If conquering the earth and repopulating is so important to the viltrumites what's stopping them from just forcefully breeding the humans?
That seems like action needs to be taken against them if there's a group of people serially raping people.
>>153299539There is no one on Earth capable of stopping Thragg from doing whatever, the only reason why he lost is the plot and him being a dummy
>>153299523>viltrumites what's stopping them from just forcefully breeding the humans?Bad writing, just like the immortal bitching about outliving his loved ones, and not just fucking viltrumite puss, and living with them.
>>153299550Robot would have wiped him sooner or later
>>153299550The humans can't kill the viltrumites for the most part. They can however launch thousands of nukes if the Viltrumites attack and wipe themselves out trying.
>>153299523If they start turning earth into a breeding ground by force then there's nothing stopping Allen from releasing Scourge 2.0 on all of them
>>153299575Maybe he does that after Kate dies
>>153299585I doubt they'd do that>>153299599This on the other hand
>>153299618Canonically he goes mad and Mark kills him.
>>153299523They will get Scourge'd againJustifiably
>>153299687>>153299599Let's be real if Thragg used his brain he'd have eliminated the entire coalition during their first encounter, and fucked tech jacket.
>>153299636I assumed Mark changed the timeline when robot was put in a jar and Immortal could talk directly with him
>>153299523There was never any need to do it forcefully. Just show off your abs and fuck any takers.
>>153299699>and fucked tech jacket.They don't want to fuck Geldarians and they didn't know Zoe's a human
>>153299523they basically get steven universe'd by earth-pussyit's nice to be nice
>>153299523A dramatic population increase like that is just a disaster waiting to happen. The Viltrumite lack the personal to indoctrinate and manage the newly acquired Viltrumites. There are also bound to be some that fall through the cracks, allowed to roam free and be influence by Earth culture.
>>153299745Pretty sure Robot is the reason why The immortal goes mad.
>>153299745>>153299980It was clarified in a letter's column that yeah, Mark did try to change the future by having Robot help Immortal but that actually did the opposite and the future refused to changeI mean...it was nice while it lasted I guess
>>153300007Letter to the fan explain where Markus was? I doubt it what with Kirk's track record with his writing.
>>153299980>>153300007Destiny is a bitch
>>153300042Immortal going mad probably happened after Markus left
>>153299523Why don't they just raid human semen banks and hire surrogates?
>>153299961This is true. Earthling Viltrumites, raised in proximity to other humans, would have a non-Viltrumite cultural basis. Unless Thragg systematically murders all of the children that ask too many questions (which is all of them) he's going to end up with a planet full of people with Viltrumite powers but who don't give a shit about Viltrum because it doesn't mean anything to them. Revolution becomes inevitable.
>>153299585I dunno. Mark can't walk 10 ft without tripping over a random nobody villain that can break his arm or put a big hole in him. The heroes might not be able to resist a viltrumite invasion, but I think that there's honestly a pretty good chance that if the supervillian worked together they could kill at least half of the invading Viltrumites.
>>153299523he don't have enough viltrumites to brute force his way to the whole planet, stealth was the best approach to the mission
>>153300103If your kids can't even punch through a pussy and make it to the egg in the first fight of their life, wtf should they even be considered viltrumites?
>>153299961Correct.Even if they where to turn Earth into a breeding camp, it would still take generations before their socially cohesive population would reach the levels needed to make it into one. This again feeds into the big knife twist: The Vultrum race is basically in its death knell, where their population is at a level where they can't breed without massive inbreeding. And their morals means that despite being able to outbreed, having their children being capped at 90% strength isn't acceptable as a solution.
>>153299585I don't think mankind has that level of resiliency. In fact, I am certain that some women would "volunteer" to be part of the Viltrumite's harem in exchange for safety, as has been the case since the beginning of time.
>>153301045The human Women would be the first to submit/become subservient to the viltrumites. Morals and ethics would be the first thing to go honestly, anyone resisting would die.
>>153301045Piss off /pol/
>>153301045They could just ask and get millions of volunteers, men and women alike. It would probably freak them out how willing humanity would be, after centuries of just dominating people by force.
>>153301221>say something that isnt controversial in any way about human nature>oh my gaaaad its pol again!!! aaaaghhhhh those filthy evil polssssssss
>>153300204If they properly hide Mr. Liu what's stopping the dragon from just attacking them literally infinitely?
>>153299523those kids are gonna have questions about what happened to their mom/dad, and when they find out, they're gonna be pissed
>>153299539Duncan will stop them.
>>153299550>There is no one on Earth capable of stopping AUUGUGUHUGOHIGFL
>>153301242You're right I should have called him an incel instead
>>153301328>He actually thinks the tin can fodder beats thragg
>Nolan fights other Viltrumites in the Purge>Also has to fight his parents later to prove he can fend off against ViltrumitesThis doesn't really make sense? Also the kids were flying but in ep2 they could only run?
>>153301328>yeets tin can into the sun/black holeRobot can't do shit
>>153301385A planetary purge is no excuse for skipping your adult license test.
>>153301385>that light skin black gingerlol
>>153301385This little dude survives too
>>153301328Mark! Use pierce!
>>153301452In hindsight, why did they frame this as a history lesson? All of them watched these events unfold lmao
>>153301246Right? Or mass producing the Mauler's nervous system shutdown gun. Frankly, they should do that anyway. Its a gun that incapacitates anyone it hits for several minutes seemingly with no longterm side effects. Its basically just a perfect, better taser. The ultimate self defense weapon that you can afford to shoot first and ask questions later with because it doesn't kill people just stuns them. Arm fucking ALL of your police with that sucker and you will barely need superheroes again.
>>153301385>>153301452>>153301465Was it mentioned how do pure blooded viltrumites age? Do they quickly grow out of being toddlers and hit a plateau after 18? Or do they age a shit load slower compared to humans and remain toddlers for 50 years or something
>>153301541From what we see they age identically to humans and then their physical aging slows once they hit their 30s.
>>153301541No, even Nolan seemed to have aged 40 years or something by the time the series ended
I find it interesting that these guys show some sorrow over the dead viltrumites
>>153301512>Arm the police with itBlacks would go extinct over night
>>153301610The only other Viltrumite that showcases sorrow over their dead is Thragg. He does seem to be the most compassionate of all current viltrumites. Spared Thaedus (initially) spared Nolan , spared Mark, even willing to forgive Nolan. Also hilarious he accuses Thaedus of genocide when he killed as many of his own people
>>153301644>Same person who refused to interact with humans because he knew it'd turn him softAt least he knows his weaknesses..
>>153299523It’s a bit strange, were they given orders to be covert? I’d imagine not knowing any better, they would just go full rapist
>>153299539people would volunteer to be breeding stock,women would do it so they would receive a 'superior' father for their child.Men would do so because they are men.
>>153301644> Also hilarious he accuses Thaedus of genocide when he killed as many of his own peopleThe show is so fucking stupid.
A lot of this can be explained by >Thragg realizes that even if he kills every last of his enemies, the other Viltrumites might not survive it, and he can't repopulate the entire race alone
>>153299523Before mark grew up and got his powers they did not know that humans make pure viltrumites.Viltrumites mixing with others make the offspring weaker. So before mark this strategy would not have been logical.(Also mass reproduction might cause chaos)
>>153299523The viltrumites are very slow moving. I don't watch the show but in the comics it's pointed out that they can go years between making threats and actually doing something about it. Even when facing extinction they usually aren't in a rush. And that's because of their long life spans.
>>153302388>>153299523My answer is the correct one and I dint even watch the series I just binged fights on youtube.Im the king nerd.
When one hears how long viltrumites live in general one would assume that Nolan would be a couple of thousands years old with being visually in his late 40's to early 50's but nope. It's a shame really because Nolan could have had 2-3 kids with one of the pureblooded viltrumites(preferable with the Albino Beauty) or long before stumbling upon Earth he was already undercover on another alien planet and out of the 2-3 kids from him one of them is from that exact alien race he was scouting on. It also could have been a good character familial/friendship for Marky to have with Nolan's direct children as they can possibly grow close overtime on Marky's galaxy adventures.
>humans are the only race capable of... LE LOVE i thought you said this show was grounded?
>>153299523Mark and Oliver rebelling is risk enough since both of them are proving to be viable threats. Every child outside of their race is a thread to become an enemy.
>>153299699Eliminating the coalition doesn't get rid of the genetic vulnerability of Scourge.Even if Thragg killed Allen or any number of people he has no way of knowing who else knows about the virus to prevent it being introduced to Earth at some point and wiping them out no different than with Viltrum. Only agreeing to a tense truce are both sides able to get the other to stall their final solution.>>153302562Kirkman actually shows other races also have love, the Viltrumites just never had cause to conceal their intentions while investigating their compatibility with them so they never had circumstances that would allow them to change.In fact as contrived as a lot of things are I have to give it to Kirkman that by making the Scourge MAD scenario he justifies why the other Viltrumites have to go through what Nolan did instead of just taking their mates to their ship and carrying on indifferent to civilized conduct the way Thragg did with his bug harem.Also, in factt, we saw a world where what OP suggests sort of occurred. Basically the Viltrumites continue being Viltrumites and while some Earth whores are compliant with Emperor Mark it's still implied that most of the species was not on board and the situation isn't perfect.
>>153302388whats with the shitty drawing, my dude?
>>153302562Kirkman just adapts whatever anime premises he likes into a capeshit variant. Viltrumites being defeated by love is just Macross.
Viltrumites>don't care about their offspring to the point where they kill them, but are somehow upset about the possibility of inbreeding 2-3 generations down the line so they choose to not just have a massive orgy to repopulate their race as fast as possible>can 99.9% any race's hybrid offspring into their race with their Super-DNA that is objectively better than everyone else's but chose not to make an army of hybrids until late in the game>have the best scientists and doctors in the galaxy which is probably like 5 dudes at this point but whatever and theycould have done like the Unopans did and magic up some genetic modulator to increase genetic diversity while shitting out a million babies in artificial wombs>could have just cloned thragg a million times>could have done anything, really, besides the NOTHING they did for 500 years between the Scourge and the beginning of the plotThe entire story just turns and twists itself to make thragg lose when all kirkman had to do was not reinvent the wheel, have a normalish number of viltrumites ("they're repopulating, bit it's slow going so they only have a few thousand guys") for what happened to them and have Mark defeat thragg and then have the deus ex plot that he's Argall's great-grandson or whatever and therefore the emperor.Instead it's just dumb plot twist after dumb plot twist and all the guys involved basically pull tehir punches to make mark look better when they could have killed him dozens of times over.
>>153299585the reason that's dumb is that it makes more sense to live in a viltrumite's harem as their fuckmeat than to nuke your entire species and planet out of existence out of spite.
>>153300173if thragg can't stop them then they were weak plus all his viltrum thraxan kids willingly die for him up to the point where Ursal, apparently the only girl, tells them to stop because thragg just got thrown into the heart of the sun and is fucking dead and there is no point in dying for a leader who doesn't give a fuck about them.
>>153301610The show has reframed the purge from a planetary civil war that lasted 100 years into a deliberate culling of anyone who might disagree with thragg's mindset as a potential traitor, consistent with the show's re-definition of thragg more as a Stalinesque/Hitlerish dictator demanding his people comply to the letter with his ideations no matter how suicidal and no matter how many have to die to achieve them.
>>153301696>>Thragg realizes that even if he kills every last of his enemies, the other Viltrumites might not survive it, and he can't repopulate the entire race aloneBut he literally unironically did that.
>>153304127The show itself touches upon this though that Nolan never trained mark as a viltrumite until he realized he had powers andd by then he was too old to buy into the "conquer the world for your old man" and even then in many dimensions he just goes alonng with it.
>>153299581KEKbot would have been mushed by Thragg.
>>153299523That’s just how delicate the situation was. There were <40 viltrumites maybe half that (even less considering we only see like 5 on screen) after Viltrum was destroyed. By maintaining discretion he takes zero risk. Thragg would never say it out loud but the coalition was a genuine threat. Right after Viltrum blew up Allen was literally on the way with the virus and luckily Mark took the bullet for Thragg. Ideally after a few generations when there’s a few hundred Viltrumites Earth would be naturally assimilated and become the empire’s official new home.
>>153306156The whole premise of viltrumites is retarded
>>153306222Not a fan how the show demystifies the purge and Argall
>>153306475Argall in comics was literally a nothing character that only existed to die and be used as a plot device
The reboot arc...
>>153306701Sometimes the legendary dead leader doesn't need to be anything more than that.
>>153299523>rape woman>woman now takes 9 months to birth baby>if you let her go, she aborts it because it's a rape baby>if you capture her, she'll find a way to kill herself in captivity>if you amputate all limbs, cut out her tongue, and strap her to a bed with nutrients through a drip, you're endangering the baby's growth
>>153299523>Viltrumites launch an all-out rape assault on Earth>Instantly become addicted to Earthcock/Earthussy>One hug or headpat and they instantly become putty in our hands due to years of repressed emotionsGG, you played yourselves.
>>153302507>one would assume that Nolan would be a couple of thousands years old with being visually in his late 40's to early 50's but nopeIf he's not thousands of years old then that is a retcon. He literally says he is >>153283539, no ambiguity about it
>>153306156>make Mark look betterAnd consistently fail because he is a shit person at his core. >>153306470This. They're just a bootleg hybrid of kryptonians and saiyans. The entire story is predicated on the, even at the time, overdone cliche of "What if Superman was evil?". Also it turns out that the fusion of Gohan and Conner (Gohnner?) is a low key terrible person.
They could just....steal a few human women and men. Harvest some spunk a eggsThen toss them into a baby factory. Can have thousands of viltrumites in a 15 years then hundreds of thousands more in 35. Didn't need to do any raping.
>>153306232He doesn't consider his Thraxan children true Viltrumites, just slaves to use for his revenge. He tells Mark that in his mind the Viltrumite race is already dead once they turned on him and that his children are genetic dead ends that will never be true Viltrumites.
>>153306248Its not like that “in many worlds he just goes with it” is that the good Marks tend go die for opposing to Nolan.Evil mark have it easy most of the times since they have so flew threats to deal with, alongside getting tutured by Nolan/the empire .Good Marks generally dies to Nolan/the empire/any strong opponent they cannot face alone yet.So the whole rateo involving the good mark universes is just a huge Bottleneck where flew variants survives (the main one) and all the others dies spectacularly and painfully
>>153299523How the hell did this mediocre comic gets pushed so hard, everything about it seems to just be generic rip off of DC but not in a good way just it'll really bad way. And then all the sudden it's like getting thrust in your face like the boys and it's just this like who the hell is picking these comics and trying to make them into everything. Like The walking Dead that's another one where it's like oh that's pretty good but not that good and then all the sudden it's everywhere and everyone's going older zombies are touching my weiner but that all it says like this gets pushed on us like is there like a king in the sky that says this will be pushed on because I don't remember anyone even talking about this comic until they started making the animations
>>153308499The comic ended nearly 10 years ago, if you are only hearing about it after the show dropped you probably just weren't into comics like that
>>153308535Have you ever actually gone to comic book store even tried to look at a comic nowadays. Everything sucks you get a wall of like six bucks per 12 pages of crap with some overly detailed cover, you have no idea who anyone is why they're doing it the story lines are just mostly garbage, or so long-winded you have to get like 1 billion previous comics to even understand what's going on. The art all looks about the same is that generic clean style that looks like it came out of Chad GPT. You get told all this, is so good and you look at it and the word bubbles are like right in the freaking face of everything and they're huge and how much text is on a damn page they make Stan Lee's work look like he was a monk with a valve only using a few words. You don't need to write a goddamn book to get 12 pages to work right I'm being facetious here but yeah modern comics are very
>>153308560Buying physical comics in 2026 is insane, get with the times grandpa, everything ever written can be read digitally now
>>153308586What digital comics are any good? If I wanted to look at a digital comic I would just go to some Ai and ask it to make me one
>>153308110Alright my bad. I still find it odd though prior before Nolan settles down on Earth he still didn't produce any viltrumite children with anyone at all, though.
>>153308605Fag
>>153300204>I think that there's honestly a pretty good chance that if the supervillian worked together they could kill at least half of the invading Viltrumites.There was that ancient god villain in Guardians of the Globe, called Set, who could knock out everyone but didn't do it because it was against his "rules". He also had a brother who could drain the life force of everyone nearby to power himself up; he even managed to make Brit older (normal humans would get turned into a skeleton en masse).>>153301246The dragon gave Mark a hard time at first, but the last time they met he punched it around easily.Also Mark is alone or at best with Oliver. Viltrumites have 30-40 of them still alive. That's a huge force multiplier, just 4 of them is enough to overpower Thragg.
>>153301541Nolan says he is thousands of years old (in the show he says just nearly one thousand), but every time they show viltrumites they get visibly older as the years go by. So it makes no damn sense whatsoever. Even Mark gets grey hairs by the time Eve is old enough to die naturally.
>>153301328Robot was such a plot armored faggot, the writing bent over backwards to enable him.Kirkman even turned around after the series was over in a letters page and was like>lol robot manages to take over the Earth again because Mark put his brain in control, he's the reason Immortal goes insane, idk isn't that ironic?
>>153301662They were given orders to be covert because they are essentially foreign invaders, and starting a war would have consequences that could backfire on them. Not much point in breeding on earth if the planet becomes a nuclear wasteland. Also they need to hide themselves from the Coalition, although they get to know about it immediately.Maybe the order to go covert was just them trying to be peaceful and show that they are NOT trying to take over the planet or start a new empire, they are only there to survive.
>>153300204>The heroes might not be able to resist a viltrumite invasion> but I think that there's honestly a pretty good chance that if the supervillian worked together That's one of the reasons the Invincible setting is so shit, the writing seems to be actively against the idea of their superheroes having any sort of credability with the only ones allowed to be impressive are scumbags and genocidal monsters.
Real question is why there are really on 50 viltruniggers if the scourge was so long ago Nolan didn't even had a moustache yet, that was what? 900 years ago? We were less than half a billion people at this time, if Vultrimites focused on breeding and increase their numbers they should be at least in the tens of thousands by now. Is there any lore reason to justify that? Do vultrimite women only menstruate 200 years in their life cycle? they do have young ones capable of breeding among their ranks too.The story would be more believable if they had something like 2000 to 5000 viltrumates left. But a lot of them being of a lower stock. it's not like the huge numbers were not a thing at some point.
>>153301221take your meds
>>153309744The version of the culling/scourge in the cartoon just makes no sense, the writers are bad when it comes to both the comic and the cartoon but the cartoon has focused more detail on that time period which was a mistake
>>153305764Bojack Horseman Pickles fanart
>>153308605Not the same.
>>153311187Should've been a man
>>153306222I hate this new era of adaptations, authors rewriting their own work and soiboys praising them for it.
>>153312254then she couldn't be in a kpop girl group
>>153299523On some level, dictators just want to be in control. Otherwise they would just mingle with the population and assume that everything will go groovy after enough generations pass. They don't even need to force anything, because everything they fuck produces self-purifying offspring.
>>153313027Every idea you can think of has been done already
