>today, we're going to talk about what it means to be happy about who or what you are >you might comb your hair differently>you might wear a different dress>you might be a ham tomorrow, like me>but it doesn't change who you are>I know who or what I am-I'm a pig!>you see, you can paint a bag of chickpeas all pretty and blue, and it'll look nice, but it's still a bag of chickpeasdamn, what a good message to give children. really, the whole episode was prescient, just as prescient as when the movie Toys predicted drone warfare. what are some other shows that had episodes with prescient messages or premises in them?
>>153161510https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htAbSAl8xS0
Thinly veiled thread about you-know-whatThat being said, it's sad a nice message like this would get you-know-whats pissed off if it was put in a cartoon today
>>153161574indeed. Simple facts are the most offensive thingThe amazing thing is seeing these people's mental gymnastics go into full meltdown watching a Mister Rogers video.You can't harp on 'God loves you just the way you are' and then start insisting the opposite, even if the letters you're using to say so are in the same alphabet.anyway Cow and Chicken was fuckin hilarious but I have no desire to watch it again.
>you see, you can paint a bag of chickpeas all pretty and blue, and it'll look nice, but it's still a bag of chickpeasIs that really a good message?
>1994>Phantom 2040 "Swifter, Faster, Higher">evil megacorp hosts "The Postmodern Olympics" where the motto is "crush your competition at any cost">their evil plan is to dope an athlete with undetectable nanomachines>2002>BALCO scandal over undetectable designer drugs>2026>Enhanced Games scheduled for May, backed by a cabal of gay billionaires, including Palantir chairman Peter ThielIt remains to be seen whether any of the athletes will get super roid rage from an experimental drug
>>153162013well anon, tell me, are true things good messages, or false ones?
>>153161510>troons somehow believe this support their argumentsMentally ill people indeed.
>>153162053it's almost like physical competition is a barbaric thing we should have been able to move past 150 years ago.who the fuck cares whose meat is better at doing random meat things. Howbout instead of running around a track, we watch a guy run to the fucking store to buy food for his kid. And the judge is his kid.
>>153162056True messages are better but only if they’re communicated well enough to actually land. If presented poorly people ignore or misunderstand them. False messages are often simpler and feel more convincing in the moment.This gets more nuanced in storytelling. A story doesn’t have to be literally true to carry a true message. A cartoon about talking robots can still express real truths about war, fear, empathy, etc. Meanwhile, a “realistic” story can still push false ideas (oversimplified morality, bad social assumptions). So the real question becomes "is the message emotionally or morally true, even if the story is fictional?"A true message told imperfectly is still more valuable than a false message told perfectly. That said, some “false” messages can be useful temporarily (like myths or simplified lessons for kids) but they should eventually lead toward deeper truth and not replace it entirely.That statement is pretty blunt and ignores the fact that presentation does matter. How something is framed can change how people understand it or make something more accessible. A clear explanation vs. a confusing one can make the same idea succeed or fail. It also treats things as having a fixed, clear, unchanging core when in fact many things do not actually work this way. Sometimes changing the “outside” actually does change the inside.People often use this kind of line to shut down discussion or not engage in an argument. It sounds insightful but can become a rhetorical shortcut instead of actual analysis. It assumes “plain = honest” and “polished = deceptive”. That’s not reliable. A bad idea can be plain and still bad. A true idea can be polished and still true. The saying works best as a warning, not a rule. Better to say “don’t be fooled by presentation alone” over “presentation never matters” or “if it looks polished, it must be empty”. 1/2
>>153162421It’s not wrong but it’s oversimplified. It correctly reminds you to look past appearances but incorrectly suggests appearances are irrelevant. And in real life they’re often part of the meaning not just a disguise. However the message is from a cartoon meant for 12 year olds so I guess I shouldn't overanalyze it. 2/2
>>153162075t. 400 pound weakling
>>153162075How about that sportsball team this year, eh?
You left out the best part!>Have you ever seen a chickpea before?Get it?
>>153162075Right, keyboard warriors and vidya are so much better.
