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>Have original idea for a character, concept, or plot that I absolutely think is good
>Want feedback and harsh criticism from different perspectives that aren't mine
>Too afraid to post them online out of fear of having them stolen
How do modern mangakas, comic book writers, and novelists get around this dilemma?
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>>153331479
Alot of times you aren't gonna get that proper feedback until after you've already started your story. You are technically allowed to 'mess up' in your first three chapters cause not everyone has their characters figured out fully from the start. If you focus too much on making it perfect then you're never gonna start.
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>>153331479
Just nut up and post about it. If faggots don't like it then tell them to piss off.
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>>153331479
You come to the understanding ideas are cheap, and execution is what matters.
Also, anyone so lazy as to steal an idea isn't going to do anything with them anyways.
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>>153331479
If it's good, I'll steal that shit. Is it a comic?
May wanna think about copyrighting, but that may not be enough.
>>153332735
That's not true. It's not laziness, it's application. If someone comes up with a method for a certain thing I'm trying to do, I'll adopt (steal) that method.
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>>153331479
You're going to have to post it for anyone to care enough to give you any sort of feedback
Don't do it here, this place is full of too many bitter autists and schizos for you to garner any legitimate advice
But also you're going to have to simmer down the idea that your idea is good enough to be stolen because that usually doesn't happen to randoms on the internet. You're not noteworthy as far as I know so why would anyone care or notice you in the first place
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>>153331479
Every idea you have is going to be "shit". What matters most is that you work towards a central, defined endgoal with these ideas. Even if YOU think that endgoal is stupid, or has been done better before, do it anyways. You will never move forward without making that idea real.
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>>153333030
Way off. Good ideas are plentiful, but good execution is the real challenge. But you have to start somewhere, or it will never come into existence.
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Post it to chatgpt and ask for feedback nd harsh criticism
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>>153331479
>How do modern mangakas, comic book writers, and novelists get around this dilemma?
They usually have people involved in the production pipeline to give them feedback or tell them things or to ask about. Mangakas notoriously have editors that will completely change the way a series works if they think the creator's original ideas are trash. Naruto wasn't even going to be a human until the editor insisted he make the characters human and not just a bunch of creatures.

Sadly when you're on your own, from my experience, you can only springboard off of close friends, which obviously we don't have many of. Considering I only have a few, and I don't want to spoil them on how the story ends, I can't really get feedback that way for bigger ideas I want to be a surprise, to know if something is derivative of a notable story or movie or series I've never seen. I wouldn't want people to say shit like "this was ripped off from star wars, star trek, or evangelion" just because it ended up doing something exactly the same way by accident.
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>>153331479
Find a smaller critique group or an editor. Not everyone's feedback is useful. But if you're eager for the public feedback route then post enough small but completed chunks like a character design, a scene of a character in action, some pages showing off the setting or character interaction, meme templates with your characters, etc. This leaves a paper trail while you're gauging reactions. If you're really paranoid then complete at least one chapter before sharing or self-publishing. People can't give feedback on something that doesn't exist. Reminder that ideas by themselves are worthless. Don't be like the typical ideas guy who spends more time worrying about how to protect his imaginary potential success than actually working on it.
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>>153331479
>Make something
>Show it to someone
>Do it privately if not in public
Start where you’re stuck. Don’t overthink it
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>>153332950
Copyright is granted upon creation, at least in the US and some other countries. Registering a copyright is an extra step that offers more protection but isn't strictly speaking necessary. You do bring up a good point though; why bother stealing an idea when you can just steal the whole thing? it's just something you gotta make peace with.
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>>153331479
I always hear people make this excuse but the thing is if you're serious, which I doubt, about following through and being eager to start then you really could just do what the OPM webcomic creator did and publish the version you can manage now to get it known as yours and covered by copyright to the extent possible, then from there refine it or work with someone to help you.

The idea there's some rational hurdle is usually just a rationalization from the reluctant ego to face what the OPM creator feared; that no one would care at all anyway and you'll have to give up daydreaming scenarios of success or betrayal and live a mundane life as the nobody you are like everyone else.

Of course, funny enough that wasn't how his story went precisely because he got so fed up wrestling with doubt and uncertainty that he decided to just wing it without a care so he could move on with his life in some capacity. So do or don't, but wasting time blogging about the maybe isn't achieving anything.
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>>153331479
Post it somewhere you have to log in so you have receipts if they steal it. It didn't stop Rick & Morty from stealing from me but if it was somebody small you could sue them
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>>153331479
Just talk to like one of the free AIs like Grok or ChatGPT for boiler plate input regarding your ideas. Best case: you get bit of constructive advice. Worst case: the machine doesn't know what it's talking bout and you can call it a moron.
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>>153331479
if you have friends, show them
you DO have friends, right?
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>>153331479
I've come to realize, it's better for someone else to steal the idea and make it into a comic/game/movie, than for me to procrastinate for decades and never seeing my idea materialize.
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>>153334329
One of the things people just do not seem to understand about copyright is that it doesn't not cover ideas, characters, or stories. Just works. It's why I said ideas are cheap; there's a billion+1 shitty isekai manga that are all the same outside a handful of frills. Hell, we're on a comics and cartoons board; anyone want to go off about how many Superman knockoffs there are?
What matters is making it the way only you can. Even if someone used the exact same ideas(STRONG chance someone has at some point), they won't make the same thing you will.
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>>153331479
You gotta get a girlfriend and make her read them
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I'm-a make this easy as shit for you bro: One Punch Man forever ended the "My stuff isn't good enough" excuse. Look it up if you don't know what I'm talking about, and then go post something online and stop being a bitch.
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>>153331479
Good question. Probably post their stuff on social media or a forum than look how much response they get.
Better question what are the best places to show-off your thing.



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