I really enjoyed reading his newsletter every week. He's a thoughtful guy and it was an interesting look at how the sausage is made. Even if I didn't agree with him in many cases. But you could tell when he took this assignment on, even just how he spoke about it, that it was a bad, misguided idea. The way he looked at it was wrong. And as it came to pass, when the books came out, he got darker, as if he knew it was sorta DOA. Then he cancelled the newsletter altogether.

>>153182596
>Then he cancelled the newsletter altogether.
He did it to himself the moment he glazed AI image generation

>>153182576
>He's STILL pushing for solo books for characters that are appearing in team books despite admitting that they'll have zero impact on anything happening in the team books and are effectively filler made so that the X-Office can hit their threshold of how many issues that they have to release every month
That's kind of sad
Hopefully Clawless Wolverine throws a wrench into Uncanny

>>153182576
>The newest X-Event DNX has NEGATIVE hype because all of the previous crossovers and events that he has helmed are regarded as some of the worst in X-Book history
What? First time I hear of it.

>>153182576
the retards who prefer krakoa are literal tumblrite trannies on a power trip who loved seeing the x-men become everything they hated because they want to be that.
In the end chuck was facepalming because they really became all they hated and became degenerates, even Arrako shouldn't exist either and he let it happen.

In fact, all of this is yidsney's fault who ruined both inhumans and Mutants altogether because of some shittily written movies that cant draw a dime anymore

>>153183358
>Clawless Wolverine

kek. thats the big story idea?!

>>153183613
Beastschizo pls

>>153184060
>beastschizo
not even him you fucking tranny piece of shit

>>153182596
>when the books came out, he got darker, as if he knew it was sorta DOA

The problem is From the Ashes was a bigger failure than Krakoa. The only books really doing well is Uncanny, Wolverine and Adjectiveless. Jordan at least got X-Force and I guess Marauders to sell. Well here everything from FtA is dead in the ground or has to be relaunched just to get above the cancellation threshold that Cebulski and Buckely implemented. And AoR was a big nothingburger to everyone despite the ending.

>>153182576
Brevoort doesn’t have the sensibilities necessary for X-Men. He’s much more at home with something like Avengers with the “golly gosh darn” attitude and more traditional super heroics. The X-Men require a more harder edge, if the Avengers are PG the X-Men needs to be a PG-13 and that’s something I just don’t think Brevoort can wrap his brain around. Also a Jubilee solo? What the fuck

>>153184210
>he wants muties to be related with tumblr
and DC will bury the line again with marvel asking why the books doesnt sell anymore

With the exception of the Messiah saga and Uncanny X-Force, X-Men has been pretty much dead in the water since the Age of Apocalypse days. I let it go a long time ago. The Krakoa era only solidified that decision. It's a faggot mag nowadays.

>>153184123
Ok take your meds now

>>153184182
>And AoR was a big nothingburger to everyone despite the ending.
Oh, it already ended?

>>153184470
It ended on the last week of 2025

>>153184542
wtf

>>153184182
I think editorial AND FANS need to accept that the days of the X-line having 6 to 8 monthly books is OVER. And this nostalgia that everyone has is really for a few creators who were bursting with enough ideas to make it work.

X Factor: it was PAD's baby and he's gone. There's no juice left in any retread of the "mutant detective agency" premise. Theres even less juice in the "working for the government" idea. And we're too far gone to ever make the 05 interesting as a team again.

Excalibur: that was all Claremont and Davis. "Capt Britain and the British mutants" is just a retread now.

New Mutants: again, that was Claremont's baby. And those characters now exist in this limbo of arrested development where they never got to become the lead X Men (similar problem to Wolfman's NTT and the Justice League)

"Student X team": there's such a logjam between Generation X - Academy X - Generation Hope - Young X Men - NYX - Exceptional. Too many characters, impossible to manage

The only spinoff that seems to have legs is X Force but Brevoort is creating diminishing returns on that. Current volume is okay but the Kamala bait and switch is annoying.

In the current economy, the X line can really only sustain: Uncanny + Adjectiveless (doing a Blue & Gold split), a Wolverine solo, a Cable & X Force edgy book. and I guess a Deadpool solo has to be included, even though Wade is his own beast.

A better Marvel editorial would have X characters sprinkled throughout the MU: Storm on the Avengers is actually a good idea. Maybe Magik & Moonstar could be on a Defenders/Midnight Sons spooky book. Ewing was the only writer who carried through on Hickman's wishes having Sam & Bobby on his New Avengers team

>>153185252
adding on: i know this board is now loathe to ever admit any positives from the Quesada era BUT I look back on that Morrison era as the last time they were trying new idea with the X line as a whole, even the spinoffs.

Claremont had his corner with Xtreme, there were new spinoffs with District X, Exiles, X Statix, revamping Cable & Deadpool as Soldier X and Agent X, even McKeever's Sentinel. Something like BKV/McKeever's Mystique was able to run for 2 years bc the premise worked, it wasn't just trying to fill some quota of X books that need to exist "just because"

this board is not going to give Hickman credit but that very first wave of six Krakoa books was refreshing. It re-used titles because they needed to reinforce trademarks but the premises were new and distinct enough, not just milking 90s nostalgia

>>153185252
>X Factor: it was PAD's baby and he's gone. There's no juice left in any retread of the "mutant detective agency" premise
There IS juice in it, Moon Knights shows there is they just have to actually commit to the bit and not just drop it for the usualy X-men thing of fighting various anti mutant nazis

>Excalibur: that was all Claremont and Davis. "Capt Britain and the British mutants" is just a retread now.
Can also work if they again lean into the bit, focus on magic and weird bullshit and avoid the constant fighting of mutant hating humans and even mutant hating non-humans

Seriously have the orbiting squads do shit that the mainline teams don't and actually foster a fanbase instead of demanding everything be an instant smash hit

>>153185252
>>153185419
>they hated him because he told the truth

>>153185252
I actually agree. I think X-books and readership have been fading for awhile demographically. Hickman wasn't able to change the underlyng math though he probably did undo some of the damage by corporate/Perlmutter to screw the X-Men because of their beef with Fox.

>Maybe Magik & Moonstar could be on a Defenders/Midnight Sons spooky book. E

I think Magik has a good chance eventually of being sorcerer supreme given how every major magic user has had a chance at the title (Clea, Strange, Voodoo, Wanda, Doom!)

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>>153186026
>I think Magik has a good chance eventually of being sorcerer supreme
She already has in another reality. Knowing editorial, it’s only a matter of time until it happens again…

>>153185419
>it wasn't just trying to fill some quota of X books that need to exist "just because"
This. Hard this. I really don’t think any family of books should have more than four books, one for each week, but the current X-book output is fucking ridiculous. Like I get that Marvel’s current strategy is to just shotgun out as many books as possible to make sure they get the market share but whoever comes in next hopefully understands quality is more important than quantity

>>153186074
They seem interested in everyone but Strange being sorcerer supreme so it's possible

>>153185958
I think you're too optimistic. I'm not sure what can still be done with the premises of X Factor or Excalibur that isn't just aping what Claremont, Davis and PAD already did first.

Who would round out the casts? whats the overarching story hook?

mmmmmaybe you could get away with X Factor being the "street level mutants" book and Excalibur being the "magic mutants" book but in order to really give them juice, they have to be radically re-developed beyond those initial pitch lines.

Like Excalibur should be Magik's book, where her and Moonstar and some edgy dark characters fight magic & mystic threats.
OR you bring back Capt Britan and just make it the new version of Exiles exploring the multiverse (which is already something Claremont did in the late 2000s)

ditto for X Factor: you have to make it feature, like, Cloak and Dagger and Typhoid Mary. As much as I love Madrox and his merry misfits, that era is over. PAD wrote a great book and got to end it on his terms, even when he tried to revamp it with "All New X Factor" it still suffered from Marvel needing a book just because and trying to shove it into a premise that had already been done

>>153186077
>I really don’t think any family of books should have more than four books, one for each week

I agree. Its not the 50s, the 80s or the 90s anymore. Floppies cost $5 a pop. Society is different, culture is different, economics are different.
Comic fans can't keep up with a shared universe anymore because the entry point is just too costly. Instead of 20 books at $5 each, you have to go for less books, create more bang for your buck.

The proof is in stuff like the Energon U, even Spawn U is that more or less - although Todd did get indulgent with the spinoffs and minis.

Absolute DC expanding to 6 and soon to 8 books is probably the maximum amount a line should go, and thats' reserved for the biggest, most hyped imprint in American comics.

If I was running Marvel or DC, I would shepherd every ongoing into families of books, and aim to have one book from that family published every week. So if you're an X Men fan, there's a new book on the shelves every week. If you like Spidey, you could do bi-weekly ASM with Venom & Black Cat on the off-weeks. Apply the same philosophy for everything: the cosmic line, the street line, the horror line.

If you're a fan of a certain character or team, you could keep up with the current storylines for $20 a month... and if you have the disposable income, that might make you feel more inclined to spend *more* on something extra from another comic, another character, another publisher.

I’m so far behind on X-books, I’m about to start AOR and it’s like pulling teeth. I think McKay and Ewing are actually doing ok but the rest of the line is bad and the crossovers kill momentum

>>153186074
>>153186026
honestly as much as synergy sucks, I think Marvel should lean into Rivals synergy... in the sense that some new character are breaking out with normies and there's new costume designs and art styles that are catching on.

Create a new book called, like, "X-Terminators" and the roster is just: Magik, Psylocke, White Queen, Gambit, Rogue & Wolverine. Sexy art. Bad girls with swords. Would probably have a better shot at catching on than the nth retread of the 90s

>>153186444
I'm personally convinced that AoR is a repackage of Hickman's original plan for HoXPoX and that Doug/Warlock was the real villain JDW alluded to that nobody would believe and that they were going to assimilate everyone into a Dominion, which kind of happens at the end of AoR was Revelation becoming a biological Worldmind/Titan/Dominion

>>153186493
I disagree purely because inviting Rivals fans is like asking to be raped by a man in a dress with ten variations of AIDS but I can’t deny that you probably have a point

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>>153186493
Marvel missed the mark by not making this ongoing and just doing this team for as long as it has juice.

>>153183613
>Arrako
We can only hope a future event have Mars surface on fire and everyone on it dead

>>153186303
I was more speaking in broader terms. The big issue with the X-men is that "All X-men stories are the same". They made fun of it a few years ago but didn't do shit to change it.
Without fail an X-men story will devolve into four story archtypes
>The team has to deal with anti mutant bigots of various human, machine, magical or alien origin but they all hate them because they're mutants
>The team has to protect a group of mutants from the above
>The team takes in their own squad of New Mutants to do the above two
>Inevitably the squad of X-men have a civil war with another squad of X-men
What I want is an X-book that genuinely commits to it's bit. Yes at some point they're gonna have to fight racists and have conflict with another team. Yes you need new characters but goddamn just let a premise hold for longer than a six issue arc

>>153186896
I think the problem is most of the writers default to the racist angle, but the racism is so toothless/comical that it lacks any pathos, which makes the whole conflict fall flat.

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>>153184210
I'd say Brevoort's problem is that his run is nostalgic for the Schism-era and keeps bringing up the raw wound of Krakoa when it seems like most people - judging by the trade and backissue sales and the initial hype over X-Men 97 before it lost the plot - want the X-Men as superheroes again. No more of this morally gray bullshit, back to protecting a world that hates and fears them.

>>153186651
bleedingcool basically confirmed this:

>Who Were The New X-Men And Why Did Marvel Change Plans In Ten Days?

>At San Diego Comic-Con, the Designing the X-Men: A This Week in Marvel Special Event Marvel panel with C.B. Cebulski, Jordan D. White, Sarah Brunstad teased "New X-Men" for 2024. While stating that we will get a sneak peek of whoever they are in November.

>At the time, Bleeding Cool had already run news about the then-coming Fall of X, asking what kind of world will the New X-Men be playing out on. But we never learned of what this title was meant to be.

>In his most recent Substack newsletter, Tom Brevoort, Executive Editor and SVP at Marvel, and new Group Editor of the X-Men, revealed what happened. "Honest answer here… is that this would have led into something that Jordan White would have been putting together in the post-Krakoa period had he remained on the X-Line—he had started to develop some thoughts as to where to take things next before we made our editorial switch. So it's a casualty of me taking over. Sorry about that."

>The Big Marvel X-Men Gossip From San Diego Comic-Con (Spoilers)
>And now I hear that at this year's Hellfire Gala, even as Ms Marvel is returned from the dead as a mutant, Orchis will announce that they will switch from hunting mutants to killing humans. And that for every mutant found on Earth, Orchis will kill an increasing number of humans. And they mean it.

>Faced with this ultimatum, and fearing populist revolt, Professor Xavier telepathically commands that all mutants evacuate from the Earth, using Krakoan gates or other means. Only those with psychic training to resist such a command do so. With the only remaining mutants on Earth being the X-Men and other trained or immune forces, the mutants have lost. They have gone. But at least they went out with a big wedding and a party…

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>>153187579
that "heir of apocalypse" mini was their way of salvaging those JDW plot threads but basically Revelation was going to lead the new mutant nation on Arrako on Mars

its why the "New X Men" teaser had an Age of Apocalypse font

>>153185252
>similar problem to Wolfman's NTT and the Justice League
No, the problem was that Wolfman was stripped of his editorial power over the book and instead start following others ideas. That basically killed the appeal of the book.

>>153186796
Crazy that Gomez was fucking Williams then she schizoed out when he stopped

>>153187360
I meant more of the attitude of the ‘90s X-Men than Krakoa, not really morally gray just more hard-hitting action, ass kicking, and sexiness. I really didn’t follow Krakoa that much, I dipped when Hickman left which was pretty soon into it

>>153183613
Krakoa was based.
Mutants were finally winning.
Now it’s back to the same slop. Boring as hell.

>>153188306
What this now about Gomez and Leah?

>>153182576
This meme is more entertaining than X-men comics of the last 25 years

>>153189076
>Winning
>Becoming literally a tumblr fanfic

>>153185252
X-Force hasn't had a reason to exist in a long time. You can't do "edgy black ops X-Men murdering the shit out of their enemies" when the regular X-Men have been doing that for years at this point. That's not even getting into the logical issues of X-Force versus the X-Men.

>>153189076
Krakoa was the mutants heel turn, them turning into Israel and going against the world. It was an awesome idea wasted by retards who thought it was a good thing to team up with Apocalypse and all your other villains to make an ethnostate.

>>153187360
The black homo could have saved this entire IP if he didn't act so psychotic. I wouldn't be surprised if '97 S2 ended up being as bad as the modern comics.

>>153186896
>>153186980
They need to have the balls to put out a storyline where the problem is 100% mutants. Like a storyline where some edgelord mutant teens are on an escalating crime spree where the X-Men are playing catch up, and they are freely abusing psychic and technopathic powers to cover up the crimes were done by mutants who are blatantly committing hate crimes.

>>153186493
If they lean into Marvel Rivals, they'll probably bring Krakoa back since its a thing in the game.

That being said, I feel like Krakoa will be a thing again much sooner than expected

>>153189076
don't worry anon there's gonna be a second Krakoan Age that'll sell like shit after year 1

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>>153185252
If x can't handle 6 books then marvel itself can't run 6 titles in total, dumb argument. The problem isn't the titles its then making complete irredeemable doshit. Imagine comparing this to fucking claremont.

>>153190199
Or have them do actual super hero shit and relatable drama

>>153190199
They do that with Empath stories all the time.
And the X-Men always bust his chops while reminding Emma she’s the one that enabled him.

Repeat after me: Krakoa was the best era since the 90s.

>>153189123
They used to fuck. Didn't work out. She soured on him then canceled him when he had that anti migrant sperg out a few months ago.

>>153190712
YWNBAW

>>153184182
I have to assume we have hit the bottom of what Wolverine will be at because it stinks only slightly less than Ahmid's Daredevil

>>153184210
>He’s much more at home with something like Avengers with the “golly gosh darn” attitude and more traditional super heroics.

Is he really? Because he was also editing Avengers when Bendis was doing his run and Hickman was doing his run

>>153192448
Brevoort left to his own devices was happy doing Busiek and Johns Avengers. Bendis and the New Avengers retooling was forced on him. Might have been the same deal with Hickman.
https://sktchd.com/longform/avengers-disassembled-oral-history/
>Brevoort: The conversation came around to Avengers and it went hot and heavy fast. And the reason it went hot and heavy fast as much as anything was Mark (Millar) and Brian were both there.

>Bendis: Mark and I both had strong takes on what team books are and what they should be.

>Brevoort: What Mark said essentially was, “When I was a kid growing up, I would buy Justice League of America. The reason I would buy Justice League of America is I would get all the best superheroes in one story. Why is it that the Avengers doesn’t have all the best guys in it?” And this became the conversation that dominated this setup.

>Bendis: My bugaboo from when I was a kid was, “Why aren’t Spider-Man and Wolverine on the Avengers? Why aren’t the Avengers the six coolest people in the Marvel Universe?”

>By the end of that conversation, (Brevoort’s) blood looked like it was boiling.

>Brevoort: Here’s a room of people, most of whom have nothing to do with my book and have had nothing to do with a book that I’ve been having to put out and push without having access to the same kind of resources or the same kind of support that other stuff did, sitting around saying, “Well, it should be completely different, and why is it like this?” So, my back was up from the jump, and I argued back on all these points.

>Bendis: He already has a Bluto from Popeye look to him, and it looked like steam was coming out of his ears like Bluto from Popeye. He was not enjoying me and (Mark) just going, “They could be cooler if they were this, and we know what cool is.” That’s not what we meant. But it certainly was coming off that way.

>>153193263
Bendis just essentially calling his boss fat and ugly is kinda funny but also shows how these people never have any social awareness to how childish they sound.
Also the only thing that got hot and heavy was when Brevoort had to get up and take a few paces around the room. That takes a lot of energy.

>>153193263
>>153193380
Tee bee eff growing up in the 90s I always thought the Avengers were corny with their bylaws and ID cards and charters and all that shit and wasn’t interested until Bendis literally blew them up.

>>153193263
>Mark Millar and Bendis are the reason why the Busiek/Johns Avengers ended.
Busiek Avengers was my favorite run, I thought it was cool and I never wanted it to end. Bendis and Millar were wrong.

>>153193557
So? I'm younger than you and I will admit if I grew up in that time, I might have felt the same way. Yet, that spectacle shit like Disassembled is why these comics suck now. Children can just flock to other characters like you did with X-Men and then you move up to Avengers or seek stuff that is different once you get tired of certain things. But nah, Bendis said we need shallow drama for everyone now and that generated attention and short term sales boost that wrecked the consistency of their world and books. Yes, the novelty of Wolverine and Spidey on the Avengers could have been alright but nah, even as a kid I thought that shit was lame after thinking about and having to be tied down to them. Like why would you want Spidey to be beholden to them and their problems? Anyway, I think comics in general could have achieved more attention if instead of large events and cheap drama, they just updated their senses of action and took ideas that improved the expectation people had of creative action/choreography. That might not be true but it sure as hell would have gotten a younger me more interested than just constantly seeing poses. George Perez was a god-tier artist but his action never had impact like Manga had and western comics not being able to show blood or real pain just made it lame over time.

>>153184182
The Magik series was a success

Bring back Kieron gillen and matt fraction, bring back San Francisco.

>>153190480
Yeah except that volume of New Mutants still reached 33 issues and is the third longest volume of the title

>>153196719
I think the way Krakoa and his Eternals ended burned Gillian on Big Two cape comics for a while

>>153193263
>Why isn't Wolverine on the Avengers
Because he's already on a team, the popular characters being on multiple teams at once is pathetic bullshit. The only time Wolverine is not going to be an X-man is when he's doing solo shit or off on a tantrum.
>Why isn't Spider-Man on the Avengers
Because he was a hot-headed retard, as he matured he should have joined at some point. Instead he joined Not!Avengers which did not provide the catharsis and joy from readers. Nobody thinks of Spidey as an Avenger despite all the times he has been, because these idiots didn't understand a damn thing.

>>153196753
they cancelled it 2 issues after they put that writer on it.

>>153184210
>X-Men isn't like other Marvel books and can't be like other Marvel books
>X-Men is something special, it has to be something edgier
Jesus, you people are like a cult sometimes.

>>153185958
What I would give to have an X-Men book that was inspired by Doom Patrol.

>>153185252
New Mutants reached 50 issues during the Utopia era and it was one of the longest Krakoa books (33 issues). I think those characters are pretty popular for some reason.
The different new generation books were all also relatively popular, they're just confusing to new readers. We had +100 issues of Generation X over multiple volumes and +50 issues of Academy X

>>153199173
you're not wrong but there's a couple things working against all those characters:
firstly, the current marvel bullpen just doesn't care about them and has no attachment to them.

New Mutants, Gen X, Academy X all have their fanbases (I'm one of them) but their books don't say "X Men" in the title so editorial doesn't care. The days of spinoffs getting anything past 10 issues is dead and never coming back.

Hickman clearly loves the New Mutants, they were the 2nd anchor book with the launch of Krakoa. His original second wave of titles with the "Krakoa is only Act 1" idea included books for the Imperial Guard w Sam & Bobby AND he wanted to do a Gen X book. He said the challenge with the student gens is because the X Men never age up, all the students get compressed together, unable to grow.

In order to give those generations of teams a chance now, you need a Hickman-level A lister who has big plans to "showrun" the X franchise. However most Marvel writers these days are young and idk what their passions are; they seem to only Marvel as a successful movie brand and just want to take the gig to launch their own "creator owned book turned Netflix adaptation"

>>153193380
Bendis is friends with Quesada he literally doesn't have to kiss Brevoort's ass. It's the same with Brubaker, Brevoort had reservations about the idea of Wintere Soldier, but Bru had Quesada in his corner so Brevoort had to do what Quesada/Brubaker wanted.

>>153190293
Krakoa still exists in the White Hot Room as basically a holding space for the mutants that nobody wants to use.

>>153197373
Didn't Busiek had Spidey as a reservist? And I think he doesn't have time since he is poor AF.

>>153199504
Spider-Man was already a reservist for the Avengers from the early 90s
Busiek is just a continuity nut

>>153199504
Spiderman and Daredevil should be reservists Avengers. they got too much stuff to do without adding globetrotting.

>>153199311
This honestly doesn't feel that complicated.
It is simply a matter of getting a good writer in the books. I think too much focus is being put on the editors simply because none of the current writers have a vision or talent, and editors are only in people's mind when things are going wrong. This isn't to say Brevoort isn't a piece of shit (he is), but that the main problem is that they simply aren't hiring strong enough writers

>>153193678
As the article mentions, Johns signing an exclusive contract with DC really screwed over the Avengers book and they had to settle on Chuck Austen's awful comics because he was the only writer Jemas, Quesda, and Brevoort could agree on.
>Brevoort: Geoff (Johns) had signed an exclusive deal with DC, so we had to replace the writer on Avengers. And this was in the middle of the days when (then-Marvel President) Bill Jemas was at his craziest, so I needed to cast somebody that I could get Bill and (then-Marvel Editor-in-Chief) Joe (Quesada) to approve.

>So, we ended up with Chuck (Austen).

>Austen’s first issue was January 2004’s Avengers #77, and his run was troubled from the start. As Brevoort said, “almost every story he did wasn’t really the story he originally pitched by the time it got to the page.” The demands of leadership and Marvel’s own universe resulted in necessary adjustments, something that made delivering a quality title a tricky proposition.

>>153200551
>It is simply a matter of getting a good writer in the books.

this is way easier said then done because...
>none of the current writers have a vision or talent
for the record: its not *all* the writers but the majority of them are going to be sub-par because sub-par writers accept Marvel's poor rates for work-for-hire. You're lucky if you get a Jed McKay or Ben Percy who are not A-listers and not immune from editorial meddling but at least have some kind of passion/spark thats evident in the less-overly-managed B-list books

>>153196960
It's also because the editor that he has a connection with is Jordan White since they worked together on SW and later X-Men but right now Jordan is the Venom editor with Ewing and I don't think he is really in a position to give him more projects.

>Magik was selling incredibly well, much more than anyone expected it to
>Cancel it for AOR, Magik loses momentum, her current book isn't selling quite as much
And this is just one example

>>153186493
>I think Marvel should lean into Rivals synergy.
They're trying it with Iron Fist and the results are less than inspiring

>>153199311
>because the X Men never age up, all the students get compressed together, unable to grow.
Well he's wrong, there's roughly 3 generations. Gen 1 is new mutants through gen x, kitty, yanna, M, jubilee, etc and they're full adults. Gen 2 is morrison era 2000-2005 kids who are breaking into main team books now, cuckoos, quire, armor, prodigy, pixie.

>>153199362
Yeah I don't really care about that and that's not the point moron. If you're saying this shit publicly then it just shows that you're childish. I don't need him to kiss his ass publicly but if you're basically equating your boss who is fat and ugly to a fat and ugly character and saying that to an interviewer then it's not hard to read between the lines and see that Bendis is making fun of him.

>>153204420
It was insulting to Bluto desu

>>153205633
I agree. I just wanted to show the hypocrisy of comic creators who complain about fans when they themselves act this way and the pile of evidence always grows.

>>153202600
Iron Fist fans like Danny Rand and its long proven successful external media doesn't lead to sales boosts. Surely Lin Lie will be a hit.

>>153205773
It's fucking rich to see creators trying to go on the "fans are toxic" soapbox when after seeing how creators act on social media, it comes off more like the call is coming from inside the house

Hell, for all we know, the toxic comments could be coming from people in the industry, using sockpuppet accounts and shit. People getting those insults and threats may not even know it's really coming from

>>153199378
I know, but Marvel will probably create a new version of it or bring back the original from the White Hot Room at some point.

RAPE TOM BREVOORT

>>153206020
what will you do afterwards?

>>153205838
>>153205838
Does anyone have the image saying that when they become a comic writer they'll ruin it for everyone

>>153206490
RAPE HIM AGAIN

>>153182576
X-Men has never been good.