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> Batman has difficulty beating a fat middle aged woman

Surely this is what the modern audience wants!
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>>153218239
Penguin has never been a physical threat to Batman.
What an odd choice
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>>153218239
Trannies have an unfair advantage
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Really Batman shouldn’t have any issue beating most of his villains thanks to all the skills he’s been given to keep up with the Justice League. In the Golden/Silver Age his traning was just going to college and lifting a lot, not training with ninjas and Tunisian knife fighters or whatever.
They stopped being able to make make Penguin a convincing threat 30 years ago and just made him run a nightclub
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>>153218239
Calling her Oswalda is the biggest problem
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>>153218239
I'm convinced the character was supposed to be trans but it got veto'd so they did a quick re-write.

She's LGBT coded and even does a drag-ish routine in the episode to the inexplicable delight of her audience. Physically the character is more of a brute than any other version of Cobblepot and for a canonically 70 year old 'woman' they put up a hell of a fight.

And her relationship with her sons just comes off as a knock off of Mom from Futurama.
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>>153218239
Not giving us Orca was miss opportunity imo
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>>153218239
If only it was a fat middle-aged man!
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She's former special ops guy who cut his dick off and started doing crine
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Of all the things about this show to complain about, this is one of the least.
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>>153219293
Well the gender-swap is really stupid
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Went into the show without any idea what was gonna happen. Thought she was penguin's henchwoman or something, didn't know it was a genderswap.

Then I saw black Gordon and Babs and was like, yeah fuck this. I was "fine" with a black catwoman in other shows/movies, which they made back to white in this show, but this is infuriating. Gave up after 2 episodes.

Then I heard some shit about what they did with Harley, which I don't even wanna remember, and was glad I dropped this. Hate my coworker still for recommending this shit
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>>153218862
> And her relationship with her sons just comes off as a knock off of Mom from Futurama.
It’s supposed to be like Ma Barker
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>>153218321
yeah a lot of people blow that point. When he's written ok he usually doesn't struggle all that much physically, at least not 1v1. Most of the better Batman stories are about him stopping the villains before people get hurt or preventing the next heist or finishing a case to prove something. Even the likes of Bane made sure to wear him down before their confrontation and that's somebody who was physically superior. IMO one of the most interesting things about Batman was how different the crimes could be which necessarily required his versatile skillset. The approach to finally nailing somebody like Penguin was different from a Joker who was different from a Freeze
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>>153218294
The umbrella, at a distance.
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>>153219293
Except we know how and why they're doing it and what that foretells.
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>>153221417
And in The Batman where they decided all the rogues had to be able to take him on in hand to hand combat for some reason.
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>>153221439
>how and why they're doing it
it's just because timm got bored. stop shadowboxing le woke
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>>153218915
It’s never ever happening. She’s forever doomed to obscurity and minuscule cameos. And I say this as someone who likes Grace.
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>>153221530
Ok retard lmao
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>>153221530
There are plenty of other obnoxiously woke elements but in this case it really was "I just wanted to zag."



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