Honestly curious on what you guys think. I have never seen a show get this much support and backing from CN and yet fail in the long run.
>>153186962Rebecca Sugar is just a fanfiction writing hack. Simple as.
The show only ended because Rebecca sabotaged it on purpose. It was successful.
I want to stick my penis inside Pearl and Peridot and Blue Diamond and also some of the other characters but especially those ones.
>>153186962Why'd they give it a show before Ok Ko? Their other shows around this time weren't very girly.
>>153186962It was supported by government money i.e. Usaid and whoever was pushing the "antiracism" garbage.Reality: Nobody likes the show. Nobody ever really did. To state the obvious: There's a reason the ponyfags still get art/content despite it being a dead brand.
>>153186962I remember it was well liked and the earlier seasons had more real attention. But it devolved fairly hard presumably as Rebecca and co got more control.
That lazy line to show big plump lips always disgusted me.
>>153187027>It was supported by governmentIs there any proof of this?
>>153187027Wrong
>>153186992Based but especially Blue Diamond and Priyanka
>>153186962Support and backing? It's latter half was destroyed by hiatuses and Steven Bombs so that CN could push the garbage that is TTG.
>>153186995Ian must've helped a lot with the pitch.
>>153187054A whole boatload but this is where you pretend to be retarded. Man, ain't it funny how once ESG wasn't thing anymore that all these virtue signaling garbage shows can't get funding anymore.Speaking of which, wasn't there a Lars spinoff in the works? Guess nobody wants to pay for it anymore for some reason.
It gave us the best chuds
>>153187027MLP is more popular despite being similar in the way they encourage more kinder and accepting behavior because it's way less preachy.Steven Universe isn't the worst example, but it felt like the writers were always winking at you when telling you what's right and wrong. MLP at least gave general advice that is universal.
>>153187112>A whole boatloadSo where is this boatload of evidence? I want the proof?>but this is where you pretend to be retarded.Nigger.
>>153187146>Pretends to be retardedSo, why can't Lars of the stars get funding again?
>>153187027>There's a reason the ponyfags still get art/content despite it being a dead brandThat's because it's furry-adjacent. Franchises with humanoid cartoon women do not attract the same kind of autism as talking animals.
>>153187161WB sold everything to Paramount so the trumps can control the media outlets that noone reads anymore.
>>153187161Because Cartoon Network/Warner is in a really terrible state right now?
>>153187161Evidence, bitch. Post it.I don't even like Steven Universe, I just hate weak rats like yourself.
>>153186962all I could say is that it's a series that I've never been more confident was written by woman in my life
>>153187027magaskitzos will never fail to make me laugh
>>153186962the show was doing great until rebecca sacrificed it to show the wedding between ruby and sapphire and make it impossible to show in certain countries by making ruby wear the dress.i feel had that not occurred, it could have gotten another future season and even another movieGuess we have to wait for Lars in the Stars (god, i cant stand Lars, why is Rebecca obsessed with this character?)
>>153186962Besides the fapbait, I don't get how this turd ran for as long as it did. It sucked so much ass and was ugly as sin to look at.
>>153186995The pilot of SU looked vastly better than the show itself so they went with that. They couldn't have known the shit it'd turn into.
>>153186962It's a show that started as a weekly 15-minute slice of life, and became lore driven serial with the old style episodes being treated as if they were pointless filler. It's a type of self destruction.
>>153186962Definitely manufactured popularity and support, and maybe some nepotism.When you look back at the Steven bombs and the hiatuses, it kind of makes sense why people would think this. Overblown and fake popularity on the internet. Avoiding the main demographic. Dumbass decision-making by the creator and barely any way to support itself through merchandise.It's the same rigmarole as Owl House.Especially Steven Bombs. Let's be honest, this whole program was specifically made to hide the show's bad ratings. Cause normal kids clearly weren't watching this. Wasting away valuable time they had by adding in pointless filler episodes and somehow slowly losing quality over time when they took almost months and months of hiatuses. This show was being carried heavily by CN. Cause if any other show was suffering this badly, it would be axed immediately.No other show that CN has ever had this treatment except SU.
>>153187112>I have no proof but erm it just feels like it should be true/pol/ once again proving that they're just inverse libtards
>>153187917>Owl House.It's honestly funny how every show in the 2010s kept falling in the same line of problems like that instead of just making a good show.
>>153186962No
>>153188441Cool. Care to elaborate?
>>153187847Almost every show at the time kept doing that format and falling face-first into failure.
>>153186981>It was successful.Debatable.
>>153187414Dont even know why she wanted to do that shit at all. What did she think was gonna happen to showing something like this to kids?
>>153186962I'd say the first season was fun, however this show as a whole was only successful with the very loud mentally ill, which despite how noisy they are, they're still a minority. Heck, it was getting 1M views when Gravity Falls was getting 4M.
>>153186962It didn't fail. It was very popular.6 seasons and a movie + 2 videogamesand a planned spinoff showIt might not have gone the way you wanted, but it was undeniably successful.
>>153187414in other words the show was doing great until it was canceled
>>153187414>the show was doing great until rebecca sacrificed it to show the wedding between ruby and sapphire and make it impossible to show in certain countries by making ruby wear the dress.i still think it's hilarious that the network literally told her 'if you do this you're getting canned' and then she did it and was surprised when she had to rush everything because the show got canned
>>153189993I agree. But Steven Universe definitely empowered these people and opened the door for them to take over the cartoon industry. It's patient zero for all the shit we're dealing with now.
>>153191455And then they had to come crawling back to give her a movie and another season.The CEOs were terrified that gay shit would destroy the show, so they destroyed it themselves, but it was still so successful they had to bring it back.
>>153191455She wasnt surprised, she just wanted the wedding more than she wanted a coherent, satisfying wrap-up to the plot, which was always just a vehicle to deliver liberal (not leftist, the Bismuth episode exists just to draw that line in the sand) moral lessons anyway
>>153186962How did Steven Universe "fail in the long run"? It made Cartoon Network tons of money during its run despite the executives' efforts to censor Sugar's vision, and it's still referenced or talked about long after it's ended. The only reason that Lars spin-off is taking so long to get an official pickup is because animated series development has slowed down across the board. That shit is guaranteed to happen eventually, and when it does it'll be YUGE
>>153192294>It made Cartoon Network tons of money during its runNot trying to be a dickhead or anything anon but i need a source for that. Especially for how SU treated this show during SU bombs and after it ended.
>>153192294Yeah it's weird how everyone keeps saying that Sugar sabotaged the show by doing the gay wedding rather than the executives sabotaged the show by issuing censorship ultimatums.
>>153192792it's a little bit of boththe executives sabotaged it by giving the censorship ultimatum but sugar also sabotaged it by insisting on the wedding that ultimately got it cancelled
>>153192839Which she really didnt need to add at all. It was such a dumb decison in genera to try and push..
>>153192942It's crazy how they did so much to add that wedding and it did absolutely nothing for the plot, or any of the three characters involved. They were just going to continue doing everything the exact same.Not worth it.
>>153192294It was a Pyrrhic victory for WBD. It brought in viewers in the short term, but in the process it permanently warped the entire American animation industry and CN in particular is now poisoned beyond saving.
>>153192942>>153193803seriously, the wedding accomplished nothingwhy get your show cancelled over something that isn't even plot relevant?
>>153194150Because she wanted to make a statement. But, that aside, doing something "that isn't even plot relevant" was one of my biggest gripes with SU.>have a fantastic hook (magical aliens that defected from their homeworld because the altter wanted to basically destroy Earth)>main cast are likable (at first)>sprinkled in enough odd details to spur the viewer's imaginationAnd then they proceeded to make episode, after episode, focused on the non-character townies, or other shit that does not matter. Nobody asked for the details of the never-before-mentioned lost friendship between Lars and Ronaldo. No one, not a soul, was demanding an episode focused on Ronaldo trying to be a Crystal Gem and being extremely annoying for 11 minutes. Never had anyone watching the show said, "boy, I sure am interested in whatever Onion's family are up to! I'd love to focus on that instead of advancing the plot of a potential alien invasion or Steven's gem powers!" Then there's things like that one lunatic storyboard artist that was obsessed with forcing their ship between Peridot and Lapis into the show.
>>153195047even when they had phenomenal setups they still fumbled the bag>oh no, steven is trapped on homeworld with no way home!>homeworld has been hyped up for the entire show as this insanely advanced, enigmatic gem society hub>instead of learning anything about homeworld, steven gets a free ticket home through lars's corpse
>>153195047>>153195611>even when they had phenomenal setups they still fumbled the bagAnother prime example is when Blue and Yellow Diamond are stranded on Earth after the big fight that destroys their ships. They dedicate like two minutes at most to the displaced authority figures being stuck on Earth after the world-shattering reveal that 'Steven is Pink' and then immediately get Pink's ship as a get out of jail free card and fuck back off to space.
>>153195611They definitely resolved being stuck on homeworld too quickly. They could have gotten a lot out of that.But the Lars to Lion teleport thing was really cool.It instantly explains Lion's backstory and it's a really interesting way for Steven to get off homeworld. Way more creative than stealing a spaceship or something, and it totally blindsides the diamonds.It also strands Lars on homeworld which adds drama back home, and it's a good redemption arc for him.
>>153195047There were some stinkers in there, but townie episodes weren't so bad. They often had important stuff sprinkled in.Like the time Steven possessed Lars for a day. Seems like a townie episode but it's actually setting up a new power for Steven which is important later. Same with the Dream Warrior episode with Kiki.
>>153187398>he thinks it never happened Yeah those tranny comics being funded in South America was just made up.
>>153190252>undeniably successful.Naw. It looks like a mixture of government money and being supplemented by other actually merchandisable shows.>seasonsThat stopped meaning anything a long time ago.
>>153187176You hate Trump because of those media outlets
>>153192099Leftists are created by liberals not going far enough.
>>153186962Dyke show.
Can you fags shut up about politics?It's exhausting.
>>153191476>It's patient zero for all the shit we're dealing with now.I legitimately believe this show killed the animation industry so it’s good to see someone who agrees. It may not be “the” cause but it certainly exacerbated all the problems that made literally everything suck now.
>>153187124>It gave us the best chuds
>>153187176>Zion Don owns Paramout>Looks inside the deal>It's owned by the Ellisons, a family of treacherous talmudist tyrants for Tel-AvivI hope your just a saar because this level of self-induced retardation is concerning.
>>153195047The Ruby/Sapphire wedding WAS plot-relevant, though! It was the perfect way of capturing Sugar's love for "reverse escapism" (where fantastical characters find the beauty in regular everyday life). Having two different Gems defy their alien societal norms for the sake of their love made the wedding arc one of the most important plot points to fight for in Sugar's eyes. >also shitting on "Horror Club" Get tf outta here. Not EVERY Townie episode was trash.
>>153196075Wasnt that adventuretime?
>>153194150The show is about relationships first and foremost, not the space shit. Sugar chose to die on the hill because regardless of her actual skills as a showrunner she has a backbone.>>153196075>t.Luke Weber
Wasted potential the show, it ended up being a shitty DBZ fanfiction with sad lesbians and underwhelming confronations. Also Steven is somehow the gayest motherfucker despite having a girlfriend.
>>153195994>>153192099You're talking about a maryland suburbanite who created her setting around a combination of Maryland, Delaware, and NoVA.If you know literally anything about these three things. Everyone from the immediate surrounding states just vomited in their mouths at the utter fucking level of bourgeoise.Making everything "diverse and cultured" in the most disgustingly gentrified, rent/home raising, minority displacing way possible is a practice that is just in the nature of these fuckers.They move into the metropolitan areas of other states (often southeast red states), make everything pretty and put up a bunch of rainbow flags, then scream about how they turned it blue while the local populace has to move into the ghetto.That, is the breed of liberalism from which Rebecca Sugar descends. A parasite which must be destroyed by any means necessary
I like peridot.I just like her. That's all.
>>153199616>she has a backbone.I could've sworn I heard some rumors that she only got away with that because no one was paying attention of what was being put on air.
>>153199576Definitely AT. Most of if not of the staff that worked on at moved on to other shows like SU.
>>153187414>>153191455That's a myth. Steven Universe got cancelled much earlier on than the wedding. Rebecca got the notice by the time they were doing Three Gems and a Baby in 2016 (the song "I could never be ready" was written by Rebecca immediately after she learned SU was cancelled).The show got cancelled because International CNs (EMEA if I had to take a guess, CN LATAM liked the show) were pulling the show from air. They did the wedding because there were no fucks left to give by that point.
>>153200786That was from an EZPZ video. The source he got from is slighlty iffy but overtime half of what he said did become true.Plus even without evidence, I highly doubt a woman like sugar can just strong arm execs to push the wedding show out when they could've easily canned the show in response.
>>153196016But this cartoon is full of politics.
>>153186962That plot twist with Steven's mom was honestly terrible. Should've never added that to roses character.
