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Now that the dust has settled, do you think Abel is a loser virgin that gets no pussy or a shy lad who constantly gets harassed by his dad's fangirls in Heaven?
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>>153145217
Abel is hot.
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>>153145217
Abel's the kind of guy who could get all the girls but he's not that interested.
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>>153145230
emily...
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>>153145217
He needs to stop listening to demons.
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>>153145325
>inb4 he's gay
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>>153145217
Seems like he just hangs out with Peter and maybe Emily and the thought of getting laid doesn't cross his mind.
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>>153145230
You're goddamn fucking right he is, bitch
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What is he drawing?
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Lute is grooming him, in all kinds of ways.
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>>153145217
how the fuck do you guys watch this shit, it's terrible
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>>153145217
I think he is a waste of a character who stole Lute's spotlight this season. What was the point of his character? We already had people in heaven sympathetic to hell. Fuck, we have Pentious in heaven now. Why do we need this soft fat blob to further flanderize heaven as being nothing but full of pussies? And worse yet, why did he randomly find a backbone and told Lute to fuck off, and why did Lute actually do it? I dont know how Vivzie did it but she managed to put pretty heavy sexism but since it is behind uwu gay characters and constant swearing its like nobody notices.
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>>153149076
"vivzie is sexist against women" has always been a twitter-brained take
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>>153149097
I dont really see any other explanation for why all the women in her series get sidelined in favour of gay characters. Charlie, the supposed main character of the series, has been a passive observer in both seasons and in both finales she has been saved by male characters. It isnt really a dumb twitter theory, its literally happening on screen.
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abel is being molested right now
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>>153149189
>I dont really see any other explanation for why all the women in her series get sidelined in favour of gay characters
because viv is a fujoshi and likes her gay twinks and they distract her from the female characters. doesn't mean she's sexist, she's just a fujo.
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Abel Just wants to be left alone.
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>>153148938
I want to fuck the characters.
simple as.
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>>153149333
Checked.
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>>153148938
It's badly written but it's also a lot of fun
Also I want to fuck vox
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>>153148938
I want to fuck the radio demon, that’s literally it.
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>>153147849
Vox pregnant with twins
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>>153149189
>>153149262
My friend finally watched the show after hearing me sperg out about it and after finishing season 1 the first thing she said was
>Okay so why is literally everyone in hell gay? It’s like the rule rather than the exception, does that get explained later on?

kek
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Why are all of Sera’s songs kino
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>>153149809
Because they're sang by Viv's best-written female character
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>>153149824
Fun fact, the speaker of God is voiced by Anastasia’s voice actress!
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>>153149333
I won’t let him!
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>>153145217
My parents never took me to church, so I’m fascinated to learn that Abel never had any children. I would think that out of the first batch of humans, they all would have bred.
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>>153148938
Watching this show made me finally understand why Xykon enjoys terrible coffee. This show makes me furious and disgusted, but that hatred puts everything else wrong with the world in perspective and helps me enjoy what I like more. And besides, at least I can enjoy the suffering of the characters because of Vivzie's fujo tendencies.
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>>153149262
She can be a fujoshi and sexist at the same time; one does not exclude the other.
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>>153151173
>so I’m fascinated to learn that Abel never had any children.
Because he died before he could do it; his brother killed him.
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>>153151352
Yeah but he was still old enough to be doing stuff like working a full time job and performing animal sacrifices. I’d think he could knock up a chick before then.
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>>153149097
I guess /co/ suddenly cares about sexism.
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>>153151352
Wasn't he like 120+ years old?
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>>153151282
So true, the writing in season 2 was so bad it actually lowered my overall standards for fiction. I just mourn what this show could have been if Viv wasn't so hellbent on considering herself a writer. RIP to the potential heartfelt musical dramedy about a ragtag bunch of assholes seeking redemption
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>>153151421
I used to read novels regularly and still dip into my recs to see what's new and happening, so honestly I was in a pessimistic mood even before I saw the Hazbin pilot. I hated it on sight, but THEN I saw the character bio leaks on /co/ and it being SOMEHOW EVEN WORSE than what I expected entranced me in the worst way possible, like a Tommy Wiseau movie.

It really is fucking funny that the actual hotel is totally irrelevant except as an excuse to introduce the 1 token plot advancement sinner every season. And that we went backwards in terms of escalation from gay and lame SMT (S1) to a shitty newsman on a power trip (S2)
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>>153145230
No
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>>153145217

This show is highly satanic because it has DEMONS
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>>153149554
NOW DRAW HIM GIVING BIRTH.
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>>153151421
This is hilarious to me
I don't generally like vivzie's work but I thought A24 had done a good job smoothing out the kinks for season 1 and found season 2 vastly superior in basically every way.

The people I see cry about the writing in season 2 are all big helluva fans and season 1 fans and so far no one has given me a straight answer: what don't you like about season 2?

From where I'm sitting it seems like people are mad that it wasn't gay and twink-y enough?
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>>153152061
I fucking hate the show so my views are not necessarily representative of the fandom, but when I think of some off the cuff criticisms about S2 it really just boils down to:

It was not only gay and twink-y, but it was also extremely lame, and demanded you to turn your brain off more than a Bayformers movie.

>Heaven's reaction to a fucking Exorcist being stabbed to death was bizarrely muted so the plot could happen, no I do not care the literal Speaker of God interceded, she interceded by telling Sera to search her feelings even though by all indications ADAM was the one to somehow convince her to do them
>Vox explaining his plans to his compatriots with little crayon drawings is extremely cringe, no I don't care this is a funni show, we are at the point where Father from KND looks more respectable as a villain
>The whole idea of VoxTech being prominent in S2 and not S1 is bizarre
>Charlie being such an inept and wilfully incompetent protagonist she not only alienates her allies, not only keeps missing the spot check on how bad Angel Dust's situation is but the fucking finale song belongs to Emily and not her
>Baxter being more of a plot device than a character, especially as the followup to Pentious
>Several characters, especially Carmilla, Charlie/Vaggia and Angel Dust/Husk, essentially retreading bad decision-based character arcs they had in S1
>Weird pacing to contrive 2 characters to be in the same scene, like Pentious just happening to stumble on where Sera goes to have her panic attack
>Vaggie being too stupid to open a panel in the finale so Carmilla could be plot relevant
>Several newly introduced plot points, like Lucifer being unable to harm sinners and exterminations only happening once a year for 7 years, raising more questions than they answer

The weird thing is I actually think S2 is legtimately more polished than S1, especially in terms of fight scene and song quality. I fucking hated both seasons though.
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Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Emi0wvEG8E&list=RD_Emi0wvEG8E&start_radio=1
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>>153152159
>Heaven's reaction
Was initially full on war before Pentious freaked them all out. Sera literally sang a whole fuckin' song about it.
>He draw bad!
... seriously?
>Vox being the S2 antagonist
Why doesn't it fit to you? Seems like a natural progression of events.
>Charlie is inept
Yes? That's not bad writing, it sounds like you just don't like the character
>Retreading arcs
Reinforcing them, they didn't wrap up with a bow in season 1, these are basic character flaws.
>Contrivances
Brother it's a musical you're gonna have to let a hundred small contrivances go.
>Setting up more plot info bad
Okay?

Thanks for the post but you said yourself you just don't like the show at all so it doesn't really help me here.
I want to know why the fujos and disney adults didn't like it
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>>153152214
>Was initially full on war
Not really? If anything the angels all seemed confused until Speaker stepped in. Where's the angels that cast down Lucifer?
>seriously?
Uh, yes seriously. The crayons are fine for Charlie because she's canonically retarded, they are not fine for Vox because he is (theoretically) supposed to be competent enough to run a large corporation with a himbo and Velvette as his main colleagues
>Why
Because he should've been the S1 antagonist.
>you just don't like the character
That's true.
>basic character flaws
While true, it's annoying to see the show not do more with the characters and relationships outside of whoever they squabbled up with last season; Vaggie's connection with Carmilla feels particularly forced
>Brother it's a musical
Let me put it this way: It's contrived even compared to the Phantom of the Opera, even to the Broadway version of Wicked. It's retarded even by musical standards
>Setting up more plot info bad
No, setting up stupid plot info bad.
>I want to know why the fujos and disney adults didn't like it
And I wish you well with your fact-finding, I was just here to clear up my gripes.
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>>153152159
I fucking hate the show but I keep watching every single new release anyways.
Hazbin hatedom in a nutshell
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>>153152420
Real. Even when strictly yarr-harring the damn thing I feel my time's wasted, but the seethe it inspires is invigorating.
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Abel does have an army of hot psycho killer angels at his disposal, but he's saving himself for another angel.
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>>153152437
Technically Emily is probably more powerful than all the Exorcists combined, it's just that like Charlie she's too nice to say-resist a mere Overlord manhandling her most of the time.

Even though otherwise, Emily is literally just Heaven's more competent Charlie. Somehow. The bar is really low and the difference is not that far considering the gift basket fiasco, but at least she managed to cheer up Pentious while Charlie has just kind of been accidentally bringing more stress into Angel Dust's life constantly.
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>>153151382
>I’d think he could knock up a chick before then.
And neglecting animals? Anon, please.
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>>153151389
Nah, we just like to point out irony and hypocrisy.
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>>153152061
>and so far no one has given me a straight answer: what don't you like about season 2?
Okay, I see you're lying. Everyone has been very clear about what they don't like about the second season.
Are you lying or are you refusing to listen to criticism?
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>>153152437
No she's busy cucking some australoid bitch
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>>153145217
Why the hell is he blonde? Does Viv understand how hard it is for non Ashkenazi jews to mutate blonde hair?
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>>153152552
Hey look
You didn't give a straight answer
Neat!
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>>153152181
Wow thats excellent song, you clearly worked very hard on it. I liked and subscribed. Keep posting more
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>>153152501
>Abel was the world’s first sheepfucker

Well at least he didn’t really die a virgin.
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>>153151420
Where did you get that idea?
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>>153152846
Or die twice a virgin like Pentious, lmao
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>>153149262
You need to grasp this board is brimming with AMAB women, who do not grasp AFAB woman fujoshi culture and only watch HH because they thought it was about Yuri.
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>>153145217
>the dust has settled
nah, it's still pretty up in the air whether Angel and Dusk will be together
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>>153149097
"Besides, women ain't funny"
-Written by Vivienne Medrano

>>153149189
>Charlie, the supposed main character of the series, has been a passive observer in both seasons
that's just not true.
she actively fucked everything up for everyone involved in S2!
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>>153148938
Because theres literally nothing else?
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>>153149824
>best-written female character
>genociding people is le bad?
Carmilla would be the only half-decently written character
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>>153152159
>Father from KND looks more respectable as a villain
Father is a respectable villain tho.
maybe if you picked count spankula i could have agreed with the comparison
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>>153153285
Anon the culmination of his character arc is bitching out in front of Grandfather
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>>153152514
Where's the hypocrisy?
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>>153153554
Honey this whole thread name is hypocrisy

How many excuses do you need to wanna fuck someone?
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>>153145217
He's in the middle of a coming of age plotline. If he is a loser virgin, he's not gonna stay that way for long.
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Abel is packing serious heat under that robe but he probably wants a real girlfriend and not some vapid angel/winner sluts that just want him for his massive dick and status.
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>>153153655
Take a shower.
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>>153152437
Trvthe
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For me it's Vox. Just want to hug him, he's so cute.
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>>153155833
He's a loser; I hope he dies knowing that his existence was a mistake
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>>153155833
Best boy
>>153155898
He's a loser but he's my loser
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>>153153266
>>genociding people is le bad?
Says who?
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>>153152437
And that angel's name? Lute
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>>153155833
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>>153145217
Not knowing anything about this show, I didn't realize those were knees, I just thought they were really big tits.
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My husband is so cute. I want to worship his body every chance I get
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>>153145217
Abel is stuck dealing with Lute's sexual frustrations and I'm worried he won't survive.
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>I need to finish watching Season one so I can finally watch Season two.
>All those songs.
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>>153156286
quite literally the voice of god
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>>153156947
She never flat out condemned it.
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What does Abel smell like?
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>>153156798
Chubby chasers are weird.

Anyway I wanna mating press that femanon.
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>>153157259
Adam..
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>>153157290
Faggot.
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>>153145230
Adam...
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>>153155898
I like my men pathetic. + he's cute. He also established and was a CEO of hell's only massive tech company for 70 years. He is competent.
>>153155911
Kiss kiss kiss the TV!
>>153156728
Help him!!
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>>153149189
Also in helluva boss she made Stella a retard and replaced her as a villain with her tumblr sexyman (bird) brother.
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>>153152061
They are mad that heaven was revealed to actually be the good guys. That’s it.
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>>153157326
Adam…
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>>153145230
Me…
>>153151738
>Hes Fat!
And that’s a good thing
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Pentious ruined everything
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>>153148938
Christfags have become insufferable these days. If I have to humor an edgy fujo fat Mexican to get them to lose a little bit more of their sanity then so be it.
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>>153157745
But why are Abel and Adam fat? They're angels in heaven, they should be able to eat whatever crap they want and still maintain a skinny or muscular physique.
Vivziepop heaven truly is a scam.
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Why do Adam and Abel have heavy eyebags? What's keeping them up at night?
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>>153158624
It's the ideal male body type.
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>>153158624
>But why are Abel and Adam fat?
female gaze
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>>153158555
Christians barely think anything of this show, the people who hate it the most are left-wingers
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>>153158726
I've seen plenty of Christians (and LARPers) online claim that the show is demonic propaganda alongside moralfaggy left-wingers. They are both two cheeks of the same ass.
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>>153158624
It's what women want.
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I miss Adam so much bros...
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If Adam is so straight, how come he recognized that Angel Dust was a (gay) porn star?
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>>153158830
He commands an army of rowdy soldier women who watch Angel Dust porn in the barracks.
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>>153158830
He probably saw a billboard of his
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>>153158684
Their balls are constantly being drained by me.
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>>153158741
Yeah, Vox has presence but the fact that he's motivated primarily by homosexuality puts that fat chud Adam ahead of him for me.
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>>153158830
Adam has some undisclosed awareness of Hell culture that isn't really explored enough to know the extent of, but he knows they have "great tunes", which means he probably has at least some passing familiarity with the big trends in Hell, which Angel Dust would count as.
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Emily did this.
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>>153149189
She's industry-brained, there's no misogyny to it but she uses female characters primarily for how they enhance the aesthetic. It's probably part of her obsessive brand control, by making a big production out of her girls but not letting them make any major moves, she harvests all the PR and the ad value without ever risking a backlash.
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>>153151173
That's what happens when you get murdered
>>153151382
>>153151420
Fun fact about this. Some versions of the story explain that the reason Cain went apeshit is because Adam wanted Cain's twin to marry Abel and Abel's twin was to marry Cain. God sealed the deal with rejecting Cain's offering and the rest is history. The tldr is: I killed my brother over a girl I liked.
>>153152061
Heaven /the worldbuilding is really atrocious. Heaven is such an afterthought to Viv and it shows. It's an adult daycare, extremely infantile and the highest angels Sera calls upon when dealing with a demonic threat? 2 weak pacifists. I remember there were anons on this board convinced Cain and Abel didn't exist in this show because of how notably absent they were and I've seen Michael's abscence get the same treatment. Heaven not knowing what gets a soul into it was a massive fucking blow to the very premise of the show. If your premise relies on "we need to get sinners into Heaven" and the answer is "idk", then wtf are we getting invested in? It only makes the angels look like idiots to make the plot happen. I could go on but comparing and contrasting the Hell worldbuilding (which is ass for different reasons) and Heaven and you can see where the team's interest lie.
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>>153158830
Adam is the kind of guy who would swear up and down that femboys aren't gay
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>>153155898
>He's a loser
Duh, that's the source of his cuteness.
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>>153160277
Nah, he is ugly
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>>153160277
I love this dumbass TV so much
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Does anyone have the artwork depicted Michael defeating Lucifer?
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>>153145217
It's beyond me the way Abel was treated in this season considered he was the first new character that got revealed before S2.
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>>153158830
Probably clicked on a video of his once, thinking it was some hot spider lady from the thumbnail only to discover it had a dick.
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What's her problem?
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>>153161346
Mega Fujo
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>>153160669
I want to squeeze him lovingly. Caress his screen bezels too. I wonder what kind of screen cleaner he uses. I have one with a pleasant smell that I'd love him to try. Tv skin care.
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>>153160967
This?
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>>153162055
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>>153162228
This is a hellborn demon, duh
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>>153162228
I'm going to use AI to throw her into her underwear.
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>>153162298
Holy shit shes boney as hell nevermind.
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>>153162411
post it anyway
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>>153161346
I watched a hate video for s2 and the mentally ill woman got unreasonably mad vox didn’t rape alastor after the don’t you forget reprise
Maybe viv should’ve added more gay rape
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>>153162975
I warned ya.
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>>153163079
Vox would never.
Valentino maybe did offscreen though. And filmed it. And it sold very well.
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>>153163223
Vox wouldn't let Val do anything to Alastor, partly because he'd hate the idea of anyone other than himself having sex with Alastor, and also because Vox still wants Al's approval, and even he must realize he'd never get it if Alastor is raped
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>>153163176
Am I supposed to be disgusted by this?
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>>153163079
>the mentally ill woman got unreasonably mad vox didn’t rape alastor
WTF even is the logic behind this? Did she want to masturbate to it?
>>153163293
>Vox still wants Al's approval, and even he must realize he'd never get it if Alastor is raped
This. He probably fantasizes about the idea of it but would never do it for that reason. He's a horndog but he's not controlled by lust.
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>>153145217
Angels don't have sex read the bible
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>>153163499
You first, faggot
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>>153148938
I like the characters shame the writing is awful I have hopium season two was so bad because they wanted to tie loose ends from season one and season three can be better
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>>153163499
Angel men were fucking human women in the very first book of the bible.
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>>153163507
I read some of it
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>>153163516
God got so autistic over it he committed two genocides
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>>153163499
Actually male angels had sex with human women which resulted in nephilim, what I find interesting is that there is no mention of female angels anywhere in abrahamic theology, they're either masculine or genderless.
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>>153163539
or it could be that human men are so beneath the standards of female angels that they've never been revealed to us so that we don't try to pursue romance with them
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>>153163385
>WTF even is the logic behind this?
She basically said that it was just shipping bs because val talked at the end of the song and alastor remained unraped
Shits crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc2UTlr_0ss&t=1388s
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>>153163653
So... she's getting mad that Vox didn't rape Alastor because she's mad at people shipping them and thinks it's shipbait because he didn't rape him? The fuck? Retarded logic especially considering that a lot of fujos fucking love gay cartoon rape so that wouldn't have stopped anyone.
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>>153163079
The obsessive hatred some people have over Hazbin Hotel is absolutely hysterical. I swear every day they're making up new things in the show to bitch about because they don't have any personality outside of their autistic hatred for Vivziepop.
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>>153163734
How many human women has he fucked?
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>>153163176
I used to hate AI but the way it edits stuff accurately to the show's artstyle is fascinating. I always edited and played around in paintnet, but I could never do things well. This Vox is stinkin' adorable.
>>153163385
He might have intrusive thoughts about it, but he's not that type to have such fantasies I think. He had a celebrity crush once, he's touchy but not in a sexual way and he's really only ever horny for Val. He is fixable he is a good boy I promise he's a cute TV trust us
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>>153163738
a shit ton, he descends from the heavens to mate with them.
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>>153152576
According to their own religious text jews themselves are a mutation, the cananites split off from the rest of humanity to become jews. Also, his mom was blonde and Adam isn't a jew.
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>>153158741
>adam
>evil
from what we have seen of hell in the last season heavens actions were entirely justified
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>>153163772
Oh my god those PJs are adorable
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>>153163912
Right? I love how it kept the bow too, such a cute detail
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>>153163903
I can't help but feel that if he humored her for just a little bit, he could've absolutely tapped that.
>"Hey Lucy, I fucked your babygirl."
>"Hey Vaggie, I smashed your babe."
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You think Lute would like Abel calling her Mommy?
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>>153164006
If they did ever get together she would want him to wear adams mask and would pretend it was his father when they had sex
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>>153160206
>Cain killing Abel was history's first Is It Gay debate gone wrong
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>>153158830
He was probably looking up angel porn.
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>>153163738
None. Those are his grandchildren...
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>>153163968
I hope we get some explanation of regeneration. Maybe heavenborn like Lute would have trouble regrowing parts of her, but you'd think an actual human soul would be immune from becoming an amputee in Heaven of all places. Even sinners regenerate.
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>>153164543
It would be metal as fuck if michael does show up and all of his limbs are gold
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>>153145217
virgin loser that gets no pussy except for Lute who rapes him to get her Adam fix after he called her "bitch"
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Why doesn't Charlie tackle the problem of Goetia oppressing the lesser hellborns when, as her father's creations that actually revere him, they are arguably 'her people' more than sinners? Does she just want to fight for an underdog and ignore the problematic system her family directly put in place? How bougie of her
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I imagine the Hazbin Hotel is somewhat offensive to hellborn, who intrinsically have no shot at redemption, as it implies their lives in Hell are worthless if they can't get to Heaven. Couple that with the whole 'not dealing with Goetia' thing and she's probably extremely unpopular with hellborn
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>>153164705
>>153164736
Viv didn't think her world through; that's exactly why she tries to portray Lucifer and Lilith as victims who only wanted to give humanity free will, but then their kingdom is built on an incredibly oppressive caste system where the two of them hold absolute power. The same goes for the sinners; Lilith was supposedly interested in them, but she still did nothing to stop the Overlords from abusing the millions of souls they keep as slaves.
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>>153164791
I think Charlie's views on her parents is just some bullshit lie they told her to make themselves look better to their daughter. Lilith clearly don't give a fuck about Hell otherwise she wouldn't have made a deal with the angels so she can stay in Heaven.
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>>153164705
>the problem of Goetia oppressing the lesser hellborns
imps live in all the rings, can be whatever they want and fuck whoever they want and have mutt babies
what oppression do they have?
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>>153164813
With Lilith, that’s certainly possible, but Viv is obsessed with portraying Lucifer as a poor dreamer who never meant any harm, which clashes sharply with the fact that he’s the king of a realm where certain races literally have fewer rights and some are treated like animals, and he has no excuse for not improving things, given that his punishment is merely not being able to harm sinners, he has no restrictions when it comes to the Hellborn.
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Who will win the Abelbowl?
Lute, Emily or St Peter?
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>>153164874
Lute only wants to fuck his dad
Emily is too good for him
Peter Is his only option
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>>153164814
They're not being oppressed by sinners, they're being oppressed by the higher hellborn who live everywhere they live. They can be permakilled on a whim by the high castes. So like what Heaven is doing to Sinners except Charlie could directly intervene in the hellborn courts anytime she wanted and they would listen to her.
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>>153164874
It'd be super progressive for him to be gay with Peter and dodge the setting's "homos go to hell" allegations.
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>>153158713
>>153158775
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>>153164968
Peter is with Santa Claus
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I think Vaggie is boring too but why is Lute getting a pass for making her love interest her entire personality? Because he's dead?
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>>153165457
There's an actual difference. What would Vaggie be doing if Charlie died?
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>>153165457
>>153165775
I just realized something: the whole reason Lute went so crazy because the Exorcists have literally never had to deal with grief before so she has no idea how to process it.
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>>153165836
*is because
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>>153164736
>the hotel implies hellborn’s lives in Hell are worthless if they can't get to Heaven

I know it’s easy to forget, but Charlie originally only wanted the hotel guests to achieve redemption to solve the problem of overpopulation in “Hell,” (but moreso the pride ring in particular, since I guess that’s the only ring sinners can occupy). Overpopulation was only even a problem because of the exterminations. Now that Adam is gone and Sera is in charge and presumably doesn’t want to do the exterminations anymore, there shouldn’t be any need for redemption.

Obviously the show isn’t over so I guess there’s still gonna be war between Heaven and Hell because of new villains like Lute and Lilith or something. But the point is, sinners were facing a unique problem that doesn’t seem to apply to the hellborn in the other rings, and redemption was a unique solution to that problem.

Though, I just started writing a long paragraph about how the fuck hellborn lifespans and breeding works, and then I started to wonder if Heaven and Hell are supposed to even exist in finite spaces. And I just realized again that the world building is kinda shit anyway.
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>>153166045
>Overpopulation was only even a problem because of the exterminations.
That's backwards. There's an established correlation between Hell's numbers and the ability to attack Heaven, with Lilith originally using those numbers to boost her own power and Vox doing the same thing. The idea that Lilith powering up with sinner souls was a response to the exterminations is undermined by their recency.

Exterminations just weren't a thing until around the time Lilith was arranging "peaceful protests", which kind of doesn't make sense either way. Either Heaven waited thousands of years to just start culling Hell and Lilith was reacting to that, or Lilith waited thousands of years to start shit with Heaven and Heaven was reacting to that. Hell's numbers are the only commonality between them, because that's the only real way Hell poses a threat to Heaven, so depleting them would always be a goal. If extermination is off the table, redemption would still be necessary as an alternative, although it's hard to imagine redemption ever outpacing damnation. Yes, the world building is shit.
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>>153166045
>>153166232
Hell is a shitty place where only the biggest, strongest and meanest assholes can thrive, and everyone else can get fucked. You wouldn't be one of the badass overlords, you'd be that guy from the pilot who gets run over right after he drops in.
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>>153165457
Only single people think like this. He was fucking murdered like a month ago and nobody seems to care, Lute would have to be some kind of robotic autist to not go full crusade now.
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>>153166539
Is that guy still under that rock?
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>>153167079
>He was fucking murdered like a month ago and nobody seems to care
It's kinda fucked up that Lute is more bothered by Adam's death than his own son.
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>>153167079
Describe Lute's character without mentioning Adam.
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>>153145217
>slopin hotel
Don't care
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>>153167673
NTA but...
>disabled veteran with PTSD
>genocidal
>racist
>homophobic
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>>153167673
She really likes killing demons.
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Do (You) have this?
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>>153168068
>moisturize me
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>>153145230
Yeah.
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>>153168068
I wish
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>>153168068
No, but I will have this
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>>153167079
>murdered
Not to say that Abel shouldn’t’ve tried a little harder to pretend to be sad. But, Adam died fighting in a war that he started.

The same way the main cast all more or less said their goodbyes to each other before going into that battle, the angels and exorcists very possibly did too.
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>>153156728
FEMALE COP
GUN DRAWN
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>>153168399
>the angels and exorcists very possibly did too.
They didn't though. The angels thought it was going to be a one-sided slaughter. If they thought they might not make it out alive, Lute probably would've confessed to Adam.
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>>153167673
Vivziepop says she's been "bred to believe in Heaven's hierarchy" and now everything she was raised to believe in has been shaken. She puts her loved ones and her beliefs before herself. She is very loyal. She values her own life very little, was unafraid of death at Vaggie's hand and was willing to be killed in the blast from the Might of Lilith. According to her voice actor, deep down, she thinks she is a loser.
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>>153168481
Adam thought he was going to decimate the Hotel but I bet Abel wasn’t surprised when he didn’t come back.
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The other thing to remember with Lute when it comes to Adam's death is exorcists seem to basically be disposable footsoldiers for Heaven, they don't get to do the fun Winner stuff and they definitely shouldn't talk back. As Adam's personal favorite she had a voice in the court, got to speak her mind freely and even had a more presitigious booth in the courtroom. Adam was respected so by proxy Lute was respected. Now he is gone nobody listens to her, nobody is interested in what a mere exorcist has to say. Vivziepop said he was the only person to ever really support her and let her speak her mind.



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