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Look at what you did, chud! You killed their dream and now they're crying! I hope you're happy!
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>>153239858
Who?
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>>153239858
the movie wasn't releasing in theaters anyway, thank paramount for that
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>>153239858
>pirating the movie after its release would have at least been better than this. This is incredibly disrespectful to all the hard work the artists did
What does the timing matter? Genuinely.
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lol

https://x.com/AriFlorArts1/status/2044139789612720307
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>>153239858
Yeah but they just going to release it on streaming services without even bothering with a theatrical run, we all know that's just begging for it to mostly be watched pirated anyway.
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It sucks for them that it happened.
They should blame the clown who leaked it to some rando. The moment it got out there it was impossible to put that genie back into the bottle.
Blaming the internet for what it does is pointless.
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>>153239940
Getting threatened by a neet eugene levy will never not be funny, though
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>>153239858
>Recycled plots from Korra
>Don't have the balls to bring back the white voice actors
>For a show made by two white guys
They deserved to have it leaked
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>>153240232
Fantastic Asia-derived characters should be voiced by fantastic Asia-derived people. I'm sorry.
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>Fired every voice actor to give their Asian friends jobs
>Stunt casting MCU dropouts who are less or equally as Asian as Dante Basco
>Retarded story that doesn't care at all about EITHER series' continuity

Animators might be able to be proud of it but consider yourself lucky they ripped this bandaid off early.
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>>153240267
Naw no real fans agree with that
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>>153240117
>it was a reference
Holy shit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMnDxrG1jGg
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>>153240267
>fantastic Asia-derived people
Like Dave Bautista?
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>replacing the original VAs with DEI stooges
you get what you fucking deserve.
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>>153239858
>Leaks are blowing up online
>Millions of eyes on the fantastic animation work they did for it
>People praising the animators for their tremendous effort and polish.
>It hits especially hard in this current slump in western animation.
>This is literally the quality people were starving for.
>You were never gonna get any residuals for a theatre release
>And now that the release is cancelled you were gonna get even less from a streaming only release.
>But at least this way you get the glory from millions of eyes on your work
Vs.
>Film pulled from theatres by cowards at the studio
>Film is released on Paramount Plus with no hype, advertising or fanfare.
>Film is seen by virtually nobody
>"Oh did you see that new Avatar movie, it's got mad visuals"
>If you're lucky the reply is
>"I'm not buying Paramount Plus to stream one movie, guess I'll pirate it"
Both outcomes would've led to the same conclusion.
The people who were there to appreciate your work and enjoy it to the fullest were always gonna pirate it.
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>>153239858
I never liked or cared about ATLA or Korra.
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i thought westoids were okay with it
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>>153240608
Counterpoint

>Avatar studio is forced to close because it doesn't even generate money from streaming
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>Gaang movie leaked half a year before release in full HD
>Netflix live-action aang will be middle-aged by the time book 3 releases
>Fighting game will be DoA
>New earth avatar series is about jeets in the future being guided by korra
not looking good, gaang
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>>153240678
Tbh its almost a relief, nothing has been truly good since the og cartoon
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>>153240589
>DEI stooges
You mean a blind voice actor who is a veteran? Wow, so fucking DEI! It'd be DEI if it was given to some random blind person.
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>>153240800
Yes, hiring the bitch because she's blind is DEI, glad we agree.
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>>153239858
The quicker the avatar IP is dead
the better, because is for the best after Korra and the comic.
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>>153240800
A veteran who hasn't been in anything of note since FOP ended almost a decade ago.*
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>>153240800
Yeah she is an actual va and has past work experience with nick but you know exactly why she was considered for the role based on the other new va's backgrounds being "accurate". At least she was one of the few who's performance wasn't flat as fuck.
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Who gives a fuck? Anyone involved in making it has already been paid, so the only people losing money on it now are the investors who treat everything like gambling. Well this time, you came up snake eyes. Boo hoo, roll again or leave the table, moishe.
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>>153240743
>>Fighting game will be DoA
It will actually likely maintain a small fanbase of hardcore FGC guys because the game has people like Mike Z working on it and is actually the kind of interesting degenerate shit that some people like. It's really funny though that its licensed because that type of game is totally inaccessible to the casual Avatar fan.
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>>153240917
They're scared they won't get a Christmas bonus
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>>153240946
That or they think that if the play good doggy then Mr. Shekelstein will give them more money for a sequel, which 100% wasn't going to happen anyway if they decided to dump it on a streaming service that nobody gives a fuck about.
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>>153240944
Bro, the game is DoA, you fags tried to say the same shit about 2HKO and that was also DoA.
No one gives a fuck about fighting games unless they're Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Tekken, and maybe Guilty Gear.
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>>153240232
They really took out the fan favorite, Dante, and replaced him with generic ass invincible. Unforgivable
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>>153240969
Guilty gear had like 5 minutes of tiktok meme fame because of bridget and now no one cares
sad really
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>>153240743
butit has lolis! two of them! sisters even!
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>>153239858
>movie was originally supposed to have a theatrical release October last year
>delay it by a year for streaming. Movie is done and just sitting there.
Im glad this shit got leaked
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>>153240969
I did not say the same thing about 2XKO, I was well aware it was dead on arrival because the devs were stupidly adding ten million mechanics, made it a tag-fighter and their lead combat designer was praising fucking DNF Duel of all games. That's the bad kind of degenerate that even FGC-tards like me don't even like. Its needlessly confusing and results in a game where even someone like me with thousands of hours in fighting games struggles to understand whats going on sometimes. The people working on it notably had either no experience or only past history working on bad games.

The Avatar game has Mike Z working on it who might legitimately be the white man on the planet that knows the most about fighting games. Even his former employees that ousted and stole Skull Girls from him still speak highly of his understanding of FGs and of animation in them even though he's not an animator. The game itself is not bogged down with ten million mechanics, there is one movement mechanic with a surprising amount of uses and depth to it. I forget what it's called but that movement mechanic is the kind of thing people like me actually like. We don't want 10,000 confusing mechanics, we want 1-2 really depthful ones. RC from GG is another good example. A mechanic you see and it gets your mind working on what you can do with it. 2XKO's mechanics made my think "This will just lead to endless oppressive block strings because assist mechanics are too strong" and I was correct. Really, just not being a tag-fighter already increases its chances. Tag fighters don't sell and if you bring up fighterZ you're stupid.

The Avatar fighting game will not sell well but it will be a true Discord fighter where there are like 1-2 thousand people that really fuck with it and play it on and off for years and I don't say that as an insult.
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>>153241045
Calm down ChatGPT, this isn't a sales pitch.
No one gives a fuck about fighting games and the "hardcore FGC" doesn't exist anymore.
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>>153240944
>>153240969
>>153241045
I maintain that the reason modern fighters aren't succeeding is a lack of single player content for casuals. And I don't mean the story mode fad Neverrealm Studios started with MK9 which Capcom accidentally killed with MVC Infinite. I'm talking minigames like destroying the car in Street Fighter, broken unlockables like Blazblue's "Unlimited" boss characters, the kind of funky side content you saw in experimental games from the 2000s like Fate/Unlimited Codes.

Rather than create a casual-to-pro pipeline by investing in reasons to play besides matchmaking, they all make the assumption that the only thing they need is better training modes and everything will solve itself, generally just hyperfixating on chasing the Esports dragon.
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To the artists/animaters who are mad.

1. You got paid.
2. Blame Paramount and Nick for this not anyone else.
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>>153239858
Get better project security
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>>153241091
>No one gives a fuck about fighting games and the "hardcore FGC" doesn't exist anymore.
I mean it depends on what you mean by this. To some extent I agree the homogeneous community doesn't exist anymore like it did in the 2000s but that's largely because fighting games are selling better and more popular than they've pretty much ever been. Strive is the best selling Guilty Gear ever and it's not like it stole those sales from established series, in fact SF6 is also doing better than pretty much any SF before it. So yeah the community is more fragmented, EVO is dead and it's no longer 2011 but there's more people playing fighting games than there ever has been.

I disagree if you're trying to say that niche Discord games don't exist anymore. Again, there's actually more people playing FGs than ever before. New blood is actually getting into the hobby and once they get bored with SF6 and Strive they do actually sometimes move on to trying +R or a French Bread game.
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>>153239858
I don't feel any sympathy for them after they fired the entire original voice cast
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>>153241148
>New blood is actually getting into the hobby and once they get bored with SF6 and Strive they do actually sometimes move on to trying +R or a French Bread game.
NTA, but I sincerely find that hard to believe.
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>>153241166
believe in whatever you want, chuddie
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Did the whole thing get posted? I thought it was just like 2 clips
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>>153241153
Based
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>>153239858
>2d animation movie in 2026
The movie was going to flop anyway the general audience prefers stylised 3D like Arcane or Spider verse, 2D only appeals more to action shonen addicts and weebs in general
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>>153241092
I both agree and disagree with you. I agree that's why casuals struggle to view them as worth buying. I disagree this is an attainable goal to have for most developers and thus it is not a good solution. What you are describing is not going to make most games worth it to people, in fact most modes like that usually go entirely unplayed. If you want casuals you need to do what SF6 did and make a whole ass campaign. That's what makes them feel it's worth spending 60 dollars on. The issue is that's like asking most devs to make a fighting game and then also make another game on top of it. Fine if you're Capcom, which they literally did with SF6. Its why the game even feels like it has two main menus, because it does. They basically made two games and they were stitched together at the end. This doesn't work for any small dev though so the fact they focus on trying to onboard people into the hobby proper makes sense to me.
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>>153241011
Shit makes no sense. Jesse Flowers came back as Toph barely ten years ago too, but they all lost their minds since then
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If I was an animator who
>spent years on a project that was supposed to be released in theaters
>it got pulled from theaters last second
>the movie then got leaked because the studio who pulled out theatrical release was so retarded they got scammed by a generic phishing email and sent THE ENTIRE MOVIE before checking the email address
I would genuinely be celebrating. Fuck Paramount. This is probably a paid actor
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>>153241153
This
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>>153241244
The whole "leak" is a marketing stunt.
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>>153241153
Nobody was "fired" they simply weren't recasted
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>>153241339
Okay? It's the same thing. No reason to not bring back the original actors
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>>153241339
Okay? That's the same thing. There's no reason to not bring the original actors back
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>>153239858
Schizo.
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>>153241244
From what ive seen, a lot of people who worked for Paramount fucking hated the experience and are elated when shit like this happens. There are those that would've preferred their work get am official release, but seeing the company they hate get screwed while they already got paid for their work is more than worth it.
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I've seen enough people on xitter faking that they were a part of a movie or show's production for engagement to make me doubt the legitimacy of this claim
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>>153240779
>Tbh its almost a relief, nothing has been truly good since the og cartoon
agreed
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>>153241339
Playing a semantics game while ignoring the intent of someone's point does not make your as smart and clever as you seem to think it does. It just makes you an annoying douche at best and a complete retard at worst.
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>>153240096
>This is incredibly disrespectful to all the hard work the artists did
By watching their movie?
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>>153240944
>It will actually likely maintain a small fanbase of hardcore FGC guys
at least until they shut down the servers in less than a year because obviously this game was going to be pay-to-win.
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>>153241437
People who work in the industry tend to keep things professional and not talk shit about their former/current employers, and when they do they do it anonymously...but then anyone can claim that theyre legit, so it goes full circle. Everyone is full of shit.
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>>153241527
Fighting games don't need servers for anything other than matchmaking because they are P2P. That's why they never get shutdown even when the game is less than popular and even when they do go down the games are still sometimes playable and if they aren't they are easy for community servers to be made because all you need to do is wire up the existing P2P architecture and in some cases GGPO can already just do it if it's a game built on the same engine as another game with existing support. There's barely a single fighting game you can't play online. The only real issue is if the game came out in the era where games weren't getting official rollback netcode but is not old enough that it can just work with GGPO on Fightcade. The number of games this is true for is tiny, notably Marvel vs Capcom 3 was one last I checked. It's a moot point though because everything gets rollback now and GGPO is open source. P2P is bad for most games but it offers a surprising amount of advantages for a 1v1 highly deterministic genre.
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>>153241153
>>153241339
>>153241241
In a better world, people being given the boot from a project they were previously part of because they were deemed the "incorrect race" would be considered terrible by everyone (funny how this is only aimed at one race btw) but sadly a lot of social pillars have been destroyed so now it's not big problem like it should be
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Is this one of the most incompetently managed franchises of all time? Somehow, Nickelodeon and Paramount always manage to drop the ball somewhere. Lol
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>>153241637
pretty much. there were signs during the original series. Korra was a complete mess from writing, retcons, to the tumblr community and even the way they released the seasons.
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>>153240917
>Who gives a fuck? Anyone involved in making it has already been paid
Anon, they are animators, the studio pays them once a month, if the studio closes, they have to look for a new job (they'll be lucky if another studio hires them in this economy)
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>>153241633
Avatar is fantastically asian. The nations are hinted at certain countries but nobody expects them to specifically hire a voice actor of Chinese, Japanese, Tibet, and Inuit descent. They were originally fine with anyone who was "vaguely asian" to do an ethnic character but things change.

Zuko is the most baffling choice because Basco is one of ATLA's most well known and beloved voice actors(next to Mako(Iroh)) and they skipped him for Steven yuan...who is Korean? At that point it's not even about race anymore. They probably just saw his fame from invincible and thought he'd get more attention than some guy who came in a Peter pan movie in the 90s
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>>153241637
Avatar is run by two incompetent people; all their other projects have failed since the first series ended.
They had to be fired from the Netflix series because they weren't doing anything.
The worst part is that they're the kind of pretentious people who refuse to "tell the same story."
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>>153241101
This. They all got paid and the movie isn’t going to theaters. Why are they mad?
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>>153241865
ATLA is such a lightning in a bottle show that none of the creators can recapture it. Bryke failed with korra, and Ehasz failed with the Dragon prince.
To top is off whenever a live action was in the works, Bryke were the ones being difficult to work with and are always the first ones abandoning ship once it's confirmed to be a shitshow.
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>>153241883
I don't know, maybe because the employees are paid once a month, maybe because the studio will probably be closed and they'll have to find a new job.
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>>153239858
>I hope you're happy
I am, because we can finally put this shit to rest to make way for new things.
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>>153241928
They should vote blame Trump and the republicans for that. Not those of us that saw the move.
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>>153240678
That was always going to happen, nobody's subscribed to Paramount+, the movie was sent there to die.
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>>153241633
Yup. DEI makes the world shittier in every way, for everyone.
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>>153241883
>>153241101
They probably get a bonus that's tied to the revenue that the movie makes, which is gonna be next to nothing now.
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>>153239858
Why do miserable anons like you always make threads like this whenever [insert bad thing] happens?
>oh nooooo look what you did! so sad! how could you!!
passive aggresive bait. im so tired of this charade
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>>153241928
>>153241811
I dont know anything about the industry so im genuinely asking here, what's with the "once a month pay" with the studio? They already completed the movie last year and were originally to release it theatrically last October(before Paramount decided itd be more profitable to release it on streaming in a year).

Are these studios still paid even after the product they were commissioned to create is complete? Was Paramount delaying and sitting on this movie for an extra year meant 12 more paychecks to these people? And why does the survivability of the studio hinge on this alone
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>>153240800
Who cares if she’s blind? She’s also not a tiny Chinese child who grew up with a rich family and learned kung fu playing with badgers in the backyard
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anyway anyone got a working link
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anyway anyone got a working link
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>>153241998
>And why does the survivability of the studio hinge on this alone
Animation studios typically receive between 40% and 60% of box office revenue, depending on agreements with distributors and markets. However, this figure varies considerably depending on the success of the release, the region, and the production model, as they often have to cover high production costs before making a significant profit.

In short, they need the money from the premiere to continue making movies, pay employees, cover electricity, other expenses, etc.
A studio that isn't producing movies is a studio that isn't making money and will eventually close.
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>>153242063
https://gofile.io/d/WNCkil
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>>153242112
Dolphin porn
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>>153241633
Except for the fact that Bleach and Dragon Ball Super voice actors weren't replaced despite being white so please stop pretending that you actually give a fuck about the voice actor being different so that you can bitch about "DEI".
The creators had their own vision for who should voice the adult version of the characters.
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>>153242153
>The creators had their own vision for who should voice the adult version of the characters.
And is a shit
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>>153242063
https://gofile.io /d/WNCkil
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>>153242090
>box office revenue
But this was never going to theaters. This is a streaming service premiere. Perhaps there's a different rate they calculate for views on streams but corporations are always nebulous with their numbers.
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>>153242153
Wow you have zero argument. None of the stuff you listed is the same as the situation with avatar. They switched the actors because they are insecure about white people
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>>153242192
>This is a streaming service premiere.
It's the same thing, but they get paid according to how many views the movie gets and how much traffic they generate on the platform.
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>>153242192
>But this was never going to theaters
The movie cost $80 million it was definitely intended for theaters. Paramount was probably betting that nostalgia would overcome the general public's indifference to 2D animated films.
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>>153241925
It's not lightning in a bottle, the writers for the newer installments are just shit. How non-benders get handled in each story is a good example of this. Sokka, the first major non-bender character created was designed for an arc about making up for lacking superpowers and becoming an equal to his peers. Then we get to LOK and the movie, who both collectively ignore this and write non-benders as a "poor widdle minorities!" allegory. Why? Because the writers for those couldn't write a creative story to save their lives.
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>>153242215
>None of the stuff you listed is the same as the situation with avatar
Elaborate
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>>153240917
Some jobs are like family. Don’t you care about your family?
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>>153241925
It's not lightning in a bottle, it's just that every writer after ATLA is dogshit and can't be saved by riding off it's success. Compare Sokka's original series character arc to how non-benders afterwards are always treated as a "poor widdle minorities" allegory. This is because modern writers can't write something creative, even if you held a gun up to their head and told them it was the only way for them to save their lives.
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>>153242327
The Dragon Prince sucked, so we know ATLA wasn’t just the writers
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>>153242306
Anime is more racially ambiguous than American animation and western animation fans don't overlap that heavily with hardcore anime fans. Ignoring the push for race accurate voice actors wasn't as big of a thing in that world but it's a hard-line rule in western animation that effects everything from kids shows to long running adult cartoons like the Simpsons. They have zero reason to not bring back the original actors other than being insecure about white people
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>>153239858
Ha ha
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>>153240678
But it will also be closed if it releases a hit movie.

Because if management does that, profits will soar a bit more as they've cut the costs specifically associated with that product, and all that additional bit of income will all be due to management's work rather than due to the movie's quality.
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>>153239858
Sorry bro but fuck paramount
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>>153242327
I liked in OG avatar that benders were mostly seen as useful functions of their society, non-bender didnt have any grievances or inferiority complexes about being born a non-bender. It's not like everyone were combatants, and even if they were, becoming proficient at bending took as much practice and effort as a martial art, so it wasnt just an instant super power.
The fact that they had to shoe horn another shit equalist group in there really shows where their head are at, right up their asses.
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>>153241991
OP knows that 4chan users see red when people try to by sympathetic on the internet and attack, they can't help it. One who is genuinely sympathetic should never post someone being weak here, weakness is only mocked
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How bad was it? I haven't actually seen the movie but it still seems like people enjoyed it. I doubt it will make that big of an impact.
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>>153242520
It was pretty good. Animation was good. New voice actors werent bad. Plot is very predictable and a bit rushed at points, but the action sequences were very pretty.
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>>153239858
I did it! I killed their dream, because they killed mine first! They turned Toph into a whore!
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>>153242520
Nothing bad, but nothing good either, mediocre at best.
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>>153242267
It's an Avatar movie, of course it would do well. I have no clue what Paramount was thinking moving it to some streaming service nobody uses instead.
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>>153242386
Bleach takes place in Japan and anime fans also tend to be fans of popular shows like Arcane and Atla. No one petioned for the removal of the original previous VA it was the creators decision
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>>153242520
It was a solid 7/10, meaning it's the best Avatar anything since ATLA ended in 2008.
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>>153242376
Did Elizabeth Ehasz work on that as well? She did some really good episodes in ATLA like Zuko Alone and The Southern Raiders.
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>>153242662
>>153242386
This argument is retarded because all the Bleach VAs are Japanese.
No one cares about dub VAs outside of nostalgiafags, and they're generally irrelevant to the anime market outside of Japan, 99% of dub watchers probably can't name 3 of the English dub VAs for any of the shows they watch.
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>>153242760
she did not, her and Aaron split up.
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>>153239858
Paramount has no one else but themselves to blame for the leak
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>>153242662
>it was the creators decision
No
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>>153242785
>No one cares about dub VAs outside of nostalgiafags
Nostalgic fans are the only ones watching Bleach in first place
>99% of dub watchers probably can't name 3 of the English dub VAs for any of the shows they watch.
Dragon Ball American cast is well known
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>>153242153
>oh yeah you think problem exists well it didn't happen this one time so it NEVER happened and you're a NAZI for thinking it ever did
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>>153241925
Korras issue was that they had trouble making up new villains since the horrible writing behind ATLA makes it effectively dead after the Fire Nation jobs. Shit like Vaatu and the Wan retcon were needed to give Korra something to stand on as ATLA has nothing.
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>>153241244
I can kind of get why this would be disappointing. Now attention is going to be more fragmented when the official release is out since a portion of the audience already watched it months ago. Even if the experience making it sucked, you still want the biggest fan response possible because you can say you worked on a hit when you apply for your next job. It's still fuck Paramount, but I get the perspective.
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>>153242825
Yes it was get over it
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>>153242846
>Dragon Ball American cast is well known
If you asked your average DBZ watcher to name Goku's English VA I can guarantee you that less than 1/5th would give you a correct answer.
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>likely jeet intern responds to baseless DMCA by just DMing the entire movie to some rando
lol
lmao
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>>153242898
I think the real issue is that it's hard to try and adapt more adult issues to kids. I mean it retrospect it made sense that living in a more modern world that benders would have the advantage, but that could have been slightly solved with guns which they couldn't do in a kids cartoon. It doesn't help either that unlike war social issues take way more time and are much more nuanced than just "if we take out the Kung fu KKK leader then racisim will be over!"
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>>153242929
>If you asked your average DBZ watcher
Adult man in their mid 30s that prefer the eng dub
>I can guarantee you that less than 1/5th would give you a correct answer.
Sure next you are going to tell us no one knows who Yuri Lowenthal is.
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>>153243001
>Adult man in their mid 30s that prefer the eng dub
Wait a minute, are you an ESL?
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>>153239858
>NOOOOO STOP ENJOYING FOR FREEE NOOOO
>NO! IT HAS TO BE IN A BIG SCREEN SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE
>NO YOU HAVE TO BUY THE POPCORN OTHERWHISE IT DOESNT COUNT!!
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>>153241244
I can kind of get why this would be disappointing. Now attention is going to be more fragmented when the official release is out since a portion of the audience already watched it months ago. Even if the experience making it sucked, you still want the biggest fan response possible because you can say you worked on a hit when you apply for your next job. It's still fuck Paramount, but I get the perspective.
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>>153243047
No, I just mistyped
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>>153241339
>I'm not firing you, I'm just giving your job to someone else
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>>153242898
The premise of avatar seems pretty simple but also like something that can only be used once: the avatar is born and they go on their avatar journey to master the elements. The first show did this with the spin being that aang had to go on his journey while the world was at war(+genocide).
Korra had no journey, they made her master everything in season1 because they thought it would be retreading old ground. They made her stay in republic city while not allowing her to explore the setting for the same reason.
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>>153239858
Fuck em, the movie was terrible.
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>>153239858

This movie is highly satanic because it promotes the false religion of Buddhism. I'm glad it leaked and Paramount is shutting down this dysmal franchise
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The movie even any good? Never watched Korra or read the comic.
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>>153243083
I think this is the most sensible take. Animators got paid and paramount already decided that they werent playing this in theaters last year, so the leak doesn't change the fact that it wasnt going to play in a theater, BUT as a creator, they want their creation to be a part of the widest public consciousness possible. Leaks like this several months in advance definitely kills hype and ratings and thats unfortunate, but their real grievance should be with paramount
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>>153243165
To quote another anon. It's an aggressive 7/10 movie. And compared to all the crap avatar content post the original series. That's pretty much as close as it gets to being great.
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>>153242153
>Except for the fact that Bleach and Dragon Ball Super voice actors weren't replaced despite being white
>Bleach

Not only you are wrong, but they did try to poison Bleach's dub with that nonsense for its final saga, Wendee Lee was not coming back to voice Yoruichi, once she politely said she would like to keep voicing the character but "circumstances" didn't allow her to the dub fans of Bleach actually put enough pressure on Viz Media to keep Wendee Lee as Yoruichi.
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>>153243165
It's goes well like a hamburger. It's decent fast food in media form.
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>>153239858
>twitter
didnt it get leaked here first? those faggots are stealing our credit unbelievable
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>>153242153
>Except for the fact that Bleach and Dragon Ball Super voice actors weren't replaced despite being white
>Bleach

Not only you are wrong, but they did try to poison Bleach's dub with that nonsense for its final saga, Wendee Lee was not coming back to voice Yoruichi, once she politely said she would like to keep voicing the character but "circumstances" didn't allow her to the dub fans of Bleach actually put enough pressure on Viz Media to keep Wendee Lee as Yoruichi.
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>>153240610
But you needed to insert yourself into the thread
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>>153243327
>>153243390
I've been seeing a lot more of these accidental double posts recently.
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>>153242153
>Except for the fact that Bleach and Dragon Ball Super voice actors weren't replaced despite being white
>Bleach

Not only you are wrong, but they did try to poison Bleach's dub with that nonsense for its final saga, Wendee Lee was not coming back to voice Yoruichi, once she politely said she would like to keep voicing the character but "circumstances" didn't allow her to the dub fans of Bleach actually put enough pressure on Viz Media to keep Wendee Lee as Yoruichi.
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>>153243436
I make them sometimes
posts are taking so long to appear and half the time I get some error message that makes me post again. When I check the thread again I see the post that got an error still went through
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>>153240267
Nah, I prefer the voice actors to be white chads with exaggerated, obviously fake chinese accents.
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>pls support this streaming platform owned by a friend of Donnie
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>>153241925
I don't know how you niggas managed to stomach Korra past season 1 after Pema taught her to be a whore. Millions of little girls watching this shit and being taught that kissing someone's boyfriend is fine.
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>>153243570
Lin couldn't catch a break
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>>153243570
don't forget that the kiss was painted as a joke and that the punchline was seeing bolin cry and run away
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>>153243570
lmao grow a sack
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>>153243528
>coping and seething over Elon in the big 26
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>The secret most powerfullest avatar ever was a tranny
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>>153239858
I watched it. It feels unfinished and the pacing feels off. Like it is fast pacing and almost only the action. Its as if scenes were cut, or the movie is unfinished and only the most important and action heavy scenes are there.
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>>153243492
the weirdest thing isthat there were only 6 million asians+mixes like Keanu in the US in 1990, there are now about 25 million asians+mixes (includes people like jeets) but we have to be subjected to immigrants screaming how they should be in charge in my country, and then crying when their illegal cousin gets deported because south korea expects you to actually get a job or something instead of being a whiny leech for e-fame.
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>>153241980
What revenue, it was going to streaming
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>>153243436
Replies are taking ~2m to post and giving an error at first, people are thinking it didn’t go through the first time
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>>153243636
>watch cuckshit or youre not a real man
No thanks have fun with your cuckslop since that resonates with you so deeply
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>>153243953
God I hate how you ESL retards have ruined this language by not understanding what words mean, I can't wait for your third world shitholes to all follow Brazil's footsteps and implement age verification so you can be blocked from interacting with me without jumping through millions of hoops.
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>>153241232
Retard lmao
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>>153239858
Why in the ever loving fuck are so many people crying about it not being theatres? Out of all the decisions made surrounding this film, why is this the biggest travesty?

Boo-hoo the Jews didn't want to absorb the financial burden and embarrassment of bombing at the box office. Make a better movie next time.
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>>153239858
All i have to say to that is tough titties losers.
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>>153240833
What is FOP? Father Of The Pride?
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>>153239858
Crazy that these losers thought something of this quality would make money on theaters, let alone comparable to whatever shonen kids last showed up to watch.
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>>153244106
Something about them believing movies being more "legitimate" if they get a theatrical release vs straight to stream which is seen as content slop.
After watching this movie I'd say it was aggressively okay. fans and the nostalgic will eat it up but everyone else will just be wondering why a TV special in airing in theaters and wouldnt even care enough to wait for it to drop on stream.
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>>153240175
Yeah, but does anyone know who even did it? Or even if it was accidental?

Because I'm getting the feeling this might have been done out of spite, and that's ONLY if the person who sent it to the leaker isn't a complete and utter retard who was likely inbred.
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>>153239858
How are they not being crucified by the Twitter woke squad for making what is essentially
>White People Orientalism:The Series
and then whitewashing brown characters for white actors twice now?
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>Wendee Lee
She returned after the backlash, this is the complete opposite of what that bitchy anon was saying
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>>153240589
>original VAs
I would give a shit if this was being made shortly after the show ended but it's been fucking decades. Did Zombie Simpsons teach people nothing?
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I make movies. I've had things I spent years creating posted to piracy websites and shared to YouTube without my permission. I've been robbed of accreditation, as well as had to share credit with people who absolutely did not deserve it. I've also lost two years worth of work in a matter of seconds. It never possessed me to be a whiny bitch about it and feel personally slighted since my entire objective was to just get the work out there. Animation, film, video games, comics, they're all contaminated with a bunch of fags who can't stop making their work about them, and not the work itself. Stop being narcissistic pussies. People love your movie, be happy.
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>>153244285
My guess is that ATLA is nostalgic enough to get a pass or that the creators have been playing the twitter game long enough to know how to appease them and not get cancelled. Why do you think they made korasami canon?
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Weird how they blame the general public and not the retards at Paramount that got it leaked in the first place lol
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>we need more race-accurate casting
>none of the casting is accurate to the characters anyway
And why does it matter? They're treating the cultural and religious aspects of the show as a backdrop and window dressing, anyway. If they wanted to be accurate, then make Aang the stereotypical Xianxia cultivator protagonist that really does eschew all worldly desires to actually transcend.
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>only blind chinese women can voice act characters that are blind and vaguely chinese

How did this opinion come about?
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>>153244398
Thats the bizarre thing about this. I see both the diehard bootlickers who are demanding that no one should dare watch the leak and wait 6months and pay for a Paramount+™ subscription, and then the people claiming to create the movie blame everyone including the bootlickers for their show not only leaking but canceling the theatrical release...which are both paramounts fault.
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>>153244403
What bugs me the most with the castings is how:
>Appa and Momo get to have the same actor
>Recast Dante Basco, a Filippino, as Zuko with South Korean Steven Yuen; but also hire Dave Butista, also half Filippino, as the main villain.
>Recast the cabagge merchant when James Sie is LITERALLY RIGHT THERE and working for Viacom on the TMNT P+ cartoon as Splinter.

I swear, DEI is getting out of hand, and somehow is making things ironically more racist than it needs to be.
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>>153244473
>They didnt want philipino playing a vaguely fantasy japanese guy, and recasted him with a more famous Korean voice actor
>the new character that is vaguely fantasy Tibetan is played by a...more famous Philipino voice actor?
Nothing about their casting makes any sense
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>>153242153
Just to skip the name calling, just kill yourself.
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>Sokka was deeply unfunny
>Funniest joke in the entire movie is that Zuko is a looksmaxxer
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>>153239858
thats life.

im just glad to know i wont spend money for a shit movie.
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>>153244518
>Recast Dante Basco, a Filippino, as Zuko with South Korean Steven Yuen
They must've been looking at metrics and believed that the walking dead invincible voice guy would get more normie than thst random raspy voice dude that no one knows. But seriously they could've called Dante, hes not doing anything, and the fans of the show love him
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> This is incredibly disrespectful to all the hard work the artists did
Good, because it was incredibly disrespectful to the audience what the "artists" did.
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>>153240267
I shan't watch it, then. No, I don't care if that means your industry goes out of business and you have to get a real job. Movies, cartoons, comics, and TV shows aren't that important and it would be an objectively good thing for humanity to get used to the idea they're an unnecessary frivolity again.
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>>153239858
It wasn't even coming out in theaters.
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>>153241339
Recast means recasting the role with a new actor. Everyone was recast.
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>>153244049
Grow up weeb
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>>153242128
You can stream videos on there before downloading them to check what they are
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>>153239858
>I don't care about animation!
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>>153244772
>I want MONEY!1!!!
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>>153240096
Because it makes the media DOA.
Whenever something leaks (or even if the release it somewhere first) corporate calls it a loss and abandons the media, even if they could still technically release it. They will get really cold feet and see no point in releasing if they can write it off
Seeing this happen before you are lucky they will allow it to be officially on a streaming service with no promotion. They often may never release it at all like Ren & Stimpy.
Forget if future Avatar stuff will never happen, this might simply never actually get released in an official standing now and become a tax writeoff
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>>153243165
Animation and art is phenomenal.
Voice acting is bleh. It's not the same VAs and the new ones don't have the same performance.
The plot is meh. Nothing outright original or exceptional.
Pacing is fucked. It goes from point to point with no downtime in-between. It needed like 20-30 extra minutes just to space things out a bit.
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>>153244948
I think I speak for everyone when I say, we had enough of Avatar, let it rest.
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>>153241092
They're not succeeding because they're all made for hardcore tournament autists who want degenerate shit, execution and combo heavy gameplay and skill floors so high they start at the ceiling. A game can have depth but still be beginner or casual friendly like Samurai Shodown 7 was but SNK screwed that up with the worst netcode ever created.
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Stop rebooting old shit
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>twitter thread
That aside, why do the leakers do it?
In the old days they did it for publicity, groups like Centropy openly advertised that they got Matrix Reloaded out before release, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LNLVVL5qrQ
There was some movie, can't remember the name, where it was leaked months before release because they got a WP version or something, probably was put out by Centropy too
Are there no names attached to these new leaks? Do they just do it for the hell of it?
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>>153239858
The movie sucks anyway
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>>153239858
>do nothing
>win

Im so based
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>>153241233
Casual when it comes to fighting games here.
The big reason we stopped buying is because there's less and less games in the overall market where the multiplayer is built around playing on the couch with your friends so people don't entertain it as much.
Keep in mind, the "casual to serious player" pipeline for fighting games is way more than others because going online as a relatively new player inherently means getting your ass kicked almost immediately, so you either play local or play a shit ton of training mode getting your combos down with an NPC who won't come close to what you face in other players.
It's just not fun. Even few years back, me and my friends could boot up like, mortal kombat or something and goof around doing fatalities on each other or beat each other up in MvC. But even then, going online meant getting your ass kicked at the lowest skill levels by FGC members.
Now? I can't even fucking fathom it
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I couldnt make it past 10 minutes
Its fucking cringe as fuck garbahe "mmih non benders are so le oppressed"
Fuck youuuuuuuuu
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>>153241633
Is it really any wonder people would rather go full Hitler than have to deal with hypocrisy about non Whites feeling entitled to be in media made in nations that were supposed to be by and for Whites?
Whites who whine about not being in anime are fucking laughed at, only the Western propagandized White has this mental illness where they have outgroup preference to such a huge degree and despise their own people and culture and the powers that be have a vested interest in that state of affairs. So much easier to rule over a demoralized people ashamed of themselves and who extol being a pacified loser over and who care about random brown people over their own countrymen. The rest of the people who believe in that shit are just raiders abusing the idiocy of the true believers to get free shit and preferential status in a society they feel literally no loyalty to.
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>>153247523
To devalue animators work of course
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>>153241339
Retards like you claim to support workers and cultural works but this is literally hiring scabs to replace you on your job for no other reason than they tick boxes that ideologues and suits like. Probably can pay them less too.
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>>153244473
>How did this opinion come about?
2020, Floyd riots somehow became "ONLY POC CAN VOICE POC!" and that branched off into only ___ can voice ___, so if the character is blind, the voice actor has to be blind too.

I've even seen some say Samurai Jack shouldn't have been voice by a black man.
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Just saw it, it was really boring and pointless
Also no Azula anywhere which is the only reason I was interested
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>>153241153
Indeed, this project was cursed from the start. It's best to scrape it for memes and move onward.
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>>153241153
They got what they fucking deserved.
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I don’t understand the mental calculus of the animators here. Don’t they understand that any effort which might probably enrich Paramount (like, through animating a movie which haa good chance of doing more than breaking even if not pulled from theaters) then specifically enriches the direct owner whose main claim is being a hyper-Zionist billionaire reactionary scion? They’re literally muh killing children in Palestine or whatever.

Animators are all hypocrite class-traitor retards
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>>153250630
>class
lmao you retarded marxist, there are no classes
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>>153239858
In a perfect world the blowback from this would cause the IP to get a hard reboot
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>>153239858
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>>153240267
But white characters should also be voiced by minorities as well too
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>>153249581
>>I've even seen some say Samurai Jack shouldn't have been voice by a black man.

That one was more because Phil LaMarr was championing the whole PoC Characters should only be voiced by their respective PoC’s thing. So people were like “okay so that means you won’t voice Jack anymore or any of the white characters you play” and he immediately backtracked and was like “only White people can’t voice PoC’s”
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>>153241153
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