previously: >>153296434
again, thanks Enma and Deviant anons for posting yesterday. Yokai is always a fun time.
Ninja
>>153311342w-where!?
>Toto-san: The "Sakana Shogun"https://youtu.be/nKzn9ZSmASc
>>153311331Back to our regularly-scheduled meddling
>>153311418Welp, time to get some notes ready.
I forget what the latest issue is, last I saw was the miraculous Buddhist crypto-Christian statue
fugu!
>>153311418>A merchant calling himself ShogunHow is my man still alive? People got executed for putting the Shogun's face on Carts.
>>153311447>Vibe checked by a fish
>>153311560that's the power of fugu
>>153311470If the shogun ever appears he needs a massive ENTER moment
>>153311470We are the JITTE
>>153311613Now that I think about it, I don’t think the shogun’s ever been addressed by name. It’s only been by title
>>153311662That cleaver looks surprisingly modern
>>153311536I think that's the latest from Stan.
>>153311567>>153311578Some fun facts about fugu:>Fugu venom contains tetrodotoxin, which can be also found in various varieties of puffer- and blowfish, cone snails, and the ever-infamous blue-ringed octopus. It is a neurotoxin that causes total muscle paralysis, with the most common cause of death being unable to breath due to your lungs being too paralyzed to function. The toxin's effects hit within half an hour, and while there's no antidote even now, you can survive it provided you haul ass and get put on life support immediately until the toxin can run its course.
>>153311526>Lowest middle panelmfw fox wife
>>153311529>When you nut and she keeps sucOk we need a new bit. Yes it works but come on.
>>153311691>>153311700It's kind of goofy but unnerving how bug-eyed they get, maybe earlier Stan wouldn't have done it like this
>>153311560How mighty was the shogun? Did he have anyone that kept him in check? Sorry I'm new to UY and Japanese history in general.
>>153311692So Oga and the kid died an absolutely horrific 3 minute death to tasty fish, but could've theoretically survived if Mouth to Mouth Was A Thing at the time. Tragical.
>>153311765Oh no...
>>153311391>Usagi>Just asking for direction while casually walking around town with a little girl>little girlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGDH3meSPyk
>>153311748it's something I noticed too, the goofy expressions became more common with time.
>>153311750>Did he have anyone that kept him in check? the tokugawa shogunate? not really. I mean, of course they couldn't rock the boat so much as to have every great lord turn on them, but they could rock the boat much more than any previous shogunate ever did. as to censorship specifically, it fluctuated with each shogun personally and their advisors, but it was a real thing.
>>153311613What kind of Funny Animal would Hidetada be?
>>153311750Early shoguns (late 12th century to early 15th century) were in charge of military matters and of little else.Tokugawa shoguns (early 17th century to mid-19th century) were in charge of most things, the emperor still handled some administrative duties and religious ceremonies, but the shogun kept everyone else under his thumb.Not in a way where he could boss people out all the time, but everyone was kept malnourished and poor so they couldn't rock the shogunates boat and shogunate wanted to maintain an eternal status quo.
>>153311310This issue was the first I ever read in an UY storytime, the pufferfish story.
>>153311783BEST GIRL and her daughter
>>153311674Yeah, we only know it's Hidetada because inference because they mention the circumstances of his ascension to the position at the beginning of Grasscutter. Also the fact that he's the second ever Funny Animal Shogun.
>>153311680Well it's a clear case of negligent homicide but the good news is Ishida's pretty lenient a->>153311691>>153311700GOD DAMN IT!
>>153311856Dog since there was eventually a dog shogun
>>153311396usagi looks very frank-like in that third panel
>>153312023Usagi's really getting sick of her shit
>>153312065speaking of, I wonder if his animal edicts would help koro's descendants to be freed from their obligation to the freaks in geishu clan.
>>153311856Based on the netflix show, he was a fat tiger.
>>153312015>Bottom-right panelThat's the look. If I didn't know about everything we know about Kitsune, I would've fallen for that face hook, line, and sinker.
>>153312050POCKET SAND!!
>>153311521daida got epstein'dd
Don't think this has been posted yet this year and it's a good thread to put it in. >In the criminal justice system, the Shogun's interest is represented by two separate yet equally important groups. The kansatsu who investigate criminals and the meddling samurai who kill them. These are their stories.>https://files.catbox.moe/5943zm.mp3
>FLOO!: 31>>153277750unlike Auditanon, I'm not counting death screams, I'm counting FLOO- and that boat did a fine FLOO as far as I'm concerned. that also applies to >>153297020 FLOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo-
>>153311691I will now pleasure myself with this fish!
>>153312050>>153312147https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTSBsmvF1-g
>>153311865>and then Inspector Ishida had worst girl summarily executed to put an end to all the evil in feudal Japan>bullshitdo moments ceased, there were no more famines, Hikiji and his equally evil twin Hijiki both died of strokes, and Usagi shacked-up with best girl>The End
>>153312101Fucking hell Kiyoko don't steal Ishida's purse. >>153312120Fuck's sake. OR HIS JITTE!
>>153312120>did NOT respect the JitteWhen will the crimes end?
>>153312143>RANDOM BULLSHIT GO!
>>153312198can't tell if that link is dead or if catbox is shitting itself, even a newly made one gives a 404: https://files.catbox.moe/5943zm.mp3
>>153312405They will end when Gen corrects Kitsune in bed, giving them a beautiful daughter and adopts Kiyoko as his daughter.
>>153312195>A netsukeDrives people insane or zombies?
>>153312158>usagi is a bunny who can't hopgenuinely pathetic
>>153311979Joining Kitsune for a long night in her cell. Stan. Stop torturing me.
>>153312252This is so illegal chzufag's about to accuse Kitsune of being involved.
if anyone who knows japanese Buddhism could tell me what these statues are exactly...
>>153312336>Sasuke still had to quell demons though because fuck you says Lord Shoki
>>153312180>>153312261little fucker is plotting something>>153312289there he is
>>153311343So, it beguins.
>>153312074You know what to do.
>>153312329Concussed and half awake, Usagi still downs a guy in one swing, goddamn.
>>153312271Does Boss Hokose counts as a fat crime boss? granted, he looks more Danny DeVito shaped rather than Kingpin shaped
>>153312347It's like a Beat 'em Up.
>>153311373You know, a lot of issues in tgis comics would be solved quickly if people actually stole the purse od the people they killed. Think about it friends and foes have been tipped off of some funny business being afoot by seeing the corpse not being looted.
>>153312608nta but I'm on it!
>>153312387>>153312393>>153312402this was the plot of a superman comic.
this story was actually bundled with the oher saga book but I moved it to here instead.
>>153312120robber child Kiyoko grows up to become the elite policewoman of FEUDAL JAPAN because of the jitte's inspirationkino
>>153311455>Usagi! I see that you've murdered two or three people. Is there an explanation this time?
>>153312642Robbing dead bodies is brainbreakingly taboo, even Kitsune a resolute Hinin wasn't up for it. Course, homicide is presumably taboo too, and we see how much that stops people.
>>153311470I lobñve the first panel.
>>153312759He drew all that AFTER he got sliced btw.
>>153312754>Meddling>Oh, I see. Carry on then, Usagi.
>>153311485Assuming he managed them to kill them all, how do they explain to the autorities the pile of dead cops in front of his house?
>>153312336....Identify best girl.
>>153312582Wait, does this make him a possum?
>>153311521Who do you think was in the Daida files?
>>153312714>my son understands how perspective works?kill himnever change feudal japan
>>153312336Anon...Kitsune is best girl.
>>153311886You could have ended it, Ishida
>>153311485>>153311493>Jitte status: DENIGRATED>>153311602>>153311606Notice how Usagi still doesn't eat any of the fugu, even after both of the others have eaten it. Abundance of samurai caution?>>153311765And now, for everyone who thought Kitsune was bad last time we saw her...
>>153311886>haha lmao she should be crucified for her crimes but since we're bros I'll let her off the hook, never mind that I want to capture Nezumi who is a much nicer thief more than anything and I clearly know what the consequences to him would beRRRRGGGGHHHH
the end. see you tomorrow!
>>153312387>>153312393What does the master even want him to have done? Stopped Daida's bannerman from having a fit of conscience? Teleported behind Usagi with a katana before he could kill Muro?
>>153312905See you tomorrow Murder>>153312074>>153312608Here it is, new Frank for you Usagi FRANKS!
>>153312172Because of him? He told you not to jump, it's your own damn fault.
Book 33509 Usagis (14834 total)899 Panels (30572 total)No Neko Ninja (1191 total)No Komori (203 total)No Mogura (37 total)No Ninjas of the Dark Light (4 total)>>153312658I've been wondering who tf this was on that page of Dark Horse UY emojis, glad he finally appeared
>>153311951>>153312187Here's the Tokugawa mon again, second and third times we see it respectively, proving that the Shogun is in fact Hidetada and not some made up funny-animal dogun.
>>153312054This is it. The last moment Kitsune acted like a true friend and was helpful to anyone other than herself or Kiyoko. Combined with unusual levels of charm she is showing in those issues, it saves this story.But again, this is the last time she's not a completely horrible person.
>>153312517>Chief inspector >yells as subordinates>>15331252>Bigshot mob boss>Yells at his subordinatesThere are two bosses in this town who aren't raging assholes and one of them runs a damn fish and chips.
>>153312624Murder's call obviously, but to me he just looks small. (And less of that too later, actually, but in that page he does look stumpy)
>>153312424Shoot, honestly it could be either. I've had that link for 5 years now.
>>153312628Nishi relatively easily outdoes Usagi here. Where's he placed on the power ranking?
>>153312393Damn, Hokose looking a little thicc in that last panel
>>153311447>>153311586As Usagi proved in a much earlier story, fish can indeed be a deadly weapon.
>>153311691>>153311700Sepuku by fish.
>>153312852>for everyone who thought Kitsune was bad last time we saw her...Well, she saved Usagi in this one so that puts her above every other story she appears in.
>>153311748Early Stan was more about wrinkle faces.
>>153311859One the one hand this is a nice moment of her not being a complete psycho and having the girl in mind, on the other this feels out of character considering the previous issues. Also they constantly rob fortune out of people, were does all the money go?
>>153312336Sasuke got a nice day and a half long vacation and a vacum to suck ghosts.
>>153311871Usagi...don't!
Time for the last part of mr. Sakai's wild comic book ride!I mean, I could re-post Stan's Deadpool, Peanuts, Fish Police and even the entire book with Nilson's adventures, but it has been dobre before. This one, however, should be fresh. At least, as fresh as something from 1991 can be.
>>153311897Is noce to see they have protocols in case of being caught.
>>153313232As you can see and read, this is not really Sakai's story. But he did draw a pretty important part of it, so it counts.
>>153313002>this is the last time she's not a completely horrible person.It's her way of signaling to Gen that she needs CORRECTION
>>153313243
>>153313256See, Sakai is a CARTOONIST, he draws cartoons! The fact that he creates the most badass one of them all does not change a thing.
>>153313279
>>153312064I mean lets be real here. That was a Shogunate Official. No one was just gonna skate over THAT particular body.
>>153311904Corpse removers have to be a myth right? Are you telling me this society couldn't move a body unless some serf was near by to do it for them? >Sorry Mr. We can't find an impure guy right now that dead grandpa will have to rot in your living room until tomorrow.
>>153313293Yeah, ok, this page got me.If you can't tell, Flare is unapologetically naughty and while not even close to porn, it often showed a bit more than your average comic.
>>153313328Hey look, it's Spot!
>>153312165
>>153313344>>153313319It's storytime #33 and you still question Feudal Japan?
>>153313373
>>153313279are his parents even feeding him!?
>>153313082Sepfugu
>>153313328what the fuck
>>153311700
>>153313388And that's all she wrote!Once again big thanks for everyone partaking in this journey, especially to Murder who still somehow tolerates me, even though I keep spilling all his dirty, naughty, kinky secrets. See you around!
>>153313388Alright.
>>153311418>polkayes, Shogunate agents? this fishmonger has had unlicensed contact with foreigners! crucify him immediately!
>>153313319Nope, Eta (literally means "filthy ones, abundance of filth or defiled ones"), were the only folks allowed to touch corpses in Feudal Japan.That's what life in a feudal class society with castes is like.
So Nii is Nezumi?
>>153311560>How is my man still alive? People got executed for putting the Shogun's face on Carts.his fish is just that good
>>153313190>were does all the money go?To the status quo
>>153312628Huh, he out fought Usagi. I wonder if we should chalk this up to his bad arm again.
>>153312991How many people have we seen Usagi kill by this point? It's gotta be 1000 by now
>>153312120That's too dangerous to fence
>>153313447I don't really get the moral here. maybe stick boy should've gone for the plain axe instead of the golden one? it's I who thank YOU, my dude. you dug up some very interesting stuff! my favorite must have been the muramasa story from Shi. >even though I keep spilling all his dirty, naughty, kinky secrets.there are no secrets s-shut up
>>153312753This is a frustrating story. It's a interesting premises with a pretty lame pay off.
>>153311951What would the contemporary medicines of Europe be at this point? Did they hit poppy extracts yet?
>>153312695>>153312702Kino paneling showing how fast Usagi is, I wonder how many times Stan's done that
>>153312172Fuck you Usagi, you would let him go if he was Kitsune.
>>153313447The Moral is that the bitch won't change herself, falling back to her comfort zone out of fear of change and right back to the jaws of the abusive relationship she had sought help to escape from.
>>153312180I recognize tha hood.
>>153312738This is like the calligraphy during an arrow barrage in Jet Li's Hero
>>153313661DAMN YOU!
>>153313591>Did they hit poppy extracts yet?Yes. It's very likely the box contained Opium. Or Mr. Marcel's Soul.
>>153312359The balls of this little gremling.
>>153312148It's funny to see Usagi so lenient with one known thief but when he sees another one he's ready to fucking take his ass down so his hands can get cut off. Makes him look like a real douchebag.
>>153312816The he would be fine being upside down.
>>153312753>>153312759this might be one of the worst endings yet, an incredibly lame pay-off. The whole thing couldve been avoidable. Its not even bullshido or bad luck, Yoshi is just incredibly retarded.
>>153313528Almost.
>>153313279>his brother Gayonani the fuck?
>>153313735I think Stan misspelled the title.
>>1533117832nd worst girl and cheeky brat
>>153311854lol how is this the line she draws
>>153312336>Hikiji and his equally evil twin HijikiA real Tomax and Xamot duo for Feudal Japan.
>>153312792Obake Gundam!
>>153312298>Snitch nearly kills Usagi a while back with a bow and arrow>Now leads him into a trap and one taps him Truly he is at the peak of power levels here. Especially now that Inazuma is out of the picture.
>>153312393>Stopping [Ishida] is YOUR responsibility!This is why nobody will ever convince me that the Master isn't Chief Inspector Ito.>>153312424I also think Usagi accidentally hits the nail on the head here.
>>153312393Clearly Hikiji is the Master as he's the evil mastermind behind everything. He's the Napoleon of Feudal Japanese crime.
>>153313870Amuro! We must free the people whose souls are weighed down by gravity!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHdz19aB2W0
>>153313565I'm just happy to somewhat deepen our understanding of the artist whose works are the reason for our amazing yearly tradition. Now, we only need those scans/pictures of the backup story from UY #23 and I'll be content.
>>153312832Chief Ito, the Master, Hijiki & Hikiji, Lord Hebi, Chizu
>>153313960And if you're wondering, this is the back page.
>>153312729>panel 2>Usagi looks at the fourth wallkek
>>153311979>”Honest thieves like me shouldn’t be locked up in such a place!”You’re right, you deserve much worse
>>153313996Agreed!
>>153312132Ditto. Worst girl personality-wise, but top 3 in the cute department
>>153312015>>153312132For me, it's the waitress
>>153311560Hey, he didn't claim he called himself the Sakana Shogun, he merely said "THEY call me the Sakana Shogun". Plausible deniability.
>>153312759>I will deliver your art portfolio to EdoThis never pays off, right?
>>153311606https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVrTepl2hvs
>>153312143having a deck or two of those cards myself, they're tiny. These guys are weaksauce
>>153312769Is that an apple? Did Japan have apples? I know they originate in Kazakhstan so it wouldnt be unreasonable that theyd reach Japan through the Silk Road but even oranges only arrived in Europe after the Islamic empires despite the trade routes that it took already existing for thousands of years before that
>>153312905>Stan hasn't seen ColumboWhat in the...?
>>153314163I think it's supposed to be a peach.No clue if those grew in Feudal Japan either though.
>>153312120A latter comic would reveal they immediately returned the jitte but this level of flagrant disrespect against the one officer who wouldn't execute them on the spot is a low.
>>153313243>superheroine costume is a strapless bathing suit with a flare over the wombThis is more sexualized than the average for the 90s, even.
>>153312875it is a bit frustrating to see these stories so close together
>>153313661>>153313667There was an edit of this that either I or some other anon had made where he is smiling at her feet but I can't seem to find it.
>>153313477perhaps...
>>153314314I remember that one, don't have it saved on my computer but I'm sure it's somewhere in Enma's hoard of meme pics and lewds on mega.
>>153312762Kitsune's not hinin, her father was apparently a priest
>>153313591Circa 1600? They were actual shit. Leeches and herbal garbage about two steps up from Chinese traditional medicine. Europe had just barely gotten its ass out of Galenic medicine and figured out the circulatory system (Harvey's De Motu Cordis would be published over 20 years after this story is set).
>>153314427Nope, she's a street performer, that drops her to Hinin class.Also her father was a, may buddha forgive me for uttering this word, a merchant *spits loudly*.
>>153313694>so his hands can get cut offIto is perfectly clear that he's going to have Nezumi crucified if they catch him. So yes, it's an absolutely preposterous double standard, especially since Nezumi helps the common people. This and Thief and the Kunoichi are where Kitsune's plot armor becomes absolutely intolerable, and that's why anons unlock the mysteries of seetheboxing whenever we reach this part. And remember, this shit was going on for *years* when it was originally being published. Half the stories in your favorite comic (new issue every other month! One trade a year!) were toothgrinding.
>>153314139He says he calls his store by the same name. >>153311418
>>153313190I believe there is a story where we see her dealing with a fence that shows she is only able to get a small fraction of the value of the stuff she steals.
>>153313591Ambroise Paré pretty much invented surgery in mid 1500s, then caused a major scandal in medicinal circles of europe by publishing a book about medicine, in French.This was considered scandalous because up until that point medicine had been taught in latin across (civilized) parts of europe. Only folk language medical help came in form of folk remedies or from barber surgeons (blood letters).So Paré publishing a book about how to heal arquebus wounds in French was unprecedented at the time.
>>153297083Realised forgot Sasuke's daughter for the dead children count.>Dead Children: 13+(villages)
>>153314471Correct. There was no credible way for her not to become hinin, in fact, since the other alternative was being sold to a brothel; as you may imagine, prostitutes are all subhuman according to Feudal Japan!.
>>153311405>>153311396These are some good scared children faces
>>153312762Funny thing is Gen robs a corpse in his third appearence completely nonchalantly.
>>153311418Toto looks like monkey Alfred E. Neuman
>>153311998>justice must apply to everyone or it's meaningless>unless it's a friend of a friend then I'll bend the rulesthis is why people hate Kitsune stories
>>153314671Watsonian I'd chalk up that to his upbringing, same with Usagi with a side of ,"I've been on a battlefield, I'm already pretty tainted at any rate." Doylist, Stan probably didn't know about it until well into the series.
>>153314703>>153314498Would Kitsune work better if she was more a robin hood figure like Nezumi instead of being a shamelessly greedy kleptomaniac who gets away with everything?
>>153314629Prostitutes were also Hinin.So yeah, Kitsune's options were to become a Hinin, Hinin or a Hinin.>>153314616Forgot to add, Ambroise also started the practice of stitching wounds, as well as using antibiotic salves to treat the wounds. Sure he didn't know germ theory, but he knew that if he treated a wound a certain way, it wouldn't get aggravated, infected and gangrenous.
>>153311521Surprised Usagi didn't just shout right there that "IT WAS HIIKIJI! based on nothing at all
>>153313591To answer the question a different way, I think you have to accept the box of medicines as a chambara convention; Usagi lives in a kind of amalagamated-Olde-Japan setting. The hanafuda cards Nezumi throws are an anachronism (western cards would not be outlawed for another forty years or so; at the time Usagi is set Japanese people played cards with Luso-Italian decks); Lady Maple the oiran is an anachronism (a tayu of her era would not wear a costume as elaborate as the one shown and the word oiran was not yet in use circa 1605; I think that guy linked to in a previous thread covers this in one of his Youtibe videos about Japanese prostitutes); the ninja are straight up nonsense, and so on. It all harks back to a kind of legendary past; it's sort of like how Arthurian Britain apparently has 15th century plate armor in the 6th century AD.
Does anyone have a link to the collection of anons' edits? I need to find one.
>>153314784>Usagi didn't just shout right there that "IT WAS HIIKIJI! based on nothing at allUsagi is always the one being told it's Hikiji though.
>>153314754>Prostitutes were also Hinin.That's exactly what I was saying, Anon.
>>153314750She would work better if she were like the Snitch, who's cranked up to maximum irritation factor for the Mouse Trap story: she acts the same but instead of winning at the end, gets a deserved comeuppance.
>>153314839Ah, my mistake, I only saw you calling them subhumans, instead of Hinin.Please be patient with me, I have some minor tisms.
>>153314616Ignazs Semmelweis was driven insane by severe criticism and then thrown into a mental asylum and straight up tortured and murdered by other doctors all because he proposed doctors should wash their hands when going from dissecting cadavers in lecture halls to delivering babies.All this in the 1860s
>>153314732>Stan probably didn't know about it until well into the series.Yep. We talked about this a bit earlier in the storytime; Anon pointed out the first time the eta body removers are mentioned.
>>153314750I mean that would at least make some sort of sense for how she burns through all their savings so quickly. We always see her and kiyoko on the street working one way or another but they are perpetually broken. I would actually be interested in her if she actually did give things away but as it were she just seems to spend money like water. >>153314498>And remember, this shit was going on for *years* when it was originally being published. Half the stories in your favorite comic (new issue every other month! One trade a year!) were toothgrinding.Ouch, I just skip most Kitsune stories when they come up during storytime. I couldn't imagine the pain of actually waiting for the new issues to drop and seeing you're eating Kitsune for dinner again. What a terrible feeling it must be.
>>153314806Nevermind, I just recreated it from my memory.
>>153314939>What a terrible feeling it must be.It was not great, Anon.
>>153311418I smell the rain down in osaka
>>153314754>So yeah, Kitsune's options were to become a Hinin, Hinin or a HininThere was also starving to death. Though I suppose everyone has that option.
>>153314939>she just seems to spend money like waterOn what, though?
>>153315236Handsome young boytoys for herself and snacks for Kiyoko. Kitsune is a dirty woman. As soon as she's got money she's in the feudal lovechild of a handsome guy date cafe and a male strip club.
>>1533117501/2>How mighty was the shogun?He was the de facto authority of the land, the authority from which the daimyo (literally 'big name', the feudal lords that ruled the land) derived their authority, either because they were in direct alliance with the house of Tokugawa as a vassal, junior partner, or cadet branch of the family, or if they were on the other side of the Battle Of Sekigahara, because the shogunate allowed them to survive as a matter of expedience. Tokugawa Ieyasu, the founder of the Tokugawa Shogunate, went further than his predecessor shoguns, Toyotomi Hideyoshi and Oda Nobunaga, to concentrate power in the hands of his regime by never accepting the title of kanpaku, which was a rank granted by the government of the emperor in Kyoto. The important distinction to make here in this refusal is that Oda Nobunaga and Toyotomi Hideyoshi both derived their "shogunal" authority from the "kobu," or unified civil-military government of the emperor in Kyoto. Tokugawa made a clean break and said no, my shogunal authority derives power from itself, the "bakufu" literally 'tent government' of an army permanently deployed and in the field.
>>153311750>>1533154242/2 cont.>Did he have anyone that kept him in check?If you're asking 'did the shogun as a person have anyone that kept him in check?' The answer to that is a maybe, probably. The apparatus of state can't be held entirely by one person, and while the shogun's authority and decrees were absolute when issued to the public, there was lots of court intrigue in Edo castle to reach a decision, as you might reasonably infer. But if you're asking the shogunate as a governmental body? Nope. They paid some lip service to the divinity of the emperor but Ieyasu broke with tradition by not even having some de jure paper title recognizing the temporal authority of the emperor. As for real challenges to the power of the bakufu, Nobunaga and Hideyoshi deserve most of the credit for clearing those out of the way so Ieyasu could eventually reap the rewards of a political landscape where his clan could dominate nearly uncontested. Now there was always the threat that something would unite the daimyos against the central government, and in history this did eventually happen with the events culminating in the Meiji Restoration in the late 1800s, but for 250 years the shogun reigned unchallenged, although this was a delicate balancing act between giving the daimyos enough autonomy within their domains that they would be content to serve as vassals of the shogun, and making sure they were sufficiently cowed to not seriously contemplate armed rebellion against Edo.Sources: >“The Emergence of the State in Sixteenth-Century Japan: From Oda to Tokugawa.” https://doi.org/10.2307/132343>“State-Building and Political Economy in Early-Modern Japan.” https://doi.org/10.2307/2059957I'm just expanding on what anon and murderanon have replied to you with, I just wanted to include a source. You know how old mate Enmanon be about citing your sources.
>>153315286I know this is sort of a thing in Modern Japan (complete with girls dressing in butch for their date) but was Feudal Japan low key chill like that?
>>153314153Well, remember they're all, like, dogs. So, much smaller than a human.
>>153312198>>153312424It's got to be catbox. Litterbox still works: https://litter.catbox.moe/p0d2oa6bzlq29lxi.mp3
>>153315145Hey, I'm pretty sure I missed a few of your pictures, will you post a link to the full set when the storytime ends? Thanks in advance.
>>153314163>>153314193This not-very scholarly source claims there was a kind of apple-like fruit native to Japan that wasn't widely consumed but used as offering fruit, and that the apples we are used to began to be cultivated in Japan only after the Meiji Restoration.https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/japanese-apples
>>153314754>>153315236Kitsune has shown no shortage of marketable skills
>>153311359the smol bean :(
>>153315493Sure, np
>>153311521The titular Hatamoto's daughter was kind of a fizzle in this. She doesn't do anything but point the finger at her father's murderers and even disapears for the last bit of the story. She's bascially a message in a bottle rather than a character.
>>153313361Kino.>You look down and you see a turtle, Izuru. It's crawling towards y->Turtle?? What's that?>....you know what a neko ninja is? Same thing.
>>153315570Usage should given her to Ishida (who is her fathers friend) so we could at least have a scene of her with Lady Maple’s son
>>153314419>>153314806Link to the mega: https://mega.nz/folder/Dsd31LiR#grnO0n2INCHplEWo4nOCYQ>>153315038Sorry, didn't get to the thread in time.>>153315493I will have them all uploaded by storytime's end.Also, Enmanon has a favor to ask. Can someone go through last year's threads from roughly around this time and collect any edits and OC that were posted? Thanks in advance.
>>153315731I appreciate it nonetheless, I had them downloaded, but my hard drive burnt taking years worth of Usagi edits with it.
>>153314732You don't even have to go to these kinds of mental gymnastics. People are capable of operating within a system that contradicts itself. We do this all the time irl in >current year, Feudal Japan is no different.
>>153314616just read this in the faithful executionergood rec btw whoever did earlier in these threads
>>153315764>but my hard drive burnt taking years worth of Usagi edits with it.Like witnessing the Library of Alexandria on fire. My condolences, anon. Such is karma.
>>153315434>Nobunaga and Hideyoshi deserve most of the credit for clearing those out of the way so Ieyasu could eventually reap the rewards of a political landscape where his clan could dominate nearly uncontested.Nobunaga ground the wheat, Hideyoshi heated the oven so Tokugawa could eat the bread. I think I remember reading that, or something like it, somewhere. Kind of wild the change of power between these three before it became solidified for so long under Ieyasu.
>>153314750kitsune would be much better if:>she didn't get more brazen as the series goes onand/or>she and kiyoko didn't get a w on the very last page of literally every appearance past like noodles or soand/or>she at least got real losses on occasionpast a certain point kitsune stops getting any kind of really narrative pushback at all and she warps the story around her, hitting other characters with the idiot/simp ballthe kitsune vortex if you will
>>153311529Already had fugu a couple of years ago.Flavour was nothing special but the texture and tingly feeling I had for the rest of the day was something else.
>>153315424>>153315434Thank you Enma
>>153315462And it's gone too, catbox must be autoremoving whatever the song is. You'd need a different host.
>>153315784>good rec btw whoever did earlier in these threadsMurder and I almost exactly simultaneously. Glad you like it!
>>153316482The litterbox is only for an hour, anyway. The file is in the mega. Year 2021.
>>153314750For me she wouldn’t be nearly as bad if she wasn’t also stealing from usagi and co. It’s one thing if she’s robbing nameless paupers for the sake of thievery hijinks, but when those same crimes are committed against her friends it comes off as callous. On top of that it’s further exacerbated by the fact she seems uncaring about it all, highlighted most in the one feat. chizu. It’s not enough to fix her, but at the bare minimum she needs to start treating her friends like actual friends>Kitsune: no sense of right and wrong
>>153316494Oh coolYeah it was really solidI never would've expected executioners to be so reviled. Like i expected them to be feared but not also looked down upon and kinda sorta shunned.The healer/bonesetter aspect is also really interesting, especially consdering Frantz and probably many other executioners actually did it more than executing, and Frantz professed it was his real calling denied to him and his by some cruel twist of a fate and capricious margrave.Also didn't realize the dead body touching stigma was as big in europe as japan, even as body parts were so widely sought after.
>>153312658Wasn't this in quick succession with another story about a male household leader disapproving of someone else's creative pursuits to the point of murder?
>>153311643>My name is Inspector Frank Ishida, Sargent Lieutenant of Jitte Squad, a special detail of the Shogun's Police. There's been a recent wave of unconscious women found naked in inns in the western part of the Geishu lands. I was staying at a fine inn when I got the unfortunate call of a samurai dead by Fugu in the East. My boss was already on the scene when I got there.
>>153312464Ishida thinking it's time to murder his boss again.
>>153313319Feudal Japan is one step ahead of you.>Grandpa it's time. Go die alone by yourself in the shed by the creek so your impending death doesn't spiritually pollute our dwelling. The eta will be by for your corpse next week.
>>153317281Puts going up the mountain to die of exposure in perspective, I guess.
>>153311379>Yo Ishida>I got another orphan for you
>>153311379bottom middle panel of her reaching out to be picked up is super cute
Welcome back to the death rattle tally! Here are the new scream found in today's storytime:>Wrong!:1See attachment for total cry so far. As always, if you have any questions about the count, feel free to ask.
>>153311702And >>153311537 when fox wife drains your yang energy and leaves you a lifeless husk.
>>153312172>Stupid Rat!Have there been any rats besides the tmnt crossover?
>>153311691I'm not gonna lie, I'm loving these Law and Order: Special Shogun Squad episodes
>>153311700https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8UAI8W6jak
>>153318252There were a couple of bandits and a corrupt Inspector who were rats
>>153315145monkey ironchef and his...wife?? are cute i like them.
>>153313319When is the last time you helped your neighbors move their corpses, anon?
>>153313874>Truly he is at the peak of power levels hereSnitch is a bitch, he just so happens to hard counter Usagi
>>153318519Oh, neat. Is this your first time in the storytime?
>>153311691It's frankly sad that the "easily angered" Takomaru actually also quickly cools off when dealing with his son.This is also an unusually bad result for one of Ishiida's investigations. He solved the mystery but nothing good came of it.
>>153318252Big Mickey
>>153317281>short-range ubasute
>>153311700>I'm a liver, not a foghter!
>>153319198For a liver, he's not doing a very good job of living.
>>153319388One of them is a liver, the other is a dier.
>>153312424Yeah he’s definitely Nexumi. They look pretty similar. It’s interesting I don’t think Stan will pick up this plot again but based on visuals and pane 5 he’s probably the third.
>>153319583I can't imagine him being a part of it given how under watch he is according to Ishida. I imagine instead he's probably colluding with Nezumi if anything. Either giving him patrol information or insider tips on who to hit because it's a victimless crime that hits people the law can't touch because they operate in the letter of the law instead of for the good of people.
>>153312424>I wonder who that clever handsome bastard thief is.
>>153311987That's genuinely funny. +1 point for Kitsune>>153312798That's a tomorrow problem. Today's problem is all these cops know too much.
>>153312811>"It's eerie to see events unfold before me, but not be a part of them."MEDDLING: DENIED
Kitsune becomes more and more of a cartoon character.
>>153313787When the baby popped out, mom and pop took one look at his rhinestone sunglasses and said "welp, this one's gonna be the family fruit, might as well name him appropriately"
>>153313477I dunno, Nezumi talks like he needs to keep some of the stolen money to live on, while Inspector Nii has a govermnent job that should keep him well fed and comfortable. Robin Hood policeman would presumably be too idealistic to pad his wallet with two incomes.
>>153314671Gen's a practical man. You don't need a lengthy ritual purification if nobody saw you do it.
>>153319987This seems a little bit non sequitur, Anon. Sunglasses? Kill count? Baby?
>>153320089Oops, >>153319987 was meant for >>153313793
>>153312393Throwing another pebble into the bucket of "plotlines Stan introduced but hasn't paid off and might die of old age before he does so"
>>153314140Yeah. The fact the character it's to be delivered to is specifically named makes it feel like it's meant to be more important too, but if so, it's never been paid off.
>>153314750I think that makes her TOO nice honestly. I think her original concept of "girl does thievery to get by" was fine, she just needs to >not get away with everything all the time>not take insane risks for no reason>not steal from her friendsThose three things are the three pillars of why people dislike Kitsune IMO, and the infuriating thing is those three writing guidelines were actually followed in her early stories. She took a massive L in Noodles despite having a decent gameplan and gave Gen his purse back in Kitsune's Story.
>>153320586I bring it up a minimum of once a storytime, but for all well deserved criticism the netflix show gets, Flixune managed to do the 'lovable rogue' archetype well, just by toning down the thieving and making her risk-taking being in service of her friends and the world.
>>153320641I also liked that she beaned people in the head with her tops, Kitsune stopped doing that and it's a shame.
>>153320725Maybe Kitsune needs more fight scenes where she helps out Usagi and the boys.It wouldn't FIX her, but it would be a step in the right direction. Maybe also have her put on a puppet show, and Usagi has a minor panic attack remembering the last time he was involved with both a fox and puppets.
>>153314261Comics aren't just for kids anymore!
>>153320762If Kitsune repeatedly kept on saving Usagi's life it would explain why he is so lenient with her if it is out of a sense of life debt. Or even if just her first appearence had her notably manage to save him from certain death. I mean we saw that with Inazuma he takes it seriously.
>>153320762I'll go further. If she kept helping out in a bind, because she doesn't want to see her friends hurt, she could steal as many purses from Usagi as she wanted to. She would work fine as a character who cannot be trusted with your wallet, but whom you can trust with your life. As for now, she's mostly a burden.
Usagi but he's a h-h-h-HUMAN
>>153313477Nezumi is in between Ishida and Usagi in height based on >>153312354 while Nii is as tall as Usagi. Plus we see enough of Nezumi's face through the mask that the ring around Nii's eye should be partly visible. .
>>153321130Maybe Nezumi wears make-up to hide the ring and Nii has tall shoes?
>>153321186Nah, I'm >>153320023 and I'd say >>153319635 has it right. It doesn't make sense for Nii to do it himself, but he definitely could be helping Nezumi.
>>153315437I don't recall them being chill with female promiscuity.Male promiscuity was low key tolerated (as long as it didn't cause a scandal, like if the lovers were from different social classes).
>>153311700Stan forgot the eyebrow is a scar and not an eyebrow
>>153321093I always liked how accurate this is.
>>153321093Why is it so small?
>>153321534Have a slightly larger one.
>>153313477Stan is deliberately teasing the possibility at minimum, by never having Nii be around when Nezumi shows up. But the timing is insanely tight for it to work in a few cases, Nii would have to whip on that ninja outfit like Superman a couple times.
For the Nezumi & Nezumi mysteries, there's very few options if it comes to being a character that's shown and people in town. Nii can't be Nezumi from the eye issue, but he was conspicuously absent during the raid on the Bronze Madam where the Master was, and Nii as Ishida's trusted lieutenant could reasonably misdirect or hide evidence to "deal" with Ishida, so Nii = The Master is a possibility. The Chief being the Master feels too convenient and an anti-climax to the reader, big angry chief that you don't like and interferes with Ishida and Usagi is also the super secret big bad. Nii also would have had easy access to murder Daida in prison. My bet for Nezumi if it's someone we've seen is Ishida's wife. She has the cheek tufts, body shape and availability since Ishida's away from home whenever he runs into Nezumi so would unlikely to be noticed as missing. She'd also have a reasonable motive, she could have decided to take the law into her own hands, especially after her child's death and witnessing her husband's earlier corrupt bosses preventing justice.
>>153322111*The Nezumi & Master mysteries
>>153311373Way to stick the first impression.
>>153311396Stan didn't even draw her shaking her head, yet somehow my brain filled that in for me.
>>153311433Poor girl is having the worst day of her life.
>>153311558Wait, what happened to the girl Usagi left with them?
>>153312852>Abundance of samurai caution?More like Ishida killed the mood.
>>153311680Kid you fucking moron.
>>153311691Nonoonono Kid what are you doing NO!
>>153322338So far!t: Feudal Japan
>>153311700Yet another kid dead because of bushido bullshit.
>>153311819>We'll just settle for half of this room!Such restraint.
>>153311854>endangering innocent people with a fake product is percectly fine but I draw the line at grave robbingUtterly incoherent morality.
>>153311865Finally some real justice.>>153311871Of fucking course Usagi phases into existence solely to bail her out. I swear Kitsune stories are reaching bad fanfic territory.
>>153312408A bigger piece of evidence that Nii isn't Nezumi. Nii's nose. He's got a big dark round nose in his appearances. Nezumi has a small crescent shaped nose and an awful lot like a certain housewife's.
>>153313476And yet another reason as to why caste systems were a fucking mistake.
>>153311943RIP Taro.
>>153322507Then the Beggars’ Guild comes in, hiring the god damn Terminator
>>153322379Never touched upon to my knowledge, like some other Anons suggested she should have been adopted by Ishida
>>153312034Usagi taking notes from Dr. House and figuring it all out at the last second.
>>153312089Muro you had him on the ropes, why the fuck did you scream "HIYAH!"? You're facing off against a guy with ears so big they're part of his topknot FFS.
>>153312120Bitch WHAT?! Why the fuck would they even do this!? They only risk being on the Shogun's shitlist pulling a stunt like that. Kitsune laughing it off is ACTUALLY OOC, she should be fucking horrified at the implications here.I said it before, but it's painfully obvious Kitsune's just a writer's pet at this point. It feels like Stan was so desperate to give her a win here, that he came up with an ending that's just plain braindead.
>>153312143>Oh no, Chaotic cards! Our one weakness!
>>153312148>>153312158Man, where is even a fraction of this effort when it comes to Kitsune?!
>>153312165>>153312172Real Lupin the 3rd energy with this guy. Also fuck off Usagi, this isn't even your job.
>>153312372Missed opportunity to have the girl in the top right be Yuki with her mother (or aunt). It would've been a nice way to show her situation was resolved without needing to explicitly show it.
>>153322765Why doesnt Usagi settle down and become a cop?
>>153312298Usagi has jobbed to shit he shouldn't have before, but this is just embarrassing.
>>153312359The audacity of this fucker.
>>153312298>>153322807Never doubt the tiny net. Usagi is probably rotting like a Papaya while you're cozy, living the good life!
>>153312120After the first meeting of Kitsune and Idhida ending in her fleeing town this part just seems stupid. I'd rather see them stealing his purse with a few coins and a note like "for the road", showing that Ishida let them steal it
>>153322982I actually want to see her help solve some murders, maybe save a life with her thieving/performance skills, then trot along her merry way with a sack full of gold stolen from a serial killer or something>>153321113I couldn't even decide on a tone, if it was going to be a straight horror story or a comedy
>>153322111>My bet for Nezumi if it's someone we've seen is Ishida's wife.They would know it was a woman and wouldn't call Nezumi a man. Also, (minor spoiler for storytime later today) I'm pretty sure Ishida calling on Nezumi from home in The Hidden makes this unfeasible.
>>153323125Why would they know? Nezumi is covered from head to toe, and no description is made regarding Nezumi's voice is made. Women disguising themselves as men is a thing throughout history. I don't recall anything about the Hidden interaction making it impossible for Haruko to be Nezumi. There's also only two possibilities I see: Nezumi's an entirely separate character with no secret identity, or it's her. Nii would need to change clothes, apply makeup to hide his eye ring AND get a nose job within seconds to be Nezumi, and he's the only other candidate in town that I can recall.
>>153323263>no description is made regarding Nezumi's voicNo shit, but it's clearly implied by the fact that Usagi and Ishida both talk to him extensively and call him a man that his voice is male. Do you really expect Stan to As You Know, Bob a thing like that?
>>153323287Yes. I'd like you to put forward who else it could be besides "other". Which is a possibility to be sure. But Nii is far less likely than Haruki, he's physically too different.
>>153323083>>153322982>TFW no clusterfuck story that involves Ishida, Nezumi, Kitsune, Usagi, Stray Dog & Gen against a powerful group of assholes who get taken down hard>It ends with the bosses dead and Kitsune getting the sack....>Until she opens the bag and a note from Nezumi>"I respect the fact a girl needs to do what she can to get by but I can tell you wouldn't mind helping others despite the face you put up.">It's found out the assholes were also threatened the orphanage Stray helps out and the cash they lifted would cover their costs for a long while
>>153323314*Haruko
>>153313190I think it's notable that she's not moral but she is superstitious
