/co/ is a dwarf board. Leaf eaters and orcs need not apply.
Are goblins orcs?
>>153195786In Tolkien's lore yes. Goblins are the original orcs. Most other media no, goblins are not orcs. Hobgoblins are closer to orcs.
>>153195786not usually
>>153195720All modern depictions of dwarves are based off Tolkien's dwarves, who he based them off Jewish history and culture.LolLmao even
Hardly.We green boyz
>>153195820In the russian dub of the Gummibears the ogres were called goblins because vat de fak is oger comrade
>>153195720Why are there no /co/ shows about Dwarves? Too male and "unwoke"? Fantasy shows have only become more popular, not that they were ever particularly unpopular, with shit like Dragon Prince or those various D&D shows like Vox Machina and Mighty Nein. Why can't we have that but focusing on the whimsical antics of drunken dwarves instead of "gay purple not-elves whine about melodrama for 2 seasons and then the show gets cancelled"?
>>153195872No we're most definitely not.
>>153195917All 3 of those shows are pretty recent tho.
>>153195893Get out of here you multicolored freaks!
>>153195868Dwarves are basically "what if they WEREN'T evil though"
>>153195786Orcs weren't made from goblins, they were made from humans, because goblins would have been not nearly ferocious enough.
>>153195720Trudvang dwarfs are the coolest shit, I love that setting.
>>153198658In Tolkien's setting, goblins were just small orcs. Uruk Hai were created with elves and entwives though this was never fully established as canon. Half-orcs then came from Uruk Hai and humans. At least that is how I remember it. I very well could be wrong, it's been a minute since I've read the books.
>>153195720hello dwarves, it is I, your friendly neighbor, the normal human being
>>153198935>two *lves in a trenchcoat
>>153198963I knew it. They're way too happy to be here. They probably want gem cutting advice.
>>153198866I prefer Discworld orcs.
>>153195868>who he based them off Jewish historyThat's a big no.Tolkien Dwarfs are based off Norse mythology like the Elves. Dig for your racism in a different mine.
>>153195720Question are gnomes and dwarfs the same thing
>>153199127>"But they were FORCED to be evil"Felt kind of uninspired for PTerry tbqh.
>>153199127I'm not familiar with those anymore it's been probably 3 decades since I've read those books. >>153199145No they are not the same thing. Gnomes are smaller and are way more fey. They do look similar in some ways. Dwarves have blunt and rough features where gnomes are more wizened and almost feral looking, fox or weasel-like.
>>153199157But Mr. NUTT is cool. I want to get a button badge of him and call it the Nutt Button.
>>153199201Will you allow anyone to touch your nutt button? You slut.
>>153199258You took my pun and ran a mile with it. Well played!
>>153199343Lol. I was just messing with you. I hope you don't let anyone touch your cool ass button!
>>153199515>Lol. I was just messing with you.I know. I'm not being sarcastic, that was actually well done.
>>153199519Well, this must be a red letter day for me. Usually I just get called a faggot and dismissed as old and useless. Thanks, anon.
>>153198963but I bring huge amounts of the beer beverage.
if a dwarf has dwarfism what are they known as
>>153199686cadpig
>>1531996865’9
>>153199672Hm. I think whatever the knife ears did, is ultimately forgivable. But no small beers, ok?! That's for the lads and lasses. We drink grown-up beverages around these here parts. Oh and all *lves must down at least one shot of whiskey or they can't be dwarffriends. Them's the rules.
>>153199672>30%Pisswater, fuck off umgi
>>153199201Nutt specifically is cool, yes.You know I just cannot bring myself to read Raising Steam? Just because I know it's the last one ever.
>>153199145gnomes, dwarves, halflings, etc are all the same species but different races/ethnicities/subspecies acclimated to different environments.
>>153195917Yeah, I think that'd work really well; it really is surprising there's not any that comes to mind. It'd have the potential to be both comedic and awesome with the adventure and all.But I feel like it'd probably need to include another races in the group. Maybe a human or elf princess they need to take from one place to another?
>>153195720I'm down for that
>>153199876Iktf
>>153199914Gyatt DAMN. I think I'm a dwarfbro now. I love me some lithe elven lasses but holy shit, this fine ass dwarf woman would bear me many strong warrior sons. (Warriors are the only thing that matters)
>>153199876>Just because I know it's the last one ever.Actually, Shepherd's Crown is the last one. And Raising Steam was very obviously rushed for very obvious reasons, but if you like trains you'll probably enjoy it.
>>153199903They're not tho. Dwarves are usually hand "made" by a deity. Halfers are usually some offshoot of humanity and gnomes are fey through and through. None of them can produce offspring with each other unless it's through author fiat or whatever.
>>153199980>warriors are the only thing that mattersSpoken like a 2 stewardship brokie with 1 demesne size
>>153200023Your imagination is as stiff as your beard, old wizened fool. Anything is possible with Hashut's power, even crossbreeding.
>>153195820Which is weird as the "Hob" part of hobgoblin means neutral to humans.
I remember someone once storytimed a short warhammer fantasy comic about a dwarfIm trying to find it in the archives, its short and sweet and very dwarven
>>153195720https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N_2TOUOdEchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C0jfB8QTbo
>>153200023
>>153200153The one where he and the human fight skaven?
>>153200177https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gv1qnPAiSIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y30LAj502mY
>>153200153I think I know that one.>Me mine!>Full of elves!>And they're being tortured!>This is the happiest day of my life!
>>153200115Maybe not I'm happy and satisfied with my lot in life, which is more than I can say for most people. If you know for a fact what you are good at, you should be happy with it. Reaching for more isn't disallowed, after all!
>>153200235I have it but you all are going to have to wait a minute.Got to walk the dog.
>>153200136Yeah. Show me one half-gnome/half-dearf though. Maybe they should be allowed to exist but the gods would tremble at such a kino being. That would be akin to crossing a dragon with a kender.
>>153200147Yeah, it's weird but it's stratified in dungeons and dragons lol that's the base I'm using, pls no bully.
>>153200208>>153200235>>153200346Yes! Was gonna storytime it myself but a lot of old files on my computer were deleted and I cant find it
>>153200348...So we might need a couple more infant sacrifices to get this one just right but trust the plan! The Dark Flame of Udûn bestows his gifts on the most stubborn.
>>153200625Lol I'm behind you all the way. I want to see this to fruition.
>>153199914I'd hammer her anvil
>>153195720
Alright, here we goIts fairly short
>>153199145No. Dwarves are like members of a blue collar trade. Factions/specialties like plumbers, electricians, miners, mechanics, etc. Gnomes are like your DIY schizo in the middle of the woods who can do several Dwarven specialties by himself with the same quality. Also more cunty than Dwarves.
>>153201208If Games Workshop had any sense they would be adapting these little comics into animated shorts for Warhammer+
>>153201225>Five years for ElfslaughterGrundhelm clearly got railroaded.
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>>153201299Oh Grundhelm, you scamp
>>153201225>The drunk Sergeants name is SchnapplerWhat happened to this caliber of writing?
>>153195720I guess nose armor is important when the nose is 30% of the head.
>>153195868>they have big noses so they must be jewish
>>153195720Okay mythology bros, what's the deal with Norse Dwarves and Norse trolls? Are they really just the same thing and trolls are the dirty Alabama fucks of the dwarf world that won't bathe or clean up?
>>153195868When did all dwarves become Scottish? If anything I would have thought they would all be Bergen Jergen Reeky Deeky Swedes.
>>153201389Warhammer Dwarfs are YorkshiremenJohn Rhys-Davies is Welsh and played Gimli with that accent.Americans just can't tell the difference, so they just think they are Scottish,
>>153201389>>153201430Although Dwarfs do conform to certain scottish stereotypes, being scrappy and cheap.
>>153195917Going back, fantasy shows are actually really rare. Japan churns them the fuck out but they happen only like once a decade in the US. Half the time the creators want to be weird and different and refuse to ever have a single elf or dwarf appear once like the DnD cartoon. Half the novelty of the Zelda cartoon was the fact that it was the only fantasy cartoon in existence for a fairly long period of time. 15 years or so, except maybe until people started dubbing Slayers in the late 90s.
>dwarf thread is debating dwarf lore and culture>elf thread is coomers with knife ear fetish lol. lmao even.
>>153201221Idk. Dwarves can be pretty unapproachable. Gnomes might treat with you over gem cutting. Dwarves won't because in their mind, they are already perfect. Just my 2¢
>>153199145>>153201221If you want to get mythical about it,>Dwarves are a kind of cherished elevated dead who live underground in their burial mounds and hold the wisdom of ancient times/peoples as well as guard burial hoards of weapons and gold>Gnomes are elemental spirits of nature, unrelated to humans or ghosts. They are more like a tiny personified aspect of nature like most fairy types of creatures. >>153201373They do both turn to stone in sunlight. So there is a good chance pre christian dwarf folklore mutated into later troll folklore. Especially in Christian times when any kind of spirit creature had to be evil and opposed to the church. They needed to be evil dirty things that are dangerous to meet.
>>153195917Parsley was cute, too bad the show sucked.
>>153201373Trow used to mean troll, iirc and trow and dwarf were kinda used interchangeably but they're pretty much considered separate peoples now. Dwarves are civilized and trolls will eat you without hesitation, man, woman or child. They dgaf.
>>153201430Excuse you but I can definitely tell the difference. Maybe being of Northern European descent helps, idk.
>>153201373KindaDwarfs are the wise elders and craftsmenTrolls are the feral cannibal monstersBoth turn to stone when the sun touches them. Both can be described as huge (dwarfs were not inherently short until later) with big noses and scraggly beards. The bigger difference in the old dwarfs is that they were described as white and pale as a dead body since they never saw the sun.
>>153201476don't exactly have much to choose from
>>153201449I think you're right about elves in the d&d cartoon but I'm pretty sure they depicted dwarves at least once. That's strange about the elves tho. They had some pretty tight restrictions about that show, satanic panic and all that, but elves in the d&d world are pretty innocuous. Hell, they are almost all rigidly good aligned! To a fault
>>153201476There's an elf thread on /co/?? I simply must find this thread lol
>>153201389Warcraft started the dwarves with Scottish accents thing.
>>153201449The really annoying thing about US made fantasy shows is how 90% of them were way more interested in being a subversion of the fantasy thing than an adaptation. It was way more common to see someone try to depict an elf as more goblin-ey looking, a dward might be a lizard, or it tries to make the standard classes into a joke and makes fun of DnD games.
>>153201627The fantasy genre is officially more subversion than expectation.Nowadays it can't even be tongue-in-cheek or clever, it has to be blatantly lazy.
>>153201627Yeah I hate that shit. Let us get used to a typical fantasy setting before trying to turn everything on it's head. It's annoying. All I want is just one fucking decent Forgotten Realms cartoon. Just one. ONEO N ENEIS THAT SO HARD TO ASK?! damn
>>153201682We never did get an actual expectation, though. I'm not counting the d&d cartoon because it was so milquetoast. I still loved it as a really young child but it doesn't hold up well in any way.
>>153201701The expectation is The Lord of the Rings, which admittedly is setting the standard pretty high.
>>153201449>>153201627Rankin Bass was pretty good for a minute there in the early 80s. Flight of Dragons was decent, as was Last Unicorn. Thundar the Barbarian was a decent attempt even if they had to go overboard with the real world locations and futuristic stuff. The Dungeons and Dragons cartoon really did not bother adapting much at all from the games. That actually is a good point about the Zelda cartoon, it was the rare case of a standard sword and sorcery show of the time. Pirates of Dark Water was also fun but another time when they wanted to make up all their own races and monsters, which seems to be the norm.There is a lot of stuff that takes place in a fantasy setting while focusing on some totally different characters as a brand new stand-in for elves or dwarves like Smurfs, Gummy Bears, Little Wizards, or Ewoks. It does seem like no one is willing to actually try and make a fantasy cartoon that is the standard thing with elves, dwarves, and wizards. They want to dance around the concept a lot and kind of toy with the setting some like Adventure Time or Magiswords. Even early stuff like He-Man did this.
>>153201627>>153201682>>153201792It surprises me that no one really tried this back in the early 00s when Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter were the biggest name in cinema. We kinda sorta got a half assed attempt with Ultimate Book of Spells. And that was another one of those little known European productions that came on at 6am for one year and was never heard of again.
>>153201792>Gummy Bears,You know, if they just made that a show about a dwarf or gnome family getting along in a medieval world then it would probably be remembered as one of the greatest fantasy adaptations made. But Disney had to be Disney and make them into talking animals.
>>153201819They thought the secret sauce was YA book adaptations and they did do the Chronicles of Narnia and tried to do His Dark Materials at that time.Why they thought HDM would attract the same audience as LotR really shows how little they understood the subject matter.
>>153201819The big push at the time was to make film series out of the big fantasy epics. That is why they made His Darkest Materials, Eragon, Percy Jackson, and Narnia movies. Attempts were made, just not for tv. The plan was to make lightning strike twice with HP and LOTR by making 5 film franchises out of another fantasy novel series. Largely drawing from the YA novel series.
>>153201843I didn't mind the gummy bears being gummy bears desu.>>153201863The last sentence doesn't make any sense because I forgot how I started it before it ended.
>>153201728Yeah, true and it took 50 years to get a live action version of it so it's not looking too good and LOTR is super popular.
>>153201893It's ok. It's easy to follow what you were saying, at any rate.
The dwarves in this setting are pretty interesting:>Dwarves are an ancient race, old to the land even before the coming of the elves. Their first encounter would prove near fatal, for they were almost driven to extinction by the war-like elves. Though their mountain holds were impossible to breach by force, the elves broke them through bribes and traitors.>Now the royal lineages of the dwarves descend from those who sold out their kin for trinkets and gold and the memory of that betrayal has never faded. Yet though they were foul to the eyes of the elves, they were spared for none could rival them in the crafting of metals or in their knowledge of runes.>Then came the Cursing and the world itself turned against them. The mountains heaved, the deep ways split and the ancient holds-once thought eternal-became tombs of stone and dust. Those who survived were forced to abandon them scattering into what remained. Now they are a dying race, their new holds no more glorious than badgers dens, clawed into the earth and few and far between.>Yet they cling to life and their wares are no less sought after then before. Though they are a covetous and deceitful race, trade with them is still worth the risk and only the richest elven princes can afford a full panoply wrought by their hands.the gnomes and halflings here seem to be the degenerated descendants of dwarves cut off from their people and forced to live amongst humanity after the elves genocided the dwarven kingdoms and chased the remnants undergroundOh and the elves here are really fucking coolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pay7dTJGG4https://www.instagram.com/p/DWWe-iqiATm/
>>153202139What setting is this? It sounds impossibly good.
>>153202176Forsaken Gods by DidrikmaIts bronze age themed fantasy for a tabletop gameUnfortunately most of the lore is locked behind patreon but he posts a lot of bits and pieces on his instagram
>>153202204I'm gonna check that out, sounds really cool. Thanks for the heads up.
How do the Dwarf and Orc bros feel about D'Orc? I'm enjoying it. The chicken feels dumb and random though.
>>153202308Idk. I won't give it a chance so it might be good for all i know.
>>153202204>Its bronze age themed fantasyNeat
>>153195917You'd think Discworld Dwarfs, with their weird monogendered society and having to figure out someone's sex as part of courtship, as well as Cheeri Sh'rtarz and her campaign to openly present herself as a woman would be gold for modern cartoons.
>>153202854They already handled that as retardedly as possible in that awful Night Watch adaptation.
Dwarfs are cool, simple as
>>153201627A fantasy series not apeing off of Tolkien would be nice for once tbqh. doesnt happen often.
Bump.
>>153204021Unfortunately, that's nearly impossible if you want the end product to still be considered "fantasy".>J.R.R. Tolkien has become a sort of mountain, appearing in all subsequent fantasy in the way that Mt. Fuji appears so often in Japanese prints. Sometimes it’s big and up close. Sometimes it’s a shape on the horizon. Sometimes it’s not there at all, which means that the artist either has made a deliberate decision against the mountain, which is interesting in itself, or is in fact standing on Mt. Fuji. - Terry PratchettWe would honestly have to completely redefine fantasy as a genre to get out from under one Oxford Don who wrote almost entirely as a hobby.Maybe a good start would be looking into pre Tolkien fantasy, the Fairie Queene by Edmund Spenser is quite good.
>>153201389This fellow right here. Three Hearts and Three Lions was one of the fantasy works that inspired Dungeons and Dragons. Hugi the dwarf, a main supporting character, had a scottish like accent. Inspiring such traits in dwarves in various dnd works/characters. Becoming the contemporary "voice" of dwarves. Which in turn got carried over to other things like warcraft through standard geek osmosis.
>>153205683Yeah those were great books iirc.
>>153195720Huh
>>153195720I r always been more of a gremlin guy.
>>153205517>*KICKS DOWN FUCKING STONE WALL*>"WHERE'S MALEKETH?!?!?!?!?>*POPS CAPS IN ALL THE WAAAAGH BOSSES>"WHERE'S THAT FUCKING ELF NIGGER AT?!?!">*DRINKS A CARAVAN OF BUGMAN'S*>"I'M NOT GOING BACK TO MY REST UNTIL I GIVE THAT SHIT FUCK THE MOTHER OF ALL ATOMIC WEDGIES FOR HIS BULLSHIT!"
>>153200136https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60F61RRPHXs
I didn't know )co/ was so fervent over dwarves. I feel like battle lines are being drawn up. Clan names are getting called out. I feel nervous about all of /co/ now.
>>153199140Tolkien admitted he based his dwarf society on Jewish culture. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarves_in_Middle-earth#Jewish_history
>>153204021This is why I liked Hilda, it was a folklore based series that did not pick everything from the standard DnD setup.
>>153207466>Childhood is playing World of Warcraft as a Dwarf and having fun!>Adulthood is playing Total War Warhammer 3 as Thorogrim and murdering EVERYONE on your shitlist>Child at Heart is playing Deep Rock Galactic
>>153195868Tolkien's dwarves were not inspired by Jewish culture (other than the dubious stereotype of being greedy). However, supposedly Tolkien based the Dwarf language off of Hebrew--thick and guttural, but not ugly like the orcs' Black Speech of Mordor (based on Turkish).
>>153201299>rat ogreFuck, I'm stealing that. That's so fucking cool.
>>153201245Based, fuck elgi
>>153207629Games Workshop has pretty much abandoned the ip so go hog wild.
>>153207899>Games Workshop has pretty much abandoned the ip so go hog wild.No? The Old World exists.
So are dwarves Norse, or are they Jews? Or maybe Norse Jews?
>>153207921>The Old World exists.And they are extremely pissy about it and have deliberately slow rolled it hoping that interest will wane.There is a rumor its getting folded into Age of Smegmas upcoming second reboot.
To be a pedantic twat for a minute, “fantasy” might legitimately be one of the broadest genre terms possible. If you looked up AFI’s list of films nominated for best fantasy, amongst no brainers like LOTR or Conan, you also have:>Babe>Terry Gilliam’s Brazil>I Married a Witch >Pleasantville>The Thief of Baghdad>a number of superhero films (Batman, Superman and Spider-Man 2)Even Star Wars is often just as much a fantasy story as it is science fiction.As for why “sword and sorcery” fantasy is not played straight often, my guess is it’s a combination of the subgenre being too niche/nerdy, execs not wanting to do action shows unless the characters are very marketable, and creatives feeing like they can’t think of worlds that aren’t just Tolkien/DnD lite.
>>153207939Swedes
>>153207957>Even Star Wars is often just as much a fantasy story as it is science fictionSo is Star Trek
>>153201010Damn knife ears stole our culture.
>>153201208Short?!
>>153195720What is it that makes Dwarves so likable and Elves so insufferable?
>>153204021Majority of them don't do that. Almost any fantasy series is too much of a subversion or they are much more made up by the creator to be different for the sake of different. But overall more series avoid the general DnD-Tolkien style of fantasy than imitate it.Adventure Time and Mighty Magiswords didn't follow the Tolkien/DnD setup at all. Arcane is entirely its own thing and floats more scifi. Disenchantment seems to want to make fun of historical things more than fantasy tropes. And the elves/dwarves are not really Tolkien based at allDave the Barbarian also doesn't match up with the Tolkien framework. I would say more anime series follow it closely, but most that I see are more based on imitating the mechanics of a video game than anything else. Trying to make it out to be a very generic cookie-cutter world is on purpose so the main character can claim how it resembles some MMO they played or that they know how to navigate the player menu only they can see. >>153207957These days the term Fantasy is genuinely accepted to be Tolkien-derived Medieval European setting with magic and dragons. If there is anything else then the title has to be altered to something like Cowboy Fantasy, Scifi Fantasy, Eastern Fantasy, Steampunk fantasy, Modern Fantasy, etc. If you do not add any more descriptors to it, the audience is made to assume it's Medieval western Europe with magic.
>>153209264Elves are smug elitist assholes that have the favor of the gods, are perfect Mary-Sue immortal magical fucks that always live blessed perfect lives. Dwarves are hard working, get down and dirty scrappy bros that are willing to get drunk with anyone that can keep up.
>>153207948>>There is a rumor its getting folded into Age of Smegmas upcoming second reboot.Literally AoS cope from having to deal with their own End Times.
>>153201208Nice.
>>153207554>>153201364>>153199140>>153207939nta but Tolkien did use jews as an inspiration for his dwarves was because pop culture at the time had depicted dwarves as jew-like. Tolkien tried to rehabilitate that image.I've heard it was a response to Wagner also using jews and jewish culture as an inspiration for dwarves in the The Ring of the Nibelung but I dont know how true that is.
>>153207315Tug on yer peach fuzz ye yellow-bellied youngling, and pull out yer battle-axe! This is no time to be dawdlin, yer clans honour is at stake!
>>153195917Dan VS is about a manlet
Do you think Dwarves can exist in a scifi or cyberpunk setting, or are they inherently stuck as a fantasy race?
>>153213982There are sci-fi settings that use dwarfs quite extensively. 40k comes to mind.
>>153213982Dwarves are real, so they are not limited to Tolkienesc fantasy. People just find it demeaning to include them in anything now, partially because certain Dwarven celebrities like Peter Dinklage demand roles outside of their culture.At this point, the only way for the Dwarven culture to heal is for the dwarves to embrace their culture, growing out their beards, open carrying battle axes and working the mines. Only then can we truly embrace the Dwarven people's particular cultural niche in television and film.
>>153209353And the only real reason why fantasy anime follows D&D closely is because it's all riffing off of Wizardy and Ultima through the lens of Dragon Quest and Record of Lodoss War.
>>153207496WERE RICH!
>>153205683That's one thing that a lot of people seem to forgot: D&D started out as a bunch of nerds kitbashing all their favorite fantasy and scifi books into one big setting so they could basically dick around in those worlds. The original Dungeon Masters Guide even cites sources so you can read what they read to get a better grasp of the concepts.Incidentally, that's the problem with a lot of modern continuations of things. No-one in modern D&D in pulling concepts from new modern fantasy. Most Twilight Zone reboots fail because they aren't adapting short stories from masters in the field. New Trek is more obsessed about being Trek over writing good science fiction.
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>>153216568https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkoPDAZV1yI
>>153195720>All stunty pubic face rock eaters need to be sent to boatmurdered.
I've had an idea for a minute where Snow White is brought to the Seven Dwarfs as an infant and is raised as a dwarf until plausible deniability is stretched too far.
Some of Soleil's Dwarves volumes are great, though #1 remains my favourite
>>153201373Both trolls and dwarfs are part of a the same group known as "underfolk/the undergrounders", essentially the humanoid creatures that lives in the earth/hills/mountains.This group also includes elves.While there's originally not much physical difference, besides trolls pretty much always being bigger than humans, their behavior would differentiate them.Elves were guardian-like beings that could be either adversarial or friendly, like spirits protecting an area.Dwarfs were cunning craftsmen, and while they could be great to seek out for advice or trade, they never parted with anything for free, and the price could often be steep. They're exclusively male, unlike the other groups.Trolls as directly adversarial to humanity and great at using magic, mostly differentiated from jötnar by living in Midgard. Troll is still used as a prefix in Scandinavian languages, and usually indicates evil, magic, or both, with wizard literally being "Trollman" and magic being "Trollcraft".It's not fully understood, but there's a lot that point to them all originally being part of an earlier "spirit" religion before Asatru took hold, since they're all associated with the ground and death, and often live in grave mounds.
>>153213982Leagues of Votann/Squat on paper is a pretty good translation of fantasy dwarves into Sci-fi even if it shamelessly stole a lot of that from Deeprock Galactic. I hate how the biker gang aspects have been forgotten, its an excellent addition in my opinion.Then again LoV and Deeprock Glaactic are the only examples of Dwarves in Sci-Fi that I know of. Maybe the Dwemer could be made to work in Sci-fi?
>>153219277Dwemer aren’t even Dwarves. Their elves. Which really shows how creative Bethesda is since all the races in TES can be boiled down to Human, Elf, or Animal People.
>>153220258For all intents and purposes the Dwemer are dwarves. I think it shows that dwarves dont need to be short and squat to work. You can have normal humans with a dwarvish culture and nothing would change
>>153195720>Dawi from another hold arrives!
>>153205517>"Wazzock! You slime-worshippin' umgi filth-merchant! Get your arse and that pet reptile over here! I would have words with your little beast face-to-face, so that I may lop off its claw and reclaim what is mine. Those scales are from my armour, and no thief steals from the White Dwarf and lives. You and your followers will die — that is my oath, as my kin, Grimnir, is witness!"— Armour of Glimril Scales>"Right, my northern kin, let's get about this. These Chaos-lovin' umgi are in need of a reckoning, alright. I have an oath to fulfil, so don't mind me if I'm greedy, but I need to kill lots of kruti braggarts to get my axe channelin' me runes. I promised Grimnir they'd be a mighty tally and I ain't on for breaking such an oath. So come on! Let's have 'em!!!"— Rune Axe of Grombrindal>"Our Goddess has spoken to me! She who prepares the hearth; who secures our Holds. Uzkular have been caught sneaking about like rat-men filth, trying to gain access to our mountains unseen. Well, I see you, scum, and by Valaya's cloak I'll have every last rotten one of you back in that ground, pushing up your tombstones!"— Cloak of Valaya>"At last, we have lured the Orcs to the place we Dawi fight best — in Grungni's realms! I see beside me brave Dwarfen hearts. Such courage will imbue my Rune Helm. This is a day to strike many grudges from the great book, for I am the White Dwarf, and only worthy folk appear in my pages... So, let us record great deeds this day, and give these urki scum a right royal hammerin'!"— Rune Helm of Zhufbar
>>153195868That might be true but in Tolkien's lore Dwarves are hard workers and excellent craftsmen, jews just get their money through interest rates
>>153195868That cant be since dwarfs add something positive to the world and jew do not and never will.
>>153220736Islamic history describes Jewish clans as taking up blacksmithing and goldsmithing because the Arabs were too arrogant to touch slave work. And only the weaker Jews did, stronger/wealthier Jewish clans were generally farmers.
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>>153217423>this post was typed by gobbo hands
>>153195720Only tangentially related, but what fantasy maps avoid the big blob trope? even middle-earth suffers from it.
>>153199914Imagine how hairy that asscrack must be...
>>153209264Elves just suck unless they are turbochads like Glorfindel.
No David the gnome?
>>153224462My heart can only take so much, anon.
>>153220258Not really sure what you're implying, it's a creative use of elves.
>>153195917Who in their right mind would want to watch a show about a bunch of drunk, seething, hairy manlets who live in caves?
>>153226536You fundamentally misunderstand dwarves and their culture.
>>153216368 full-course meal right here
>>153217927This looks amazing and well written. I'm going to read it tonight I hope.
>>153201476Don't forget those shitty short and green elf coomer threads.
>>153228290You should, they're really solid fantasy comics. Also check out their Elves series which was the original and their Mages and Orcs & Goblins spinoffs since they're all part of the same setting and have a bit of crossover between them.
While we're on the topic of fantasy comics, the comic tie in to D&D 4E (Fell's Five) is pretty fun. It has a little too much MCU-esque quippy bullshit but overall it's a very solid action-adventure comic and I'd recommend it.
>>153229558Thank you for the heads up, I'll check all those out.
>>153195720We are the dwarven forge of fetishes
>>153207948That rumor is likely stemming from AoS about to get End Timesed itself and get anything relevant folded into 40k.>>153207629Not familiar with warhammer fantasy then?
>>153213982>Do you think Dwarves can exist in a scifi or cyberpunk settingYes, just because modern GW is lazy at writing them in an interesting way doesn't mean that they don't functionAll of their core features can easily be retooled to work in most tech levels
>>153195868Oy vey!
>>153226996There's not much to understand. They're a bunch of overweight, hairy manlets who all suffer from a special kind of autism that compels them to live in the basement of the world while seething at anything that isn't them. Huh, now I see why you guys like them so much. They're relatable.
>>153195720Get the fuck out you bearded axe chucking piece of shit DIGGERBeer guzzling cave cricket DIGROES are not welcome on an elf board.
>>153231684Pfft. You knife ears think you know it all. You'd still be trading in sea shells and kumquats if it weren't for us. You couldn't tell basalt from sunstone, you wankers. Get outta here before some goblins come along and kick your skinny asses back to your mold infested forests.
>>153216368Hummina Hummina!
>>153207939>Dwarves as a raceNorse-Germanic. In the Hobbit they're essentially ripped straight out of the Sagas, being a mix of the dwarves of the Icelandic Sagas with their quest taken from the Nibelung. In LotR the Norse influence is further strengthened.>Dwarven tongueHebrew, with the notable exception of the dwarf-names of the Hobbit, which are Norse and derive directly from the Dvergatal of the Icelandic poem Völuspá. The Hebrew is part for flavour and part because Tolkien was reserving Norse and Anglo-Saxon for the Northmen/Eóþeóð.
>>153232384Warhammer Chaos Dwarfs are one of their rare actually creative ideas.They are also pretty semitic looking
>>153233947>The evil, devil-worshipping dwarves look Jewish.What did GW mean by this?
Does D'orc (Half Dwarf, half Orc) count?
>>153234024He's a Chad among orcs. Among dwarves not so much. They barely like each other much less a half dwarf. They probably would view him as an abomination.
>>153233985They are supposed to be Assyrian/Babylonian.
>>153234024borderline.
