Well, /co/?
"i've harped on tadc's voice direction since it debuted and it's never gotten better in that respect - most of the characters speak in this naturalistic mumblecore style, with awful line pacing and way too much stammering and um-uhh'ing at the start of their lines. it's probably meant to be a contrast to the visuals (and the AM equivalent running the place has a more bombastic, "cartoony" delivery) but more often than not it just sounds amateur "
>>153304230He should try not injecting his fetishes into his works.
>>153304230A Judge dredd cartoon
>>153304230Next time, come up with the premise before you make the character designs. I'm sick of hodgepodge undertale/adventure time shit. Presentation goes a long way. For writing, idk, stop insisting on yourself, I lnow it's a meme phrase but you really do. >Look how silly this character is! Blblbblb!>Look how dramatic this tantrum is! I AM GOD!Don't just spell what you want the audience to think you idiot, that's not dramady!(slaps phone out of hand)
Less therapy monologues
Fire Marissa Lenti for enabling Jelloapocalypse
>>153304265all good art comes from the loins
>>153304594Jello isn't in TADC. He could have been, though. I heard he auditioned for Kinger.
>>153304624No, coomer, you need both hands.
>>153304516This, one is fine when you earn it but holy fuck it gets gratuitous.
>>153304230When writing emotional dialogue, make it less formulaic and reconciliation-focused. As in, don't use therapy speak. Most people can't convey their own emotions or understand those of others in any clean-cut manner, it's always far messier and inscrutable than we want it to be. Emotions should be immediate and visceral, not formatted through easily-digested cliches about "trauma".
>>153304230lets be real goose is never getting to direct another show once TADC ends and will forever be known as the guy who made the clown show. it was literally peak and its all nadir from here
>>153304775Cont.I think a good example of this is the whole Ragatha-Kinger scene in episode 6. I'll be honest, it is a sweet moment, but Kinger's dialogue definitely feels therapy speak-adjacent. It's not entirely OOC because he's established as much older than the other characters and thus wiser in ways, but it feels like he too easily leans on therapy-esque psychological structures rather than anything real. The great irony about writing emotional dialogue is that it feels more real when it's simplistic and dumbed-down (in a way), because humans in precarious emotional states don't have the capacity to make it sound all poetic and nice.
>>153304230My one legitimate criticism is dialogue, I don't know if this is his fault or the direction but a lot of it felt weird for most characters outside of Caine.His strong point is subtle animation and cinematography though so it isn't as bad of a problem as it could be, just more natural deliveries for the slow moments or in general more slow moments with the characters would have worked better.
>>153304230When it comes to emotions, showing is better than telling.
>>153304230If you wanna do a character driven show, do a character driven show from the start instead of pretending to be a "puzzle show" with hints and mysteries in the background and then not building up on that.
>>153304843The dialogue has a lot of really awkward pauses and things to it that just feels like the script was AI generated from a "How do quirky millennials talk" prompt on Chat.
Don't try to make me feel sad about a character explicitly stated to be non-sentient "dying"
>>153304230Eh I wonder why she's asking this question now and not at the end of episode 9. People can give valid criticism at this point but it'll still be incomplete because we don't have the full picture yet.
>>153304230Honestly this is just a personal gripe. But I feel a lot of characters in TADC sort of just exist to die and/or cause trauma to our characters. Kaufmo, a character we don’t know abstracts offscreen so they could have a funeral. Queenie, a character who gets like 5 throwaway lines, abstracts offscreen so Kinger can be traumatized. There’s also Caine’s brother who gets vored with no dialogue. Then there’s Ribbit, but apparently the movie is going to give them a flashback. My point is, it just feels like cheap emotional manipulation when you kill off non-characters so much.
>>153304265She should inject more fetishes into her work
>>153304934>Don't try to make me feel sad about a character explicitly stated to be non-sentient "dying"Is it said by caine or did gooseworx say gummigoo is non sentient? In the former case, caine isnt that trustworthy. Even if he's not lying he's not always reliable.
Every character being a headcase is obnoxious.
is this a /here/ thread
>>153304827>It's not entirely OOC because he's established as much older than the other characters and thus wiser in waysIt's because he's older than he wouldn't go in for millenial therapyslop.
>>153304230you just need three to six weeks of writing in an airbnb without internet using films and books for reference, then pitching whatever you come up with to someone who knows their stuff.
>>153304230More Pomni sex
>>153304230Don't Be Afraid Of "Filler."
>>153304230Look up this concept called “worldbuilding”
make things happen in episodes besides just trauma dumpsalso more fetishes next time
Get the fuck off social media.And not because "da fandom eez towxic" I mean because you're annoying and unfunny.
Get off of social media so you can make your autistic passion projects without worrying about retards on twitter or reddit having a melty.
>>153304843The conversation between Ragatha and Gangle in ep4 hits me as extremely disjointed to the point that I feel like the two actors were reading different scripts and Goose patchworked the dialogue together afterwards.
>>153304659who the fuck draws with both handsare you a toddlervicegripping a crayon like it owes you money
>>153304230whenever Pomni's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Pomni?"
>>153307534Wasn't that when Ragatha was high? I understand your point, but I'd argue that a conversation between someone who's high and someones who's sober should feel disjointed.
>>153304230Don't pause the plot for half the series so Glitch can make make marketable outfits for Pomni and Jax (honestly just tell Glitch to piss off when they interfere with the plot). Suddenly speedrunning the main plot after 3-4 episodes of therapy sessions and adventures feels jarring as fuck.
>>153304516nah, i like em, i like the melodrama
>>153308241whenever Kinger not on screen, Caine should be asking "Where's Kinger?"
>>153304230You can't write natural dialog and also deep lore, hint-laden dialog at the same time. Characters are not going to casually drop their decades old trauma in the middle of conversation every time they talk and they're not going to look for every chance they can get to trauma-dump on each other. If a problem can be solved by characters simply having a 30 second conversation with each other, you need to have a really good reason why they aren't, even if it's just establishing that they tried and it didn't work.Likewise, there needs to be a good reason why a character who saw or learned something important that the other characters would want to know about wouldn't just run and tell them immediately. Pomni should have mentioned the fake exit to the office map. She should have said it looked like the place where she found the headset. They all should have talked about where they were from and WHEN they entered the circus at some point earlier. There should have been a conversation much earlier about how it's been decades since they entered the circus. Yes, it's cute to have the audience piece together the clues, but it's infuriating to have the characters never do that, because you wanted to spend 1/3rd of the episodes on relationship drama with a character whose entire gimmick is "I don't talk about my problems ever."Likewise, you cannot have the characters directly state the plot in the penultimate episode. It should be obvious what the point is by the and the characters should explicitly know, in this case, that the real point of the show wasn't escaping digital purgatory, but understanding that they only have each other and they should be supporting one another and being kind. If it turns out that the real point was "WE HAVE TO DISCOVER THE SECRET OF THE CIRCUS" or some shit, after spending so much time diverting the plot away from that to talk about how people caring about other people is the point, you've fundamentally fucked up as a writer.
>>153306900This.
>>153306900Filler works better in shows that can have multiple 20-50 episodes seasons. If you've got 9 episodes and 7 of them are just characters fucking around and killing them until the plot shows up at the last minute, you have committed the sin of Netflix Writing.
>>153305219>she
Uhh I want to say less melodrama, therapy sessions, characters telling each other how much they mean to each other, ect ect but people legit like that stuff I guess so I don't know if that counts as real criticism The only one I can say is that there's a bunch of oneyplays references (he did art for the channel before) but like the humor doesn't jell well with melodrama, it's supposed to be mean and unhinged
"Worx" is a Polish slang term for deepthroating. Gooseworx literally means "deepthroat a goose."
For what it's worth I do genuinely appreciate Goose seeking out constructive criticism. Too many creators get high sniffing their own farts and get mad when people point out the flaws in their shows, so having one that actually wants to improve is refreshing.
>>153304230He's great with visual style but he needs to improve on his writing. Pomni, Jax, and Kinger are the only ones that feel like they're more than one-note characters (pilot Pomni was terribly written though) and Caine's heel-turn came out of nowhere, it was just way too on the nose for him to turn into straight up AM only right at the penultimate episode, that shit needed to be layered throughout to have any real effect.
>>153305219>Guys I replied to someone by saying the opposite of what they typed. LAUGH!
>>153304230I swear to God there has to be a little midget somewhere that has to go around slapping these people, they get married to an idea and they will not let it go. Gas light district sucks it's literally hella boss except worse. No redeeming qualities just terrible animation and story. But when you're so focused on design and backgrounds you forget everything else and get this idea that oh it's good no it's not. You lucked out with the digital circus you're not going to get another hit like that because you're too busy sucking the dick of your imaginary waifu self-inserted transgender zombie
>>153310258It is nice to see but you can totally be too open, especially with that whole redditor thing (goose can have main characters, that's insane to say that every character needs to be given equal attention)Audiences aren't a monolith and literally can't tell you what they want beyond just surface level plot cohesion and more likable characters
>>153304934>>153305231I think Gummigoo and by extension all the AI in the Candy Kingdom adventure were directly referred to as "sentient AI". I think saying otherwise is refusing to engage with the story
>>153310281Goose isn't the creator of Gaslight, dude
>>153304265Nah fuck you, vore is awesome.
>>153304230No more psychological shit make comedy slop
>>153304230Actually create an engaging plot ahead of time, and really think about how to implement it effectively over the length of time you think the show will run. Have characters learn and grow from experiences, NOT just from having little therapy sessions after the experiences.
>>153310372One of the dipshit gooners on this board refusing to engage with the story? What next? "4chan has a nazi problem?"
>>153304230More vore.
>>153310530You've had enough already, mister.
>>153310372Had to double check, but Caine just says he's testing a new AI that is "57 times more immersive" but otherwise you are correct that Gumigoo directly displays sentience and sapience.
>>153310324True, but finding consistent themes within feedback is important too. If a majority of people are suggesting planning out a plot ahead of time, for example, then that could be considered a genuine improvement point.
