Are there any more blatant examples of writers clearly not knowing the continuity of the work they're writing for? I get that not every writer will know everything about a character in their 60+ years of history, but being so blatant in not knowing the backstory of the character they're writing for in a canon comic is actually crazy
>>153318530the movies are the real early issues, goyim
>>153318530>>153318537Some Shutter Island, Memento shit, dawg.
>>153318530Any continuity issues or retcons can be blamed on Mephisto.
>>153318530>I get that not every writer will know everything about a character in their 60+ years of history,The thing is, this part is ok, in the sense that you can't expect every writer to know every single thing about a characterWhere the problem is, is that this is on the editors to know the characters well enough to spot brazen mistakes like this. They don't have to know every single minute detail, but something like that panel, that's something an editor should've been able to notice is wrong.
>>153318530Norman wanted Peter to be his son in the Mackie-Byrne/Jenkins run. Wells' run is shit, but this isn't one of the offenses.
>>153318924>Norman wanted Peter to be his son in the Mackie-Byrne/Jenkins run.That's not treating him like a son.
>>153319051Given how he treated Harry I'm not too sure.
>>153318712>>153318810We live in an era where everything you could ever want to know is a web search and two clicks away. There's no excuse to not know.
>>153318530Yeah. I don't think giving a writer carte blanche to do as they please after admitting they know nothing about the character they were hired to write is a wise decision, but what do I know. Then again, I doubt editorial was any more knowledgeable than Leah was. Just ignorance and incompetence from everyone involved
>>153319075This is why writers and editors deserve shit for everything. And this is why Brevoort was beyond pathetic when he got into an Eltingville-esque trivia-off at a con. What a faggot and it shows blatantly how they're still interns at heart like him and Lowe letting shit like this and a bunch of coloring mistakes and typos get through. Utter lazy faggots who deserve 0 greenbacks and draw no dimes.
>>153318530Back in the day, editors existed for this. They hated it and complained it was fascism.
>>153319075Nah Mephisto is buds with Norman he would definitely change Peter's memories to help him out. He's cool like that.
>>153318530x-men's beastwhen they were doubling down on ignoring his actual benevolent personality, they were creating situations where his powers basically don't exist. he is no longer treated as if he has super strength, reflexes, senses or problem solving skills in a sudden situationwhatever the highlights of his background are, they're greatly exaggerated, lied about or run roughshodhaving him be evil when there is already an alternate timeline beast is quite possibly one of the stupidest oversights i've ever seen in writing as a whole, let alone comics.
>>153320968for context on why this is an example of not knowing continuity:>MGHbeast tested on himself, not on other humans or animals. this was ethical, his body his choice>Legacy Virushe is not responsbile for the existence of a virus. this is not an argument>threnodywas literally exploding people and killing them because she had zero control over her powers, it was driving her insane, and taking her near other mutants with little control of her powers would have been stupid and dangerous>alignment with inhumansbeast was literally trying to stop a race war, and was loyal to the x-men about it, just like beast was loyal to the x-men when he left the avengers>illuminatiiirc, the story wrapped in on itself because of timeline shenanigans. i find it hard to believe anyone would know about it at all, and this brings up the question if the timeline was ironed out, what happened to the infinity stones because beast had a mind stone inherited to him. maybe i just didn't grasp the conclusion very well>director of intelligencehe was given carte blanche to do what needed to be done while the rest of the council went to galas and kept their hands clean. for an island that they invited villains like apocalypse, sinister and cassandra nova (genocided 16 millioin mutants all on her own btw)>terra verdeyeah that was fucked up. almost like it was out of character for beast to do that. and magneto was probably fine with it considering he had a speech about taking over the economy>space prisonwhacked out, zero context event for no reason that was dropped as soon as it was brought up>poisoning someoneneedless>murdering wolverinedidn't matter because everyone was resurrected and there were absolutely ZERO consequences from any mutants dying
>>153320968fuck I hate Sage
>What's that? Decades of character development?>No that didn't happen
>>153318924When Peter first met Norman he had strongarmed a jew into financing a multimillion dollar Spider-Man biopic so he could lure Peter out to Joshua Tree in the hopes of murdering him in the same way Brandon Lee was murdered by getting the stunt team to unexpectedly try to kill him during a choreographed fight scene and the only reason Peter survived because they were all randomly attended by the Incredible Hulk.There was no parentage at play, and honestly, Ditko Peter would've thought was pretty queer.
>>153321131Post the panel of Janet reminding Wanda of her kids years afterwards
It's worse when they claim to know the character but everything they write is OOC.
>>153318530There is so much continuity, that there is no continuity.
>>153320968>>153321011I sincerely thank you for being one of the few people willing to stand up against the vile slander they've tried to run on Beast.
Every single Lanzig and Kelly book has some bullshit. They truly don't give a fuck about continuity. This book dealt with Inhuman lore and so it flies past most people but let me tell you this is very wrong and they said even more silly shit in interviews.>Kree using the mist on the Inhumans>the slave engine being used at all let alone being someone the Inhumans are shackled too>in a podcast they said Black Bolt isn't king through hereditary but because he is the strongest>The entire point of the Inhuman race is to create the strongest Inhuman which is apparently pic related
>>153321709Sadly if you write it wrong for long enough it becomes the truth.
>>153322783That's a great line.
>>153320968>>153321011This is basically Iron Man's The Crossing, but with Beast. With a very similar solution.
How do comics not have some sort of character Bible or quick reading list to understand characters, dynamics or a team? It always seems like a new writer has no prerequisite expectations and can just come in and do whatever they want. There's tons of fan made reading list and you're telling me Marvel or DC can't take the time to make official ones?
>>153322546Nah its immensely entertaining. He gets butthurt at scott for not dropping everything and rescuing him during dark avengers, and holds a grudge for a decade. Combined with a long term stewing over thinking he's the smartest guy in the room while getting stuck in basement as the tech guy who never gets a leadership position, so he goes power mad in krakoa the minute he does.
>>153324145It's been heavily implied the writers have to research things themselves and Editors are largely only concerned with conflicting with ongoing stories. For example nobody can mention Thor right now because in Ewing's Thor book thor doesn't exist.
>>153324145Because editors bad
>>153318530It's almost like having 60+ years of character history written by a whole bunch of different people is creatively stifling or something.If your paycheck is writing another Spider-Man comic, fuck it, reinvent. Who cares what came before?
>>153324273The audience that stopped buying the book because sunk cost regarding continuity was the only thing keeping them on.
>>153324145Until the 80s comics were seen as disposable entertainment. and there's never been any will to be more particular about consistency. What would be the benefit of it to them?
>>153324145I've long wondered if they don't have an internal wiki. It seems like such an obvious choice- writers would update it themselves with their thoughts and plans. Interns could do the hard work if writers were too lazy, just ask them what they're thinking. And the current status of a character, including their relationships, would be there for the taking.
>>153324145When company leadership doesn’t give a shit about the profession or work their attitude changes the organization to match
>>153324444From what I remember from a few game and book writers, they actually rely on fan wikis since the information is there(even if wrong)
>>153324512thats dumb.i'd write an internal blueprint document for other people work off. It also helps you keep your own story straight.
