>love Hark a Vagrant>always assumed Kate was from a middle class to upper class background whose parents let her study humanities comfortably and fuck around in Vancouver and NYC>learn she has a serious memoir>she actually grew up in a dirt poor post-fishing industey collapse tiny town>wants to stay home but there's no jobs>spent 2 years at an oil field working her ass off to pay off student loans and got raped twice there>One of her sisters dies from cancer because the medical system fucked up and didn't catch if fast enough I hope Hark a Vagrant, this book, and the other projects she's done left her a millionaire and comfortable for the rest of her life with her family.
>>153191327Holy ShitI have Hark! A Vagrant but stopped following Beaton years ago because she had some dumb opinion on something. This is depressing as hell to hear
>>153191327>double degree in History and AnthropologyGod women are stupid.
>>153191327>and got raped twice thereWhat the fuck, the only context I had for her oil field job was that cute Christmas comic she did about it. Jesus.
>>153191727She wasn’t actually raped. She had sex with a guy and regretted it when he bragged to his friends.
>>153191327>got a useless humanities degree>didn't get raped
>>153191727It's not the violent knife to the throat kinda rape but the 'I'm super drunk at a party and a guy shuts the door on me and I can't walk out' kinda rape that may just be regrettable sex to some.
>>153191807but if they’re both drunk does that mean Kate raped him
>>153191807Didn't she like actively try to exfil the situation and verbally reject the advances in the comic itself?
>>153191931She did in the second not the first. And these are of course her memoirs so we can only take her word for it and I believe her. But this is 4chan so yeah there's gonna be people saying 'this isn't rape' so I figured I'd get ahead of it.
>>153191327>the medical system fucked upSo she won't go on smug tirades about AMEWWICAN HEAWFCARE like every other canuckistani right?
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>>153192024Wish I could get pussy this easy but I'm not actually a rapist in real life
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>>153192069That was the first time.
>>153192084And her second time happens like a few days after?
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>>153192136And the last one.Kate claims both as rape. I take it as rape. Others will disagree maybe because they're contrarians or want to be edgy or maybe truly believe it's just regretful drunken sex. But these are how they're depicted.
>>153192049>>153192136Eww. Used goods.
>>153192001>be me>a little tipsy at a work party>invite my coworker to my room>the invitation for sex is so obvious that even another drunk woman understands it's an invitation for sex>my coworker and i have sex>she doesn't say anything, but again we're both drunk>she doesn't say anything when we're both sober the next day>>153192103>tell my buddies that i had sex with her >he makes a move on her because she's easy>she willingly goes with him, sober this time>she starts calling herself ugly>starts trauma dumping about her sister>when she starts crying, buddy assumes she's crying about never being "the pretty girl" since that led up to the crying >she doesn't say anything to him afterwards either>years later she calls us rapists in her memoir
>>153192174IIRC it's also implied that she gets into a FWB kinda thing with a worker she's friendly with just as like a form of protection and show she's taken after these events even if they're not officially dating.
>>153191807>not the violent knife to the throat kinda rape but the 'I'm super drunk at a party and a guy shuts the door on me and I can't walk out' kinda rapeOh, so you mean "not rape." Or rather, "not rape if we consider women to be adults with agency," which of course is ridiculous now that we're all enlightened feminists per her own insistence and frequent angry diatribes.
>>153192214what a weird thing to say
>>153191727Its less she got raped and more got passively pressured into sex and put out because was drunk, depressed, but most importantly refused to do coke to go through the day like the rest of the workforce did and was just tired. She didn't have the energy to go through the whole "fuck off shithead" act.Even then she actually goes and says "everyone here is fucked and has fucked up relationships just like what I had" which is the best way to describe the social environment of petrol workers in that hellholeShe even points out she was called out about it at one point, "dont shit where you eat" aka "someone's onto you and you shouldn't fuck him" but she was too depressed to shut that down in the crib, because I repeat the whole point of the comics is "THE CANADIAN OIL SANDS ARE FUCKING HELL HOLY SHIT WHO IN HIS RIGHT MIND WOULD EVER CHOOSE TO WORK HERE"
>>153192223I need to know if you are an adult (ie: male) before responding to you any further, to know if you are biologically psychologically equipped to encounter someone who disagrees with you or if we should instead completely alter all conversation around you for your protection instead.
>>153192233She loves these men as an ideal too. There's hundreds of men who ignore her as scenery. There's dozens who catcall and harass her because they're horny and bored and need something to do and a female face is a fresh diversion. There's a few that take it further. But there's also the people who bring her fresh baked cookies from home because she's working on Christmas or keeps staring at photos of their kids they see once a month so he can afford to buy them nice things so they'll never work like he's doing. Everyone there in the oil sands is carrying baggage somewhere.
>>153192285Yeah that's the whole point.It's a real shame she specifically used the word rape because it reduces what is otherwise a very real depiction of a very real social problem there.
"Rural places like mine depend so much on CP"
>>153192001>>153192013>>153192024>>153192035>>153192049>>153192069>>153192084>>153192122>>153192136>>153192149>im at a party with tons of people that would come help me if i needed help and I really dont want to have sex with this guy and i could scream for help and be saved or even fight back with a bit of resistance and he'd back off because hes just a drunk guy at a party and not a violent racist>i'll just get raped then>it cant be helped
>>153192685anon, you don't understandshe's female
A lot of industry artists are dirt poor from lower middle class backgrounds. You guys all seem to think it's all nepo babies when actual rich kids just get into do-nothing business positionsI have a friend from my town who went to SVA, it's one of the worst cities in America, her parents aren't well off, they just took out loans.
>>153192049Just say >I didn't come here for that and I'm leaving.And then fucking leave. You dumb cunt.Why stay?Give me one good fucking reason why you can't just walk away? Even if this is like full on rape and he pins you down, you can scream, it's a crowded party, someone will come and get your useless ass. Why go through with it? Why? if you didn't want him why do it?So you can make it into a retarded sob story in a comic book later? I swear women will purposefully have shitty hook ups instead of turning a guy down because having something dramatic to whine about is a way they can pretend they're not boring. When you take the statement that women are retarded and narcissistic children as fact, everything they do makes sense.
>>153192103>Gets an unwanted kiss >Hand grabbed>Motioning to bedroom >"Come on"Her response >UmPic related is her right? Ain't no way that's your response unless you have down syndrome or something. She probably has the IQ of a Labrador, and got stuffed full of blue collar cock in exchange for candy bars and her editor is just embellishing a little.
>>153192685>>153192713>>153193170Do you guys not understand that fear takes away a lot of rational thought? If she thought she was going to be raped, and she didn't have anything to defend herself with like some mace or something, her freezing and letting it happen makes sense because her lizard brain is telling her that unwanted sex is a preferable outcome to being killed, and her fear is removing screaming as an option because if it doesn't work and nobody comes, it will just anger the man assaulting her and put her in even worse danger.I get that you all think this is just another case of a spoiled woman trying to salvage her own social standing by reframing a mistake as an assault. And true, Beaton may very well be lying or embellishing parts of the story to make herself seem more like a victim and gain pity points. But if it happened how she portrayed it, then it's understandable why she didn't do the things that seem obvious to us - as a reader who is not in that headspace, who is not feeling the dread and fear she would have felt, the thought of just kicking the guy in the dick or screaming for help is a no-brainer. For her frightened brain, doing something like that is dangerous and could lead to death or torture.
>>153193446Yes, women are children who cannot be expected to be adults in any situation, and like children the world must instead account structurally for their lack of agency. We know. Everyone knows. You made your point when you tried to get people cancelled for awkward dates.
>>153193446They know what they’re doing, they’re getting off on it
>>153193446>18 year old men in war zones without issue>23 year old woman in canada cant handle her coworkerswomen really are children
>>153193446>it will just anger the man assaulting her and put her in even worse danger.lollmaoFight like your life depends on it. Kick. Scream. Smash a window to get attention. Fling the lamp against the wall so it shatters. Grab the chair and hit him with it. Make tons of noise. Dont lay down and take it you dumb cunt.
>>153193446>defending roastiesFaggotIf she can't push a drunk dude off of her she deserves to be ""raped""
>>153193703Nah, the woman lives longer if she doesn't fight because most guys want to bust a nut and move on. If she fights back (strength difference means she's not winning either way) she'll get beaten up or killed as well. 4 Fs will never be beat.
>>153193703spoken like someone that's never -actually- been scared for their life.
>its super easy to rape women because everyones just telling them to not fight back and let the guy just cum in them and run away
>>153193679>18 year old men in war zones without issueHahaha, what the fuck kind of false equivalency is this? You're either referring to soldiers who go through extensive training to replace primal fear with disciplined response, or you're talking about regular people who ARE having issues because they have no idea what's going to happen and constantly fear that they might need to fucking run for their lives or get fucking bombed. Neither are even remotely comparable to a woman who entered a dudes room and heard the door lock behind her.
>>153193703>>153193795anon I know in another situation you'd be talking about how a teenage boy could overpower even an athletic adult woman in most cases(which is absolutely true and we all know this)
>could have prevented rape>chose not to>multiple times>got raped>multiple times>complains about itWomen
>>153193446There's also the fact that accusing someone of rape is a very, very loaded thing unless they've actually raped you.Cry rape before it actually happens? You've now lobbied an accusation on somebody without it going through, People others(including yourself) might actually like otherwise and not consider a bad personCry rape during? Risk them becoming violent, not having anyone around to even help, and be conflicted because if you then aren't fighting, do they know it's rape?
>>153193446No. This guy >>153193464 is blunt but he's right. If you can't take responsibility for managing your fear in a situation like that and standing up for yourself you aren't an adult and shouldn't have the right to vote. It's unacceptable to call this rape.
>>153193808>>153193835>>153193938He doesn't WANT TO VIOLENTLY RAPE HER, you fucking mongoloids! All she has to do is signal clearly she's not into it and she can leave, are you this fuckin' stupid for real? Also as Anon pointed out they're at a crowded party, even if he wanted to rape her he really can't because he's in the worst possible situation for it short of still being out on those steps, all she needs to do is scream and he'll have workboots so far up his urethra that he'll develop rubber kidney stones.
>>153191895Reminder that college swimmer who got branded a rapist was blacked out drunk and the chick he "raped" was older than him and initiated everything and was a woman in her mid 20s who'd go to college parties to find guys to fuck and only came up with the rape accusation because some Swedes saw him dryhumping her when he was too fucked up to realize that she was blacked out which got her put in a hospital and she gave the rape story so her boyfriend wouldn't think tha she was cheating on him.
>>153194687wow, totally relevant
>>153192049This scene in her art style kinda makes this moment feel a little comical to me
>>153191895No. Women have no responsibility, drunk or sober.And remember, rape is worse than murder. Jose is worse than a murderer.
>>153192685People get raped in parties all the time. Who would help if you scream in a party, if they can even hear you? Would they get there in time to stop you from getting hurt? Would you be able to scream before getting choked, how common is it for a woman to over power a man, how do you know he will back off if you fight back and not just get angrier and more violent? Angry drunk is very common, and you might not know this guy well at all, who knows what strangers are capable of?
>>153195443ITG spergs don't understand women.>If a guy tries to rape you, why don't you just suplex him through the window? I guess you're literally a child and shouldn't be allowed to vote!
>>153195642>tell women to defend themselvesNO NO NO ITS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE. WE NEED TO JUST LET OURSELVES GET RAPED SO HE GETS BORED AND LEAVES. ITS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN SURVIVE!
Wasn't this made back when lmao Me Too was a thing? Zero chance she was raped, bitch just wanted some clout when every birthing person wuz le raped always all the time xD
zero sympathy for misandrists
>>153191327Read this and really wasn't impressed. Just another forgettable auto bio comic for New Yorker readers to put on the bookshelf or the coffee table.
>>153191327I know a lot of bad things happen to her in it but it's still a very interesting comic to learn about an industry and jobs that's not present in most media.
How come this event is illustrated>>153192122>>153192103>>153192136>>153192035 but the first one isn't? Was it more brutal?, was she actually just flat out drunk and remembers nothing?
>>153196391I think it's just an artistic choice. I interpret framing the first one with black panels and shift in layout is to emphasize the shock of it, the unexpectedness of it and the impact and trauma on her. The second time it shows more of the detail to make it clear to the audience, it's happened once before so maybe she's not as shocked too but it also shows the dissociation thing.
>>153192685I came to know a guy who combined the trick of locking the door with having consumed enough booze for the "I was drunk"-excuse.The lady only got out because she sprayed him with mace.
>>153193446>unwanted sex is a preferable outcome to being killedHerein lies the difference between men and women.
>>153193937Society thinks an 18 year old being thrown in a meatgrinder is perfectly reasonable to the point its legal to break into your home and drag you there by force.It also thinks that women should not be responsible for anything ever if they have even the smallest most light excuse they ever have.
>>153195642It has nothing to do with being a speg. You're literally sitting there going "I can't even go sit on a stoop and drink with my buddies unchaperoned because I have zero ability to handle even the slightest consequence or awkward situation but I SWEAR DOWN I'm an adult who can handle adult responsibilities and has the judgment to participate in running society", which is a bizarre claim. It's fucking crazy to expect everyone else to baby-proof a fucking after-work drink with your colleagues. Getting into situations like this is proof that you don't have the mental capacity to make important decisions.
>>153197862>you see, in my fanfic where this is my fetish words mean whatever I want them to
>>153191327>spent 2 years at an oil field working her ass off to pay off student loans and got raped twice thereWhy are Americans like this..?
>>153194687>this one time a woman acted like a whore and ruined a guy's life>therefore all women lie about being raped foreverI'm starting to think you people don't actually live in the real world
>>153197888>no response whatsoever, just seethingImpressive, very nice.
>>153198546>ok so YES a woman can just randomly accuse you of rape and get you sent to prison for decades or ruin your life even if she doesn't, BUT uhhhh shut up incel
>>153197888>Men and women are the same, and should be treated the same>But women specifically never have any accountability nor are they complicit in putting themselves into a positions of vulnerability. So any outcomes cannot be AT ALL their fault no matter how they contributed to it.>and if proven that they misrepresented those situations, they will face no repercussions. Even if those lies result in negative outcomes for others.>There's no contradiction in this reasoning. whatsoeverThis is the problem.If being "raped" at parties is so common, don't participate in them. Or don't have them in locations where pairing off is at all possible. And better still, don't get so stupidly drunk and don't be so gullible.Everyone should be assumed to be a self-serving liar anyways. Men and Women both.
guys can we stop discussing rape and instead just talk about comics and cartoons please im begging you
>>153198873So what, your solution is to treat all women like the enemy forever and assume they all want to ruin your life, instead of just accepting that only a handful of women actually do shit like that?
>>153199059What was that thing that women themselves said about this exact same thing in reverse? Something about a bowl of poisoned M&Ms?
>>153191327Does Ducks put her personal comics into next context? Do you think she talked to her younger self about what happened?
>>153197893She's Canadian, you know, where the fucking OIL SANDS are located?
>>153199071This hipster ass artstyle of the 2000s is too quirky for me. Noelle Stevenson's early work annoys me for the same reason.
>>153198983>bait with a hyperfeminist "oh my god everything is rape culture :(" comic>be surprised people discuss the feminist redefinition of rapeI would make fun of you, but only if I was sure you were male and therefore have the ability to be held accountable. If you're female, of course you think this came out of nowhere, poor thing.
>>153199181im not op
>>153199150Her late work doesn't annoy you?
>>153197440That is where you are wrong.
I should’ve known what to expect when I entered this thread.
>>153199071Nah not really. While I do think the events of Ducks were important her sister dying of cancer, something that never comes up in the book itself is way more defining for her because it seems to have shaped a lot more of her life.
>>153191986Unfortunately she's a the kind of Canadian liberal retard that turned this country into an economic zone that taxes its own people into poverty while giving unlimited handouts to jeets just for existing.
>>153199501>woman doesn't like hearing logicYou shouldn't be on this site in the first place, whore
>>153191708Anti-human hands that pray to moloch typed this poat
>>153195882If you dont have a wrapon or the element of surprise all the wiahful thinking in the world isnt going to change reality.You sound like the type of dumbass who thinks they could fight a gorilla bare handed and win
>>153199860The humanities are full of pozzed faggots who actively distort history to create the current state we live in.
>>153199887>just let a man rape you broIm not gay. Even one Albert Fish’s 10 year old victims fought enough to leave claw marks on him. You’re literally weaker than a 10 year old girl.
>>153192233https://youtu.be/whdzP0GHuc4?si=EHAw-ThD1NorHVMEI was apparently in fort mac the same years she was. I was on the lines though for a different company. It was unbelievable hell. But I'd go back if things got bad again. I sadly recommend everyone goes to try to make it cause once you know if you can or can't you'll be a better person for it.
i thought modern empowered women loved casual no strings attached sex? at least that's what i'm told all the time.
>>153192685>>153193170It was a different time back then. Before ME TOO and all that.
near every adult woman not in a committed relationship has fwbs, situationships, or a stable of men they rotate through inbetween relationships and sometimes even during the early stages of dating so they get a steady supppy of nonstop dicking. why am i supposed to feel bad for modern women when plenty of men are quickly turning into older virgins? isn't this what they wanted?
>>153197566>Society thinks an 18 year old being thrown in a meatgrinder is perfectly reasonableFunny you should mention this because the main thrust of the book is really a complaint about how corporations treat their workers as if they're disposable and how society as a whole is completely apathetic to it. The drunken sex parts take up relatively little space in the entire book and the story itself doesn't spend much time dwelling on it. But I guess it's to be expected that readers get hung up on the most salacious part and ignore everything else.
>>153200615>about how corporations treat their workers as if they're disposable and how society as a whole is completely apathetic to it. modern women see the average man as disposable trash worth less than shit on the sidewalk too. what's your point?
>>153191327>>153191669It's a great book which I think presents a pretty nuanced view of the subject matter. It's thoughtful.
>>153200704That's literally the exact opposite point of the book. Beston sees it as tragic that young men from her home are being chewed up and spit out by the economic challenges of the time. Let go of your resentment for one second to actually engage with the work being discussed.
>>153200840>Let go of your resentment for one secondmaybe that should be directed at western women too, who use every waking moment to demonize any man who isn't rich or conventionally attractive.
>>153199537>her sister dying of cancerThat happened after her entire Hark! run, it wouldn't have come up in Ducks anyway since that's a comic about the time before and beginning of her career. Her sister's death effectively ended Hark! A Vagrant.
>>153200615>I guess it's to be expected that readers get hung up on the most salacious part and ignore everything else.If OP hadn't described it as rape in OP the thread would have been about the comic, Anon. But OP had to be a faggot, it's in his nature.
>>153200840This part and the part where she asks if a guy used to be a fisherman and he says 'he's still a fisherman, he's just here (in the oil sands) hits hard. Especially because like the fishing thing is a massive tragedy of the commons thing where fishermen got greedier and greedier and built bigger ships and better radar and ended up putting their whole province out of a job.
>>153200975>the fishing thing is a massive tragedy of the commons thingCall it what it is: fishermen are retarded. They were warned about stock collapse in like the 1970s and TO THIS DAY every fisherman on the planet still whines if a quota is imposed on him. They'd overfish even if there was literally nobody else fishing. It's not about the commons. It's about mental retardation.
>>153200876>total lack of self awareness
>>153201083at this point i am confident that a woman's feeling of ick for me trying to stop an abuse chad from raping her would overpower her "grief" afterwards about being "raped". the idea of a nonchad sticking his nose where he doesn't belong would be more insulting to her than pouting because chad decided you were the cum dumpster for that particular night.
>>153191327This book is kinda terrible. A steep drop from her historical strips.
>>153201465Man, you are all screwed up in the head
>>153201868i'm simply giving you the uncensored perspective on what it is like to be an isolated and sexless man who has been invisible to women his entire life. good for you if you live in your own little reality where women treat you like a flesh and blood human being and reward you with sex and intimacy and don't ostracize you and treat you like a leper. the point is i'm not going to feel empathy for the sex that would never extend the same to me simply because i'm not tall and attractive.
>>153201947>woman gets raped>anon most affected
>>153202162maybe don't lead on abuse chads if you don't want to get dicked down when said abuse chad is horny and it's his right to get laid by whatever woman is around. not my problem. last i checked women don't like pussies who don't approach so by that logic, why are they complaining?
>>153191327I loved this book, and yes she was raped two times
>>153200975>where fishermen got greedier and greedierlmao all the fishermen out east would go on E.I. once fishing season was over. Most of the year they would be a fuckign parasite on society, draining unemployment funds while sitting on their asses waiting for the season to open. I dont know if they still do, but when I was groing up in the 90's/00's that was the fishing culture.
>>153202493System working as intended. Before government assistance, fishermen who went broke in the off season would occasionally turn to crime and shit out of desperation.
>>153191327>ywn rape Kate Beaton
>>153200975For me it's the part where all the newfies are shit talking Fort Mac and the one old local gets pissed at them and talks about how it's his home.
>>153202782Seems like it would be pretty easy. She wont fight back and just lets you finish inside her while crying.
>>153202866total lightweight! pathetic!
>>153202866legend has it that 15 years ago, /co/ pushed her to an angry breakdown after some anons sent her lewd messages to her blog. but actual penis in vagina rape garners apathy from her
>>153191327>got raped twice thereShe didnt though
>>153193679>18 year old men in war zones without issueThe suicide rate for male veterans under 34 in the US is ~7-8 times the national average.
>>153202799Oh yeah the part where he's like 'why the fuck you shittalking my house when your leech asses dragged yourself out of a shithole with no jobs do you can take our money and go home like parasites.
>>153201947>if i'm not treated with empathy and compassion, no one else should be either.I'm sorry you're lonely, I'm sorry you're unhappy, I'm sorry you aren't getting the physical, social, and emotional validation we all crave, and as someone whose last relationship ended 20 very lonely years ago, I genuinely, sincerely empathize. It sucks, bro.... but don't be a shit about it.
>>153191327Glad she's still working.
>>153202866Imagine the cuddling afterwards
>>153203084>I'm sorry you're lonely, I'm sorry you're unhappy, I'm sorry you aren't getting the physical, social, and emotional validation we all cravenot a single woman thinks this way about terminally single and isolated men if they aren't tall and attractive. the vast majority of women think the male loneliness crisis is either not real or well deserved and a long time coming, since they hate the vast majority of men and wish they'd get culled in a war or kill themselves. i'm not going to extend empathy to the sex that is only capable of loving their offspring, and in plenty of cases isn't even capable of that.
>>153203174Maybe if you didn't give off massive whiny bitch energy it would help
>>153191327I have a soft spot for authors that dont come from a rich family that let you fuck around and get contacts to invite you to cons and events and editorial houses. so ill check this book.
>>153203216personality is a meme. i don't give women pussy tingles at first sight for a variety of reasons despite being fitter and healthier than 90% of men my age so absolutely nothing else about me matters. why would i choose to change myself mentally for a sex that refuses to acknowledge my existence due to things out of my control physically, no matter how hard i discipline myself in terms of fitness it will never be enough. women do judge books by their cover actually.
>>153203274>personality is a memekek, what a cope
>>153203290what do you think le chopped man epidemic is about? men with bad personalities? women will proudly admit they see maybe 1-3 men a year they want to fuck and the rest are disgusting subhumans to them.
>>153203174>not a single woman thinks this wayHow do you know? Have you talked to them all?
>>153203352womeme are a hivemind. nothing i have seen in over 30 years suggests otherwise.
>>153203317>1-3 men a year they want to fuck and the rest are disgusting subhumansIts basically the same for men, but on a different scale. Theres plenty of women I would fuck, but hardly any I would say are actually attractive, or I would want to spend any time with after the fucking.
>>153203386>Its basically the same for menirrelevant since women control what men get access to sex, relationships, and arguably socializing in general.
>>153203401>women control what men get access to sex, relationships, and arguably socializingOnly if you let them, Anon. Take control of your life.
>>153203446>Only if you let them, Anon. Take control of your life.not all of us are swinging big dick chads who hypnotize all the pussies in a room when they walk in like you anon. most of us have to grovel and beg for leftovers stained in cum.
>>153203460Oh god, you are really fucked up in the head, anon.
>>153203460You'll never get anywhere if you've already lost the battle in your mind.
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>>153203521what battle. why are you people incapable of realizing women genuinely don't see a vast majority of men as human beings and more just eyesores they begrudgingly accept to exist alongside them due to society collapsing if these men dropped out of said society. i would argue they'd rather these same men be segregated and hidden away from society while still keeping the gears moving so they can reap the benefits of their labor while not having to see or interact with them.
>>153203595>why are you people incapable of realizing women genuinely don't see a vast majority of men as human beings and more just eyesoresliterally insane
>>153203618you'd have a point, but i personally have lived a firsthand reality as one of these invisible men my entire life, and that's never going to change despite my best efforts to improve myself time and time again.
>>153193808>Women would rather suffer a rape than take a beating What kind of fucking snivelling coward mentality...
>>153203671>that's never going to change despite my best efforts to improve myself time and time again.And what did you do to try and "change yourself"? Go to the gym for a month and give up? Wear different clothes? lmao
>>153203671Wow... this is literally you.
>>153203539Top kek
>>153203671>despite my best effortsDo any of those efforts include approaching women?
>>153203893Don't be silly, they almost certainly did. And then his repellent personality drove the women to run for the hills. A tale as old as time, but "personality is a meme" lol
>>153203814it is easy to blame women for one's failures instead of focusing in self improvment. at the end of the day Inceldom is nothing but a cope mechanism
could not find this one on getcomics.org anyone has a cbr download link?
>>153204067you can find it on Emule
>>153203539Is dat sum OC? Good.
>>153203811i've worked out regularly for years, i lost almost 150lbs near a decade ago and have kept it off, i don't drink or smoke or eat garbage. like i said i'm fitter and in better shape compared to 90% of men in my age group (early to mid thirties). doesn't matter when you're ugly with a bad small frame and sub 6ft.>>153203814ugly? yeah sure, i've been well aware of that since early childhood when i was ostracized and gatekept from socializing for being the ugly neurotic kid who couldn't emotionally regulate.>>153203893i thought women made it painfully obvious when they want you to approach? that has yet to happen and probably never will. don't want to be the dreaded creepy ancient dude who dares to approach women without the "obvious" signs, potentially upsetting them and making a scene since i broke the unwritten social contract of staying in my lane and hiding from society as an unfuckable uggo man.
>>153193808>Strength difference means she's not winning anyway Anon her goal isn't to win the fight. This isn't fucking tekken, loser gets raped edition. Her goal is to get out of the situation.She probably doesn't need to even get physical. Just use her big girl voice and say clearly that she's not going to have sex with him. We're talking about some joe schmo blue collar guy at a party who's a couple drinks in, not a morally deprived violent and twisted psychopath.
>>153204119>doesn't matterI've seen ugly guys with Down's syndrome get pussy. They pick up ugly girls with Down's syndrome, mind you, but they can still get a girlfriend.>Waaahh I'm not tall and handsomeThat's not the reason you're alone anon.
>>153204240well i'm not retarded or autistic so i can't fuck retarded or autistic women. unfortunately i'm the bad type of mentally ill that turns you into a self hating neurotic fuckup, and not the good type of mentally ill that turns you into a criminal psychopath who makes pussies gush uncontrollably and instantly jump on your dick at every given opportunity.
>>153204119>i did everything... except actually talk to a woman>why don't anyone want me!?
>>153204301>i'm the bad type of mentally ill that turns you into a self hating neurotic fuckupYeah, that's rough. There are women like that, but good luck meeting them, and you'd need double that luck to make a relationship work between two self-hating neurotic fuckups. The problem's with your brain, fix that and you might be alright.
>>153204331why would i talk to women when women insist they do not want to be approached unless they give you signs to first? people tell me left and right if a woman likes you she'll make it easy and will be all over you.>>153204336>The problem's with your brain,i am like this because i literally wasn't allowed to interact with my peers because they all wrote me off as a creepy weirdo before even getting to know me during key developmental years where i should have been socializing and having fun with women and gaining experience. do you think i came out of the womb like this? i have been nothing but kind and open minded in real life and people have always responded in kind like i'm a worthless piece of shit they don't want around, or cold indifference, simply because i'm unattractive. you don't get it man, shut the fuck up if you don't. you're not helping with the snarky reddit feminist "do better sweaty" comments.
>>153204410>simply because i'm unattractiveThat's the brain problems talking again
>>153204423we as a society really need to stop collectively gaslighting men into thinking women aren't equally as shallow as men.
>>153204440>that's what he takes away from this exchange
>>153204522nothing i have seen in my life suggests women aren't by large shallow sluts who think with their pussies. they are not the more empathetic sex, they are not the more emotionally intelligent sex, they are horny, stupid apes obsessed with sex with men of high status. whether that high status is physical, social, or financial.
>>153204522You need to interact with women more, lil bro. I believe in you.
>>153204612Man I'm 51 years old and have interacted with women enough in my life to know the good and the bad. If anon insists on believing that his problem in life is not being tall and handsome, that's purely his brain problems, because that shit doesn't stop tons of short ugly dudes from getting short ugly girlfriends. I fucking 100% guarantee that his physical appearance is not what's stopping him. It'll ensure he never dates a Stacey or quasi-Stacey, but that's about it.
>>153204745so you're gen x and completely out of touch with the bullshit younger millennials and gen z put up with. got it. you got the last chopper out of vietnam. fuck off, you don't get it.
>>153204410>why would i talk to women if they won't talk to me first?the same reason you apply for a job instead of waiting around for someone to give you one - life rarely gives anyone anything unless they take the fucking initiative.90% of the reason so many people are so lonely right now is everyone's already decided to never take the initiative unless someone else does first. it's like imagining a roomful of people and nobody will take a chance and talk to anyone else first so the whole fucking room stays quiet and everyone just thinks everyone else hates their fucking guts.you know what might happen if you talk to a woman? she might say 'no'. she might say 'fuck off'. she might call you a creep or a loser. but you know what will happen if you never talk to a women? nothing.
As a boomer, I know a thing or two about a thing or two. If you aren't getting replies from recruiters, then it isn't become something is systemically wrong with what we're doing collectively, it is because you don't have a firm enough handshake! Tsk tsk, you should try blaming yourself for a change (what, no, I never would blame myself also for contributing to the collective situation, I am totally innocent, you are guilty).
>>153204841>shit sucks. better just give up.
>>153204799>copeHuman beings haven't changed significantly since fucking Socrates' time. >Muh Generation Gap is a stupid meme
>>153204860This but unironically. You have no solution beyond "keep supporting the system for no reason while we actively mock you for it." The chinese are right. Let it rot.
>>153204821women are the ones insisting on not to approach unless you're conventionally attractive or they give signs. women control the dating market and men just get chosen.>>153204871yeah 1990 and 2026 are basically the exact fucking same, you're right. silly me. hardly anything has happened or changed since then so true!!!
>>153204612>you're too young to know the truth!>>153204799>wait, I mean you're too old to know the truth!>the truth is only revealed to a very narrow age range, which I am at the middle of. And only to people who agree with my selfy-pitying horseshitlmao
>>153204967are you this fucking dense that you can't comprehend how society has changed since gen x came of age? really?
I DM'd the link of this thread to Kate Beaton. I hope that makes you chuds writhe in shame
>>153205012she definitely won't read it or come here.
>>153205012Ayo that's like raping her 5 more times. Bitch is gonna love it.
>>153205021Depends on if she likes reading miserable chuds talk about what constitutes "legitimate rape" lol
>>153205012>>153205034I hope she sees this, bro.
Why is this autosaged?
>>153205012What tf does that accomplish
>>153205189Shitty off topic genderslop thread 80% of which is arguing about defining rape where noone actually read the comic
