How do you feel knowing the Walt Disney brand has relied it's entire lifespan on ripping off public domain stories and blatant theft?
Dogfucker was right
Public domain stories seems okay because they are public domain. Actual theft sounds bad.
9000th thread of anons not actually watching Jungle Emperor Leo
>>153293777Great artists steal.
>>153293777All I know is that everyone talks about Antz V Bugs Life and how Antz is meant to be the better film, yet everytime I watch both Antz is clearly the worser flick.
>>153293777The basic plots and designs (lions in this case) don't matter half as much as the execution. And Disney distinguishes itself with its production values.
>>153293876I heard that Antz was rushed out based on a leak to hit the market first, and that a Bug's Life is based on the Magnificent Seven, which itself is an adaptation of a Japanese movie.
>>153293915The basic plots aren't even the same to begin with.
>>153293923That too
>>153293876Two things, 1) Antz and A Bug's Life are about the same quality, and 2) "worser?" "Worse" is already a superlative, no suffix needed
>>153293777That movie was made after Lion King. The original series it was based off of was in a much different world that included humans and other shit not unlike Speed Racer.
>>153294077so?
>>153293922That actually makes a lot of sense>>153294051>Two things, 1) Antz and A Bug's Life are about the same qualityNot really. Bug's Life has a more polished artistic and musical direction compared to Antz while Antz was more ambition on what they can pull off technically which, while very impressive for the time, doesn't really outshine Bug's Life as an overall product.>2) "worser?" "Worse" is already a superlative, no suffix neededWorser is a grammatically acceptable word, it is not just commonly used in the modern English lexicon.
>>153294089It's not a rip off. OP is a fag. If you're OP, you're a fag.
>>153294127it is, you are retarded.
I haven't liked Disney in 14 years and I've come to terms that evil usually prospers so it's not worth devoting any energy on their bullshit beyond a simple "hey that sucks lol"
>>153294111I think if we're just talking visually sure, the design of A Bug's Life is more conventionally appealing (I won't concede on Antz's score though, it's brilliant and bombastic). Writing-wise though I think both films are of a similar quality, they're both just very different stories. Bug's Life is the same "false hero/team vs. time limit" narrative Chicken Run did better a few years later and Antz is just one of several "wacky adventure" plots, just with ants this time.
are you calling this man a coward?
>>153294171Prove it.
>>153293777Disney is highly satanic for this and all the homersexuality. Praying they DIE
>>153293777how do you feel knowing you got btfo by a dogfucker
>>153293788>>153294282Who?
>>153294301yms
>>153293777Why should I care? Japanese artists rip each other off all the time too.
>>153294898Its a rated G movie, Anon.
>>153294259Stfu
>>153294077This. The only similarities the original had were that it used the same animals since both take place in Africa. But OP knows that which is why they made the thread in a disingenuous way.
"Scar himself looks like foreign, weak, and with very female moves." -quote from youtube video that a law professor at Georgetown University actually cited as an academic source for their book
>>153295133https://youtu.be/72AVvgRNf2Q?t=337https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZmkF8xk_Lk&t=287sclassic
>>153294228No you’re wrong I call him a blind whimpering…COWARD!
>>153293777I feel like bombinb Iran was probably the best thing to do, fuck Iran, all it does is fill the internet with shitposts, death to the shitposting countries
>>153293777>ripping off public domain stories Modern copyright laws have murdered the very concept of storytelling.
>>1532938079000th comment of Disney shills defending theft when even the animators at Disney thought it was a remake of that anime
>>153295688Fuck off, retard, you lost
>>153293777It's just a windmill, Don Quixote.
>>153293923Yes the plots are completely different, but several elements are extremely similar to the point there's no way they didn't lift inspiration from it>>153295081>The only similarities the original had were that it used the same animals since both take place in AfricaAnd the dead father's spirit appearing in the sky and speaking to his son. And one of the antagonists being a dark lion with a scar over his right eye named Claw that tries to take over the kingdom. And said antagonist having comedic relief hyena henchmen. Both Leo and Simba choosing to eat plants/insects instead of hunting other animals.
>>153295643true, still people do plagerise stuff like crazy.
>>153295969Shut up
>>153295969No they dont. We invented AI so they dont even have to do the work of plagiarizing anymore.
>>153293777Indifferent.
>>153296178Shut it
>>153293777>ripping off>blatant theft"Lol. Lmao even." - Marcel "The Hammer" Duchamp, 420 AD
>>153296288Dropped my picture
>>153294935>Japanese artists rip each other off all the time too.that doesn't count
>>153293777Yeah, I remember when Simba travels to the human world, learns their ways and travels back to the jungle to bring peace between humans and animals.
>>153296401Kys, disingenous faggot
>>153295028>>153295702>>153295977>>153296287What the hell is all this shut up stuff? Either ignore the posts you don’t like, or try making an actual rebuttal. You can just hide the whole thread if you want it to die from lack of posting.
>>153296464Not my fault that OP is a fag
>>153296480But why are you here?
>>153293789For nearly 100 years the Disney corporation has been lobbying the government to extend copyright protections much longer Han the original law intended. If the copyright laws back at Disney's inception were how they are today they wouldn't have been able to make snow white or Pinocchio
>>153296464There is an actual concerted effort.by major players to vacate 4chan specifically and going around telling every one in every thread to stop talking about whatever they're talking about is their latest devolution on that strategy.
>>153293777The thing the Walt Disney brand has relied on for most of its lifespan is actually the fantasy of a family theme park based on the real theme park based on the fantasy of a dream world generated by the studio artists’ version of european fairy tales at the best time in history to enchant the european imagination, and that story rules. Now it relies on the princesses that come out of the stories to live in the theme park, as well as an evil amalgam of undead IP, which is why you can’t stand them anymore.
>>153296701What angers me the most is that they made the law apply retroactively.
>>153296728Well that’s dumb.
>>153296728>trying to bully people off of 4chanlol. lmao
>>153296701Isn't Snow White a centuries old German folk tale? I could see it applying to Pinocchio, but the former seems hard to enforce.
>>153293777SOMEBODY didn't watch the YMS video
>>153294250>cub lion that chooses not to eat other animals becomes king of the jungle after his father was killed>replace "s" with "k"i prefer lion king but don't kid yourself. You have eyes, you already know this.
>>153295935>And the dead father's spirit appearing in the sky and speaking to his son.That was in a movie released AFTER Lion King.
Retards really need to stop believing hearsay.
>>153297485>>153297918
>>153293777>tripsIt's so over
>>153298914>>153298651
>still defending disney in 2026Nigger they even had some white lion concept art and claimed they didn't even know about kimba at all which was a lie and they never admitted they were lying >but it was not exactly a ''rip-off''This is like saying ''they actually didn't kill six million jews''. Sure, but it doesn't change they did it
>>153293777The last original idea was used up in 1884, well's been dry since then.
>>153297918I forgot the part of Lion King where Simba said that the circle of life is a sham and that all the animals should be vegetarians and tried to force vegetarianism on every animal in his domain. Because that's what Kimba does. By the way, Kimba's name is a result of the American dubbing company being afraid of potential trademark infringement so they just took the Swahili word for Lion and replaced the S with a K. Kimba's name in the original Japanese is just Leo.
>>153293922>>153293876>>153294111What specifically happened was Katzenberg congratulating Lasseter on Toy Story's success, asking what he was gonna do next and taking that back to the Dreamworks people to rush out their version.
I don't know why Japs get more mad about it. mutts learn nothing and they'll keep doing the same thing.
>>153299235Kurosawa's the only one to ever have enough clout overseas to make it stick.
>>153299166you are one comment away from saying "well duh one is white the other is not so not a ripoff" as an argument.
>>153297918> I did not watch Kimba at all, but Lion King DID rip it off...!
>>153299600>drew a clear parallel between both plots>this somehow means i didn't watched itare you retarded?
>>153299540>StrawmanningYou sure showed him
>>153299600to be fair he probably didn't watch Lion King at all either
>>153299673>Lion King entire thing is the Ciricle Of Life.>Kimba wants animals to eat da bugs for a peaceful jungle.Ya, you didn't.
>>153299126All false, fag
>>153299235>>153299266Cope
>Disney took some surface-level influence from KimbaYeah probably, I could see it>Disney LITERALLY ripped off EVERYTHING here's a movie made after Lion King came out as PROOFNo way fag
>>153294301A guy on youtube called Yourmoviesucks. He went into deep detail watching and reading all the Kimba content he could get his hands on and proved that the "Lion King stole from Kimba" stuff was total bullshit. The main examples people pointed to to say that Kimba was being copied, such as OP's pic where the posing is extremely similar, was literally shit that was made years AFTER the Lion King came out, meaning Kimba was the one ripping Lion King off.
>>153298636There’s a ghost dad episode in the 60s anime too.
>>153297918simba didnt choose it was either eat bugs or die
>>153299126You can hate Disney without lying.
>>153293777This again? Pic on the right is from 1997 btw.
>>153293777>public domainSerious question but does anyone else think the public domain is legit dead in current day? Even if something enters the public domain now you can't use it due to trademarks unless what you do with it is a slasher horror movie. Basically there is no public domain anymore.
>>153302401man you fags don't even know about lion king. Simba kept eating bugs afterwards.
>>153299736learn what words mean before using them. I'm mocking him because not being 1:1 doesn't matter, is still a ripoff and doesn't contradict my point.
>>153293777you cannot "own" an idea
>>153302767You are wrong, anyway
>>153302783Modern trademark law and patents disagree with you. Also the Jews.
>>153302804>goalpost successfully moved.
>>153302767You created a strawman of someone bringing up another argument to attack him, you are strawmanning. Sorry, but I make all the rules and you have to obey them.
>>153293777I don't really mind that so much but I am a bit annoyed that after Tezuka was willing to let things slide Disney turned around and screwed Tezuka.
>>153302856lmao retard, die in this hill for all i care.
>>153293777>Meanwhile Tezuka doing a doujin of Disney's Bambi.
>>153302884They didn’t do anything, weebfag
>>153302935That’s you
>>153302884Let what slide?
>>153302935>InESL detected, opinion discarded
>>153300053>meaning Kimba was the one ripping Lion King off.That's a bad take away. The fact is that most of the "knock off" stuff can very easily be chalked up to incidental similarities and the actual core stories are completely different (in no small part because Kimba was an episodic series in the same vein as its contemporary Astro Boy while Lion King is a film).
>>153302401He coulda tried to eat timon and pumba.
>>153303618>t. speed readeranon is saying the images of Kimba (or rather Leo)'s 1997 movie Jungle Emperor Leo are what people often cited for being what Lion King plagiarized. So if anything Kimba is the one plagiarizing The Lion King because that Kimba movie released later than The Lion King.
>>153295935>dark lion with a scar over his right eyeOnly one incarnation of claw had a scar, and it was the 1989 version. Which didn't come to the west until 1998. So it was pretty likely the animators wouldn't have seen him. The others are just missing an eye.
>>153303679Eh, some of the images come straight from the 50’s manga. It’s not that tenuous. American animators knew about Tezuka in the 80s via Astro Boy.
>>153303942Even then, that image is a very different thing from what Lion King does with it.With the only superficial similarities.
>>153293777>feelim not a fagget that feels feelings so i wouldnt know
>>153293777I... don't really care all that much.
>>153293876Ant Bully > Bugs Life > Antz
>>153302958Cuuute!
>>153304942Sure, but the cloud image is a very specific decision. Kimba was on TV in the US by 1985, the idea that some of the best educated animators in the world couldn’t have taken inspiration from it because they didn’t make an exact copy is just absurd on its face.
honestly it was a smart move, you come up with an original style and just rip off something in the public domain anyways he did create some original shit like micky, donald, goofy, etc
>>153294077no the fuck it wasn't. kimba the white lion came out before the lion king>>153295081suck a tailpipe, shill>>153298636keep lying>>153298651shill>>153299790you can literally look up the years kimba the white lion was created and its works thoughout the 20th century, then suddenly lion king is out in the 90s.retard
>>153307031>no the fuck it wasn't. kimba the white lion came out before the lion kingThe screenshot in the OP is literally from Jungle Emperor Leo from 1997.
>>153293789The problem arises in that they then claim ownership of the public domain story and litigate others who also wish to adapt it.
Can you guys stop taking this low effort bait. OP knows.
>>153307026Shut up.
