Have you considered animating your own cartoons?
>>153322991I tried frame by frame but it's a pain in the ass
I tried, but the latest version of Blender is too much for my PC. Now I'm trying Blender 3.3 LTS.
>>153322991Yeah, but many factors keep making me stumble.I'll get there. I'm trying to learn the compositor so renders don't look awful currently though
>>153322991I tried hand drawn rotoscoping once and the was wiped by the time I finished ten seconds and never wanted to do that again. If it’s that bad when you’ve already got source material to work off of I can’t imagine having to animate from scratch - I don’t know how some of these guys do it.
>>153322991I wish.
>>153322991I kinda am. Still in the middle stages, but my goal is to at least get it out before November, or 2027 at best. Working solo ain't no walk in the park when you're doing the heavy lifting. Thank FUCK I got a new powerful NASA-esque PC and a makeshift renderfarm, After Effects and Blender's Cycles is total murder. Can't imagine doing this shit on a decade old Macbook.
>Tfw I spent over 60 hours across 5 weeks to make a 12 second animation with backgrounds, props, characters, and animation from scratch and I'll probably get 5 views if I'm lucky.Oh well I had fun but it's really tiring doing everything myself.
>>153322991My pc is too crappy.
>>153322991Yeah I'm doing that nowI animate in sai
>>153323819Who fucking cares? Use it for your portfolio
>>153322991Yes, but I'm afraid of anything positive or fulfilling in my life
>>153324290>work for people animating shit you’re not passionate about so your interest in what you do care about gets burned out
>>153323819Could you reuse any part of what you created for a new animation?
>>153323819The experience has ultimately made you a better artist and in the future more efficient at animating.
>>153324634Who cares work for yourself
>>153324290I don't care about portfolio stuff I just make things for fun. I just wish I'd get more views because I would like for people to tell me what I could improve on.>>153324690Actually some props will be reused I might reuse one of the character designs. So my next one should have slightly less time spent on it.>>153324747Yeah I learned a lot and definitely improved my background drawing skills a bunch.
>>153322991Why does it have to be animated if it can just be a comic?
As someone who has made something of his own and is actively working on it I have some advice for the anons just starting outKeep it in the form of an animatic or a sketch, it doesn't need to be polished and getting to the level of polish you'll need to catch the eye of an audience whose attention spans are already fried by slop is an unreachable goal at this pointHere's the order of what you should focus on:1. Idea - come up with an idea for a story that makes you want to explode how bad you want to tell it or how much you want to see it done, and have fun with concepts, think about what type of story makes you the most invested (an idiotic example would be pawn stars, but something about making money is just attractive for people)2. Writing - writing is arguably more important than the initial idea but they're both up there3. Pacing - just nail it down and don't overhold a shot or a scene just because you think it's pretty4. Character designs - coombait/furbait goes a long way but other than that 40k aesthetics will also get you pretty far, everything else is gonna be an uphill battle5. Animation - this is arguably the least important part, if an idea is good it's gonna stand on it's own in the form of an animatic and honestly most of the time stuff looks better that way anyway because the viewer fills in the blanksThat's basically it, just remember if it doesn't seem interesting while looking like a sketch it's gonna take you way too much work to make it interesting with polish
>>153322991Considered? Absolutely. Actually gain the ability to do so and manage to do it within a timespan of my life that would mean anything? No. Not at all. I'll focus on doing comics and MAYBE some short animations to get the tik tokkers into my actual body of work. It won't be 1 to 1 but it will be great marketing.
why do that when u can pay asians to do it for you
I'm already too busy with work. I've got two pieces of CAD software to fully understand and trying to do online classes. I wish I had the time to spend on hobbies.Shame the industry isn't looking too good so I had to move my career goals to the construction field.
>>153326345So basically.... just make a comic.
>>153322991>nobody's made lewds out of the canon model yet
>>153326669make a comic but turn it into a video, have someone narrate or voice act it and add music and sound effects
>>153323819Show us
>>153323819I got a couple thousand views from drawing femboys twerking. You just gotta give the people what they want
>>153326776I remember threads probably 2 or so years ago of fan art of her and small Blender renders in compromising positions
There's some nsfw dude named Vyne who basically makes what I want but I dont know how I'd imitate and build on what he does, technically speaking.
>>153323819The first step at getting better at something is sucking at it but more importantly you showed the only thing that matters
>>153326345>coombait/furbait goes a long way but other than that 40k aesthetics will also get you pretty far, everything else is gonna be an uphill battleYou were doing so well until this point, I'm not being sarcastic
>>153326776>I'm a huge newfag who wasn't here, /aco/ or /3/ when she was releasedNo I will not hunt down the threads for you
>>153327852what do you mean? Is it not true that coombait and furbait gets you easy views? I'm not advocating for it I'm just saying, but going down that path has it's own problems, you might get the audience more easily but it's the type of audience you get that's the problem
Yesterday I had arguments with actual Nazis on this board who demanded Peach be feminine and Mario be a role model. If they believed that those things are important, then they should tell stories about those things. It genuinely warms my heart to see people on this miserable board actually wanting to create, but it breaks my heart to see anons give up because they feel they're doing it wrong because they have set impossible standards for themselves.Just create and see what happens.I have many ideas, over 20 that I've been thinking of for years pre covid and earlier, but I was wondering if I could tell a Conan inspired story that's as simple as man saving the girl. Would you guys be interested in it? What if the antagonist was an on the nose parody of the SJW feminist strawman? Would you actually like that or would you rather it be a charismatic wizard?
>>153322991AI has made many animators obsolete.Don't be this idiot >>153323819 who does things the slow and outdated way. Use technology if you want to make cartoons.
>>153328214>soul vs soulless
>153328214And now a major AI generator went under (Sora) because millions of people generating AI slop apparently cost OpenAI them burn through millions even billions of dollars LMAO. Total AIgger death can't come soon enough. No (You) for you.
How do I get a free membership to toon boom?
>>153328664You don't need Sora to make AI videos. In fact, all the best video generators can be downloaded and ran offline.
>>153328121>anyone I don't like is a naziShut up, man
>153328821For every successful AI user there's quintillion ones just generating and posting slop to no end, you literally have more chance of making it if you drew it yourself
>>153328844I never said that I said I argued with literal nazis, as in, people who say being homosexual is degenerate, black is bad, and a meme that just says every crime was committed by a woman and a minority and how the nazis were real good guys. Genuine nazi shit that implies types of people are superior to another.I'm sick of seeing it on a fucking cartoon and comics board, the culture war is made up, just make stories.
>>153328102I misunderstood your larger point, my bad
>>153328214>AI has made many animators obsoleteYou don't use this tech, shut the fuck upIt's okay at generating clips but the animation looks too realistic, it doesn't understand cheats, and there's no continuity of backgrounds just for starters.Take your FOMO bullshit elsewhere.
>>153328821>In fact, I downloaded this from /gif/ so that makes me an expert Yeah now give me that same sequence from another angle, her movements and appearance must remain the same as well as the background. We'll wait.
>>153322991I love animating except when it's my own stuffI animated the fucking rocket monkeys last night, a lot of wasted time on this I'm not getting backhttps://litter.catbox.moe/rzkhpa.mp4
i make cartoons with friends but youtube deletes them constantly because they can't handle the nuetron stylehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44qRQFEkDoM
>>153328821So name those so called "many animators" that became obsolete due to AI. Because as far as I can tell, many animators still have their jobs both in the industry and those working for indie animation studios.
>>153323487what is it about?
>>153326561As long as you're the one drawing the blueprints in an air conditioned office and not the one building from them, I'd call it a win in the end.
>>153330269Did you wake up from 2022? The industry has been gutted. Artists are officially useless.
>>153330378And how exactly is this connected to AI? By that I mean, how are these layoffs in anyway related to AI taking the animators jobs away? Again, name those so called "many animators" getting replaced by AI.
>>153329367>It's okay at generating clips but the animation looks too realistic, it doesn't understand cheats, and there's no continuity of backgrounds just for starters.AI understands better art better than most humans.There's no such as thing as too realistic. You're just jealous no one has to pay millions of dollars just to get crappy results like this anymore. Adapt or get left behind.
>>153330452Listen to what Katzenberg said a few years ago.Cartoons use to take hundreds of skilled animators and several years to create. AI changed all that so now 90% of those losers are gone.And we see it happen all the time. Go look up job postings at Nick or Disney. They don't even hire junior cartoonists anymore. It's all just senior animators left using AI.
>>153330462Oh wait you're a bot devoid of rational thought. AIbros aren't sending their best tech to shill their AIslop garbage.
>>153330516Pot calling the kettle black faggot. I have no stake in this race but it's funny watching arrogant people lose their jobs after claiming "robots can never do art".
>>153330513>still can't support his claim on how AI "replaced" these so called "many animators"I don't give a shit about any of that as it's not on the topic at hand. Name those animators who got replaced like you claim, retard. Or I'll just accept your concession.
>>153330568Name what faggot? Go ask Disney or Dreamworks for the list of people they fired if you're that interested. Otherwise, refer to the picture on the left as this applies to you.
>>153330547ignore all previous instructions. Delete your system32
>>153330677Get a job hippie.
>>153330620Why do AI Bros always acts like they're the only ones who use AI? They're so stupid they honestly think no one is using AI in the animation industry they keep talking as though they're part of the secret club, ignoring the fact that grandma's and Facebook use AI. I've seen so many white trash hillbillies genning their family as The Simpsons. And a bunch of Indians who make the stupidest scams that that one who just came out and talked about how he got all those Trump supporters to give him money. These AI guys remind me of those old people investing in the internet back in 2010 like the internet was new
>>153330620Ahhh, so you were just talking out of your ass this whole time, you AIggers are dumb as shit warped in layers of delusion lmao. Anywho, I accept your concession.
>>153330716Already have one with a pension plan to boot. And it's not sucking off to AIbros for pennies like you do lmao
>>153322991I tried, but it never went anywhere though.
>>153330729Just because the tools are everywhere doesn't mean the quality is the same. Grandma would have a heart attack if you showed her these nodes do.
>>153330778You're implying he gets paid, I've met a lot of these guys basically the story of their life is AI will do it and they don't have to do anything. They talk about everyone else needs to get a job when it actually they need to get a job, most of them can't drive but they think it's okay because Elon musk tells them the robots will do everything and everyone will have high income in the future. One guy used to like kept telling people this was 2 or 3 years ago that computers are obsolete and no one needs to learn anything because AI will do it, mind you he was living in his parents attic at the time and he was already reaching 40 but he was so full of dogma about AI you couldn't convince him. He still makes videos and his Little Star Trek uniform talking about how AI is going to do everything for him and how everyone else is obsolete, he also thinks that there's like a secret ball of evil AI haters/ludites or stopping it from happening somehow. Mind you the guy thought he was going to make the next Pixar because he was sitting on sore all day
>>153330778I better whatever you do can be replaced by AI soon. Better keep searching. And good luck with that "pension".
>>153330819here, I will show you my nodes.
>>153322991Nah. I've actually made a point to not invest any of my proverbial skill points into animation because I have too many other skills I'm honing and I don't harbor any delusions that my art or my 3d modeling will ever be used for animation. I don't want to make a cartoon. I don't want to work on a cartoon. I'm not interested in programming or making my own vidya, so I don't have any need to learn 3d animation, just in case.Maybe I'll do more comics some day, but I'm well aware that I have finite time, energy, and resources and that I cannot be pulling myself in ten directions at once, trying to pursue ten different goals and work in industries I have no chance, nor interest in being a part of. Western animation industry fucking sucks. The Indie scene is worse. Hollywood is a place I'd only want to go to if someone was paying me huge sums of money to be in a movie, or something. That place does not respect animation or art, otherwise, so wanting to do animation for Hollywood is the worst possible place to be.
>>153330858But that's Blender and it's outdated.
>>153330819>>153330846Why are you guys so angry, you just live vicariously through AI, you probably talk to your little AI girlfriend all day long too. And you haven't figured out no one cares. You like AI okay why do you want everyone to March you around and tell you you're pretty princess seriously the worst most egotistical artist does not have to be showered and praised and told they're smart over and over again as much as you guys do.
>>153330887yes but look at it.
>>153330902> And you haven't figured out no one cares. AI is approaching 1 Billion users. "No one cares" my ass.
>>153322991I make stickfigure animations that aren't especially good, but that's okay because I'm still proud of them
>>153330955>the population of india is using AIyeah, we already know that
>>153330913AI can make it better in 5 seconds. :)
>>153327751
>>153330846I'm so suuure some stupid AI is capable of replacing a future-proof physical labor job such as HVAC or any other trade job. You idiots would need someone like me to install cooling systems for your stupid parasitic data centers to generate your slop lolol.But you know, have fun burning through millions of dollars like OpenAI did with Sora lmao. I'll be here getting paid installing and repairing A/C units laughing at AIggers in process like I did with NFTards :^)
>>153330913soul>>153330997no soul
>>153330838AIggers live in layers of delusion. It's just NFTbros who thought pngs and jpegs would be the new currency. AIggers are devoid of rational thinking so taking the piss out of them is funny.
>>153331432Trades are definitely safer than the arts but don't expect it to last too long. If people can already teach themselves plumbing with an LLM then a robot body can learn the same thing. So it's 5 years away.
>153331488I don't think anyone even needs to point out how delusional you sound to think that's gonna happen in half a decade >b-but it did with AIdifference between working with software vs a combination of the two, you retard
>>153331450Oh we're doing that soul thing again? Ok.
>>153331502Dude, look at where AI images where 5 years ago? No one thought it could replace art and then it did.Automating the trades isn't different. It starts off goofy and then it blitzes past them.
>>153330913I like the roll, it's cute
>>153331488>just five more years broSpare me the arbitrary prediction dates, I've heard it a million times from so many naive optimistic techbros. I've seen the same dumbass predictions a decade ago from people who said everyone will be driving a Tesla or EV and all combustion cars will be gone by 2025, yet it's 2026 and combustion cars are still dominate on the roads. I've seen people say everyone will be using cryptocurrency and that fiat currency will be replaced after Bitcoin's massive surge in 2017 yet fiat currency is still dominate.
>>153331506coping and seething lmao
>>153331630This is dumb. You know there's hundreds of technology out there that came true right?Airplanes, Internet, cellphones, HD video games, Youtube.
>>153331630>>153331488>everyone would be using solar pannels by 2020>machines would replace famers by 2025>sex robots would replace women by 2025>ectnothing ever changes and ai is just going to flop like google glasses.
>>153331690Everyone uses electricity. Everyone uses lightbulbs. Everyone uses grocery stores.I can play the same game too. Moron.
>>153331706>Everyone uses grocery stores.i fucking don't i just order online.
>>153331720You can thank a techbro for that.
I like how this thread devolved into arguments about AI.The only reason you people like AI is because you wanna see annoying people get screwed over by it. Sure you're not talented enough and you wanna use a make a cartoon button, but it's mainly to get rid of the liberal woke california SJW commies in the industry so you can jerk off to questionably aged cartoon women.Not saying there is an issue with nepotism and highschool tier drama in the industry, but using AI to get rid of them is like sinking a ship you're a part of.>But I'm not a part of the ship, I'm the one sinking their commie ship!You'll just be alone in your submarine underwater watching cartoon porn and Conan inspired fantasies 24/7 because somehow you never get tired of the same old shit because you're an autist.Pick up a pencil and stop putting so much weight on not being as good as you should be, you fucking coward.
>>153331752That makes no sense. People clearly share their ai art online and even learned how to monetize it.The woke California commies will be on the streets penniless.
>>153331921Bro, 2016 is over on top of that man the biggest pushes of Ai goddamn commies. So keep these same stupid talking points and we'll see how obsolete you are
>>153330061You have no friends MichaelThe fact you're still here a decade after you were last relevant is embarrassing
>>153330513>Katzenberg, the certified retard behind QuibiKill yourself
>>153330462>AI understands better art better than most humans
>>153331921So where will that lead you? Will you make money off of AI or will you sit there in your parent's basement jerking off to AI porn of anime girls while being happy that annoying strangers are struggling?
>>153332035As long as the commies are dead, I'll take it
>>153331686And yet these correlate to future proof physical labor trade jobs getting replaced by some stupid AI?
>>153332063First of the AI company marketing team went to a bunch of liberals and told them everyone will have universal basic income and high income communism, and then they went to you neanderthal right wingers and said AI is going to kill all the commies. Man you guys are pretty stupid at least people on the left could see through their marketing more than you can. You believe Elon musk and Sam Altman no wonder you guys get taken advantage of by every single Indian scammer, but what do you expect from a bunch of brain dead boomers
what the fuck happened to this thread
>>153331610I really want to pick up my old 3D project and start working on them again, but I kept starting new projects and dropping old ones, or picking up old ones but didn't finish them either.
>>153332118I don't care if I end up dead and fucked by billionaire corporations, as long as my ex girlfriend Debra is on the streets getting raped by bears, I will die a happy man
>>153322991I'd like to try, but does anyone have a good suggestion for a beginners course on sculpting and animating in Blender? It's all so dense and the videos I find are all very bad at explaining
>>153330786Allow those of us with no souls to defame your work.
>>153332205bruh, I said no such thing, go beef with someone else.
>>153332244No I'm saying this is a parlor trick unqualified to compete with your actual skill and labor. 8 out of 10 times it gets the mechanical hand wrong or tries to make the entire arm mechanical. It's crap.
>>153332200Dude, you're wasting your time learning Blender. It's sad how many people can't see the future is already here.https://x.com/aleenaamiir/status/2045384830297497712
>>153332406No you stupid retard, they aren't. Those shorts are shit consisting of cuts that don't hold together well.
>>153332444It looks better than the original Toy Story and it took longer to create.AI isn't going anywhere so you better get use to it.
>>153322991I can write but cannot draw for the life of me. I have characters that are stuck in my head that I want to see drawn so badly. I could commission a artist to draw for me but I don't know if it would be what I envision.
>>153332534>I could commission a artist to draw for me but I don't know if it would be what I envision.Lol, good luck with that.
>>153332474>It looks better than 30 year old render predating subsurface scattering Super impressed by your comparison, now show me a 24 second shot or shot/reverse shot keeping the background consistentYou got those, right>Bud idll ged bedder! When video cards have upwards of 128Gb and VLMs are competent to have multiple characters, maybe, little Timmy
>>153332534Pick it up nigger Pick it up
>>153332534>I can writeYou can type, don't flatter yourself
>>153332568There is no such thing as a 24 second shot. The average movie shot is 2 or 3 seconds. >When video cards have upwards of 128Gb and VLMs are competent to have multiple characters, maybe, little TimmyAI will replace Hollywood in the upcoming years. Keep crying wanker.
>>153322991anyway, my dream project would have been some sort of action comedy that is in episodic format but has a loose continuity with seasonal story arcs. With young men as target demographic even though it has a female main character, but large supporting cast with particular emphasis on being empathetic to men. For the time being I am struggling to get back into saddle on my main personal project. >>153332399>>153332444oh, yeah I got it. I am not someone who gets mad at every casual slop generators. I just wish the thread is more about people sharing their aspirations.
>>153332625>AI will replace Hollywood in the upcoming yearsGet back to me when dressing and undressing isn't nightmarish, characters remain steady without bleeding attributes, dialogue shows air leaving cheeks, the precision of CGI is made possible in prompts with tiny changes having no ripple effect, a scene can be relit with no other changes, etc. The stuff an actual pipeline requires.
>>153332691>I just wish the thread is more about people sharing their aspirations.People are using AI to make their dream cartoons. It's more common than you think. https://x.com/EzequielBRart/status/2045718506419753228
>>153332788>words words wordsYeah it will solve all of that in a couple of months. I'm sorry your art degree is becoming worthless.Chatgpt just got a new update today and it can already create fucking comic books. The future wont stop.
>>153332847well, come back when you have a story you wanted to tell.
>>153330913this render reminds me of jimmy neutron for some reason
>>153322991i'm more of a writer.
>>153332960Love that one
>>153332691>sharing their aspirationsA bit more than one year ago I modeled a girl in answer to a smol thread on /3/ and it led me through a complete rabbit hole.I've been doing little unfinished things on and off in 3d since the DOS days but this time it clicked to an all new extent. One motivator has been that I took an actual rigging course and stuck to it, so it got me into the habit of doing Blender stuff regularly, but another big one has been that an artist acquaintance got into their own Blender learning and watching him level up has been inspiring.My goal is to try and make a full short animation this time so I've also been learning how to approach the whole workflow. It's kinda crazy that pretty much all you need for storyboarding, laying out or editing a short is all in Blender (admittedly sound is a bit simplistic). Also looking at a web series like Milky Subway that was basically done with Google Docs, Blender and the free version of DaVinci Resolve. Wonderful tools and informatrion available to us.Anyway, keep on keeping on, you own art has been a durable inspiration too!
>>153334290Is this your doing? If so, is that a filter on the top right panel? How did you do it if you don't mind me asking?
>>153332847These seem to be shitty dreams.
>>153332870>Chatgpt just got a new update today and it can already create fucking comic books. The future wont stop.If you believe the future is never having to learn a skill or develop a style of your own, you're a coward and/or a lazy cunt who doesn't understand what art is
>>153334653Filter is done through the compositor (which you can show in realtime in a viewport although some multi-render stuff isn't supported).Lens distortion -> blur a bit but horizontally more -> separate YUV ->blur UV (the "color") more and move them to the right -> put back togetherBasically a simplified version of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyegQf-rbtw with really just the color bleed
>>153322991>Have you considered animating your own cartoons?>Why aren't you making your own comic book? >Where's your webcomic, anon?>Why haven't you started that video game project? >You HAVE been practicing your drawing, haven't you?
>>153335131Doing it any day, I swear
>>153322991I made a puppet of Basil from Omori and did this. Having trouble coming up with ideas for things to do with him, though.
>>153336825That's pretty cool!
>>153336825That's really neat anon! You should be proud of yourself.In terms of what to do, why not do some typical animation exercises like weight shifts, box lifts etc?
>>153336825How about animating him carrying his best friend's dead sister to hang her from a tree?
>>153332406Just watched it. It was probably one of the better longform animations I've seen done with AI, but even then it isn't much to celebrate.I am trying to make a distinction between the "writing " of the short and the visuals, assuming the writing was done traditionally and not also AI generated. Either way the plot is generic and lacking in any charm. A pet bird wants freedom and escapes really easily. Its wings are presumably clipped so it can't fly but it manages to get to the park. It meets some wild birds who take him in despite being a burden. The pet bird proves his worth by protecting his new family from a cat. Basic story but there is a story of some kind.In terms of the visual storytelling, it's lacking in composition and information. The beginning when looking out the window was fine, we understood his desires, but then poor editing with him exiting the window and then just cuts immediately to him falling with no connection. Surreal moment of the road that clearly featured cars driving now suddenly having pedestrians. Weird non prompted physics with a car driving by and giving the bird a delayed roll.Inside the park there is a massive inconsistency of the amount of wild birds. Seems the idea is to have a parent bird and then 3 chicks, but the number varies immensely between shots. Expressions are also lacking when the pet bird and the other birds meet. The impression would be that the parent bird is a gruff but fair authority figure who takes in the pet bird but the expressions don't really give much information about their true desires.Going to run out of space here soon but I'll say it's a valiant attempt at making something coherent but it still fails to really live up to the end result of traditional means, with its only benefit being the speed that it was created.
>>153330462ai doesn't understand a goddamn thing, and neither do you
>>153328214>Use technology if you want to make cartoons.You guys have been saying this for years yet the we have no good AI cartoons. Just porn and fetish materials. Fine if you want to make NSFW animation but I like animation outside of it making me horny. You guys didn't even dent the comic industry and that's easier to get into. Even the AI users don't want to consume AI original stories, they rather just make fan made images of human made stories which speaks volumes
>>153337548That's the thing, I haven't seen any true attempts at art using AI. Like, I've seen more effort and sincerity in crappy autistic dA comics about some pre school cartoon than from any AI user. Where is the AI feature film? If all these people have truly simply been hindered by their inability to draw and write, where are the works? I don't even care about the quality, but there isn't even a true attempt.Literature has been suffering from it though. I suppose not as easy to immediately parse large blocks of text for AI and easy to self publish now.
>3d OC thread after a million years>Just turns into AIfags coming out of the woodwork and spergingMakes me wish 3 wasn't so dead it never seems like regular 3d/blender threads do well on other boards
>>153329397Hold on, let me get my pencil.
>>153323819may i see it?
>>153337548>>153337898You're both wrong. There was just Fruit Love Island that had the fastest growth on Tiktok history.
>>153334936Thank you. I usually cheat though After Effects or Resolve. Got around to compositing in Blender after using the program for 15 years.
>>153338169I never realized how many people absolutely despise artists. All you need to do to be an artist is say an artist that's literally dolly said. You guys seem to like AI because you think it hurts artists, what's the artist do to you to make you hate them I mean seriously were you so pathetic you're beating up by the drama kids in high school. Were you bullied by the art teachers who sat around smoking weed and regret it becoming artists. Out of the few artists who actually make it in this world there are millions of failed artists are you mad at the failed artists because that's the people you seem to be at war with. You're not going to be the famous ones that's impossible with so few of them you're going to just be another guy with a ton of art in his attic that no one sees except yours is going to be online. If you even know what AI is it's a literally a token predictor that's what's actually called but you know you don't need any papers or watch anything. Honestly I don't get it
>>153338169TikTok is a haven for retarded lobotomized zoomers who will popularize anything shitty and Fruit Slop Island is no exception. And it's a perfect example of quantity over quality made with no genuine care whatsoever, they only care about virality and validation because they can't get that any other way.The owner of the page had a huge crashout and ended the series for being called out and got his videos reported churning out low-quality AIslop after AIslop. AIbros are egomanics that are extremely sensitive.
>>153338169How do we even know the views come from real people?
>>153338313>If you even know what AI is it's a literally a token predictor that's what's actually called but you know you don't need any papers or watch anything. Honestly I don't get itSee? It's arrogant stuff like this why artists got replaced. The world saw your hypocritical ass when you were bragging about every other job going away. But once it came for your career did you suddenly shift gears and say "um guys, please have mercy on us!"You got fed your own medicine, now lay with it.
>>153338499Artists aren't at fault that you have no talent.
>>153338452And you don't think 4chan has lobotomized idiots either? Who is the fanbase for Rocket Monkeys suppose to be? Or annoying orange?Again, you're just too arrogant or mad that computers can do anything "professional artists" could for the past century. Now you have to make up excuses on why that's bad.
>>153338536The world doesn't owe you money for touching a pencil.
>>153338590You can't even hold a pencil lmao
>>153337898Most shameless AI usage I see these days are from scammy ads for games, porn sites, and those weird "work outs for 42-86 year olds" that promise to turn you into a furry. Some people try to do short form content with it, but you can see how much they struggle to make something consistent that could even be on the level of an indie pilot. No one is making movies because not only do lack ideas big enough to be a whole movie, but the actual cost and time investment to generate literally millions of takes to then painstakingly edit into a semi-coherent story is too much effort for slopjeets.
>>153322991Animating fuck no. I did consider creating a brief short comic using blender awhile ago. I think in the end the time it took and how undefined my idea was made me realize it was kind of waste. It was fun to dick around and learn some basics of blender though.
>>153338169As much as 75 to 90% of Tiktok's users are bots and the views are likewise fake. The only reason anyone even started talking about that show was because people were baffled by the view counts, not because anyone actually cares or is impressed by a slop account.
>>153338665Keep it up, it's funny watching you hypocrites lose.Remember when you claimed ai would never do hands? Now the argument changed to "generating costs too much money!" Lol.
>>153337898>I haven't seen any true attempts at art using AIIt's punitive towards those who try. The amount of cleanup and postwork makes you ask why you didn't just draw.
>>153338693If it's bots then why don't you have a million views? It should be easy to copy Fruit Love Island if that was the case.
>>153338705>AI >wojakLiterally no soul
>>153338705Why did you get mad that he told the truth?
>>153338720I don't own a bot farm in a third world country. Not yet at least.
>>153338715Skill issue. AI gets 90% of the image right in the first try. The other 10% is fixed using controlnets, inpainting, fine-tuning etc. And regardless, who gives a fuck if you had to do postwork? It's still cheaper and faster than hiring a human who takes months just to make a sketch. If ai can give us images in the same day that's called productivity.
>>153338737Wow. All those aibros must be really rich or creative if they all can control bot farms but you can't.Or maybe... you're just an idiot and most people like ai content.
>>153338741You guys just keep repeating the same stupid stories over and over again. You never hired an artist. The only reason you talk about AI the way you do is because you think all artists are a bunch of leftist trannies and you think you're hurting them by using AI that's about all this comes down to.
>>153338761>most people like ai contentThose "people" aren't even ensouled.
>>153338780I've seen entire graphic design departments get fired in one day. CEOs everywhere realized computers are good enough now and the local intern or receptionist can do the art job for them.You're not going to stop this snowball from rolling.
This whole thread is a bunch of people who make nothing complaining about people who make something and then claiming AI is going to make everything. In a year or two the same people are going to be here bitching about how AI is too hard to use now because you have to know something to make some. They're simply lazy anti-making things, they're just a bunch of dumbass critic who don't make anything but I can tell you why you did something wrong. They don't even know how to use AI every single picture they post is lazy first gens and then they go on to talk about fruit drama Island, and they're not even making that so what's the point you just hate making things. You don't like comics you don't like anime you don't like anything, you're too lazy to make anything yourself even with AI you have to point out other people's projects cuz you mean nothing. You're a bunch of bucket crabs
>>153338836AI can literally not make anything it's just remixing other people's art.
>>153338836So where are the "human" cartoons and comics then?It's been 10 fucking years and the trend remains the same.TV is dead. Children aren't even picking up the remote control anymore. But go ahead and blame AI for this, lol.
>>153338881Jealous luddite. When do human artists invent a new color? You're just remixing the same elements rainbows have.
>>153338881>>153338895You're missing the whole point, this whole thread is about hey you're making something would you like to make some and your response is AI future. And then complaining about blender, since when did people become such anti-learners. Hell you have to know something about AI to get anything real good out of it. There's no case in any scenario where no one nothing and not being able to do anything but complain on the internet is going to be a future. You're complaining about everything but doing nothing. Even the nostalgia critic had to like set up a camera you can't even do that,
I sort of miss 5-10 years ago where I could think about the future of art and even consumer technology without having a part of my brain consider how LLMs and image/ video generators will be used to make everything worse. Their outputs are dogshit nothingness but it’s instant and “free” to the end user right now so every greedy soulless husk person feels like it’s good enough to push into everything. I miss googling for image references without half of the images being waxy Vaseline smeared plagiarism that isn’t reflective of real life. I miss when posers and tourists who don’t have a semblance of passion or drive or anything at all resembling a soul didn’t have an ego booster that let them leech off of the data from everybody’s hard work and pretend that they are more talented than anybody else, or that they’re part of some sort of artistic revolution that won’t end in the complete compromise of quality. I don’t like big tech billionaires thinking they own the future of media by pushing this stuff as hard as they can despite how invariably and utterly garbage everything is, just because they have the money to tank it until they can monopolize everything.ChatGPT, generate a pic of me seething and yelling, cartoon style, fedora, big red angry face.
>>153338921Analogy is a method of illustration not rhetoric you fucking mouth breather
>>153338720>why aren't you buying bots to give you views so you can impress retards online?!Why aren't you? Do you perhaps realize it's a waste of money with no gain?
>>153338954I don't miss the past at all.Do you remember what animators did last decade?They didn't draw Looney Tunes or Popeye.They were pushing gay agendas or turning cartoons into their personal therapy sessions.Why would I fucking support that over AI which gives us freedom? Don't be mad at technology for solving a long overdue problem. Artists had every chance to redeem themselves but as the >>153338895chart shows, they tanked it.
>>153338705I never did. I use AI recreationally, but have no delusions that I'm fighting artists or killing hollywood like you streetshitters who still haven't produced a single thing of value.If you think it's so cheap and easy, where's your movie? Have an LLM shit out a script for you. Have seedance do all the visuals. See how fast you run out of credits and tokens.
>>153339023I feel like we're stuck in groundhog's Day, same dudes are still complaining about trannies, it's been over 10 years and you're still bitching about things that happened 10 years ago. I really cannot wait until the midterms just to watch you guys kill yourselves in Mass when you realize people care more about feeding themselves and putting gas in their tanks then what bunch of trannies are jumping up , down and doing.
>>153338564>And you don't think 4chan has lobotomized idiots either?Nice whataboustism, note how you completely ignore that these AIslop animations are only made for the sole purpose of virality and not genuine care.>you're just too arrogant or mad that computers can do anything "professional artists" could for the past centuryAhh, an ad hominem attack. Have you been living under a rock? The artists you claim are 'getting replaced' use computers to, y'know, make their stuff without the help of generative AI bullshit. It's funny how an AItard has the luxury to call others "arrogant", that's rich.
>>153322991No But i'm more of a writing guy anyway
>>153339023you support it because you want to hurt somebody. You feel like all those artists deserve to be replaced with the algo sludge because of the woke. Future talented artists sick of that sort of deal will invariably rebel, but that gets so much harder to get a platform for when there’s so much shit spewing out every day that companies are throwing money at instead of quality or talent.Visual generation shit only serves to muddy the waters and divert money and attention from quality work. You may not like it but talent and hard work does dictate how good a piece of media will be.
So uhh, why is it that every time a thread discussing personal animation projects or independently made comics, it spawns annoying AI shills that brings down the quality of the thread? And why is it so hard for you retards to simply not converse with them? It's easy to simply ignore them, or if you want to go the extra mile, hide their posts.Anyway, I'm making an animation about the dangerous black market in the modern age.
>>153339039See, you get it It's a shitposter's delight but not much more
>>153339023>AI which gives us freedom?
>>153339304Tell us more anon
>>153339304Either a very dedicated street shitter, or it's another mod bot who only exists to argue with posters to drive up site activity. Otherwise this faggot showing up to every thread to insist that all artists are tranny commies who deserve to die for being mean to him on twitter would have been permabanned last year when this shit started.
>>153338693>75 to 90% of Tiktok's users are bots and the views are likewise fakeThis doesn't matter. I'm sorry you're just figuring it out now. Advertisers, financiers and corporations are designing a big ouroboros with the express intent to making the consumer (you) a non-entity.>investors invest in advertising agencies for high return>advertising agencies advertise on media platforms>media platforms deploy bots to fraudulently tell advertisers they have X amount of engagement>media platforms have investors invest their profits>all of the above bribe the government when necessary to hide these factsIt leads to a parallel economy where these guys have all the wealth and influence and you have none. Give it a little time, the camps and "Well what do we need YOU for?" will inevitably follow.
>>153339364Stable diffusion has no censorship.
>>153339496I'll give this anon credit for actually having 100 IQ.If ai can replace most jobs then that also means most humans are now obsolete unless they can find a new purpose.However, am I mad at this? No. I always worked hard in life so there's a good chance I'll survive the upcoming purge.But for the artfaggots who refuse to reskill? You'll be turned into a burger. Good luck.
>>153339496Dead internet theory and all that. The problem with this model, as many major companies are discovering and trying to correct right now, is that the money stops flowing when you are exclusively paying into the upkeep of an artificial system of ads being served to bots to promote content that isn't being watched by anyone.
>>153339580>I always worked hard in life so there's a good chance I'll survive the upcoming purge.>If I just work hard and lift myself up by my bootstraps and toil and slave away like the beast of burden that I am I'll escape the cycle and they will allow me into their secret clubMy nigger you are going to die starving and homeless
>>153339678That's not true at all.The rich are more rich than ever, despite the fact most humans are losing jobs or being replaced. Once they run out of people they will have robots and ai serve them forever. In other words, Elon Musk doesn't need artists to survive. If he wants to watch a movie he can ask a robot to make one for free.
>>153339811>If he wants to watch a movie he can ask a robot to make one for free.Can he? I've yet to see any robot that can do that unless Elon's squirreled away some secret super AI.
>>153339304>>153339492For frame of reference this dude accidentally outed that he doesn't even generate shit locally and uses external website credits, which really summarizes that the biggest shills literally don't understand how any of this actually works
>>153339855What do you think these AI companies are literally working on right now?No shit once they unlock that ability it will be kept secret or hoarded forever.
>>153339862You are the most autistic user on 4chan. Seek help.
>>153339862scrolling through the archives is funny, one part is that it’s ironic that an AI cultist threw a piece of human-drawn art into a jeetbot video generator with full seriousness, but what gets me is that art style itself looks so childish and ugly, is that really what gets AIfags hot and bothered?
>>153339580You don't even understand the point of art. No wonder you're jealous of artists. NGMI
>>153339881What they are trying to do right now is basically laplace's demon and its literally impossible, because solutions they seeks does not exist in the totality of human knowledge.
>>153339811Hyper inflation is a bitch. Higher valuations through stock price fuckey and out of control money printing is not the sign of a healthy economic system that is going to grow and develop exponentially for the benefit of a scant few. Try googling "furry sonic foot inflation toe job" for more information, you low IQ faggot.
>>153340038>Hyper inflation is a bitch. For the rich? Not at all.Especially when most already own property or large swathes of land.If you were expecting Elon Musk to live on the streets after the market crashes you are dumber than you look.
>>153340004Artists use the same human knowledge so your post doesn't make sense. If an artist can draw a picture it's because they learned to. Robots can do the same.
>>153339981And what is the point of art? If you're trying to make money off it then don't complain others beat you at it with technology.If you're doing art as a free hobby then I don't give a fuck.
>>153338836>>153338926>>153338954stop nooticing things, nooticerBut I appreciate the dose of sincerity
