Why is Emma Frost's potential popularity so much higher than Jean Grey's?
>>153302510>Jean has decades more time in the mainstream spotlight than Emma, but a stiff breeze of relevance causes Emma to surpass Jean Grey with easeIs Jean a flopped character that should be discarded?
Everybody knows who Jean Grey is, 20th century mutie carrie, all everyone knows about emma is the rivals coombait and thus, interest spike. Not gonna last tho
>>153302510She's clearly not, she just had a huge spike because of Marvel Rivals porn
>>153302510Its almost like being overpowered isn't a substitute for being a good and interesting character.Emma may not have mary sue phoenix powers but she's an infinitely better and more interesting character than Jean has ever been and will ever be.
>>153302579>not gonna last thoughI don't think so. If Emma makes it into Marvel Tokon and the MCU then I think its safe to say that she will destroy Jean's relevance permanently.
>>153302510Marvel Rivals porn.
>>153302510>potential popularitySo you're talking about literally nothing. She was a FOTM girl in Rivals, that's all that chart is reflecting, if you contrast with other Rivals FOTMs you'll get similar sudden spikes, and they'll also drop back down afterwards.The Rivals version of Jean wasn't a FOTM waifu as they didn't focus on sexualizing her, and Google searches on her are going to be divided between her real name and searches for "Marvel Phoenix" or "X-Men Phoenix".
>>153302623Jean and Emma are almost even on this chart despite Jean being pushed more than Emma more often, and being a more known character in the public consciousness. Emma Frost still gets way more fan art than Jean does even to this day both in porn and not in porn.It genuinely feels like if Marvel pushed Emma more she would leave Jean Grey in the dust in popularity and relevance.
>>153302510Why is Wolverine’s popularity so much higher than Cyclops?Because she’s the “bad” girl.
>>153302668But Jean is way worse person than Emma.
>>153302597>she's an infinitely better and more interesting character>baby's first soap opera bitch queen is a really complex and interesting character guysJust admit she's what you're horny for rather than trying to pretend there's depth to your opinion.>>153302607>If Emma makes it into Marvel TokonWe already know the starting roster X-Men team, if any others make it in, it'll be as DLC, and we don't even know if the game will be a success yet, how long it lasts will determine how many DLC characters get added.>and the MCUUnless the MCU gets it's mojo back, that's not going to matter as much as you think.>then I think its safe to say that she will destroy Jean's relevance permanently.That theory is based entirely on the idea that they'd just put her in the exact same role Jean would normally have on the X-Men, and that the adaptation in question would be a success. If she was to be in a thing but have a sufficiently distinctive role, there'd be no reason to even be arguing for one to 'replace' the other, but I suspect what you people want is just a Cyclops-shipping thing, as a new movie is even going to revolve around that guy or his love life.
>>153302756>We already know the starting roster X-Men team,She'll be on Doom's team. Hellfire Gala stage was already leaked.
>>153302756>That theory is based entirely on the idea that they'd just put her in the exact same role Jean would normally have on the X-Men,NTA but they did that in the show Wolverine and the X-Men and Emma was more liked than Jean even then.
>>153302607MCU Emma would just recycle the rough Iron Man pattern of starting as a sharp-tongued selfish woman who uses her abilities for personal gain, has a realization moment, and switches to actually try and fix the world.
>>153302819And it would work
>>153302510>Is named Emma Frost>Doesn't have ice powersI don't care about cape shit but when I found this out, I was genuinely surprised
>>153302656It's almost like the comics-reading audience is a tiny percentage of Google users, and the X-Men aren't actually that popular outside of comics nerds, so the numbers for both characters are pretty low most of the time, and only spiking briefly when they're in a movie, then searches for Emma briefly explode because of Rivals porn. The Rivals crowd have already moved on, and other normies still don't care who she is.>It genuinely feels like if Marvel pushed Emma moreI'm not sure the comics could have pushed her more than they have been doing since the early 2000s, she got years as co-leader of "the mutant community" even. It feels less like you're asking for them to "push Emma more" and more like you're asking for them to "replace Jean with Emma", like some zero sum game where your waifu can't just be in things on her own merits, she has to take someone else's spot.
>>153302861Frost is just her family name. It probably is an in-joke considering her personal name Emma is from Emma Peel. DC has a Frost with actual ice powers though.
>>153302876>X-Men aren't actually that popular outside of comics nerds,Are you retarded?
>>153302929Set aside Wolverine and Deadpool and I'm afraid it's the truth, anon. Call me what you like, it isn't going to make normies care about those other characters more.
>>153302968X-Men has always been and still is Marvel's 2nd most popular IP after Spider-Man.The order has always been>Spider-Man>X-Men>Avengersand no the MCU did not change that. X-Men comics still outsell Avengers comics, and most people are still more excited for X-Men stuff than Avengers stuff.
Post-Op Jack Winters.
neither character is all that interesting but Jean is among the most boring of all mutant characters.partly because a lot of stories that might characterize her more cohesively fall into Marvel's incomprehensible "future/alternate/clone self storyline" pile, partly because for a long time she wasn't getting anything new because she was just fucking dead, and partly because her primary appeal is literally just to horny powerscalers.and as far as just appealing to horny powerscalers, Storm is - despite everything - still a more interesting character than Jean.
>>153302510Its always been funny to me has Emma on the surface seems like the slutter one between her and Jean when Jean is by a wide margin the biggest whore in the X-Men.
>>153303111Lmao true.Emma is like "I may dress like a hoe, but Jean actually is one."
>>153303090for me Emma is one of the few interesting X-Men characters along with Cyclops, Wolverine, Magik, Rogue, Jubilee, Mystique, Magneto, Charles, and Nightcrawler. >Jean is boring>Bobby became boring after he was made gay>Beast has always been boring>Storm is low key kind of boring but I still like her
>>153303225Beast works when he's a brilliant goofball
>No one pointing out the obvious reasonAre you people just choosing not to say it or are /co/ fags this fucking clueless?
>>153303323True>>153303330Vagueposting should be punishable by death.
>>153302510Marvel Rivals isn't indicative of actual character interest, most people who play that game aren't comic book consumers, they're gamers and gooners. Maybe it'll help establish her for the movies, though.
>>153303347>VaguepostingI'm clearly talking aboutarvsl Rivals, you autistic retard
>>153302510Better character in every way. Jean shouldn't have ever come back to life.
>>153302597>Its almost like being overpowered isn't a substitute for being a good and interesting character.Did Jean have anything going to her before the whole Phoenix shenanigans?
>>153303330If it isn't sex appeal, personality, exposure, or power set, then I dunno.
>>153303371But Jean was in rivals too and nobody cared.
If the X-Men movies had gone with Astonishing/Decimation/Rightclops era storylines, no one would ever think about Jean.
>>153303424The movies came out too early for that.
>>153302510Its because of Marvel Rivals dipshits.No one reads comics.
>>153303441Jean was in marvel rivals and her popularity didn't spike like Emma's did.
>>153302668Cyclops powers kind of suck
>>153303416Sorry, but she came after the hype for Marvel Rivals died down.Emma Forst came right as most people started moving on.
>>153303524>Emma Forst came right as most people started moving on.Rivals Emma is more popular than Rivals Sue Storm, and Rivals Magik.Marvel Rivals also still mogs Overwatch in player base.
>>153303545Her thighs are the biggest of the blondes, so does it count as power creep?
>>153302510Poooooorn. Lots and lots of porn. So much porn. Jesus fucking Christ, the porn.
>>153303111>when Jean is by a wide margin the biggest whore in the X-Men.Bigger than Wolverine? Show your work, anon.
>>153304334You're anon I'm sorry. 2nd biggest whore.
>>153303025>X-Men has always been and still is Marvel's 2nd most popular IP after Spider-Man.>always>still isOn some level you must know this is cope and self-delusion.>X-Men comics still outsell Avengers comicsSo what? Less than 100K people buy comics, and most of the comics audience are oldfags who've been reading since the 80s or 90s. Which comic is selling slightly less terribly than another comic is hardly a measure of what's popular with normal people out in the real world.>and most people are still more excited for X-Men stuff than Avengers stuff.Have you actually ever talked to people who aren't diehard X-Men fans in the last 16 years? The "X-Men is just inherently popular and always will be" argument has been obviously untrue for a long time.
>>153302819thats a nice, solid, arc thoughits used so often because its timeless
>>153304391>body count is 3 at most>2nd biggest whoreSurely you can articulate actual reasons why you dislike her instead of just making things up?
>>153302800That shade of lipstick looks damn good on her
>>153302510Lol I dunno
>>153302510Marvel Rivals. No one reads comics so these characters need to be in something else for people to notice them.
>>153306070Why do you retards keep saying this like jean isn't in rivals too and flopped? she literally came out the season after Emma did, and ironically enough the prevailing sentiment is that she's and overpowered DPS but boring both as character and in how she plays. Her debut trailer got moggged by a literal who named Angela kek
>>153306070Why doesn't anyone read comics? :(
