>>153171964
>turns out they actually did fire the entire crew without a heads up overnight
>someone even moved there two months before getting sacked

brutal

>>153171964
>What's your excuse /co/?
I have a steady job where I’m not at risk of being laid off after less than a year of underpaid crunch hours in the most unstable and unfulfilling industry where you might get a 1% chance of making your own show if you’re popular and ass-kissy enough and executives will still make all of the money from merchandising.

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>>153171964
Wait, SF is actually ending?
Did they not announce it was a prank on the 1st?

>>153172072
Could she have a lawsuit case? I feel like there was alot of money she invested into moving and she probably signed a contract that would been void out of nowhere. hopefully the people that got affected atleast get offered a new job because damm that was a load of shit

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>>153171964
That's a nice story with a positive look on a otherwise bad situation.

>>153171964
It's not fair he made an official OneyPlays animated and was probably hired through lucky networking skills through Chris, that's pretty much nepotism.

Ok, there's no way this is fake now. You have multiple directors and boarders talking about it, asking for work, etc.

>>153172670
only a complete drooling retarded full blown autist could have thought this was something anyone jokes about.

>>153172148
>>153172670
were people actually retarded enough to think it wasn't real?

>>153172709
Yes, at least here. Hell, there are still anons who insist it's a fucking prank

>>153172670
It was obvious it was real just by the date of the announcement in goddamn February. If it was for April fools they would have done it far closer to the 1st

>>153172723
>NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I COULD HEAR IT IN ZACH'S VOICE HE'S LYING YOU DON'T KNOW HIM LIKE I DO

>>153172763
>its just a bit guys just like my favorite oneyplays moments! gosh my pal zach is such a kidder you guys just dont know his sense of humor!

>>153171964
My excuse is that I'm not good enough to get noticed by industry people

Zach is probably not getting work again after this, quitting after your show got renewed for two more season displays a lack of professionalism and ethic. The industry isn't gonna hire his ass ever again, Michael might be spared since he already had other shows under his belt. Enjoy doing funny voices for the rest of your life on Oneyplays, Zach.

>>153172819
Michael has the work ethic to make shit himself as we've seen last year (8 episodes Croc and Cube, 6 more eps of Damo and Darren)

>>153172411
I thought you can animate from home now?

The entire process for making a show like this seems so fucked and so unpleasant to engage with. I mean most of the first season was probably remote and is unusually hard but even then, I dunno man, it all doesn't seem worth it. But that might be my own bias against most comedy cartoons (Spongebob and others are good) as the dumb jokes used for a cartoon involve a lot more effort and sacrifice for shit I don't usually find too funny or feel like a scam kinda like how comedians sometimes seem scummy for charging people money for such shit comedy. Like I think that's why I would only feel comfortable with making animated dramas/action if I had to be part of a show like this. That's a weird hang-up I have but watching this guy walk through all this stuff he went through for this, it all just seems fucked and insane you'd find enjoyment. Zach and Michael are probably pretty affable guys but nah, I don't think I will ever have heroes, it's people who can do cool shit but are otherwise flawed or normal. That perspective is also another reason this looks weird to me.

Why is the guy who posted a bunch a static images with no real animation an animation director? Does anyone in the west do animation?

>>153172819
He can voice background demons in Hazbin Hotel

>>153172869
If you watched the video he actually handled some scenes that had pretty fluid animation

>>153172148
>People expecting them to reveal seasons 4 and 5 when all they got was a claymation short and a doubling down on the cancellation

>>153172148
it's legit ending after this sunday's last two episodes

zach and mike said they might come back to it, but they dont feel a spark with it any more (im blaming all the redditors and normies getting behind it)

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Is that fucking Adam on the far left

>>153172894
No thanks, he sounds really boring. I understand that he handled off the work to the korean team.

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I'm fine with it ending, I just beg them to release seasons 2 and 3 on Blu-ray
There's something about TV on Blu that I just love. These seasons are also short enough that you could fit both on one disc

>>153172898
yeah the moment it became a show with a "internet fandom" it was over

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>>153172901
>it's all white guys and 5 women

>>153172981
ironically zack absolutely hates the internet fandom types and redditors

So he probably wanted to axe it a lot earlier if it wasnt for michael's input

>>153172988
I know, they could use fewer women

>>153172952
It's always better to release complete series sets on Blu-ray rather than individual seasons.

>>153172901
yes. the face of a man who has had a threesome and regularly has sex. i don't want anyone 6ft+ complaining about not being able to get sex when this drooling mongoloid who can barely string together a coherent thought can have a threesome.

>work on a show
>your art style just becomes the shows art style

>>153173129
its okay seth macfarlane

>>153171964
i can fix three alternators per day.

>>153173120
You failed to mention the looks of these supposed 2 other people. For all we know, it could have been with that chinese girl and that Indian guy in the pic.

>>153173231
it was two girls iirc. the point is all that matters is height clearly since women are shallow retards who instantly gush uncontrollably when even total retards pass that magical 6ft mark. even 5'11" gives them le ick.

>>153171964
is there a name for this autistic garfield muppet-sona style? because at least 5 tva showrunners draw exactly like it

>>153173231
>>153173278
It was 2 French dykes

>>153171964
>got a job to work on smiling friends thanks to zach
>this retard STILL goes to college to get his art degree during the production

genuinely why? Did he not put together he didnt need the degree once he got the job? Even the professor told him he didnt need to attend class.

>>153171964
>AS switched to cheap Youtube labor to punish the union
Is that news?

>>153173319
its a rich boy hobby
you get to drink with your bros, and fuck italian arthoes

>>153171964
>I was just a 25 year old baby, dude!
Why's he so obsessed with his age? Is he trying to make no-draw daydreamers jealous of his success? Or is the bar really that low for zoomers

>>153173460
western animation has been all but dead for like 15 years. working on literally anything successful isn't exactly super common.

>>153173278
Well maybe I have a chance then. I'm 6' but I have just been focused on other shit than relationships and I think either my looks or personality (didn't talk much, goofed around in a silly more immature way, and I would also mess with the girls in my grade back in school and make fun of them) are why I probably haven't had a gf yet. Problem is that a bunch of the women around here aren't white or just aren't pleasant to look at. Might just keep making money and write stuff before I move somewhere else.
Blogpost over.
Anyway, threesomes don't matter for shit since people who do them are degens. I'd rather just focus on one girl since then you have some reason to be that close to someone. Anyone who says they just have sex and never form a connection is always just a sad cope. There is some level where you're vulnerable and doing that to multiple people is disrespecting yourself and your time. You're just doing it for sheer pleasure and if you're doing that then you're basically saying the other person's time/presence isn't substantial and their vulnerable action isn't meaningful. These people say that sex doesn't leave them vulnerable or that it empowers them, that is grade-a women/feminized men cope.
>>153173460
>>153173483
Might be inspiring but I dunno, the studios being that desperate and exploitative could also be true.

This isnt a good look for Zach or Michael
>if they saw someone draw fanart, they would just hire them on the spot because they're such nice guys!
no its more like they couldnt afford to pay industry professionals. showrunners need impressionable young idiots who can get easily guilted into overworking themselves because every zoomer animator fears the dreaded "blacklist"

>>153173319
Correction: You don’t need a degree to get an art cartoon job. The cartoon jobs are gone and there are other uses for a degree you already invested in if you finish it out. Completing school is a better demonstration of his long-term planning ability and commitment than any assignment he had on SF.

>>153173319
The fact that everyone on the SF team lost their job after they decided to not do another season makes that degree worth it.
But, wouldn't AS transfer these people to other projects that are ongoing?
Maybe I don't understand the industry, but to me it would make sense to retain these artists and directors for other projects based on their previous work.

>>153173666
>But, wouldn't AS transfer these people to other projects that are ongoing?
yeah thats my thought too. They'll just move them to other stuff thats going on in the studio

I assume at least

>>153173676
It would make sense to drop them like that if they were only interns and temps workers without guaranteed promotion, but I don't know.

>>153173666
Depends how much work there is to go around, but yeah they’ll get referrals. some of them already have other work

>>153171964
I didn't have access to flash growing up

>>153173278
the silver lining is that women don't actually know what 6ft looks since they can't into scale, numbers, or math.
pro-tip: give them your height in cm and pretend you don't know imperial to watch them try and fail to reckon whether or not they consider you subhuman

>>153173460
Because young is all he has ever been, retard. When our perspectives are that green, we all wonder if we just become incompetent blubbering retards when we experience what it means to become old.

>>153174657
i'm 5'11" without shoes and have never been called tall or felt tall in my entire life. if anything i'd argue the tall label has been pushed up to 6'2" nowadays. it'll probably stay there for the foreseeable future unless gen alpha ends up freakishly tall for whatever reason.

I’m not really a fan of this guys art style whenever I see it. But it’s cool he got the job.

>>153172723
its true honest to god copium
>t. oneyplaysfag

>>153171964
>19 yo animation director
Starting to think Smiling Friends ending is less because they wanted to and more things went to shit behind the scenes

>>153172148
>TADC image
>Is retarded
Well that's what Zach and Cusack get after festering parasocial behaviors with OneyPlays

>>153175648
You think?

>>153171964
Man, it was pretty shitty of them to pretend Season 4 was happening and allow people to move to Atlanta to work on it, then end the show and screw those people over.

>>153171964
Neat!

>>153171964
I lake the skill and the connections, never really tried to get into this field truthfully.

>>153172148
>TADC image
>dumbest post possible
Yep

>>153176076
>Hannah Daigle
>she made Satina
>looks like she stopped working on her series when she got hired on smiling friends
>she dropped her indie series that was performing well to work on a tv show that just ended up laying her off
Yeah that's pretty shitty. Imagine putting your passion project that's gaining momentum on pause for a stable job just for them to rugpull you. And moving to Atlanta can't be cheap.

>>153177330
How large was her presence on social media? Because there is a chance they found her through browsing here of all places.

>>153177715
I think Satina's decently popular on newgrounds, probably where they found her.

>>153177715
Satina is just as popular outside of here anon

>>153177330
you GOTTA understand.. they were burnt out..
they couldn't just hire someone they trust to take over the show because... THEY WERE TOO BURNT OUT TO DO THAT, OK??????

>got a Smiling Friends tattoo
>Michael and Zack were probably visibly weirded out by it enough for him to even bother animating it
I can see why Zach and Michael bailed. This show proved that the old internet culture is gone and its nothing but Reddit now

>>153173120
>>153173278
That drooling mongoloid comes from money. That's why.

I fully support them ending the show but they're probably going to feel the actual reality backlash of just cancelling a show out of the blue
>pulled lots of online old newgrounds talent to work on show
>some people moved to work on the show
>end show out of the blue
>even if contacts were signed, AS probably gave the crew no actual benefits in fine print and most probably won't be compensated
>Zach and Michael's jobs are probably safe because they're now established show runners, Michael already having like 3/4 shows under his belt
Twitter troons and Redditors are going to have a meltdown over this and Shigloo probably doesn't realize

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>WAAAAHHH! We can't take my hit cartoon being popular! We gotta cancel it, fuck over our contract with the network and put dozens of people out of a job before it becomes muh Rick n Morteeeee!!!
This is more pathetic than any autistic fanbase imo. Why do people care so much about this now? Horse Program survived it, so did countless others with far worse fanbases

>>153173278
>>153173120
As a terminally retarded Oneyplays viewer, if you kept up with all the shit Adam mentions about his life you can infer a couple of things about him and why he's able to do all that
>lived in Japan as a child
>parents are clearly loaded because Adam can afford to slum around CA doing drugs and seemingly not working
Also the two girls he had a threesome with were drunk when it happened and they ghosted him afterward

A lot of you act like we're still in high school and sex is impossible now. If you want to go out and fuck just for the sake of it, its easy

>>153172723
when you look deeper into season 3, it seems thats when Adult Swim wanted more creative control over the show and then you combine that with the WB buyout and the animation being outsourced to Korea and it makes sense.

>>153172511
>that's pretty much nepotism
Except he actually has the tools and skills to manage a team efficiently?

>>153178194
I think they’re just so rich and Newgrounds they couldn’t see it as fucking over employees or the industry, even as an unintended consequence of the decision. Like, if someone on the crew tried to bring this up diplomatically and you didn’t grasp the career-minded industry worker’s context you’d think they’re just trying to keep a job and butt into an artist’s personal decision or it’s all about clinging to the success or whatever. You would have had plenty of other convos before where you were right to make that assumption so it’d be hard to see any difference.

>>153172072
>believing rumors from randos with no proof

Why are animators entitled to decide over two guys who actually made a show worth watching when it should end and why? When a shitty cartoon gets cancelled after a season for being poorly written or an annoying premise that appeals to no one there's no blame for putting animators out of a job.

>>153178933
I don't know man, it's almost like it was renewed for two more seasons or something

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>>153177330
Well that's just the thing, though. Daigle at least has a moderately successful indie series she can fall back on. Most other people who worked on Smiling Friends are shit outta luck. Background artists and maybe certain animators who worked on the S3 Halloween ep can use that for their portfolios, but you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who gets hired for drawing Scrimblo Bimblo in scene 47.

SF was a very unconventional TV cartoon, and the creators are cowards and kinda selfish for just bailing the way they did. Could've at least respected the promised 2-season renewal before officially calling it quits.

>>153178273
>it seems thats when Adult Swim wanted more creative control over the show
if this was such a big deal to them then why did they let the guys back out of the contract though

>>153178933
They did get to decide.

Zach just anal vore'd an entire ensemble of starstruck Newgrounds animators, and the goatse-shat them down all over the pavement on Adult Swim's front porch and told them to clean it up.
What were they thinking? Burnout? This was what their entire life lead up to. Their dream, fulfilled.

>>153172511
The lesson to take from this is that networking is important, even more so on 'industry-heavy' art forms like animation. It's inevitable and there's nothing necessarily wrong with it IMO, it's an important to cultivate it when possible.

>>153179051
A positive long term relationship with a creator that can make things that succeed is worth more to a network than another season of their first show

>>153177908
>>153177949
Ok that was what I was expecting, just wanted to ask.

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>>153178273
>Adult Swim wanted more creative control over the show
They would've forced Smiling Friends to stay in production if that were the case.

Let's be real; the only reason Adult Swim "respected Zach & Michael's wishes" was because Smiling Friends quite literally can't be made without Zach and Michael on board, unlike something with a MUCH larger team of writers/directors/producers like current Rick and Morty. I'm 100% confident Ouweleen is pissed about losing one of his newest flagship series.

Why does Zach dress like a corpo faggot in every recent picture? Always wearing some kind of button up and those blocker shades. Makes me sick.

>>153172988
>seething about white people for no reason
We get it, you're jealous of us

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>>153179169
Tell that to JG Quintel.

On that note, if Zach has any future show ideas he better not even bother pitching to anyone but Adult Swim. The guy has now made himself known to be a flake to the rest of the industry. Odds are whatever he pitches won't reach the same popularity as Smiling Friends, but hopefully it'll be something that feels distinct. Making a second show that feels too similar would only beg the question, "Why not just keep making Smiling Friends in the first place?"

>>153173519
I used to fear the blacklist until some art twata got pissy at me so I told them off. I get to cultivate my own brand and avoid control freak bosses at the same time.

>>153179279
Sorry JG. I mean in the sense that they would hope to buy more IP because the first one worked out but will never go for another show for the reasons you stated.

>>153173519
>Couldn't afford
Baseless assumption
>Chose not to invest in
Solid assumption. I doubt they would know how to work with a seasoned professional and neither would enjoy it.
The pitch may even have been around it being an art style that facilitated lower overheads.
>>153173666
The standards on SF are pretty low, not sure there's much value in the fresh faces like this to AS for some other show. Does AS generally provide the animation talent? This guy is describing getting picked directly by an IP creator

>>153179325
>Baseless assumption
Not when they use half of the budget to bring in comedians for totally necessary cameos where the whole joke is "it's x famous person, laugh"

don't they have their own animated studio now? I wonder what they're working on

>>153179423
>I wonder what they're working on
not smiling friends lol

>>153179423
working on brushing up on their impersonations for oney plays, maybe

>>153179423
Hopefully recovering from burnout that shit is no joke

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Still calling it being a big ruse. I won't be fooled.

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>Is that a real tattoo?
>yeah, its to celebrate my new life long career of working on the next 30 seasons of Smiling Friends!
>Michael can I talk to you for a second?
>Look Michael, I know we moved all these people out here but these people are a lost cause. Lets just cut our losses and bail

>>153172148
SEX WITH POMNI

I don’t think Zach can take the publicity desu.

>>153179279
I thick Zach's best bet is to go into indie animation like gooseworx

>>153179605
Exactly what went through my head. They knew the entire time.

>happy ending where he’s grateful for having worked on the show
I’m sure he’s glad for the experience but he’s not happy. No one is ever happy to be made redundant. You’re just forced to pretend it’s all good or your risk never getting hired again.

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>>153178933
Animators on those type of shows hold no passion over their work, why would they if they know it's just some hack comedian slop? It's "just a job" to them.

>>153172072
I think it says a lot about Hannah that she didn’t complain at all despite having been done so dirty by Zach. I would not forgive him if he convinced me to move for a job just to fire me because he got lazy. That’s a Zaslav move.

>>153179350
I'll admit to being clueless on what their funding agreements are. I'm working on a very much baseless assumption that any amount under 'budget' is money in Zach's pocket.
I'm not implying they haven't been specifically cheaping out on animation. I'm positing that it could be either greed or that there was just no reason to bring in bigger guns to tell the jokes/stories they wanted.
I can afford to hire a gardener, but my garden isn't that big, so I just do it myself. You dig? (If so, will hire you to work on my garden)
... Also wait, you just established there was budget for 'big names' to voice act, so it seems to yeah be an intentional choice to not sink money into Redline animation when they're telling a little above Oneyplays jokes

>>153172819
Zach doesn't strike me as the sort of guy that is constantly striving for more and more success. I think he'd be content with having done his network show, and is more than happy to look for some other thing to work on. He seems to be living comfortably enough.

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>>153178237
>If you want to go out and fuck just for the sake of it, its easy
No it's not....

>>153179761
I don't think he really has the talent or connections for that. Plus he HATES the type of people that really like indie animations.

>>153172901
Honestly, it's kind of weird how good-looking Zach is.

>>153180844
What the fuck are you talking about?
Do you only know of him from letsplays?

Someone just break NDA already and give me the real reason why Smiling Friends is ending so soon. I think Zach and Michael got weirded out by the fans and bailed out after the New York pop up thing.

>>153180931
>Muh fans
If that's the actual reason then that's pathetic desu.
Imagine throwing away 2 more seasons and christ knows how many dollars because you're scared of being cringe

>>153179605
>But Zach, all these people have stakes their future on this working out...If we back out now they'll be stranded
>Yeah but we need to pull out now. If we're not careful then we'll become the new Rick and Morry and then we're fucked
>I just don't know Charlie...

>>153172923
Of course he's boring, he's 19. Zach is also a bit boring, despite being 30 though.

>>153180998
Rick and Morty's demise was caused by a bunch of different shit going wrong one after another
I don't know why people assume every adult cartoon will end up like it

>>153180898
?

>>153181013
Zach obviously has the talent for indie animation and definitely has the connections at this point.
Idk his stance on the indie scene but if he's willing to guest star in TADC and fucking LS Mark's cartoon then I doubt he hates it

>>153181024
lol okay cuck

So Zach and Michael seriously just ended this show without informing the people who worked on it? That's really a dick in the ass move the more you think about it.

You just know that tattoo was a contributing factor to the show’s cancellation.

>ending it at the peak instead of letting it rot and fester
absolutely based and respect anyone that don't like it are mouth breathing mindless consoooooomers that cant be alone with their thoughts for 5 minutes and constantly need stimulation

>>153181222
More like spergs and autists forced them to end it early because they didn’t want szechuan sauce levels of retardation.

>>153181220
People get tattoos of characters all the goddamn time, what makes this one so special

>>153171964
Anyone can make it when they get on the bloody mattress. I would've waited until at least 25 thoughie

>>153172901
There is always one random asian woman in pictures like this.

>>153181008
Zach actually networked work Roiland quite a bit. Do you think Zach knew that Roiland was an abuser some time during his collab with him or do you think he was genuinely surprised?

>>153180931
>>153180945
They likely wanted an ATHF/Family Guy type of fandom -- just a bunch of chucklefucks who quote the show and post funny clips from it, not something that would make them think of fandoms like Adventure Time, Steven Universe, or Rick and Morty.

>>153181522
Maybe I'm just an asshole but I wouldn't care less about my "fandom" if I had a cartoon as long as I'm getting paid and get to make my shit

>>153181522
They're retarded if they ever thought they were going to get that

>>153181522
Smiling Friends fans are already annoying trying to feel above other fandoms to the point where they'll accept their show ending 2 seasons early and not even 30 goddamn episodes.
Fucking Haha You Clowns may very well surpass it, it also has a two season renewal. That's just sad imo.

>>153172901
What did the women do?

>>153181522
>Make a screaming, ADHD random humor show
>Get shocked that your fans are screaming, ADHD people
I have zero sympathy.

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>>153180931
Zach already has experience with online weirdos, I doubt it's due to the fandom. Fandoms really overestimate their importance. It's likely due to internal conflicts with warner bros, they probably pushed for the show to be made cheaper, with more work done in korea instead of in-house.

>>153171964
They saw people getting mad at Charlie for being mean to his girlfriend for a gag, and the stupid husbandofagging by retarded women, and said fuck it.

>>153171964
My parents told me that drawing cartoons is for the rich western people and fags so I stopped learning how to draw

>>153171964
I was 20 when I was an extra in Joker (2019)

So im happy all things considered

Plus from a grant Morrison chaos Magick perspective im forever part of DC lmao

>>153171964
Not rich enough for mommy and daddy to pay my way through college aboard in italy for an animation career.

The most important part of his story is that he was hired in the first place, and it was a in the right place at the right time situation. He wasn’t even really looking for a job when he messaged Charlie. He got lucky. All the promotions that came after, and all the experiences he had, they’re just products of being at your job long enough and your employers preferring to hire from within when they have new tasks that need completing. In fact he makes it clear several times that he wasn’t really trained for anything. He was teaching himself as he want along and just trying his best. He wasn’t someone with years of experience in storyboarding or animating or leading a team when he got his promotions. The single biggest problem that holds people back these days is that entry level jobs are basically non existent. Employers taking a chance with people rarely happens. The other problem people regularly face is there’s no job stability anymore. The moment an economic recession is around the corner, people are laid off en masse. The working world is misery. Also I’m curious if he got a pay rise every time he was given new responsibilities.

>>153172901
Whos the old mexican guy

>>153172706
This series literally started with the exact same joke.

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Newgrounds animators can't handle being told what to do and cannot meet deadlines. Cusack isn't like that though, he can actually deliver. Zach is the one to blame here.

>>153175176
You're retarded.

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>>153172901

>>153172996
It got axed because of the paramount fusion. Also, most of the fans are on twitter and tiktok, not reddit. It's annoying to call every person you don't like "redditor" when reddit is irrevelant, nowadays.

>>153181777
C-c-c-checked!

>>153172901
Chris is starting to look like Boris Johnson

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>>153181777
They probably sent that fat black guy who's married to Rebecca Sugar to talk to them about simplifying their designs and staying on model for the south koreans.

>>153180931
They would be nothing without their fans though.

>>153172869
The show was mostly animated in Australia for season 1 and 2, it's just that in season 3 they shifted to Korea (while still having a dedicated in house retake team) which is probably the ideal situation. Send the Koreans grunt work of shitting out easy scenes while complicated or specifically directed work gets to be done stateside.

>>153180931
I think interacting with big shot hollywood babyeater types scared them away. It's either that or meetings with the network heads where they discuss the future of the company; there's a chance that what was said during the last one Zach and Michael attended was so bad, they felt they had no choice but to hang it up

>>153182363
Brother, OK KO was only on model once in a blue moon by design. If anything he'd tell them to loosen up the animation a bit more like that one rough shot Aaron Long did that they absolutely fucking butchered in cleanup.

>>153182300
Oney is a hulking gigachad with the mind of an autistic 10 yr old. What a waste.

>>153181008
correct me if im wrong because im talking out of my ass, but my assumption was rick and morty went to shit because after season 2 wrapped up, they went on to not produce an episode for 2 years, and the funny people in the writers room got antsy and looked for work elsewhere during that time period
couple that with the whole brett gelman campaign, all those guys got swapped out with the same breed of talented women writers who ruined every long-running FOX animated sitcom (including the one that moved to TBS)

When I was 19, I was already depressed and unwilling to do anything from the isolation during my high school years and then my overbearing parents didn't want to help me apply for even a simple job or support me in getting a driver's licence because I wasn't smart or responsible enough for that (I don't live in the US where a licence is practically mandatory)

>>153181522
They shouldn't have made the characters jellybean colored gobbos then
fat women and trannies naturally want to shove yummy looking characters up their stinky cooters, this is a known fact and zach had this in mind when he was designing the characters

>>153182944
Women simping for Charlie and using him, a fictional character as supposed proof that they don't care about men's appearance is incredibly funny

>>153182363
This is like the very opposite of what people know about Ian's stance of staying on model.

>>153171964
Cool and insightful video

>>153178237
They had an episode where Tomar tells Adam he never paid him back for a hotel room deposit and kept saying he would, Adam turns up the retard act and says "I dont have $200 right now, but I'll get it to you later"

>>153181924
What scene

>>153178237
>A lot of you act like we're still in high school and sex is impossible now. If you want to go out and fuck just for the sake of it, its easy
if you are:

socially isolated, and have difficulty socializing with people in general

not traditionally handsome or conventionally attractive

sub 6ft barefoot

have a weak or bad frame

then there is a high chance you will die a virgin nowadays as a man. that's just a fact. i don't know how high on copium you have to be, or in your own little privileged bubble to deny that.

>>153178237
>If you want to go out and fuck just for the sake of it, its easy
Okay, now explain how

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Do people honestly take all this shit seriously? Like holy shit every time I come on co it's nothing but middle school level drama and rumors with zero evidence or proof of anything. This board is worse than cgl.

I don't have connections, I prefer steady employment with a low profile, and honestly I'm pretty off-putting and obnoxious.

>>153172988
One of the women is Asian so it balances out.

>>153185656
Don't worry. Zach and Michael are going to rape them tomorrow.

>>153178319
Nepotism doesn't necessarily preclude the hire from not being skilled.

>>153173404
>arthoes
>code for no basic life skills and poor, will fuck any guy that has $5 and 10k IG followers while living with their parents or many roommates in mid-thirties
>will eventually put all their stress on you

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>>153180931
ADL hassled them because of Zach's comments on OneyPlays. Neither wanted to end it, but it had to end because of that.

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>>153172988
Based Zach and Mike not hiring minorities

>>153181522
>They likely wanted an ATHF/Family Guy type of fandom
Well if that was their real goal then why the are the jokes in sf so weak compared to ATHF then ?

>>153182300
Jesus, what's wrong with Zach's face? It's like that alien from Men in Black wearing an Edgar suit.

>>153189525
someone poured boiling milk on his skull as a child.

>>153182300
Honestly I'm glad Hellbenders didn't get picked up when they pitched it, shit aged horribly. Chris and Zach today making it would've been 10x fucking better, granted Chris can't finish a project for the fucking life of him.

>>153171964
>korean animators
I thought zach and michael were completely against that?

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>>153172856
You can but Zack and Michael are lying scumbags.

>>153172511
That's what the industry is about. You have to be social. If you're an artist and you want to work with the boys or something. You have to he active enough where they recognize you. Draw fan art and interact with what they post.

>>153172763
>>153172797
Oneyplays fags are in denial. They're also people who like to claim them in their own political camps because they're friends with gays and trannies yet call black people nggers.

>>153191187
they're the only race of people who can still animate traditional animation
do you have any idea how expensive it would be to actually animate a cartoon in-house

>>153181416
I always wondered about that too.

I wanna give Zach more credit, since he seems to have principles and decency.

But then again, it is LA and Adult Swim we are talking about.
Many skeletons in many closets.

>>153172901
Yes.

>>153182360
He always did. Wouldn't be surprised if he has some English ancestry at this point and he's actually a distant cousin to Boris or something.

>>153172981
>>153172996
Then why did they make it a safe internet show? Add some chud humor like old oneyplays then.

>>153172988
That's why the show is good retards. Women can't make shit.

>>153182927
I'm sorry about that, man.
How are things these days?

>>153191739
>That's what the industry is about
it's every fucking industry damn near. introverts and neurotic people/shut ins are universally hated. humans are by large social animals and you are seen as a fucking weirdo if you hate socializing and people in general. life and the system of society in general is not built for us to find success. especially if you can't fake enthusiasm and positive emotions during socializing.

>>153173519
So you want them to do industry nepotism? Because these give people a chance by hiring this way.

>>153176076
>>153177330
Atlanta is nothing like LA. It's easier and cheaper to move there.

>>153179294
Teach me your ways.

>>153185410
Not that anon but people don't actually want sex as much as they claim to, because it's simple with no standards, but when you break it down most people have pretty high standards, because these options are never good enough for them.
>Be willing to have sex with the woman who is basically the town bicycle.
>If she cops the haughty attitude pop back, and she's probably still down to fuck
>"I'd rock your fucking world, so you're missing out, your loss, but have a nice night babe."
>Yeah that shit works.
>Dating apps
>"Only looking for hookups, no strings attached, no questions"
>No standards
>Outside of dating apps agree to threesome, cuck (I guess the 'bull' literally, you're not the one being cucked), or be a partner to a couple with an open marriage
>Will probably range older a lot of the time
>If you're young as shit you're prime real estate for anyone over around 35+, and you're ideal as there's no way you run in the same circles
>Pick any weird fetish, and go where they are at the moment to meet them, if it's still fetlife go there.
In general, even at parties, festivals, or clubs if you're just upfront about 'I'm only looking for hookups,' and if the woman says 'no,' and you say 'okay, have a nice night' she still might bite, or even be willing to hook you up with a friend who does do hookups. Doing this last suggestion requires actual social skills though. If you don't throw a tantrum over rejection a lot of women think you're hot, and if they're the bitchy type you have to one liner back.

>>153178213
Rick and Morty is bad because Roiland isn't working on it. He made the show. Who cares if he liked teenage girls nothing is good to be done about Epstien anyway.

>>153185410
Hire a prostitute.

>>153185069
Then hire a prostitute.

>>153180821
Hire a prostitute.

>>153172511
>>153187424
How the fuck is that nepotism? You work on something, people like it, and then you get hired to work on more things. That's just literal positive career advancement.

>>153179126
Well of they're so fufiled and did everything guess it's time for them to an hero.

>>153179569
Burn out from what? Just have Charlie say slurs.

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>>153192292
>>153192300
>>153192307
You've made your point, anon.

>>153179761
>>153180844
You don't need talent or connections for it. That's why it's indie retard. Zack has always done indie animation. What do you think Newgrounds and YouTube cartoons are?

>>153182883
That's what makes him sexy though. Him fucking me in the ass and cumming inside of me with his brute dumb guy strength.

>>153189936
Disagree. Hellbenders is still funny and Smiling Friends is too tame. The humor of tbe 90s and 2000s was the best and it should stay that way. That qas it's peak and moving away from that is why comedy and art sucks now.

>>153191848
Just get off of the internet. I'm antisocial too but having a positive mindset is better when you're not online and worrying about weirdos.

Great vid.

>>153192477
Actually being online is fine as long as you can not look at and ignore the things that make you upset. Just do the social stuff and block annoying cunts.

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Is this supposed to be Adult Swim/WB pushing the team to produce seasons too fast

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They gave Cusack three shows at the same time, is there a single soul out there who's even seen Koala Man? I've seen more people talk about Yolo and that doesn't seem to get much attention either

>>153192612
Damo and Darren are in Koala Man. It's fun.

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>talented cartoonist who likely carried more of the load for Smiling Friends than Michael who had other shows
>could very easily get his own show greenlit
>people beg him to go back to being a funny screaming lets player instead

Insane.
They didn't even set up a meeting to discuss this with the crew. They got an email and that was that. Zach and michael are way colder than I thought

>>153173666
In the video the animators were hired for the show by the showrunners. Adult Swim just picks up shows not employees, from what I can tell

>>153175648
The guy seems pretty solid. How often do shows get a work horse like him anyway. If you find one, best hold on to them

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>>153192612
The fact Michael Cusack was pumping out TWO other shows while Smiling Friends was in production (along with Crocodile and Cube and Damo and Darren) leads me to believe he would've been just fine making SF Seasons 4 and 5, just with a slightly more hands-off approach.

This was all Zach's idea, and Michael simply went along with it to appease his co-showrunner who's too much of a perfectionist and insisted Smiling Friends had "already peaked."

>>153191753
that's kinda disappointing to hear, I vaguely recall that zach said all of the animations is done by animators here in the states, they weren't going to outsource

>>153171964
Still not the youngest.

Big City Greens hired a 17 year old that is now directing.

>>153193021
SF outsourced to studios in multiple countries and to their own studio zam

>>153192560
This is the same Adult Swim that allowed Venture Bros and Rick and Morty to have years between season premiers, so I doubt it's that

>>153172511
>Aspies have immense difficulty understanding what networking is

>>153172901
Zach is a manlet

>>153193148
This. I'm sure had they asked to take a hiatus or for longer deadlines instead of pumping out new seasons annually, Adult Swim would've allowed it. What they ultimately did in the end just feels... slimy.

>>153192612
>>153192612
I watched Koala man. It was alright. I'd probably watch another season if he made it.

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>>153193445
>I watched Koala man.
You and, like, 7 other people.

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>>153179927
He still got a hell of an experience out of it and some friendships that'll last longer than the series proper. That's what matters most. I do appreciate the acknowledgement that the ending WAS sudden and screwed over some of his colleagues, though, even if brief.

>>153171964
I'm lazy

>>153175738
>>153177276
I don't understand how fans of that show are so dumb they can't even comprehend the show they like.

>>153195899
I completely shut out TADC from day one because Kevin Temmer is the lead animator and that Delete This Tweet skit he made was so horrendous it made me want him to get cancer.

>>153192729
I can live without smiling friends, I cant live without "hey tomar, what if evil witch turned you into a little worm, what would you do?"

>>153180844
>Plus he HATES the type of people that really like indie animations
who cares. if people like your stuff, why does it matter what kind of people they are? just don't interact with them on social media like goose was doing. zach had the foresight to delete all of his anti-sjw and pro-jontron stuff from twitter when he was getting his foot in the door.

>>153179198
>They would've forced Smiling Friends to stay in production if that were the case.
That's not the case and not how they work, Michael Ouweleen is for the most parts hands off on the creation side of things and seems to think more is better so I can't seem him forcing content just because.

>>153180004
What an impressively terrible design. I can see what they were going for, but it doesn't work. The semi realistic faces on the stupid looking bodies was obviously done as a way to cut on animation, but who could ever get excited about yet another comedy central show that revolves around politicians. You have to look at something like this and understand right away that there's no chance it will be any good.

>>153196884
I don't even think what anon said is true because Zach has been doing cameos in indie shows for a while, including TADC

>>153191739
>That's what the industry is about. You have to be social.
The industry is about making visual art for corporations, not schmoozing.
The best artists I've worked with have been Introverts. The really socially performative ones were never as talented. They used their social skills to schmooze their way into the industry but they are also insecure because they know they are not as good.

>>153197062
>The industry is about making visual art for corporations, not schmoozing.
a ton of people went on to make their own cartoons because they networked by working on fishhooks or adventure time

>>153171964
>annoying youtuber voice: "haHA woOOOOOAAAAH GUYZZ SO ERM... I KINDA BECAME THE SMILING FRIENDS DIRECTOR???"
If I was Zach and Michael and saw the future of my show being under the creative supervision of people like this, I woulda bailed too.

>>153171964
So what. The show is ending now.

>>153172988
As it should. Back in the ye old days of gaming it was a team of white dudes making games. Now its fat, gay brown women and trannies.

>>153197062
If you share decent art enough you basically can’t avoid the industry people’s attention, it doesn’t matter how introverted you are in real life

>>153180895
he used to look like ass too

>>153180931
isn't that evil larry ellison guy buying warner bros or whatever? maybe zachs hitler dagger started glowing blue

>>153193502
some of these look straight out of rick and morty, the rest, goanimate

>>153197676
>i was a baby, 19 years old
i do wish people would just fucking talk normally again one day

>>153171964
I’m not an immoral California freak.