It just makes sense
>>153250568>Cause like fire and water are like opposites man
>>153250568Cause like motherly and angst are great combos.
Be careful, zutara shippers are known to bake needle cookies
>>153250575No, because of chemistry and narrative reasons. I believe it would've been better for Aang's character development too. His attachment to Katara felt slightly unhealthy to me.
>>153250568It is a moral duty to disappoint Zutara shippers.
>>153250568NO
>>153250714It's been 18 years. It is impossible to disappoint or defeat us. Our will is iron, our hearts are pure.
>>153250568Who would the nobles be more accepting of? Zuko taking a water tribe woman, and earth kingdom woman, or his own sister?
>>153250768His own sister. Preserve the bloodline.
Zutara... But only for rule 63.
>>153250768Azula is the only logical choice
>>153250568I support Zutara as a vehicle for Aang x Meng instead.
>>153250790>rule 63
>>153250811The person behind this post has brown skin, two pigtails, and a gap between their teeth.
>>153250606They have literally no chemistry unless you're talking about fire and water again.
>>153250760thanks for the ancient blanket fic flashbacks
>>153250568Shippers should be hunted down and shot.
>>153250606What narrative reasons?
>>153250874It complements the themes of redemption, forgiveness, and love overcoming hatred beautifully. Zuko's relationship with Katara is already a big part of his redemption story. The way that connection saves him in the end after he got shot with lightning, was a perfect capstone to how much he had grown as a person. He had earned the trust and love of someone who hated him; from someone he was raised to believe he was superior to. I think if they had fleshed out that connection more it could've been an even more powerful moment. It would perfectly exemplified what Iroh said about the arbitrary divisions between people - how the four nations are illusory. How war divides people who would otherwise be capable of finding love with another. Katara's journey is largely about learning to forgive, and let go. To see things as less black and white. Her relationship with Zuko is obviously a big part of that personal journey already, but again could've been elevated had they fleshed it out more. I also think they set it up really well with the parallel to the mythic story of Oma and Shu - two lovers divided by opposing sides of war, whose union helps brings about an era of peace. It would've been neat if they had mirrored this with Zuko and Katara as it would've leant the story a more mythic quality.
>>153251009Finally, as mentioned, Aang's romance with Katara is a detriment to his character arc. As shown in The Guru, Aang's love for Katara in a sense filled the void left by the airbender genocide. Now obviously, him finding new love is a good thing, but this connection felt to me slightly unhealthy. There's a neediness bordering on desperation regarding his affection with Katara, like when he threw himself onto her with Ember Island Players. He doesn't just like her, he needs to know they're going to be together forever. I don't think this reading is intentional, but it's how it came across to me. I don't expect a kids' show to get too dark with this, but it would've been interesting to see a more in-depth exploration into Aang's psychological state. He lost every single person he cared about. It makes sense that he would latch onto a loving figure like Katara so tightly. But how would he deal with that if he felt that she was forming a closer connection with someone else? Especially in the wake of his failure to save the Earth Kingdom. On the brink of total fire nation victory. They really could've gone to some interesting places with Aang's character in season 3, which a Zuko/Katara romance would've fueled the flames of (heh) excellently. It's funny, how with Bryke's interest in love triangles, they missed the one time it would've actually been narratively interesting to go there.
>>153250606oh and when Zuko held Katara and her pendant didn't? Go back to ao3 you rape fetishit
>>153251428I find it funny how you anti-zutarans ignore Zuko's character arc when it's convenient. "Zuko's a rapist colonizer piece of shit, just forget everything that happened after episode 9!"
>>153250568
>>153250568I've said it before and I'll say it again: the only reason Zutara is popular is because it wasn't in the show. The avatar writers fucking SUCK at writing romance. If Zutara was in the show, Kataang would have the same cult following zutara has now. Possibly a following even made of the same people
>>153251019I feel as though it's far less mature for a story to upend an otherwise healthy relationship due to one moment of dysfunction between them. And nobody likes to admit this, but Aang kinda had some point to be upset with Katara in Ember Island Players. Aang obviously handled the situation poorly, but Kataras's inaction and lack of commitment in their relationship deserves some flack here too. You could go as far as to argue her own inability to communicate is what caused this misunderstanding to begin with. She doesn't even give a good reason for stalling either just "muh confused".
>>153251531Nah, most of the shippers are women who are self inserting, Zuko is more traditionally attractive to that audience compared to the child coded bald monk. That's it.
>>153251599That was just an example. The point is that Aang's attachment to Katara was not entirely healthy to begin with. He made an assumption they were going to be together despite no conversation about what their relationship was, betraying a real lack of maturity. I don't want to overstate it, but what Aang did is literally assault. I don't think Aang is a bad person, just young, and dealing with a lot of trauma/stress, that unfortunately the show was reluctant to explore fully. I don't think he was ready to be in a romantic relationship with anybody. >And nobody likes to admit this, but Aang kinda had some point to be upset with Katara in Ember Island PlayersNobody admits that because it's retarded. Katara did nothing wrong. Aang sprung it on her out of nowhere, and there wasn't an appropriate time to discuss it after. Blaming Katara is an insane take.
>>153251673You talk as if Aang just hallucinated their entire connection together, as if Katara hadn't initiated plenty of hugs and kisses prior to Ember Island Players. That expectation of a relationship didn't just appear out of thin air, and yeah Katara's lack of communication/clarity on that front deserves some criticism.
>Zutara>no Azu-ko
>>153250843I mean neither does marcelline and PB
>>153250568Can we have a single western cartoon where the female lead gets the hot guy for a change? I'm tired of betas
>>153252177female hands typed this post
>>153251721that's his sister, you silly goose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRxtWMODfAc&t=117s
>>153251531They would've fucked it up, but Kataang would not be nearly as popular. They needed to force it for people to accept it.
>>153251531They were pretty good with Zutara without even trying.
>>153251720>kissesShe might have kissed him on the cheek before but Aang is the one who grabs her on the Day of Black Sun and kisses her. Then he kisses her again at the Ember Island players and Katara admits she's actually not sure how she feels. Iirc this never actually gets resolved Katara just reciprocates in the finale.
>>153251720>You talk as if Aang just hallucinated their entire connection together, Not that anon but yeah
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>>153253096Ok bro
>>153250575Adding fire to water naturally boils it and makes it hot and steamy. Adding water to fire tempers it and makes it manageable.Air doesn't do either of these things to water. Adding water to air just makes the water go right through, and it's impossible to add air to water without the human touch forcibly doing so. Do you understand?
>>153253154>it's impossible to add air to water without the human touch forcibly doing soNobody tell this guy how clouds or waves are formed
>>153252217And?https://youtube.com/watch?v=LRCF1KDfj-8
>>153250606Chemistry is done in a lab under controlled conditions. Neither of them had romantic interest in each other. Stop inserting as Katara.
>there are Zutara shippers in 2026I thought the Zukka uprising killed all of them
>screwed up by the war>mommy issues>sibling responsibilities >water & fire>prince and pauper>more mature and less silly compared to the rest of the cast>both attractiveThe appeal is pretty clear
>>153254501All of that is surface level nonsense by someone who doesn't hang around people enough. They'll bond over stuff like that for sure, but it's very doubtful that Zuko and Katara personality-wise are compatible with each other enough to form a romantic relationship
>>153250768taking a foreign queen to gain a foothold in influence/political partnerships is a tale as old as time. in a post war scenario, you need to bolster your allies even when your still the most powerful power so the others get ideas of trying you. The fire nation forming a strategic alliance with the southern water tribe under the guise of reparations/ rebuilding makes perfect sense and i really got to get around to writing a fic for it.
>>153251531Oh i agree. we've seen what zutara under bryke would look like in korra. this is one of the rare occasions where you dont your ship to be canon. those too dorks just cant write
>>153252185and these male hands agree. betafaggotry is bad for us too.
>>153254492Zukka is a meme that exists only in ao3. no one actually cares about fujos
>>153255260 There is nothing more beta than indulging women's hygeramist fantasies
>>153255323>hygeramistAlphas do not relate to these kinds of stories, nothing is more beta than a story where the woman eventually settles on you at the very end. It's not a coincidence that the only ship in this series that men and women like was Sokka and Suki.
>>153255456An "alpha" doesn't impotently seethe about someone else's success 18 years after the fact. Feeding into the proclivities of shippers hasn't lead to more stories about "alphas" it's instead lead to male leads being pushed aside almost completely in favor of weepy dykeshit
>>153250568I shall once again remind people of what is actually up.
>>153255681>"alpha" doesn't impotently seethe about someone else's success 18 years after the fact>Feeding into the proclivities of shippers hasn't lead to more stories about "alphas" it's instead lead to male leads being pushed aside almost completely in favor of weepy dykeshitCorrect, and bryke are the perfect example of everything you just said because they've been doing both of these things for years KEK
>>153250568I prefer Zoph
>>153250568it makes sense because Aang is bald, short, poor and too much of a doormat, too nice, he doesn't deserve Katara, he's a loser incel
>>153256699>"he's a loser incel">Canonically pulls more girls than anyone on this thread
>>153250568Choosing Kataang over Zutara was the original sin of the franchise. It permanently poisoned the well.
