Who had the more skilled creators, Superman (Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster) or Batman (Bob Kane and Bill Finger)? Who had the better initial comic, Action comics #1 or Detective Comics #27?
First off, the picture on the far right is Robert Kanigher. Wikipedia is wrong.To your question, Joe Shuster was the more competent artist, though neither he nor Bob Kane were anywhere close to Jack Burnley or Fred Ray at DC. While Siegel was no hack as a writer, Bill Finger has the bigger body of respected work.Which was the better initial comic? Depends on your taste. I prefer Detective #27, but since it was plagiarized from a Shadow story, some people might downgrade it.
Action Comics is impressive in how fully formed it is. You get the base aspects even if things like the Kents, Jimmy, etc haven't been added.I love how there's a whole countdown to how long Superman takes to save the wrongfully convicted woman's life. They get the Lois and Clark dynamic down immediately. You get Superman's brand of justice and his personality immediately. Just really impressive overall.
>>153295636Bob Kane was a worthless thief and rat, so by definition Siegel and Shuster are better even with Finger and others carrying.Bob Kane was everything people accuse Stan Lee of being and more.
>>153297648>Bob Kane was a worthless thief and rat, so by definition Siegel and Shuster are better even with Finger and others carrying.ThisGolden age Batman is also just a worse comic than golden age Superman and is a below average comic for DC at the time overall
>>153295877Great post, except we disagree about the best initial comic. I don't think either one holds up today, but that Detective #27 is just awful, plagiarism aside.
>>153298166Batman really does survive off of parasitically leaching off of every single two fisted male aimed pulp and action hero ever created in America.
>>153299818What about Superman? He's Doc Savage and John Carter and Hugo Hercules.
>>153300254Hes litterally a 1:1 ripoff of gladiator. The rest was tacked on later. Some of it stolen from Fawcett captain marvel. Like flight.But Batman is a special case. They are constantly stealing from newer male action heroes and taping it onto the character.
>>153295877>Wikipedia is wrong.This is the picture Wikipedia has for Bill Finger.
>>153300369Wrong and wrong
>>153295636idk
>>153295636They're all Jews, so that answers your first question.
>>153303966It doesn't. Enlighten us.
>>153301741So?
>>153305353Anon believes the creative spark is houses in the foreskin.
>>153306452He's right. Smegma is the extracutaneous manifestation of overproduced creative juices.
>>153301741Finally it's been replaced. They originally had Kanigher's pic and the net just won't let the mistake fade.
>>153305353Jews have greater in-group preferences than Whites so they almost always hire their own, regardless if any of them has any actual artistic merit or not; and they know people, who also happen to be Jews, that can and will give them the push they need and are able and willing to do things for them that most couldn't even imagine. So, to answer the question, both pairs of men are skilled in that they did those things, with relative ease, which many have found very difficult if not almost impossible to accomplish.
>>153295636They're all equally skilled.
>>153308566>>153295877>>153301741>Thread caused a correction on Wikipedia Probably doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things but neat
>>153301746Right and right
>>153312005Left and left
>>153303935Give an educated guess.
>>153295636The one that doesn't involve Bob Kane
>>153311959Really?
>>153312005No
>>153295636Pass, Smash, Smash, Smash
>>153314553superman guys
>>153311959When was it incorrect?
>>153295636Well it IS called DC not AC after all