nobody cares anymore
>>153279342define nobody, since I saw someone with a superman shirt on the streetso clearly SOMEbody cares as opposed to NObody
>>153279342Goku is stronger.
>>153279342I care that we finally got a reasonably good Superman movie after almost half a century.
>>153279342When no one cares. 2pac cares
>>153279420Didn't do well though.
>>153279342The shills are silently weeping that their campaign did absolutely nothing to save this film from its utterly mediocre performance. They're going to try the same schtick with the Supergirl movie, but that one's even more of a mediocre Gunn retread, so they'll fil extra hard when it flops.
>>153279497are we just making things up now?
>>153279390Kill yourself weeb.
>>153279504No, just (You)
>>153279504Did you forget what the Netlfix CEO said? It had a short theater window because it underperformed and was a disappointment internally.
>>153279502If Superman couldn't make it, then Supergirl sure as hell isn't.
>>153279515>and was a disappointment internally.now you are really making things upWB was internally quite happy with the outcome and was a reason why they went ahead with supergirl
>>153279522https://x.com/damiebi10/status/2018800858998407228?s=20Video and all.
>>153279526>netflixas mentioned, warner brothers was expecting superman 2025 to only be a modest success because snyder tarnished their reputation and superhero movies are no longer the same sure betso superman actually did much better than they were expecting to beif superman really did badly, they would have pulled the plug on it and then doubled down on batman
>>153279522>WB was internally quite happy with the outcomeDon't tell me you have stock in WB and actually believe the things they tell you in the shareholder newsletter.
>>153279545>lets ignore reality and what people have actually said
>kike supermanPack it up in preparation for public domain. It's over. Nothing like picrel will ever be made again as a private domain IP.
nobody cares about capeshit in general the 2010s golden age of capeshit is over and only marvel rode the wave while DC played catch up the whole time. now its overanyways, superman is boring to the youth, teen titans are more popular because everyone is fapping to raven and starfire hentai
>>153279536>snyder tarnished their reputationGet some new material.>>153279548Projecting
>>153279567>Projectingyou say that while pretending superman 2025 is a flop because you felt it
Superman's for nerds. That's why he doesn't resonate. He isn't cool and is pretty lame compared to the characters he's inspired.
>>153279575Meds, Supernerd.
>>153279588its just a bit ironic that you complain about re-used material while re-using every single word you say from a list of talking points
>>153279558Nobody wants a Superman 4 movie
>>153279599Don't reply to me. Fuck off and activate that Samson option.
>>153279342>NOOOO WHY AREN'T PEOPLE OBSESSED ABOUT A MOVIE THAT CAME 9 MONTHS AGO!!!!
>>153279987MoS came out 13 years ago and is still talked about.
>>153280005whatever metric you use to define MOS as "still being talked about" would also apply to superman 2025
>>153280005Mainly for it being controversial as fuck and that version of the character reappearing down the line
>>153279342Good, this movie is highly satanic because Hawkgirl is the whore of Babylon and kills the metaphor for Israel
>>153280032Kys, subhuman troon
>>153279342Shortening attention spans will do that to ye. It's too bad, since Gunn Superman's follow-up is releasing relatively soon after, yet I'm not seeing nearly as much excitement...
>>153279342You did
>>153280812Supergirl is not as known as Superman, and we're at a point with capeshit where people aren't disposed to show up for characters they're not familiar with (specially overseas). It's also sandwiched between TS5 and Minions so it has an uphill battle.
>>153279508still looks better than western animation
>>153279508Better animated than Invincible.
>>153279342Libshits only pretended to care because of the immigration angle.
>>153281722I liked the film but the immigration angle was poorly handled. And with Gunn being liberal, I genuinly don't understand how he didn't realize it.
The>I'M A PUNK ROCKER YES I AMscene almost had me belt out laughing in the theater. Why was so much of this film edited like one of those /pol/ Hyperborea shitposts?
They abuse the John Williams theme in this.
Of all the people they could have gotten to play Superman, they chose a fruity jew.
>>153279420Good? Superman loses every fight, and the movie loses 67M in the box office.
>>153281853What do you mean abuse? It only plays constantly every 3 minutes!!I never thought I could hate a theme song before this movie.
>>153279504You want evidence then, anon?Production costs: 225M budget + 125 M marketing = 350M.Box office earnings: 354M domestic (-50% for theater fees, so 177M domestic) + 264M internatioanl (-60% theater fees is 105M) = 289M earnings.289M earnings - 350M production cost = 61M LOSSES. > But they're making Supergirl so how is it possible?Are you retarded? They make these movies with park money, not with theater profits money. One money losing money does not stop the others, especially when they were already in production. That's one reason, the second reason is that these movies are made solely to burn money that would've been taxed by the government anyway. When your park makes 1B in a year, 40% belongs to the state, unless your company re-invests it, so they make movies with that 40% rather than giving it to the gorbo.
>>153282637Damn guys we got a real Hollywood insider here, he obviously knows his shit and isn’t pulling numbers out of his ass
>>153282665The numbers are freely accessible, you retard. I was even lowballing the marketing costs so odds are it lost even more than that. Do your own research.
jewish superman>>153279420"good" he acts like a snoyboyyou all hate mos cause boohoo the big grey buildings collapsed when two god tier beings were punching each other and there were no funnies to laugh at
>>153282702Fuck off, faggot
>>153282707cope
>>153279342Superman peaked with Snyder.
>>153279342
>>153282678>Do your own researchOh you’re one of those
>>153282726>peaked with SnyderOn its first weekend then cratered by 70% on its second. A world record…until Snyder released the sequel and it dropped 75% on its second weekend
>>153281722Chuds started by calling the movie Superwoke before it was released. But yeah, upper class liberals saw Superman multiple times because for them it was a symbolic victory against Trump. Supergirl is trying to replicate the formula with girl power instead but it's been done to death at this point
>>153282781>saddest subreddit of all timeThat's got to be r/childfree.
>>153284450>But yeah, upper class liberals saw Superman multiple times because for them it was a symbolic victory against TrumpYou're getting this mixed up with Hamilton.
>>153282726Reminder that Snydersupes died because after successfully jamming a kryptonite spear into Doomsday he then tried to push it out the other end which meant he was basically fighting to get the radioactive rock OUT of his opponent's body and that's what got his dumb ass killed.
>>153279342Nobody even cared at the time, let's be honest.
It's a weird movie. Structurally and narratively. Also the costume sucks.
>>153279342I liked this movie, liked how it introduced a precursor to the Justice League im a real sucker for the evolution of groups like that, loved how it showed Luthor's bastard antics, also>1A! 1A!! 1A!!!
>>153283423Still made more money than 2025's despite cratering lmao
>>153284713Upper class liberals can like both.
>>153279342well it was a bad movie.
>>153284898But not more than a Captain America movie, a Thor movie, an Iron Man movie, and Zootopia
>>153279342Supergirl is coming up and they just started filming Man of Tomorrow. Cope harder.
>>153285326They'll make even less and be forgotten even quicker lmao
Peacemaker S2 honestly kinda killed a lot of the goodwill for Gunn's DCU.Here's hoping Supergirl and Clayface are good, and that they finally figure out what to do with Batman and Wonder Woman.
>>153285060It was funny hearing Gunn say it was the hardest he's ever worked on a film when it was just his usual garbage
>>153279522They were filming Supergirl before Superman came out.Also Ted Saranados unpromptedly said that Superman underperformed in his senate hearing
>>153285458Spoiler for you: they won't be good
>>153285283?????Yes it did. Anon check the numbers you fucking retard.
>>1532872002013>Iron Man 3 1.2 billion>Man of Steel 670 million2016>Batman v Superman 873 million>Captain America Civil War 1.15 billion
>>153279369WB's just had a huge firesale on merch, you probably saw a guy who gets his clothes from charity
>>153285458His great idea for Wonder Woman was to make an amazons show without Wonder Woman.
>>153279342Nobody cared whennit came out either
Why did you faggots have to obsess over the stupidest, most boring, most asinine franchise ever? Everything Zack Snyder directs is garbage. You come up with these stupid head canons to explain away the massive plot holes and retardness of these movies and work yourself into a shoot convincing yourself Snyder is some sort of auteur genius but when he tries to prove he’s a genius by showing off his deep metaphors it’s stupid shit like “I put Clark in front of a stained glass window of Jesus to show he’s like Jesus” or “I wanted to subtly show the audience that Bruce is a masochist by putting a Mapplethorpe over his bed” You retards could’ve put this energy into something worthwhile like Raimi’s Spider-Man or even Ang Lee’s Hulk but nooooooo you had to obsess over the literal worst one. Fucking. Retards.
>>153289163Somebody doesn't care if they threaten their Mother.
>>153288670MANY people cared, actually.
>>153291716Only chuds and liberals. The rest of the world didn't care
anything after the Snyderverse looks small and feeble. admit it.
>>153289163>Why did you faggots have to obsess overWhere the hell do you think you are? It's literally the only thing 4chan does, and they do it about everything. You look in the right thread and you'll see people having exactly this same level of autistic bullshit about petty grammar disagreements.
>>153279342It was mid, the only reason people talked about it was due to Snyder v Gunn or the pseudo pallywood slop. Outside of that as a film, Superman barely the main character it would be more accurate to call it Superman and the Justice Gang.
>>153291716>MANY people cared, actually.Not even half of the amount who cared about the Man of Steel.
>>153279342I watched it recently, having heard plenty of good things about it. My only personal complaints were Ma and Pa were almost... Too simple? I get the charm they're going for, but they don't seem like they'd raise Superman, just a decent farm boy. I don't like the twist of Krypton Bad typically, it's sort of a tangle that's mainly just to pay off as cheap conflict. That much is in here too. More nitpicky, the time it takes for Superman to be helped in prison should've led to a dead baby, realistically, so I just would've trimmed that scene.>Muh punk rockVague /co/ glances had me assume that was a Whole Thing, something that absolutely ruins the movie or its ending. It's just kinda corny. But it's Clark, so that's whatever.
>>153292485Clark being corny feels right.
>>153292634>Clark being corny feels right.He's called super-man not beta-man.
>>153292657>He used to give batman piggy back rides with robinyeah he was a real alpha edgelord
>>153279342Open the door.Now.
>>153282702>snoyboyWe are bringing playstation into this now? What the fuck are you talking about?
>>153292245Man of Steel was released at the height of the super hero boom where super hero movies were regularly pulling in over a billion dollars. Superman was released post-Covid where hardly any movie is breaking a billion, the super hero bubble has burst and not even MCU movies or Avatar are guarantees anymore. With all that in mind Man of Steel just barely managed to outgross Superman. Also Man of Steel cratered its second weekend, an historic 70% drop that held that record until the next Zack Snyder DC movie came out and managed to crater even worse its second weekend with a 75% drop. Second weekend drops are the real determining factor on if a studio is happy or not. If a movie craters its second weekend that means John Q Public didn’t like it enough to bother seeing it again. See also Ang Lee’s Hulk, Bryan Singer’s Superman Returns
>>153292965>ExcusesWhere were these excuses when you said Superman 2025 would easily break a billion, frog boy?
>>153293056I never said it was going to break a billion. The damage Zack Snyder did to the DC brand is going to take a while to undo. And if you want excuses ask a Snyderfag how Batman v Superman was unable to clear a billion when a fucking Captain America movie easily sailed past a billion just a month later, a Thor movie cleared a billion a year later, and a goddamn Captain Marvel movie cleared a billion. Yet the first movie ever to feature the world’s two biggest super heroes was unable to crack that billion why is that?
>>153293111>The damage Zack Snyder did to the DC brandWhat damage?
>>153288445have you considered they just like 2025 superman?that seems like the simplest explanation
>>153293171Nah, it was a dogshit movie. Like the guy said, they expected the merch to sell a lot better than it did. So now you can get a Superman shirt for like $2.There are Superman 2025 fans, but they're the dirt of society.
It's weird how the steady decline of the global economy, starvation of funding to theaters and ever-increasing reliance on streaming media never seems to factor into these discussions. Like this seems like it requires more complicated math than "people spend no money, no want product".Like the fact that the movie involved Superman beating up an Israeli warlord to save arabs seems like as much of a reason for it doing poorly as anything else you guys are throwing around, if it even did poorly.
>>153293261First you blame Snyder, then you blame superhero fatigue, then you blame the economy...How about you simply admit that Gunn is a hack?
>>153293227>There are Superman 2025 fans, but they're the dirt of society.No, the dirt of society is Snyderfags. It’s mathematically provable.
>>153293300How’s Rebel Moon doing, anon? Any word on the third movie or the cartoon or the video game?
>>153293303>>153293318>Snyder out of nowhereLike clockwork
>>153292485>My only personal complaints were Ma and Pa were almost... Too simple? I get the charm they're going for, but they don't seem like they'd raise Superman, just a decent farm boy.That's how Ma and Pa are supposed to be. Their simple charm raised Clark to eventually be Superman by his own decision, they didn't give him superhero lessons from when he was a child.
>>153293478>That's how Ma and Pa are supposed to be.Borderline parody shitkickers?
Lois was hot>
>>153288599That entire slate was created just to please shareholders.
>>153292634I can accept him being corny, I just dread to think of dorks getting "kindness is the real punk rock" tattoos or something.>>153292657Being corny doesn't mean you can't be super. Besides, he's Superman because of his powers, being kinda nerdy won't change that.
>>153293478Oh I didn't want them to be heroes of the dirt who constantly gave him guidance and wisdom, but idunno they just seemed kinda simple. Like they could raise a good boy maybe, but just as easily have no clue what they're doing with a kid. I guess it's just because they weren't focal, I don't need them to be Young Hot Aunt May or anything. I was charmed enough.
>>153294378>Being corny doesn't mean you can't be super.It does. If you're not the best you can be then you're not super.>Besides, he's Superman because of his powers,That's kind of flat isn't it? Also shouldn't the same argument apply to Zod and Mongul the others then?>being kinda nerdy won't change that.Sounds like cope.Cavill made Clark dignified. The exact amount of nerdy that's acceptable.
>>153279342Should have stuck with Snyder instead of that other cuck.
>>153279342im a punk culturally irrelevant yes i am
>>153280021ZSJL still gets a shit ton of figures made every year that easily sell out. Mcfarlane still got a new wave of BvS last year. And they announced even more. Superman couldnt even finish the main characters before being discounted to hell. There are no Guy/Hawk mcfarlanes and there wont be any. Superjew was selling at discount after 10 days.Meanwhile Mcfarlane even sells Jared Letos from Suicide Squad in fucking 2026.Also every fucking new brand literally starts up by releasing ZSJL figures. Innart/psertoys/fondjoy. Fondjoy went from Z tier brand tobecoming the best movie action figures at that price point.So yes, its fucking irrelevant. 6 months and doesnt move merch anymore. Imagine thinking it will sell toys in 13 years like MoS is still doing.
>>153285458Imagine putting 2 R rated shows before Superman, and then the direct sequel to Superman is another season of said R rated show. But Superman movie is a saturday morning cartoon for kids, which is not bad, but if you are entering the new "universe" you want to watch everything and your main movie is for kids, but the rest of it is R rated. Utterly retarded. It should be a single show R rated, and not connected to the main movie.
>>153279342>People aren't talking about a movie that came out 9 months ago!Ok?like 2 wars broke out since this movie came out anon
>>153294604That doesnt stop BvS from daily discussion.
>>153294438He's a superhero, kindness is his MO, corniness doesn't interfere whatsoever. The others are also super, yes, they just don't go by it as far as title. Did you think their powers came from wearing stern looks and dark colors?
>>153292230>Snyder v GunnThe dumbest thing about that fandom war is that they're good friends in real life
>>153293122Aquaman was literally made with the intent to be as removed tonally from the Snyder films as possible. And yes, Snyder was seen as a problem even at WB, who were expecting a billy with BvS and panicked over the film's overly negative reception.>But look at the numbers2016-2019 was peak capeshit era, everything was making bank those days. That a genuinely godawful movie like Suicide Squad made that much money tells you everything.
>>153279342Only powerscalers care about him and the movie just had him jobbing against literal fucking whos
I've never seen an accurate, honest criticism of Snyder or Gunn here. Just internet fags desperate to be seen as funny
>>153282637these are movies to sell toys and shit, I suppose they made the money back, Supergirl on the other hand will lose money and Warner will reboot again just after, idk if they'll release Man of Tomorrow.
>>153285458I liked his Superman but Pacemaker S2 had such a retarded plot. S1 wasn't great or anything but it didn't meander or feel like it lacked action like 2 did.
>>153294615Yeah but that's because BvS is a lolcow of a movie and very fun to make fun of
Say what you will about Snyder's take on Superman, his movies looked great.
>>153279342I watched the movie, it was awful. It was awful in a different way than previous awful Superman movies, but there's many paths to the same mountaintop as the chinks say.
>>153297500No they don't
>>153279504Yes. They wanted it to be a failure so very bad.
>>153280005People still talk about bad movies all the time
>>153284898EVERY cape movie was making crazy money back then. This was at the height of the genres popularity and pre-covid.
>>153297708Nah, it was just Marvel making the money. DC tried to make a Marvel rip off to cash in on the hype.
>>153297668It was a failure. Making less than Man of Steel even unadjusted for inflation, a movie WB was disappointed in the perfomance of, shows that this new universe is also going to die like the Snyderverse.
>>153297752True, but you can't compare box office numbers back then to the numbers today. It was an entirely different environment.
>>153297500Superman 2025 looks like a car commercial.
>>153297757Keep dreaming, fag, there are several projects still coming
How more times is Gunn gonna go to the Farscape well?
>>153297752Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Joker were all pretty succesful. There's obviously flops here and there but it was a far more welcoming enviroment for capeshit. Even if the movies were "just okay" (which was most of the MCU despite what it's fanboys tell you), that was a guarantee for having a good run. Just last year three superhero films got good reviews and all of them struggled at some degree at the box office.
>>153279390>Jobku out of nowhereKek
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Apologize
>>153298043Jilted fiveheaded Lois still sucks.The game was fun.
>>153298027Yes, Snyderfags think about him all day. The rest of us enjoy good movies
Am I allowed to hate Snyder AND Gunn? As in, without liking or defending either one of them? Is that possible?
>>153298118Well Snyder is a decent family man and Gunn is pedo.
>>153298118Yes. It means you're either a fan of DCAU films or don't care for DC movies at all.
well yeah, we live in a time where people consume and move on at an insane rate.the only current era things that really stay talked about are things that go over a long period.
>>153298196There's also the fact that movies aren't the center of popular culture anymore, videogames have been displacing them as a medium as the main form of media engagement.
>>153298118as long as you like 2003 hulk, raimi spiderman, hbo's spawn, and first punisher movie then yes you are just like me
>>153298196Nice cope
>>153298516Nigga there were people in here unironically spamming "no cultural impact" about Zootopia 2 only a week after it released
>>153298533That movie made a billion dollars. Superman got shilled HARD and didn't make half that.
>>153298540How does Superman do a bit better in the box office than fucking Sonic?
>>153298551Capeshit fatigue + Tarnished brand + Superman not being big overseas. The film did well in the U.S but underperformed internationally.
>>153298607>Tarnished brandNice try, Supernerd.
>>153288185You said ANY iron man, captain America or Thor movie. So I picked the first one of each to compare it to MoS. They lost massively. Heck, I'm pretty sure Captain America lost a lot of money, comparison aside.
Superman is for redditors
>>153298665I'm refering to Superman specifically, not only DC. Like the character or not, it's undeniable he was in a rough spot amongst general audiences.
It's good :)
>>153298679This we are an Batman site (4 chan)
Dude I'm different than all the other capeshit, because I represent hope and being kind and always helping everyone or something.*kills and punches the bad guy's teeth out for having different politics than him, just like every other capeshit ever*
>>153297775The DCEU had films planned too, my retarded friend. Then they started to lose money.
>>153298683>it's undeniable he was in a rough spot amongst general audiences.I don't think so. Majority of people bitching were Supernerds like Mark Waid crying Murderman everywhere. Dude was getting called a brooding psychopath and everything. Just a whole lot of sperging.
>>153298697>punches a guy's teeth out>presses a normal man up against a cactus and brags about smelling his piss (wtf)>spergs out over being criticized for escalation of a foreign conflict>threatens Luthor over a missing superdog>leaves a clone with no free will to die in a blackholeKindness is the new punk rock :)
>>153298737"I'm different than other heroes because I'm kind and I'm all about kindness!" *lasers a thousand of your workers to death* "Free Palestine!"It inspired me to be a Better Man.
>>153298732Even before that there was Superman Returns which got a lukewarm reception.
>>153298785Superman just isn't it.
>>153295026>Losing to Lex, his arch nemesis>Losing to a chunk of kryptonite, his iconic weakness and that even coined a new term for weakness>Losing to someone just as strong as Superman>Losing to, yes, one literally who, who was stated to have been modified with defeating him in mind, and whom he manages to beatI wouldn't say that's jobbing. Especially since you weren't meant to think of any of those as "woah, such a badass villain they can even beat SUPERMAN"
>>153298697When "different politics" is "I wanna invade their land, make it mine, slaughter every last one of their kind, and sell what's left to Lex" yeah that requires something beyond Talk No Jutsu. He's a super hero, he still acts in the name of good and kindness. This is like complaining Spider-Man is mean to his villains and beats the hell out of them instead of befriending them and letting them rob banks because they really need the money. Go watch Steven Universe if you need love and kindness to be a shackle.
>>153298792This further proves that Spider-Man and Batman will be the only superheroes constantly getting movies even after the genre completely dies out. They're just on a bigger level of recognition and marketability.
>>153298753Also a Better Movie
>>153299318>we must be... bettermanTurned it off then and there
>>153294617>He's a superhero, kindness is his MO, corniness doesn't interfere whatsoever.So is Ironman, he's not corny
>>153283398>No, it's your job to spoon me shit.LolLmao even
Snyder vs Gunn are an even gayer version of "western vs eastern" threads.Because both directors are shit who can only make one type of film.
>>153299521gunn can at least move on, snyder still posts shit about his dc movies
>>153299542>Well at least-I don't care, faggot. No superman film will even be as good as superman 2. Cope.
>>153299552>muh donnerit's only memorable for the music
>>153298901Don't act like he's any different then. He's a basic bitch capeshitter no different or more "inspirational" than any of them. "Help" to my side, Death to yours.
>>153298674I said A Captain America movie, Iron Man movie, and Thor movie. Why would I compare movies that came out different summers under different circumstances? And really Man of Steel is the sixth Superman movie, doesn’t matter if it’s a “reboot” it’s still the sixth movie.
>>153298732>Majority of people bitching were Supernerds like Mark Waid crying Murderman everywhereAsk literally any normie about Man of Steel and they’re going to say “is that the depressing one where Superman breaks a guy’s neck at the end?”
>>153299468>I know better than people who actually work in the industry and have this as their job and career because I have done my own biased research and ignored anything that didn’t support what I want to believe t. literally every faggot on the internet with a superiority complex since Jenny McCarthy
>>153299691People only remember it for the DBZ fight scenes. Stop lying.
>>153299721>t. Corporate dick riderAnd he does it for free
>>153299542>snyder still posts shit about his dc moviesI remember before Rebel Moon came out he was going on and on about how he’s moved on from DC and would never ever ever want to revisit the “Snyderverse” then Rebel Moon comes out with the worst thud in cinematic history and he’s back to posting DC shit and telling his cult “well Y’know never say never about me coming back to finish Justice Leagues 2 and 3 ^_~” knowing full well WB wants nothing to do with him and he’s just hoping his cult will keep harassing WB to hire him again
>>153299434He called a guy with no nose Squidward. He's plenty corny in his own way. But even someone like Batman, who's much nore serious, doesn't really contradict my argument. I said corniness doesn't interfere. It's optional, and Clark has it, and he's not alone in it. When someone can save everyone inside a building and throw cars around, you tend to not give a shit if they're a little goofy.
>>153299723>DBZI said “normies” not weebs and blacks.
"Kindness is the new Punk Rock!! We're all Human.""Except if you disagree with me on Israel, then you need to be carbombed. By human I mean American jews, women and blacks only. Anyone not on my side of history isn't part of Kindness. I'm so Kind and Inspirational."
>>153299738I’d rather be a corporate dick rider than simp for a talentless hack director that has to rely on an army of autists and Indians to try and get work
>>153299779>jewsjewsjewsjewsSuperman literally threatens Netanyahu and makes him piss himself in this movie, anon
>>153299628He is different. He's symbolic of the good in and for humanity, fighting for justice isn't flowing against that. >Help to my side, death to yoursI must've missed the part where Clark reversed the genocide by slaughtering the other side. As far as I saw he only killed immediate threats trying to kill him. Hell he didn't even kill Lex, after all the shit he pulled.
>>153299788>I’d rather simp.for one multi-millionaire than anotherYou're a faggot.
>>153298129>Well Snyder is a decent family manNot according to his daughter
>>153299779>Except if you disagree with me on [not the point of the movie], then [shit that didn't happen in the movie]. Also [schizobabble unrelated to the movie]. How separate from reality can someone be before they're no longer considered a citizen of it.
>>153298698Thanks for pointing out the failure of the Snyderverse
>>153298118Sure, both are capeshit directors, you could include Waititi and the Russo, maybe even Michael Bay and Uwe Boll.
>>153300755>Russoit's impressive just how bad they are without marvel
>>153301200They are just bad but without the Disney media empire, they're exposed as the hacks they are
>>153299807He killed a bunch of Lex’s flying soldiers and his team who he works with killed countless hundreds of the soldiers as well as graphically killing their prime minister
>>153299807If you’re “symbolic of the good in and for humanity” by doing just the same basic “ME GOOD YOU BAAD ME KILL YOU FOR BEING MY ENEMY” shit they literally all do, then he’s not different he’s just a narcissist.
>>153279342i like the movie
>Libnigs glaze it on social media because some brown bitch killed a Juden stand in>barely made it's budget back>No hype for following contentI mean, it was alright, but when the crowd that thinks they are owed everything swarms it...don't expect to get paid for it.
>>153301580>He killed a bunch of Lex’s flying soldiersThere's literally a shot in the middle of that scene that shows them moving when injured to show the audience they're not dead
the 1978 movie saved superman from obscurity by re-mythologizing him as a superior man from a superior culture.superman is silly again. he needs another mythological masterpiece to reassert his cultural presence.
>>153299682Why would you compare the first movie to the first movie? I wonder, my braindead anon!
>>153301580>and his team who he works with killed countless hundreds of the soldiers as well as graphically killing their prime ministerSo that's, other heroes then? Not him? He's already been shown to not be happy with killing, in a scene with his team. None of which were explicitly murderous to the antagonists other than Hawkgirl taking out (not graphically at all lol) a sellout genocidal prime minister, yes. Did you shed a tear for humanity that he didn't go to prison or something instead?>>153301606"Me kill you for being my enemy" you can't dumb this down into nonsense; yes if a force is coming at you with murderous intent and your only option for keeping yourself and many innocents alive is to kill it, you kill it. There's no gray morality here, the bad guys were evil, Supes was good, he acted for good. There was a moral tangle early on with his wisdom in how he dispenses force, and truthfully that needed more exploration, but there can't really be a simple conclusion to it, that's a morality hypothetical. >NarcissistHe's not doing it for jollies and purity, he's acting to save people, and he's succeeding. You can throw around all sorts of What Ifs and What Abouts for Superman, they've been done to death, but here in this movie he's saving the day, because he's a superman.
>>153302101>a superior man from a superior cultureOh hi Zack
There's a very blatant anti-DC shill force on this board, has been for a good while now. Marvel Comics are at an all time low, and all they can do is have interns talk shit online. Pathetic
>>153302006So they didn't die shortly afterward despite being lasered and thrown from a 7 story height, and mauled by Krypto who has 0 self control?Big doubt.
>>153302181They don't have to. Marvel pandered to autists and since nobody talks to them, they're thankful for the rest of their worthless lives and spend them seething about the opposition. They are the kind to ironically support democracy but only if it's like a dictatorship where the thing they like remains always in power, then shit and piss themselves when it doesn't. It's why there was such an smear campaign for MoS. Can't have a competitor for my beloved Marvel slop full of quips and retardation.
>>153302208Whether that's the most realistic outcome or not is one thing, but leaving it as if they die is obviously not the intent. A movie whose main goal is to return Superman to a pre-MoS status, and which makes it a point that the guy doesn't kill is not going to aim for having the villain's lackeys killed by Clark. The mere fact that the scene shifts to show them moving on the ground reinforces the idea.
>>153302181Nigga there's been threads clowning on Marvel for months now here
>>153279508Why the fuck did shounen giants like Dragon Ball get shit tier animation back when Super was airing, yet today shounen manga with mediocre sales will pull movie tier animation out of it's ass when it finally gets adapted?
>>153302181All I hear about marvel these days is Paul shit. I don't hear anything about DC. I don't think this is targeted grunt work, just a slump and usual shitposting.
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>>153302299>threads clowning on Marvel for months now herehow in the fuck hasn't that been a thing for years? that is insane and inexplicable. literally conspiracy tier
The action scenes sucked ass. Thats my only real opinion of the movie.
>>153302154Man of Steel is the sixth Superman movie. >bbbbbbbbbbbbut it’s a rebootNormal people literally do not give a shit. It’s the sixth Superman movie to the general audience. It’s retarded to compare box office receipts for movies released in different years. Cultures change, audiences change, who knows what can happen. Compare the box office of 2019 to the box office of 2020.
>>153279342I never cared, at least.
>>153285060N-no it wasn't!!
>>153305489wow ur so special
>>153279342I really like this here poster
>>153282726>>153298674>>153302154
>>153280005of course its the timeless pleb filter.
>>153279342I liked it and I’m looking forward to Supergirl
>>153299018its a woefully incomplete list, so much so its worthless.
>>153307957Even beyond that list, the reach of those two is clear as day. Keep in mind, they already were succesful film franchises BEFORE the superhero genre became the dominant force in Hollywood.
>>153307975so was superman, big screen and small, that's a strange argument. I believe batman is larger, how spider-man and x-men compare I wouldn't be so quick to just guess.
>>153302155There was a simple conclusion to it: Supersoiboy and the Justice Faggots murdered every enemy soldier in a foreign country and tortured their presidente to death.Then Superman patted himself on the back and acted like he just redefined the mold of morality and kindness by being a government dog just like every MCU superhero already did 1000x.It’s a movie for low iq narcissists who think you’re speshul for doing exactly what everyone else does and hating the people you’re told to hate, and defining empathy as “only for my friends”.
