. Cartoons that actually have good storyboarders.
>>153156247>danceNo you stupid faggot my natural identity is my whole identity. It’s not something I only indulge in for porn and lgbtq subcultures like acting like a mewling femboy.For THE GAYS YOU LIVE WITH they get off on seeing you stunted like a child and acting like it, “dancing” for them. You project all that on me and John. I want to hear from someone who can form an actual opinion, not someone who self-lobotomized for sexual pleasure and an easy career. > You respond to everything with screamingYour standards of conduct are homosexual-minted, normal men have negative emotions. Especially when a degenerate pretends he's more than that.>>153156277Naturalistic expressive animation, etc, is what I would point out as an actual fan.
>>153156371And there he goes! Dance monkey dance!You're so fucking predictable.
>>153156336Good character acting through animation too I'd say. Like not just funny faces by themselves (that's plenty popular still), but expressing themselves through how they move and pose. A lot of John K's stuff is also inspired by classic Hollywood acting (Kirk Douglas references are common), so he was good at depicting similar emotional acting in his cartoons.Example where he talks about something relatedhttps://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2006/03/specific-acting-in-looney-tunes-duck.html
>>153156410You're just a little uke blown-out bitchboy resentful at the challenges of being a real human like being forced to improve yourself to participate. You know how easily I can hold that position of authority - and have - and delude yourself being a faggot means you have control.But if you start harassing me ill immediately send emails to the industry to rewire your collectivist psychology. Hurts to realize the truth, huh? Scurry away to your porn.
>>153156655>But if you start harassing me ill immediately send emails to the industry to rewire your collectivist psychologyPlease share an example of one of the emails you send. I'd like to see what's in them and if it'll be effective at rewiring their psychology.
>>153156681Sure. They keep getting better.
>>153150858>>153150870I can’t believe she of all characters caused someone to develop severe schizophrenia
>>153156698Thanks
>>153156655Retard boy can't even improve his own art and projects on everyone else for the millionth time.
>>153150858>Dennis Falk stalks Tress MacNeille (Babs’ original VA)>poopdickschizo stalks Ashleigh Crystal Harrison (Babs’ Looniversity VA)Shit has gone full circle
>>153156766I'm sorry I know your Discord pederasts get very excited by how your inner mind works by middle school logic, but you're doing the projecting and saying it first doesn’t cancel it out.You can’t say what my art is, you can’t show that you’ve seen it, you can't post an example of it, YOU CAN’T FORM OPINIONS AND ATTACK ME FOR EXPECTING YOU TO, you are a gimp who only knows how to be nasty to normal people. Now I shall be sending some emails.
>>153156839https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crgHPztPVzcFalk was framed! He wasn't the guy.
>>153156766Are you talking about Lovecraft’s cat or John K?
>>153150421Truly Seth McFarland is the aspirational ideal of a cartoonist.He created two major animated comedies, made a bunch of money, and now gets to pretend he’s Frank Sinatra, and go play Star Trek with his friends.
>>153156900
All these years of Guy being a fucking loser. Do you ever stop to think about how he's been sharing his hideous art, sperg rants, and diddling his nieces for years? His next response will be another screencap of some schizo rant he emailed to someone in the industry that proves he has connections (but can't hold them because they are spiritually opposed to his righteous nasty art).
>>153154001this
>>153150361no they should euthanize your petty ass
>>153157442is there any solid proof that guy raped his sister?i dont doubt he would do that but having something solid would be nice
>>153157656they have no proof
>>153157442Boil 1. You got owned hard faggot and your faggot behavior helped me unravel lgbtq psychology completely 2. You're projecting again, all you have is pretending you have a great job and trying to groom kids while your methods become more ineffectual>>153157656It’s a metaphor. They think being creative requires being a pervert but they don’t know what real creativity is. He also wants to groom boys to go trans and claims Im “raping” them into normal boys instead.>>153157164Equating me with a legendary cartoonist who still guides the production of shows like Hazbin Hotel and my mentor is the greatest compliment. You can give me buddy. You’re just trying to give it in the nastiest way you can.
C'mon cowards, quit repeating your six-year-old autistic bullshit and come at me like a man.With actual sentient human beings my projects are such a big deal that people are losing respect for my former best friend who helped make homestuck and Undertale that she refused to support me in what I was working on because it was too manly for homos and manchildren. You’re living your lives in a sandbox of irrelevance until you people can grow up to actually speak of what John Kricfalusi taught me to do.
>>153156839It had to be CaptainChipmunk bro
>>153157083what a legend
>>153152318>going out of their waykek.Not that hard at all.
>>153158356Lmao. The animation community puts more effort into giving John less credit than he deserves then they put into learning how to draw (at least for industry jobs)It’s easy for you because there are thousands of other people helping you.
>>153143072Not even top 5. Maybe not even top 10.
>>153158193If you don't shape up, I'm gonna send so many autistic emails to my local comptroller!
>>153158193SUCK MY DICK YOU WHORE FUCK YOU DICKHEAD
He made a Looney Tunes knock-off people only liked because it looked groundbreaking next to those 80s toy commercial cartoons.
>>153159087No kiddin’?
>>153154001>Even the lesser Adult Party CartoonSo why all the hate? It's NOT the worst thing ever.>Beautiful backgrounds and animation>Cute and sexy girls>Great facial expressions>Memorable scenes>That fat mexican guy was funny>Ren Seeks Help was dark and deep>Dr. Mr. Horse>Man's Best Friend finally aired>Uncut version of Big House Blues>Ralph Bakshi>Life Sucks could've been a classic
It's that time, fuck Canada and their stupid retarded Canadians and fuck their activism and migrants. We'll make it to the limit. >>153158193Fuck you FAGGOT! Undertake is faggy bullshit which makes you a bigger fag and fuck that daddy issues Canadian John K, his dad was right to call him out that faggy shit if his, which he still cries to this day, God hates fags so he hates fags like John K and fuck Undertale and that weeb shit! Get fucked Canada!
>>153159125>>Cute and sexy girlsI don’t want hot women near deformed scrimblos
>>153159125It's not remotely good either.
>>153159136Nice seething
>>153158193>Lovecraft’s catSo your real name is nigger? Good to know very telling.
>>153159087This is stupid and indicative of mental gymnastics wholly unnecessary. Ren & Stimpy aimed for the quality of Looney Tunes on a TV studio system and budget but it was a distinct thing.Ren & Stimpy went on to influence the new Looney Tunes Cartoons. Against all this, all people can do is make very crude comments to attack Ren & Stimpy, which are clearly dishonest and have a lot of effort put in coming up with them. Suggestive of employees.
>>153153977His actual name means nigger that's why
>>153159180Nice going to bed
>>153159228>the new Looney Tunes Cartoonsthat shit was like a worse Cow & Chicken, too much grossout and naked ass jokes
>>153156371Of course only a nigger could be homophobic
>>153159165The girls looked better early on; the way they’re drawn in NBF looks off and I can’t really describe why
>>153159286That shit was disgraceful. I couldn't Imagine what the people who worked on the golden age of looney tunes would think of this.
>>153159228>Suggestive of employees.You DO know that the Rothschilds is paying the R&S fans AND the R&S haters, right? They’re all employees. You are not immune to propaganda.
>>153143108Literally 0 (ZERO) fucking evidence he ever raped anyone, every single accusation was debunked and dropped
>>153159338Meds, now
>>153159286My problem with it was the dialogue was very formulaic-feeling and the gags felt kinda predictable I think they used the excessive violence to try and make up for it, but it doesn’t really work
>>153159345Meds were invented by the world stage to keep the mentally healthy out of power! Are you with me or against me?!
>>153156157Fuck that shit cartoons should be banned for the degeneracy they are and thank God above the animation industry is dying. Faster! Faster! >>153156371Homosexuals exist because of these Devil made cartoons you blasphemer! They are nothing but idols that Jesus hates and why we even have faggots and troons to begin with and fuck Ren and Stimpy for influencing everyone to be gay, to hell with these faggot enabling devil cartoons!
>>153159338Fuck Jews! Fuck the Canadians that enable the Jews!
>>153159374Against you, faggot >>153159376Grow a pair, faggot
>>153159342Still doesn’t excuse him apparently being insanely difficult to work with, I heard a story about how the other Spümcø artists had a part of the wall called “John’s Knees” that they’d kick when they were frustrated, and eventually they kicked a hole into the wall and never bothered fixing it
>>153159376Holy schizo
>>153158390The entire animation industry deserves to go to hell for the faggotry it created. And quit the idol animation works and return to Jesus so to hell these cartoons go!
>>153159387I will admit that despite R&S being a Canadian invention, for the past 2 years I’ve watched it for 6 hours every night at full volume while tapping my forehead with a breadknife and I’ve never been menatlly healthier.
>>153159415You are doing faggotry
Nice going Canada Haters, NOW you invited actual fucking nazis into this thread. I hope you are proud of yourselves you fucking chuds!
>>153159438Faggot
>>153151963Based
>>153159087You forgot to turn off your trip to bump the thread
>>153150432This thread had actual neo nazis now do something about it
>>153159449Right on, kill those faggots, those Jews and those faggot worshipping Jew enabling Canadians. You are doing Jesus work, YEAH!
>>153159307Bob Clampett would’ve probably gotten a kick out of it, Tex Avery tooChuck Jones would fucking HATE it and wish death on Browngardt and everyone else involved
>>153159463That’s a good thing
>>153159492So a man named Lovecraft's cat supports actual nazis. Not surprised.
>>153159509I’m not him
The story of John K is tragic and serves as a cautionary tale against perfectionism and sex with little girls>Sets out to make animation fun again after being stuck in the dark age of toy commercials and writer-driven slop>Strikes gold with Ren & Stimpy, a cartoon so influential that it kickstarts the creator driven era, many cartoons on today can be traced back to Ren & Stimpy.>Constantly missing deadlines, having petty fights with executives and accepting nothing short of perfect causes him to be fired from his own show, the quality slips without his presence and the show is eventually cancelled >Runs into the same problems once again with his second chance, Adult Party Cartoon.>Relegated to bitching on his blog and having the occasional scraps of industry work>During all of this he's having sus relationships with teenage fans that has become an open secret in the industry >Crowdfunds a cartoon and the public starts learning firsthand how terrible he is with deadlines>The final product is so bad that even without any kid diddling allegations his reputation as an animation god is officially tanked among general animation fans And the people who've formed a cult around him only further push people away from the genuinely good advice he does have
>>153150294>>153150470>>153153830Is there any proof that John K is an atheist and anti-religious?
>>153159639There were blog posts from the 2000s that suggested it, even mocking Jesus and the Bible.
>>153159389Get a new material, sperg.
>>153159723It was probably nothing. In the 2000s it was hip to knock religion, so this was probably John's way of trying to be hip with youngsters at the time.
>>153159738He was trying to be Seth Macfarlane?
When Rome was presented to me from an unfavourable angle - the Sunday-School horror of Nero and the persecution of Christians - I could never quite sympathise in the least with the teachers. I felt that one good Roman pagan was worth any six dozen of the cringing scum riff-raff who took up with a fanatical foreign belief, and was frankly sorry that the Syrian superstition was not stamped out. When it came to the repressive measures of Marcus Aurelius and Diocletianus, I was in complete sympathy with the government and had not a shred of use for the Christian herd. To try to get me to identify myself with that herd seemed in my mind ridiculous. At seven I sported the adopted name of L. Valerius Messala and tortured imaginary Christians in the amphitheatres.-HP Lovecraft
>>153159618>a cartoon so influential that it kickstarts the creator driven eraPlease stop spreading this bullshit lie. Bob Camp had more to do with R&S's success than John K.
>>153159749No, I'd say Trey Parker and Matt Stone, they make fun of faiths but neither is atheist. They even candidly mock atheist theories of an expanding universe that it sounds just as silly. I think John was going for something like that. Not atheist, not necessarily agnostic, more jocular.
>>153159639I don't know if John K is actually an atheist or anti-religious but a ren and stimpy episode he directed called Robin hoek had ren and stimpy praying at night before they went to bed.https://youtu.be/gCoK11RymUE?si=1B1KOY-dpdhGCLR3
>>153159760HP Lovecraft was a hack and a nerd that lived and died poor and his followers are as annoying and pretentious as John K's fans. He even blamed immigrants for his misfortunes, and supported the Ku Klux Klan.
>>153159810Cope
>>153153982No they are not.
>>153159774Who hired Bob Camp onto Ren & Stimpy?
>>153159774>Bob Camp had more to do with R&S's success than John KBob camp and crew single-handedly gave Ren and Stimpy a reputation for being demented and depraved instead of fun, as that is just what they collectively were like. You can see their influence in a lot of shitty cartoonsThey are better than those shity cartoons but I just prefer to look at good things. Less-bad things can pollute the brain just as much as more-bad things
>>153160291Fag
>>153150546Did they?
I saw John K at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
I may be too young for Ren & Stimpy, but I watched stuff like Courage and Ed, Edd n Eddy. What makes Dilworth or Antonucci worse than John K? His character designs in general don't seem very compelling or likeable. Is a kid going to want to watch a show about "Wally Man" or "Silly"? They look more like the idea of what cartoons are than anything you'd want to watch.
>>153160566Adults liked Ren and Stimpy so it represents a rare moment when animators still had hope the general public would some day appreciate the medium.
>>153160566Half-Life is a 10/10 design
>>153160566Frankly I think John K should focus on cartoons for girls. His style can be very cute and pedos excel at creating entertainment for girls. They can be even better than women. See Miyazaki, Bleedman and dirty Dan
Good conversation all round. I’d like to add that Katie Rice was and still is hot as fuck
>>153160710She's fat now
>>153160566The Heartaches would've been an amazing cartoon.
>>153160566The heartaches almost could have been a popular girl franchise like the powerpuff girls but Katie rice and Robyn Byrd ruined everything by getting john k canceled.
>>153159618Meanwhile with his arch rival Toshihiko Masuda.>Sets out to make animation fun again after being stuck in the dark age of toy commercials and writer-driven slop.>Gets trained by Hayao Miyazaki himself.>Takes over for Miyazaki once he left Telecom.>Started directing on Inspector Gadget and put the rest of the industry to shame.>Strikes gold with The Adventure of The Gummi Bears, a cartoon so influential that it kickstarts the silver age era of animation and made Dragon Ball have a run from their money, many cartoons on today can be traced back to Gummi Bears.>Constantly met deadlines, got along well with executives and accepting nothing short of perfect causes him to be promoted from his own shows, however the quality slips without his presence as seen when Taiwanese Wang Film, Kennedy Cartoons and Korean studios (Akom, Dong Yang, Ect.) are brought up once he wanted more money and the shows are eventually cancelled because he didn't do every episode, prevented Telecom having it's own Doraemon (they were absorbed back into TMS in 2026 partly because of it).>Became stronger once he got to Warner Bros with Tiny Toon Adventures, Batman:TAS and Animaniacs.>During all of this he's going tow to toe with Hayao Miyazaki and Hideaki Anno on a hourly bases.>Got promoted to full on preproduction on Superman:TAS and TNBA due to budget cuts on Warner Bros' behalf>Flew too close to the sun with Cybersix, Canadian staff hampered Telecom's output on it and got canceled as a result>Tried getting Hamtaro but SMDE deemed Telecom too expensive to use, ended up doing the second half and redoing the opening of Return of The Joker instead (as Dong Yang already did the first half)>Gets laid off after Secret of Cerulean Sand's bombing, became freelance and is lucky to do Lupin III projects as he just gets scraps in terms of freelance work (mostly boards for Naruto/Boruto)>Now of days he mainly leaches off of his brother Junichi's Pokémon money to stay out of the red
>>153160204By that logic, there's a Nickelodeon CEO's dick that you should be slobbering on right now. >>153160291Bob and his crew made the show happen every single John was too busy being an obnoxious faggot to do any real work.
>>153160566I don't know what kind of brain cancer plagues some people, but the truth is that he's genuinely a fucking terrible character designer. Everything he makes is an exaggeration of some Hanna-Barbera shit, crossed with either extreme blandness or extreme grossness, with very little in between. For a guy that gets sucked off as the most important cartoonist to ever live, he couldn't lock down a single design or doodle that's even half as good as one of the dozens of forgotten and one-off looney tunes.
>>153160566>>153161315Some of those appeared in commercials, or they made brief appearances and worked fine in that context. You wouldn't watch a full show starring most of them, obviously.The Heartaches girls did almost have their own show and appeared in commericals.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37c9w20DbSIWally Whimsy appears in this 1999 flash cartoon (John was one of the first guys making flash cartoons, even worked with Macromedia and they incorporated things he suggested apparently). Apparently he was playing with the idea of a Wally Whimsy cartoon, or came up with a pilot idea at least. Don't know if he was ever serious about taking it anywhere.https://johnkpitch.blogspot.com/2009/08/wally-whimsy-pilot-story.htmlhttps://johnkpitch.blogspot.com/2009/08/wally-whimsy.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgJuc9YjAz4And of course there was the He-Hog pilot and all. Half-Life, Mikey Mantid, and Professor Mole were all characters meant to appear in that show. The work fine as minor characters or villains. The problem with this image is that it's always shared as if they were all meant to be potential stars of cartoons themselves. The "Spumco Children's Cartoon Shows" at the bottom right contributes to that perception I guess.
>>153161497Wally
>>153161315Dozens of famous characters are inspired by his designs as well as many others. Youre spewing nastiness at successful people.
>>153161635So are you
>>153161497*Also, keep in mind when watching stuff like that Wally cartoon that it was early Flash from 1999. John was one of the first cartoonists involved with Flash, back when it was more limited. He even helped with the development a bit, giving feedback and suggestions.Some links:https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320259144_Subversive_or_Submissive_User-Produced_Flash_Cartoons_and_Television_Animationhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-aug-20-ca-14792-story.htmlA bit of him talking about it on his blog:https://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2006/03/beautiful-people-9-yeesh-and-spumcos.html>So I spent my own money developing the techniques to make this program work for animation, put the first Internet cartoons up, called Macromedia and showed them what I was doing, worked with their programmers and suggested many improvements for the program. I also called all the magazines and Newspapers and marketed the whole deal myself. I got on the cover of Wired and many other magazines and the news spread like wildfire.>Soon, everyone and his dog started up their own Flash websites and copied what we were doing. Icebox, one of our followers, then saw another cartoon I had started called Weekend Pussy Hunt and paid for part of it. I trained about 40 artists to use Flash with the techniques Annmarie and I developed and now they are all the top Flash people in TV.
>>153161635You sure they aren't inspired by the things he was blatantly immitating you dickriding faggot?
>>153161497>>153161753Legitimately doesn't matter if they were used. They still suck and they clearly didn't work out, did they? Why treat John K like he's "Potential Man™" when he actually did have a career and it fell apart under his tremendous incompetence?
>>153161839Some of them worked just fine where they were used. Look, I'm not saying every idea he had was gold, I'm just trying to help people understand the image in context. The idea that I'm treating him as "potential man" by sharing that information is silly.
>>153161839Honestly, what bothers me about your attitude here is that you seem less interested in the full truth than in needling fans of John K’s cartoons by tearing him down completely.For example - >he actually did have a career and it fell apart under his tremendous incompetence?Technically accurate that he had a career that fell apart due in part to his failure to meet deadlines. But that's not the whole story, is it? You intentionally choose the most negative framing you can, presenting it as if he was totally incompetent at everything.
>this man is disgusting he likes legal aged girl!>meanwhile 80% of the catalog is loli shit and furry shit
>>153162883>>this man is disgusting he likes legal aged girl!The whole reason it was an issue was that it wasn't "legal aged" girls.
>>153160476John K is the bootleg Ralph Bakshi.Prove me wrong.
>>153162906Of course they were legal when he fucked them
>>153161678Don't act like a queer. if I criticize someone, they should be able to answer, not complain that I was critical, while these haters don't care if you can answer their nonsense or not.>>153161815Atheist style resentful reductionist nonsense that will be punished with emails.“Coincidentally people all decided to hunt through John’s entire history of influences right after Ren and Stimpy became a massive success.” no one would come up with this idea before the Internet gave access to so much information. Thousands of artists also obviously learned from his blog.You don't actually believe Im wrong, you’re just looking for an excuse to scream about how much you hate the truth.>>153162906He wasnt accused of actually illegal sex acts, he was mainly accused of grooming.
>>153161146Oh god, HE'S here.
>>153163152>>153163203>He wasnt accused of actually illegal sex acts, he was mainly accused of grooming.Mainly yeah, but I think he did at least some stuff with Robyn when she was 16 in California where age of consent is 18. But you're right that people are mainly focused on the grooming side of it.
>>153163224Dread it, run from it, destiny arrives all the same, and now it's here. Or should I say, he is.Famicom is... inevitable.
>>153163255And by "I think he did" I mean I read he did somewhere, I don't know the real story here so someone else can fill in the details if they want or look it up.
>>153161815>>153163203What sad shits like this miss is that I have NEVER been a part of an animation community aside from /co/, and people disassociate from it for their careers.So I have no reason to associate with people besides John who made a supportive environment for me as a teenager. Everyone else are strangers to me. Either they set “no homophobia or transphobia” rules or they didn’t want to have my high cartooning standards for the time and avoided me. Again, I have no connection with them at all. Just John and some others associated with him and the few who didn't disassociate from /co/And so effectively they're bitching that I won’t support artists who refused to support me.
>>153163309Did you actually get a chance to interact John online? He seemed pretty good about replying to comments. Any good interactions you remember?Sadly, his comments section got nuked. Could maybe find archives of it still, but it's not on the blog anymore.
>>153159489>Chuck Jones would hate anything he didn't work on.Sounds about right.
>>153153217Plus he's been open about how much he hates E.T, We're Back and Indiana Jones as he is the WB cartoons. He's just pissed Spielberg is still remembered unlike him.>>153161497>>153161753Always good to know that John keeps getting involved in industry ruining content, like the hypocrite he is.
>>153163916don't care if flash ruined industry cartoons, we got stuff like homestar and thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrzKT-dFUjE
>>153162883>she was legal when he finally came out about him raping her as a toddler so that makes it OK Yikes
>>153161635>Dozens of unnamed characters>let me not name a few as an example
>>153159818Arrest
>>153159345>thinking about medsngmi, also i don't support big pharma.
>>153152649Because you're an annoying sperg.>>153152660Nice denialism
>>153151279Sure is heheh
Master pieces require an absolute madman with complete creative freedom and slaves that do whatever he wants.
>>153165006Cope, R&S ain’t it
>>153163916>says the person remembering himcan’t make this stuff up>>153164063Is making her give up on things like the CalArts style the rape you’re referring to? And it would make you really upset like an actual rape if it happened to you because it would make you uncool in the industry communities?>>153164075If you can't think of any yourself like the obvious clones you’re either too ignorant or too disingenuous for this conversation
