Remember when this and Cars 1 were still considered Pixar's worst movies?
>>153173479I like both these movies way more than WALL·E and Up
>>153173479why is a bug's life considered the worst? it's a great movie. i like a bug's life more than>lightyear>onward>the good dinosaur>toy story 4>incredible 2>cars 3>turning red
>>153173596nta I think at the time it got a lot of flak by film snobs as being "Seven Samurai for kids".
>>153173479God I want to fuck heimlich so bad
>>153173479God I wanna fuck flik and atta so so bad
>>153173479When was bug’s life considered a bad pixar movie?
>>153173596It was considered one of the worst before all that shit you posted came out, retard
>>153173579Up is definitely worse than Cars and A Bug's Life, everything after the first montage sequence is mediocre.
>>153174145Are you aware being the worst of golden age Pixar and being bad are completely different things?
It's the most lied about Pixar film. People that offer negative comparisons to Seven Samurai blatantly have never seen that film. People who offer comparisons to communism are frankly hallucinating. Other criticisms of this film are a various hodgepodge of shallow thoughts parroted from the Nostalgia Critic or whatever else. It's very rare to see actual genuine appreciate for this film, but it appears sometimes. Of Pixar's first 5 films, I would evaluate it as the 2nd best.
>>153174162i'm the retard for saying a genuinely great film does not deserve to be called the worst? even not comparing it to other pixar films, it's still a good movie and does not deserve to be shitted on because it isn't some therapy session for middle-aged men going through midlife crises like the Incredibles
>>153174145Pretty much just after it came out coming off of Toy Story 1. There was a lot of hype. Then it was smooth sailing until Cars.
>>153174247>some therapy session for middle-aged men going through midlife crises like the IncrediblesShut it
>>153174203>People who offer comparisons to communism are frankly hallucinating.That's a new one for me. Is it the collective labor and overthrowing an unjust ruling group?
>>153174283hit dogs holler and i don't know why this film gets all the bad threads while lightyear is allowed to live scot free
>>153174247Way to miss the point of Incredibles entirely.
>>153174344enlighten me, o great oneif it's not about bob reliving the glory days for 2/3rds of the film, then what is it about
>movie about how the workers could easily rise up and overthrow the elites is considered badHmm. Really makes me think.
>>153174247No, you're a retard for thinking being called one of the worst means it's being shit on, when it was just the weakest out of all the classic Pixar films. There will always have to be something in last place.
>>153174400then put cars in last place, then
>>153174415Everyone pretty much does. Even OP says "this and Cars 1"
>>153174359Ok. Since you asked. It's NOT just about Bob's problems. It's about his whole family. They all have problems. Helen is balancing identity as a mother vs. an individual, Violet struggles with insecurity and self confidence, Dash feels constrained and wants to express his abilities.The much bigger theme is society suppressing individuality, pushing exceptional people into conformity. The villain reflects a distorted version of the same issue. Bob wants to reclaim greatness. Syndrome wants to manufacture it and control it. That contrast turns the story into a debate about what “being special” really means. That's the bigger theme. A midlife crisis is just the starting point. Bob’s problem isn’t just that he’s unfulfilled, it’s also that he’s selfish at times. His secret hero work hurts his family. The film doesn’t validate his behavior blindly, it forces him to grow past it.
it was all downhill when Steve Jobs left
>>153174549that's fine and all but you know im right that a bug's life isn't the worst
>>153174648What's with the autistic seethe over people preferring The Incredibles over Bug's Life?
>>153174648Oh, yeh, I agree with you there. I wasn't the anon suggesting that.
>>153174675I didn't actually say that.
Ok, so... most underrated Pixar movie?
>>153174544why is this bad again? It was one of my favourite cartoons as a kid, why is everybody on the internet shitting on it?
>>153173596Cars 3 isn't even that bad, besides the ending which felt a bit rushed
>>153174917NTA but I remember not liking it much as a kid due to the monkey/lemur characters, the main character being lame as fuck and the overall plot being basically a rehash of Land Before Time
>>153174917It's ugly
>>153174917I watched it for the first time in 25 years pretty recently, and my opinion is that it's just okay. It feels like it's a movie made for very small children, and I don't mean that in a negative way, but more like as a neutral observation. It has exaggerated emotions, logic, and presentation in a way that it would primarily appeal to 5-7 year old's. If you're older than that it probably doesn't have that much to offer, unless you really love prehistoric atmosphere or very simple films.
>>153174796It's kino
>>153173479When was A Bug's Life EVER deemed "Pixar's worst"? I must've rewatched that one on DVD more than any other back in the day
>>153175162>>153174544>>153174917Peaks in the first 20 minutes with the egg scene and the meteor scene
>>153178729i think it has no controversy at all and that makes it fall back compared to Monsters Inc where you can make Luigi x Health CEO memes about Mr Waternoose
>>153173479>>153174162Was it? Back in the day, I don't remember people talking shit about it, everybody liked it enough.I mean yeah maybe it wasn't as popular as some of the others, but by no means it was considered a bad movie. People enjoyed and talked about it in magazines, you had lunchboxes and stuff with things from the movie, etc.
For some fucking reason Bill Clinton invited the crew of Bug's Life to the White HouseNot for any other movie, not for Toy Story 1, just Bug's LifeCome to think of it, there was also the Bug's Life land at DCA, the main ride at Animal Kingdom was Bug's Life, there's ports of the Bug's Life game to Genesis and SNESWas Bug's Life of all things really that big of a deal?
I think it was a better bug movie than the atrocity that was Antz. Or maybe because it just looked nicer.
>>153180290Now Antz was indeed odd even for the time. I remember I took a while to see it just because of how unappealing the designs looked to me.Ended up watching it anyway after a while, it was alright, but Bug's Life was way better.
>>153173479I remember majority of the 00s era Pixar movies got a pass because Disney was making much worse shit that decade. Everyone could say at least the crappier Pixar movies were still better than Home on the Range.
>>153173479>Cars 1That was never considered bad.
i actually do remember when people used to dunk on antz for being "bad" and at the time i thought they were sorta overreacting. im glad people finally came around to it, its one of my nostalgic memoriesalso the porn of it isnt bad, those ants can GET IT
>>153178729I know zoomers were barely conscious back then, but in the mid 2000s when the only Pixar films were Toy Story, Bug's Life, Toy Story 2, Monsters Inc., Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Cars and Ratatouille, it was widely considered the worst out of all of those along with Cars>>153180247>>153181975Again, why do people think "the worst of the classic Pixar films" means "bad"? Do you not know how language works? "Worst" means the lowest-ranked in comparison to the others options
>>153180277A Bug's Life was screened for Bill Clinton at Camp David.
>>153181975It definitely was back then. I remember critics calling the movie average at best.
>>153181975Doc Hudson my beloved
Antz is awesome
>>153183614I never thought it bad, per se, but I didn't (and still don't) think it had that certain x-factor that other Pixar works did.
>>153178729It was and it still is. And that isn't even a bad thing because all of their movies are incredible.
>>153174544Good Movie
>>153185426objectively wrong, you fucking troglodyte.
>>153182736>"Worst" means the lowest-rankedYes, but the way the thread was set seemed to lead to the implication that it was bad, or at least not good enough.
>>153187518>Yes, but the way the thread was set seemed to lead to the implication that it was bad, or at least not good enough.thank you, these fuckers want to act stupid and pretend they're not calling the film bad
>>153173479A Bug's Life does have some pretty sexy female cast though.
Bugs life is a good movie but every other golden age Pixar movie mogs it.
>>153173479A Bug's Life is 10,000x better than Wall E and Cars 1, both incredibly low bars to clear. Wall E fans are hands down the most delusional Pixar fans, and are in complete denial about the quality of their sacred cow.
I never understood why Cars got memed into being "the bad Pixar movie". I always though it was on par with every other pre-Up movie.
>>153173769Film snobs of forty-somethings nowadays loves this movie so much because they saw it when they we're younger.
>>153174171This zoomer revisionism for Cars needs to fucking stop now.
>>153174917Because it's hyper-photorealistic animation and I hate that with a passion because I'm a cartoonfag who thinks the Looney Tunes and Ren & Stimpy and Spumcø-like animation are the only REAL valid forms of animation, and for all of that this movie is atrocius. I even dare to say that this movie is the worse Disney animated movie ever, even worse than Chicken Little and Wish.
>>153182736>Zoomers zoomers zoomers You're not an interesting person like you seem to think, Robert.
>>153182345Antz was the movie that Bug's Life pretended to be and failed at that.
>>153185203Antz was great.
>>153190421>Wall E fans are hands down the most delusional Pixar fans, and are in complete denial about the quality of their sacred cowWhat a weird way of spelling Ratatouille.
>>153173579>more than WALL·EYou lost me.
>>153190429because it was obvious that Pixar was executing a long term business strategy of having a race car to put on backpacks for mexican children for the next 20 years
>>153190916I really don't get why Wall.E is so forgotten nowadays while hideous garbage like Ratatouille is forced praised in our throats to this day like it was sorta a classic masterpiece when in reality, objectively speaking, it's not.
>>153174202>"golden age Pixar">Implying they had any good era
>>153173479
>>153191003True
Bump
>>153190967Based.
>>153173479A Bug's Life was shit
>>153196487You fucking wish
>>153185203Antz is A Bug's Life but good.
>>153173579Based
>>153174202I saw it in theaters and had all the toys. I think my replica of the bird is still hanging up in one of my little brother's rooms. I never met anyone who had a bad thing to say about Bugs Life, especially because the popular thing to do was to pivot to saying: "Oh, did you see Antz, too? That one sucked!"
>>153197458Well what do you consider to be the golden era of pixar? I'd say it's everything before, but not including, cars.
>>153174400As an adult I'll admit it's a bit lackluster compared to Toy Story 1 & 2, Monsters Inc, and Finding Nemo but would still put it above Cars, and The Incredibles(I consider Ratatouille the start of "new Pixar" even though it's probably Wall-E or Up. All of which I put below A Bug's Life still.) As a kid I would've put it above Monster's Inc and Finding Nemo, as well.
>>153197492It's hard to say. Part of me wants to cut it off at Finding Nemo, but yours works pretty well, as well. If nothing else by the time you get to Ratatouille we've entered a new era.
No matter what, it was always going to be difficult to follow up on Toy Story 1, which was pretty much a perfect film and a very rare example of something that was viewed as an instant classic upon release. But their efforts were very good.
>>153173479I was so autistic about this movie as a kid I watched it several times per day
>>153197691My aunt used to babysit me and my sister when we were kids, and because my cousin was obsessed with toy story, we would watch that literally every single day during the summer. I got sick of it, but now I can still watch in any day any enjoy it.
This thread really is an English test with how many assume worst=bad.
