[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/co/ - Comics & Cartoons


Thread archived.
You cannot reply anymore.


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: IMG_6144.jpg (506 KB, 1434x1628)
506 KB JPG
>be space hitlers who genocided billions upon billions
>get a taste of humanussy
>become peace-loving pacifists with empathy
What did Invincible mean by this?
>>
>>153333638
Thragg did nothing wrong. It's everyone else's fault for going soft.
>>
>>153333692
Thragg...
>>
Might makes right is a fraudulent ideology that produces profoundly lonely people aching for any kind of genuine connection. Conquest is basically the embodiment of the Viltrum empire, and he's fucking miserable.
>>
Love wins but unironically.
>>
>>153333888
Mega-Hitler I kneel...
>>
>>153333692
hows viltrum doing these days, thragg?
>>
>>153333692

Thragg these balls in your face.
>>
>>153333638
Humans are just superior.
This is just like how Supergirl, for example, is in love with me and me alone and my BWC.
But in all seriousness, beings who have not experienced so much as familial intimacy being given access to eroticism creates a massive psychological nuclear bomb.
>>
>>153333638
>Alien is big, bad and does whatever it wants
>Human fucks Alien
>Alien now does whatever the human wants
It is shocking how much media has this
>>
File: Hot Coco.png (260 KB, 633x356)
260 KB PNG
>BTFOs out of most Viltrumite children
>>
>>153333983
>made for a human audience
media doesnt exist in a vacuum
>>
What I don't get is how Viltrumites hadn't evolved to become extreme sociopaths who lack a capacity for love or compassion after thousands of years of culling anyone who isn't a barbarian.
>>
>>153334043
because its behavioral, not biological
>>
>>153334043
They live for over a thousand years, there was no way for them to evolve into truly heartless savages, it’s all indoctrination from a young age and the constant reinforcement of might makes right when love conquers all.
>>
>>153334079
you also couldnt control something as evolutionarily complex as behavior with something as simple as culling
>>
>>153334105
You literally can though, at least enough to affect basic personality traits. Human sociopathy is at least partly hereditary and domesticated animals have massively different psychological traits from their origin species.
I guess the age excuse kinda works though. It's not a major issue since a hyperfascist empire getting obliterated by good pussy is objectively hilarious.
>>
>>153334105
But look at jeets?
>>
>>153334189
Very different circumstances. Jeets ce from hypercompetivness resulting from overpopulation. They are forced to scheme and fuck eachother over because an individual jeet is worthless, so they have to stand out as individuals as much as jeetly possible.
Basically the Skaven.
>>
>>153334170
>You literally can though,
not for something like humans

>Human sociopathy is at least partly hereditary
we literally could not eradicate sociopathy, which isnt a recognized medical condition mind you, even if we wanted

we literally dont see the depths of peoples behavior until they are basically adults, and well on their way to having children
human intelligence also means simply resorting to violence to select people who have no compassion would also result in selecting for people who are really good at simply hiding their compassion
because people can modulate their behaviour, theres no way to actually isolate a single behaviour with an instrument as blunt as killing people who exhibit certain traits

and we arent even getting into how absolutely complex behavior is modelled
they are not determined by a single gene or sequence, and they manifest directly as a result of the environment
so the gene, or set of genes, that control altruism (which doesnt exist in real life but lets assume for the argument) would still exist even if you killed every single person who exhibited altruism because the hypothethical gene that controls it would still be present in people who dont exhibit altruism, and so those traits will keep popping up in every subsequent generation no matter how hard you root them out
>>
>>153333638
It meant that it, yet again, ripped off Dragon Ball.
>>
File: 1746790103384257.gif (358 KB, 220x220)
358 KB GIF
>>153333983
a tale as old as time
>>
>>153333638
Test
>>
>>153333638
Go home and be a family man.
>>
>>153333638
Stable foundations are more important than expediency
>>
>>153335323
Vegeta saying that he loves Bulma's attitude and that saiyans love strong women was great.
>>
>>153333638
IT WAS WRITTEN IN VILTRUMES COMPUTERS TO AVOID CULTURE, FOR IT IS SAID ANY VILTRUMITE WHO COMES INTO CONTACT WITH IT LOSES THE WILL TO FIGHT
>>
>>153333638
This is so fucking stupid, and I'm kinda here for it. Season 5 and the reactions to it are going to be an absolute clownshow.
>>
As if you losers wouldn't also immediately fold to someone who showed you some genuine love and affection.
>>
>>153335598
https://youtu.be/t0wZENNZ740?si=ocoRQhMikyYGxbYR&t=60
>>
File: chu.jpg (44 KB, 825x464)
44 KB JPG
>>153335323
>be genocidal monster
>spend less than five minutes with sassy Earth woman
>fall in love forever

>>153335613
Kirkman really is just an anime fan in denial, huh?
>>
>>153335630
jokes on you I rejected that person and am still alone years later
>>
>>153335677
He spent a little more than 5 minutes
and it helps that bulma and her family were there for him in the lowest moment of his life (at that point) where everything he had ever worked for and thought himself as was brutally humiliated out of him
>>
>>153335677
to all viltrumites who hear lynn minmays song, you have but one enemy, general thragg
>>
>>153333638
Pussy softens you
>>
File: 1620436491215.png (808 KB, 800x507)
808 KB PNG
>>
>>153335677
Vegeta falling for Bulma I can buy but Bulma straight up sassed him up after Namek like he didn't scare the shit out of her before.
>>
>>153335544
Nice try, kid, come back in 500 years.
>>
>>153335811
thats how long it will take before you are ready to face shen long
>>
>>153335811
>>
>>153333692
Why didn't he breed with humans?
>>
shows we just need love but we won't get it
>>
>>153333719
Yes but the normal response is to double down on being a miserable prick, not to reconsider your life choices.
>>
>>153335919
He was engineered with a tiny penis so he would be too embarrassed to try and outbreed true viltramites
>>
>>153335500
I’ve seen this word around a lot lately and why? Why are you people doing this? I’m curious. Why “Test” is the word you people love to use?
>>
>>153336148
He probably means testosterone. As to why, though, I'm no fagwhisperer.
>>
>>153336193
But that makes no sense. I’ve seen this reply every in various contexts that seemingly have nothing in common except for the lone word “Test.” How strange. I wonder if it’s apart of an intelligence agency’s operation. It wouldn’t be the first time for 4chan.
>>
>>153336218
Yes, I'm sure you're right, it's Mossad. There's no other explanation.
>>
So you're telling me, fucking Lucan refuses to fucking die?
>>
>>153333692
Thragg could just clone the dead Viltrumites
>>
>>153336148
They're testing to see if they can post for example after a ban
>>
File: 1776847729993881.png (268 KB, 856x479)
268 KB PNG
>is on Earth for about a month
>already building the harem
Kregg immediately became a love junkie. Clearly he had the touch starvation worst than most, damn.
>>
>>153336501
he also has a sick eyepatch, implying he is a tough bad boy, which chick digs
but he is lean and not built like a tank, which chicks also dig
and he does genuinely love all of his harem mates, to the point he is willing to go against thragg for them, and chicks dig that the most
>>
Thragg was chill as fuck all things considered. I was so mad when that Scourge Virus shit happened and we all had to be enemies again.
>>
>>153335669
>you can't redeem hitler
>because the JEEEEEEWS
>think of the six gorillion
>>
File: sb3n5ab1epwg1.jpg (79 KB, 1792x828)
79 KB JPG
Folded instantly. Fucking wheeze.
>>
>>153336501
My nigga
>>
>>153336670
this is the true power of protoculture
>>
>>153333638
The Vilturms are fucking dumb, anyone with a brain would notice their philosophy makes no sense. Not even IRL Nazis were that dumb.
>>
>>153336707
>The Vilturms are fucking dumb
and that is literally the plot point of the show
their dumb-ass might makes right mindset is exactly the reason why they have no friends, their sleeper agents turn on them the moment they leave the surveillance of the cult, and why they already halved their own population before the coalition of planets decided to finish the job

their philosophy is literally dumb in-universe and they are too deep in the kool aid to question it while their superhuman abilities meant they didnt have to face consequences for their dumbness until they were at the intergalactic empire stage
>>
>>153336707
I dunno. IRL Nazis were very dumb. Hugo Boss did a real glow-up on a bunch of meth head lunatics.
>>
>>153336692
You joke, but this really is just Macross now. Watch, we're gonna get a scene where the viltrumites got to a pop idol concert and the mere concept of music rewires their brains.
>>
>>153336707
Well yeah, but anyone who says that is going to get their skull crushed by Thragg. That's the point: They live in a society where if you deviate from the mission at all, you will be murdered.
>>
>>153334216
kek
>>
>>153333638
>>153333719
>advanced civilization
>tech beyond human imagination
>still falls into the mist retarded aspects of their reptilian complex
>instead of genetically modified your species to get rip off them
This is why scifi / high-fantasy are shit.
>>
>>153336831
Do we have any reason to think they aren't the way they are because they gene spliced themselves millions of years ago?
>>
>>153336831
What exactly would the emotions update look like? Dulling or removing some/all of them?
>>
>>153336831
>genetically modified your species to get rip off them
That's just the old doc who cybermen. Why would you want to get rip off the mist reptilian aspects your emotions? They're why you're alive, ditch them and you might as well peace out.
>>
>>153333638
Kregg becoming a chain smoking motorcycle bad boy gooner is one of the last few good moments of later Invincible
>>
>>153335677
I'm fully convinced that Invincible rips off DBZ just as much as it does DC and Marvel
>>
>>153333638
I NEED them to include Anissa hatefucking someone in amazon position.
>>
>>153336831
Am I supposed to know or care who this retard is?

>>153336846
>>153336869
I will never understand "people" who think emotions are inherently bad. Like you say, if you don't feel anything, might as well just kill yourself, since there's no point.
>>
File: 1468203352042s.jpg (3 KB, 123x125)
3 KB JPG
>>153336885
>I NEED them to include Anissa hatefucking someone in amazon position.
>>
>>153333692
Thragg did a lot of things wrong. He could have killed Mark and Nolan and everyone who opposed him at any point in the series up until he actually couldn't by the end
>>
>>153336884
Viltrumites are literally just "what if Kryptonians acted like Saiyans?"
>>
File: ULTRA CHAD.jpg (52 KB, 1080x753)
52 KB JPG
>>153333638
>Negative General, my adopted slave mate gets sad if I fuck other women, Sir. If she's sad I'm sad, Sir!
>>
File: R.jpg (331 KB, 1280x720)
331 KB JPG
More stories need to have their conflicts resolved with massive orgies.
>>
>>153336884
It does, Kirkman is a bold face liar if he's still claiming he had no clue what DBZ was before Invincible.
>>
>>153333638
Why didn't Thragg also find a human mate so he could empathize with what his people are going through?
>>
Human pussy is that good
>>
>>153333692
FPBP
>>
File: 0.jpg (498 KB, 1041x1600)
498 KB JPG
Did you wish the show had actually used the "we will interbreed" line?
>>
>>153337136
I actually find it funny because Anissa was mad as fuck being flirted at in the comic, but here she seems to enjoy the attention

Wouldn't be surprised if she sluts it up for a bit until thinking that the only one worthy to impregnate her is Mark. Prime hentai scenario, just have her tasting a different boy toy every weekend.
>>
>>153337136
Wish they hadn't removed Nolan from that exchange.
>>
File: 0.gif (3.55 MB, 520x293)
3.55 MB GIF
>>153337152
>but here she seems to enjoy the attention
That's not what it looked to me. She seemed less angry about it, but still very annoyed and disgusted.
>>
>Mark doesn't even say "You should have told me", he straight up APOLOGIZES
What a fucking bitch holy shit
>>
File: Spoiler Image (1.18 MB, 1752x1545)
1.18 MB
1.18 MB JPG
They're sticking with 37 survivors! Even though way more Viltrumites got killed in the show than in the comic! I guess ther were more than 50 and 50 was just a rough estimate now. Or maybe a few hybrids since they specified pure blooded Viltrumites?

Well either way, we know Kregg's splitting them in half now at least!
>>
>>153336946
It sucks that there is really no true stakes or drastic interesting plotlines taken the show. Just look at that Viltrum battle fight. The Viltrumite fighters kept getting taken apart during the battle but the Coalition guys are more or less okay after the battle, with the exception of Thadeus. If I had my way I would have permanently killed off some characters on the Coalition side and that would have been Nolan, Tech Jacket and Space Racer. Thadeus also stays dead as well andI don't give a shit if Zoe is a new character to be taken out so early. Kirkman should have introduced her way earlier during the show but of course he doesn't give a fuck about side characters at all.
>>
>>153337254
>Even though way more Viltrumites got killed in the show than in the comic!
Maybe we just saw more death, or maybe the show started with an higher count. I wouldn't consider this a plot hole when there as such easy explanations.
>>
>>153337136
such a great plot point that was never really followed with any arc or a mini
>>
>>153337336
The show has actually followed a few plot points left out by the comic. Maybe it will do that for the Viltrumite on earth too.
>>
>>153337336
isnt the entire point of OPs pic that the families they started on earth causing them to question the viltrumite way?
>>
>>153335677
It took years for bejita to care about bulma and trunks though the viltrumites pretty much caved the second they got laid. Bejita even let Dr.Gero shoot down yajirobe's plane with bulma and baby trunks in it and didn't blink an eye. It wasn't till after buu was defeated that he decided to soften up around them.
>>
File: HGf03LzWEAAWQjT.jpg (94 KB, 1080x1468)
94 KB JPG
This nigga just living his best life now
>>
>>153337412
>though the viltrumites pretty much caved the second they got laid.
that is pretty much the zentradi, though
being raised as warriors who can only think of battle meant that the spies they sent to live among the miclones went native after basically a week of listening to human music and eating human food
the rest of the zentradi didnt even need to see the miclones once the spies returned with contraband from the macross, they just knew that destroying culture would mean never seeing any more of minmay
>>
>>153336501
He is kinda of the living enbodiment of the bad guy that makes women say "I can fix him"
And they somehow actually fixed him
>>
meanwhile Twitter troons are losing it over Debbie leaving Paul and getting back with Nolan. Glad they are outing themselves as the tourists they are
>>
>>153337485
she didn't even get back with nolan yet. they are still doing the apology cuck thing with him and he didn't even let himself touch her shoulder. Paul was actually the one who convinced her to go see oliver.
>>
>>
>>153336501
Motherfucker clocked out for the first time in his life and is NEVER going back.
>>
File: 1776856868742667m(1).jpg (74 KB, 205x735)
74 KB JPG
>>153337136
>show lucan found someone who's into dad bods
>>
Love conquers all.
>>
Why Mark doesn't care about Cecil lying about Conquest now?
>>
File: 1770414062713520.jpg (171 KB, 2048x1152)
171 KB JPG
>Anissa chose you as a candidate for the mission
What do?
>>
>>153336946
It really is inexcusable just how much Thragg lets slide out of plot induced stupidity just so Mark and friends live.
>>
>>153337567
probably find a way to leave the state quietly because as much as I post about snu snu and sex with anissa, I myself, genuinely do not want to die, let alone suffer a death as painful as hydraulic press crazy alien woman
>>
File: 1756753144283742.jpg (246 KB, 1725x2048)
246 KB JPG
>>
>>153337576
And they do so in turn with Nolan sparing his life despite it being a retarded idea and leading directly to so many deaths.

As if he didn't know about the bug planet that can rapidly pump out viltrumites.
>>
>>153337567
Serve willingly.
>>
>>153333719
Might makes right/survival of the fittest isnt an ideology, its the natural law of the universe, baked into it via the very laws of physics. Only weak pussies and women delude themselves into thinking otherwise.
>>
>>153337614
>Might makes right/survival of the fittest isnt an ideology
survival of the fittest is not survival of the strongest
weakness can be beneficial if it allows you to survive better
if a meteor hit the earth, humans would go extinct but ants and flies would survive
what is "strong" now is liable to change tomorrow

>Only weak pussies and women delude themselves into thinking otherwise.
we literally see conventional strength become a liability when the environment changes
being a lowly scavenger is suddenly better than being an apex predator when food becomes scarce and the ability to eat garbage becomes better than hunting ability when theres barely anything left to hunt

theres no way to accurately predict what will become "fit" in the future, what traits will or wont be desirable
so our best chance of survival is to hedge our bets and get as wide a selection of traits as possible, regardless of how immediately useful they are, because it increases the odds one of them might be useful when the environment changes
>>
>>153337614
so, how have these might makes right societies survived?
>>
>>153337560
Not true. "Love" is selective and situational. 50% of marriages end in divorce.

Women have an 80% divorce rate with men who make less money than them, and won't even consider men who are shorter than them.
>>
>>153337614
>baked into it via the very laws of physics
Trying too hard.
>>
>>153333719
>Might makes right is a fraudulent ideology
Why do you think you're typing in english instead of swahili? In global politics anarchy rules, aka the rule of the strongest. Superpowers get to dictate "international laws".
>>
>>153337668
Man I wish Darwin would have used some other term than "fitness". Legions of mouthbreathers have misunderstood evolution because of that one fucking word.
>>
>>153337593
I would seduce her where those two jocks failed
>>153337567
Handhold her into submission
>>
>>153337668
>survival of the fittest is not survival of the strongest

No shit.

>weakness can be beneficial if it allows you to survive better

Insects surving isnt due to their weakness, but their extreme adaptability/survivability due to hundreds of millions of years of darwinian survival pressures.

Might makes right is a tried and true law of power fir human societies. The strong conquer the weak, laws are enforced via durress, which requires the enforcement apparatus to have the means of overpowering the population (at least on an individual scale, but in most cases on a widespread to prevent revolt against the ruling class.
>>
>>153337668
>Theres no way to accurately predict what will become "fit" in the future, what traits will or wont be desirable
Yet the universal rule of life seems to be that bigger things eat smaller things all the way down to the bacterial level. Only reason cooperation is a good survival adaptation is because it makes the species bigger than the individual. Life itself is constant competition for resources, even when that cute rabbit in the wilderness doesn't directly eat other animals, it takes space from other herbivores who have to starve.
>>
>>153337710
Its true. Entropy exists, strong forces overpower weaker ones.

Sounds edgy but it's 100% true.
>>
>>153336670
>>153336501
Also got a motorcycle when he can causally fly faster than one. Man just wanted some cool shit.
>>
>>153337614
>baked into it via the very laws of physics
Why are you all so retarded about such basic stuff? I mean, I can guess more or less why, but I want to know why in your own opinion you are all so retarded?
>>
File: 1776861342985029.jpg (148 KB, 1903x1080)
148 KB JPG
How would Thragg react to Eve killing a Viltrumite tho
>>
so when is episode 8 gonna air?
>>
>>153337766
This. Naive, sheltered liberals need to understand this.

Women are pathologically self-deluding and will be capable of accepting this.
>>
>>153337614
I'm endlessly amused by the fact you keep trying to prove might makes right using logical arguments instead of might. Because you know might doesn't make right.
>>
>>153337801
why shouldn't the "sheltered libs" gang up on you and defeat your kind again?
>>
>>153337757
>No shit.
so might is not always right
other pathways to survival exist

>but their extreme adaptability/survivability due to hundreds of millions of years of darwinian survival pressures.
so might or strength is not the final word

>Might makes right is a tried and true law of power fir human societies
theres a reason modern society is not a thunderdome where the biggest person is not the leader
you have to basically move the goal post towards "well actually might is just a conceptual thing, like the mightiest in mathemathics" before you can claim society runs entirely on might making right
>>
>>153337679
if you aks for the childish idea, pretty good:
Sparta lasted centuries, far more than any anarcho commune shit. Shogunate too.
If you refer to a mature idea, EVERY POWERFUL CIVILIZATION follows the line:
Rome, the Khanates, Persia, Egypt, England, Germany, Spain, China, fucking USA, every one of them conquered and subyugated weaker societies, because might makes right, doesnt translate to "unga boonga dude with bigger stick wins" but to groups of power taking dominance over nature and other individuals.
>>
>>153337006
What anime is this?
>>
>>153337766
>Only reason cooperation is a good survival adaptation is because it makes the species bigger than the individual.
so you have to resort to "metaphorically mightier" in order to account for the fact that societies exist to ensure that the species as a whole can survive despite lacking might?
>>
>>153337589
>noooo le sex with super lady will kill me
not sure if faggot or just a drama queen, the actual risk is in supermanXnormal woman not superwoman on a normal man, unlike with a super powered lady, the guy basically has an unstoppable sword hes trying not to impale his normie girl with

meanwhile anissa is just riding you like a jackhammer, nothing to worry about unless youre assuming shes trying to kill you which wouldnt make sense anyway
>>
>>153337766
Absolutely incorrect. For instance the neanderthal humans, who were larger and stronger, were outcompeted by homo sapiens because we were smaller, thus required less calories, and we formed larger social groups. This idea that bigger = better is pure selection bias. Most large megafauna have been wiped out by humans, yes but even then evolution tends to favour mid size generalists. Bergmanns rule is more or less the only case where bigger is better

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergmann%27s_rule
>>
>>153337846
Your idea of might is so nebulous so as to be meaningless on top of you sounding like a chuuni faggot.
>>
>>153337830
Well if they can and do then they would still be proving me correct, because that would be might makes right.
>>
GRAND REGENT DEBBIE!
GRAND REGENT DEBBIE!
GRAND REGENT DEBBIE!
>>
>>153337873
>the guy basically has an unstoppable sword hes trying not to impale his normie girl with
One pussy clench and your dick is gone.
>>
>>153337830
Then who will do the shit they don't want to, I doubt they'd even be ableto gang up oh someone proper.
>>
>>153337064
Maybe he was afraid human pussy would change him too make him weak, maybe he was afraid that it can change him

Who knows but that's my head cannon at least
>>
>>153337816
LMAO. Because I cant/dont just reach threw my screen and punch you into submission that means might makes right doesnt exist.
>>
>>153337874
At a certain size it becomes a cost-benefit situation on whether the gains of the large size is worth the effort to maintain it.
>>
>>153337851
Ghastly Prince Enma Burning Up
>>
File: Hopper.png (1.6 MB, 1103x810)
1.6 MB PNG
>>153337857
>so you have to resort to "metaphorically mightier"
You brought societies. Within our societies, government has monopolized violence for itself through armies and police to keep streets safe. People did not get any more peaceful in the past 200 years, our governments simply forced us to be peaceful by a threat of force. So might makes right. Great example of might through cooperation in the wilderness are ants. Single ant is weak and helpless, thousands of ants are not, which is why ants are dominant species in the insect world. The only limitation for ants is the fact they fight other ants.
>>153337874
>For instance the neanderthal humans, who were larger and stronger, were outcompeted by homo sapiens because we formed LARGER social groups.
>This idea that bigger = better is pure selection bias
You just played yourself didn't you.
>>
>>153337846
>Sparta lasted centuries.
What's the capital of Greece again? Of all cities you picked Sparta the most disfunctional one who's army was mostly used to keep down slave Rebellions. Spain's empire was mostly detrimental rather than beneficial.Nazi Germany was such a short lived empire it was a meme, Persia only became stable when they adopted the Iranian identity etc. co-operation has helped all these countries far more than realpolitik. there are also other political philosophies besides realism
>>153337882
no, that would be a direct consequences of your aggressive go gather strategy.
>>153337892
they sure could in 1939
>>
>>153337874
and of course, they will retort by saying "well actually our super brains made us mightier" which leads us to having to expand the definition of might until it just means "really good at any survival strategy"

nevermind that our megabrains being able to create solutions pretty much requires us to be helpless babies when we are born
theres no telling which helpless baby will grow up to become an ultra warrior or a super scientist, our best chance at survival comes from treating all the helpless babies with care without knowing who they might be when they grow up
>>
>>153337874
something something the rise of the mesopredator
>>
>>153337873
>shattered pelvis from being passionately ridden by a being with super-strength and flight abilities
>total avulsion of penis due to involuntary contraction of ungodly powerful vaginal muscles
"I don't understand! I'm the one with the sword!"
>>
>>153337567
I'm still catching up to the comic be doesn't she marry some guy and mellow out later? I should be fine.
>>
>>153337064
I think it's shown/hinted that the man's got something in his brain that prevents that.
Maybe it's sociopathy, maybe it's the tism, either way he doesn't do empathy.

Even Anisa was more willing to hear Mark out when they first met. All Thragg's got is fight, kill rule, expand.
>>
>>153337931
>You brought societies.
so you need to bring up mightier in a metaphorical sense in order to continue making sense

>government has monopolized violence for itself through armies and police to keep streets safe.
and the armies, despite the most powerful branch of the government, do not do the actual ruling
when you get down to it, the government is composed entirely of 40-70 something year olds who have very little might to speak of
its almost like ruling a large society has very little to do with actual might

>o might makes right.
you basically have to expand might until its basically a nebulous vibe of pointing to any successful strategy and calling that "might"

>Single ant is weak and helpless, thousands of ants are not, which is why ants are dominant species in the insect world.
so essentially, might is not the only thing we need
>>
>>153337614
>Survival of the fittest is the law of the universe!
The fact that you are breathing and consuming resources proves that's completely wrong. It might be what you tell yourself to make sense of the struggles of life, but the law of the universe is to unite and work together or perish.

That's why humanity is the dominant species despite tons of stronger creatures existing that are way stronger than us. Because we're a social animal that cooperates and cohabitates. Though we often struggle for resources, these actions represent a vanishingly smaller and smaller percentage of humanity's output.

What might sound to you like cold hard reality is actually just edgelord sophistry.
>>
File: Chad Yes.jpg (54 KB, 718x1000)
54 KB JPG
>>153337901
>The fact that I can't reach through the screen and punch you into submission proves "Might Makes Right" doesn't exist.
>>
>>153337988
>Because we're a social animal that cooperates and cohabitates.
and then watch as he molds cooperation to be a form of "might" and dilutes his own idea
>>
>>153337694
Love dying just means new space for new love to bloom
>>
Vast majority of people agree might doesn't make right, and they outnumber the fags saying might makes right, which makes them mightier by sheer number, force and intellectual dominance. Therefore as the mightiest group, their ideology that might doesn't make right is right and you should all get with the program instead of seething in impotence like the little mightlets you are.
>>
>>153337985
Nta, but the mightiest thing is technically the many. A thousand people is stronger than one and they don't even need violence. Isolation as a threat can work, be it social or literal.

Might makes right because when an entire town says to do something, you don't have much of a choice to go against it
>>
>>153337901
It does, though. You have failed to be "right" (win the argument, manifest your desired result) because "might" in this case is not physical dominance. As it often is not.
>>
File: 1553477684932.png (96 KB, 366x196)
96 KB PNG
>>153338033
In other words:
>"Might Makes Right" niggas have no Might
>Still think they're right
>>
>>153337901
>can't/don't
which is it, hmm?
>>
>>153337136
Comic Anissa looks like she's about to rip these dudes' heads off, and the morons can't se murder not five feet in front of them.

>>153337223
They really did make Anissa WAY more chill in the show.
>>
>>153337985
>and the armies, despite the most powerful branch of the government, do not do the actual ruling

Youre right, the ruling class does, and they control the people in the army via brainwashing/consessions/threat of punishment for disobeying orders (for the average soldier) and punishment/purges for the higher leadership.

And let's not forget that military coups are, and have always been, one of the main ways that governments have been overthrown or replaced.
>>
>>153338066
He has to secret power to actually Tron through the screen and touch people through the internet, he just choses to be noble about it
>>
>>153337064
He fucked his way through ten thousand bug people without feeling a thing he's immune to that sort of shit and thought the rest of the viltrumites were like him.
>>
>>153338033
Might makes right isn't an opinion on how things should be but a statement on how thing already are.
>>
>>153338049
If your opinion is in the minority then you should fall in line like the little weakling you are. Glad we agree that might doesn't make right.
>buh buh it does tho!
Then quit using logic instead of might to prove your point and start whacking some niggers until they fall under your stick. Otherwise quit being a little bitch.
>>
File: Spoiler Image (109 KB, 960x524)
109 KB
109 KB JPG
>>153337873
>an aggressive chick with insane super strength on top of you is never a problem
Anon sit back and really consider what that means, genuinely consider what being fucked hard by a herculean lady entails, its not enjoyable, actual tons of pressure from flesh and bone too dense and muscley to barely feel the softness repeatedly slamming into your pelvis and midsection, feeling your shoulders numb and deform under the crushing hands pressing you down, even against a bed, the pain, physical trauma and damage of your midsection getting squished between her ridiculously strong thighs, every slam from her crotch, to her ass forcing burning stomach acid and vomit up your throat, causing you to choke, followed by your tongue swelling out from all your organs getting pushed up like an almost empty tube of toothpaste, your legs getting bent and snapped at the knees, and we haven't even scratched the absolute state of your destroyed cock and balls, nuts are gone, and if your schlong slipped out during one of the mountain mama's many ascents before the slam, it's over, snapped twig, like a glowstick, any tiny semblance of pleasure is snuffed out.
Anon, being fucked by anissa isn't nice, just say you want to fuck a thraxan or hell, any other female character who DOESN'T have verifiable evidence proving she both hates humans and loves raping and violently straddling men
acting like she'd care enough to hold back on a typical anon is ignorance
>>
>>153338049
>but the mightiest thing is technically the many
we get back to the original point that we have to move the goal posts of might for might to make right
this isnt really a useful heuristic anymore

its no longer might that makes right, but collective societal decisions that make right
we exit the realm of might making right and instead the realm of the social contract
>>
>37! There's 37 Viltrumites fucking everything in sight!!!
>>
File: 187626378618.jpg (49 KB, 735x489)
49 KB JPG
>>153337064
Thragg's autism about his rule runs deep. His offspring would be in line as the defacto leader and replacement for him. It would not surprise me in the slightest if the reason was as simple as protecting his power. It's only when he's pushed to the absolute limit and stripped of his rule that he breeds an army of lesser bug Vilrumites who cannot threaten his position as leader.
>>
>>153338089
>Might makes right isn't an opinion
Yeah it is.
>bu--
Cope, bitch boy. You're clearly not mighty enough to prove it.
>>
>>153337893
>Damn I better stay away from human pussy
>all my soldiers keep defecting over it
>>
>>153338071
>the ruling class does,
again, you just keep missing the point that you are now just arguing for a vague, conceptual form of might now

political science already discusses how and why people rule and they pointedly do not call any of it might, because you have to dilute might until its divorced from any colloquial understanding of the word
>>
>>153338026
Pure cope/self delusion. You also ignored the female selectiveness against shorter/poorer men. All "love" is situational and based on how "fit" the mate is.
>>
File: 1775684897592911.jpg (75 KB, 1079x768)
75 KB JPG
Thragg would absolutely be on the internet arguing his retarded meathead nonsense and doing mental gymnastics if he was born a human.
>>
>>153338113
Might make right junk just makes you look like you have a small dick and people will make fun of you behind your back. And to your face. Which you will do nothing about. Because it's illegal to hit people.
>>
File: 1767477735600337.jpg (30 KB, 736x675)
30 KB JPG
>>153338099
is he ok
>>
>>153338094
You just agreed might makes right.
Ten vs one is might makes right whether the 1 wins or the 10. An army that wins agaisnt another army is might makes rights..
The fact that you don't understand is you being a bitch and not thinking you're subject to threats
You'd fucking cower if Requis told you to bend over and start liking it and still not understand why no one's helping you
>>
>>153337988
even this "dominant species" stuff is human egoism. humans are certainly unique in their works, we're not doing better in terms of "fitness" than the bacteria that have been here for billions of years before us and will be for billions. and if we're judging based on our works then i guess the pen literally is mightier
>>
>>153338102
Social is still might, an army is might, a pack of wolves is might.
>>
>>153338113
Should clarify not JUST an opinion.
>You're clearly not mighty enough to prove it.
That's already how the world works.
>>153338144
Now that's what happens when people like you try to act tough.
>>
>>153338089
Homie just give up, you're tying yourself into a pretzel now.
>"Might makes right!"
>"and I'm right even though I don't have might!"

If you're right, you're wrong. If you're wrong, you're wrong. In trying to extol the value of pure might, you've created an ironic self-sabotaging paradox.
>>
give me the link to the episode download so i can make screencap edits
>>
>>153338199
100% might make right people are andrew tates and the 350 pound gorillas that worship him. Anyways, I could rape you and you'd enjoy it.
>>
>>153338171
so basically, might makes right as long as you can keep changing the meaning of right to suit your needs
society being able to agree on something therefore it is is not considered might making right, its now firmly outside the realm of biology and into the world of social science and political science where might no longer has the same meaning and is in fact substituted with other words like power instead because its dealing with subjects that are firmly outside anything resembling physical strength
>>
This is a non issue, Anissa fucked Scott and he didn't die, she can control her strength, you are fine anon go for it, fuck her silly, save the viltrumite race
>>
>>153338136
Is that why you have no mate? None are fit enough for you? Fitness is all that's on your mind when you look at a girl, right? Doesn't sound like you actually like girls that much... you sure you're into them?
>>
>>153338106
In a row?

>>153338142
How do you know he isn't actually doing that? The show might go ahead and do that for both thematic and comedic purposes. Better than have him sit around doing literally nothing for like 2 seasons.
>>
>>153338135
>again, you just keep missing the point that you are now just arguing for a vague, conceptual form of might now

Nigga, do you have any actual experience in the real world?
>>
>>153338151
If you aren't willing to go out into your local town and beat them up until they crown you Biggest Grug then by your own philosophy you have to agree might doesn't make right, because the town is mightier than you and they say might doesn't make right.
>>
>>153338211
It's as simple as knowing that "water is wet" even if you personally disagree with that fact.
>>
"You do not have a choice. And yet, you must still make one."
Thragg's lines are so ice cold.
>>
>>153338151
>An army that wins agaisnt another army is might makes rights
>any time there is a right, it must have been done by might!
well, if you're going to be tautological, it's meaningless

if the viltrumites cave to human desire purely to access pussy, then pussy was might i guess
>>
>>153338224
Nta but men don't select as hard as women because its not their role
They are breeders and protectors, meaning they have low standards and easily fall in love

Women are selective, they choose who gets to breed, and if they see their partner as weak they will immediately stop feeling for them and change partner.
They do feel love, but their love dies out very, very easily.
>>
>>153338220
No it's just people who use their eyes and ears.
>>
File: retard.png (144 KB, 1195x575)
144 KB PNG
>>153337985
>so you need to bring up mightier in a metaphorical sense in order to continue making sense
Numbers are a show of might as much as strength. A pack of tiny cute wild dogs in Africa can bring down and kill a single adult lion. Collectively the wild dogs have more mass than the lion.
>and the armies, despite the most powerful branch of the government, do not do the actual ruling
They did for the longest time and if peace-time society ever gets seriously disrupted, they still do. Whether its a major catastrophe, famine, mass civil unrest or foreign invader, army comes to the rescue.
>when you get down to it, the government is composed entirely of 40-70 something year olds who have very little might to speak of
They're people's representatives, their might comes from the people who voted for them collectively. Their power is directly proportional to the amount of people in the society that work on the same rules. Its a might by numbers.
>you basically have to expand might
No I don't. Might doesn't exclude power by numbers. You simply lack basic understanding of words.
>>
>>153338260
you are basically just moving the goal posts of might to encompass broader and broader things so you can still appear to be right, even though you are now basically advocating for "very good survival strategies that include things outside physical strength makes right"
>>
File: 1448713056966.jpg (29 KB, 570x533)
29 KB JPG
>>153338272
So by your logic, the universe says you're wrong.
>>
>>153338260
Do you? You solve your daily disputes through physical force?
>>
>>153338272
Pretty sure if Gigachad beat the shit out of you and made you declare that water is dry it would still be wet. Truth doesn't care how mighty you are.
>>
>>153338283
This ideology conflicts with the pure might makes right I'm being sold. Women can be selective because they are mighty? Their lack of capacity to truly love is might? Maybe they're just turned off by this bullshit attitude of yours.
>>
>>153337935
Ancient Greece didnt have a capital you midwit. Also "might makes right" doesnt erase cooperation. In fact, cooperation is what makes a society stronger than other.
If i and my dudes assault a bank, we are cooperating, in detriment of others, but cooperation at the end.
>>153337985
>>153337941
>>153337879
In we take Plato´s work, the sentence "Justice is nothing else than the interest of the stronger" can resume the philosophy.
Lets see history
>Roman empire was built on the ambitions of roman generals, the Emperor wasnt choosed by morals, it was just the prefered loser that the generals wanted. The Senate was formed by patricians, rich and powerful individuals and the only way to climb the ladder, was participating in state mandated violence. Over the course of its existence, erased and reformed many laws and philosophies, including the greek one, to its own interests and culture. Why? because they had the best army, nothing else.
>USA is the most powerful nation right now, to get to this, its budget is concentrated in the army. ITs petrodollar isnt backed by gold, nor trust, not even oil, but over its military power, the moment a nation wants to discard its use, the moment "freedom" will come. Its justice system protects the rich and powerful elites that not only are psycopath rats, but pedos and satanics cultitsts. The UN, the organization that should be acting as an unbiased judge between nations to keep peace, instead is emasculated by US and the winners of the WWII, thanks to "veto power", a mechanism that ensures that the mighties nations can ensure international justice on its side. Thanks to that, Israel will never face any trials for shit that other countries are punished and sanctioned.
>>
>>153338224
I have a wife. Mate selectivity is real and denying it makes me think you have never had a wife/girlfriend/husband whatever.

Anyone with eyesvand a brain knows that attractive/fit people date other attractive/fit, mid people date other mid people, and uglies/fatties date other uglies/fatties.

Women only date men taller than them and make more money, and men want women who are more on the submissive side. Its how life works. "True love" is a meme.
>>
>>153338317
Water isn't wet though. Water makes things wet. Water itself isn't wet
>>
>>153337589
>>153338099
Ok then just don't go cowgirl style.
Doggy style the super bitch.
Problem solved.
>>
>>153338286
But notably, not brains. Just parroting bullshit.
>>
>>153338350
Not according to Gigachad.
>>
>>153333638
There is no fucking way this aliens get into the madhouse that is humanity and come as better people.
>>
>>153338338
Oh I'm not the might makes right guy, might makes right is contraddictory, for starters by arguing in favor of it you are already renouncing it since you are implicitly agreeing that logic makes right

Might is simply a tool to get your way. It doesn't make your way "right"
>>
>>153333692
I thought you burned up in the sun thragg
>>
>>153338308
No it says i'm right.
>>153338317
Yes and the truth is that might makes right so if Gigachad didn't beleave that and made me say the opposite it would would still be true.
>>
Why couldn’t the males of our species become a cuck race like the thraxans? Imagine what it was like watching a powerful being such as Thragg fucking every woman you have ever known your entire life. MARK AND NOLAN STOLE THIS PRIVILEGE FROM US
>>
>>153338292
>Numbers are a show of might as much as strength.
so again, if might includes a much broader definiton

>They did for the longest time
militaries are usually bad for actually ruling, which is why civilian governments pop up to actually do the ruling and generally produce better results

>They're people's representatives, their might comes from the people who voted for them collectively.
so back to arguing for a nebulous all-encompassing definition of might

>You simply lack basic understanding of words
you are the one who has to move the goal posts to square away "might makes right is true actually" while living in a society where our lives are exceedingly comfortable and safe due largely to the advances of people who would not be considered very mighty at all if not for the fact they were really good at math and science
>>
>>153338356
That would be you.
>>
>>153338311
No, because then the cops would come and use force to arrest me. I would also lose my job because my boss wants people who work without causing disruption.

You have such a child's view of the world.
>>
>>153338379
>Yes and the truth is that might makes right so if Gigachad didn't beleave that and made me say the opposite it would would still be true.
If gigachad beats you up and makes you declare that might doesn't make right, then might doesn't make right, simple as. You declaring that it proves might makes right means that might does not in fact make right, because Gigachad's might can't overturn the fact that might makes right. Otherwise he could use his might to say might does not in fact make right.
>>
>>153338349
I feel bad for your wife. And for you, but to a much lesser degree. There are too many exceptions to your iron-clad rules of mate selectivity to count, use your eyes a little more.
>>
File: 1495255235711.png (491 KB, 544x535)
491 KB PNG
>>153333638
Why are there so many delusional retards ITT denying survival of the fittest is real?

Is gen Z really this retarded and liberal?
>>
A lot of confusion here

Yes, cops use might as a tool to end disputes. Might is not a tool that can determine truth however
Might makes right only in terms of practical disputes, it doesn't make right in the sense of truth, correctness, morality, or anything else beyond low level conflict resolution

Its used not because it is good but because it is convenient
>>
>>153338399
>N-no u!
I am quaking at your might
>>
>>153338406
>, because then the cops would come and use force to arrest me
even without the immediate threat of cops, you wouldnt punch random people for annoying you because we all basically dont want to be known as the punch guy
no coercion is needed, just the social contract of not being a jackass so people arent one to you

>I would also lose my job because my boss wants people who work without causing disruption.
hence why actual sociologists dont use the word might when discussing these things, they use other words like power because we are dealing with concepts so far removed from biology that might is no longer a good descriptor
>>
>>153338281
Ask any woman and they'd probably say yes
>>
>>153338406
>no, because diplomacy is a required skill to function in society
so is diplomacy "might"?
>>
File: staying up too late.png (78 KB, 398x685)
78 KB PNG
Two people need to escape a room, and they have to cooperate or they won't be able to leave.

Do you:
>Try to beat the other guy until he agrees to help you, risking death or injury, or possibly killing or injuring him and making him unable to help, or piss him off enough that he could get you into a vulnerable position while you're in the process of escaping to turn the tables on you for what you did
or:
>Ask the guy politely to help you leave, and leave together with him.

?
>>
>>153338436
Did you actually read the entire thread? Define "fitness" for these poor liberal zoomers
>>
File: 1390672885891.jpg (417 KB, 2500x2500)
417 KB JPG
>>153338436
>Why are you alldenying survival of the fittest is real?
Because you're alive.
>>
>>153338461
I didn't ask a woman, I asked you. And you don'y value women's opinions. So what do you think?
>>
>>153338440
>Might is not a tool that can determine truth however

Not the argument, retard. It's not about determining the "truth". You really dont even know what "might makes right" means, do you lol?
>>
>>153338436
Survival of the fittest is a literal conrnerstone for the theory of evolution. The individuals who can produce the most offspring and make sure those offspring reproduce as well are the most fit. What "is" fit is context dependent on external variables.
>>
>>153338364
i like Invincible, because it tries to be "mature and edgy", but at the end, its just your classical childish superhero story, only with red sauce.
>>153338473
"might makes rights" doesnt erase the notion of cooperation. If we are three in a dessert island, anad in order to survive we need to resort to cannibalism, i can cooperate with one of them to eat the other. We are the stronger, and the justice is our interest
>>
>>153338501
I literally stated what might makes right is, retard
>Not the argument
A guy is literally arguing water stops being wet if gigachad claims so, so yes, some anons are arguing precisely that
>>
>>153338423
>If gigachad beats you up and makes you declare that might doesn't make right, then might doesn't make right, simple as.
Yes it does.
>You declaring that it proves might makes right means that might does not in fact make right, because Gigachad's might can't overturn the fact that might makes right.
It's irrelevant wheter he overturn fact's or not, the only thing that matter is that he can enforce his will on others. That in in and of itsel is what "might makes right" is all about.
>>
>>153338494
Being alive doesn't negate survival of the fittest, unless your definition of that term is ridiculously narrow.
>>
>>153338510
Right, and then a species called "humans" showed up and started taking care of their old, sick and diseased that "survival of the fittest" would have naturally killed, and then they became the dominant species of earth.

This shit isn't hard to figure out. If a bunch of monkeys are in a cage, they'll survive a lot longer and live better lives if they get along and work together than if they try to beat the shit out of each other constantly.
>>
>>153338494
his father was the strongest rapist in town, so stronger that the justice system couldnt get him. MIght makes right.
>>
>>153338442
You probably get that response a lot because you often accuse other of doing what you're guilty of.
>>
>>153333692
Empathy is cringe
>>
>>153338389
>militaries are usually bad for actually ruling, which is why civilian governments pop up to actually do the ruling and generally produce better results
Rome lasted for close to 1000 years and they were a military government with nominal civilian branch. Feudalism also operates on the principle of martial lords and knights governing peasants.
>>153338389
>while living in a society where our lives are exceedingly comfortable and safe due largely to the advances of people who would not be considered very mighty at all
I just explained to you that the comfort and safety is an illusion brought by the government. Go ahead and try to punch someone in public and see what happens. The police will take you to custody with force. In other words they use their might to make sure only they have the right to hurt anybody.
>>
Viltrumite's morality is simple. It's a moral dillema.

The Viltrumite who fights because he has nothing to lose versus the Viltrumite that has something to lose. Both sides are extremely dangerous.
>>
>>153338555
again, "might makes rights" , doesnt erase the notion of cooperation. Lets take monkeys, chimps and baboons. Those fuckers define their hierarchy based on strenght, not only of the individual but the group. The stronger group will lead the rest and have benefits over the food aand reproduction, that doesnt mean than they will go full psycho and kill every weaker monkey, because those weakers monkeys will serve them and ultimately, help them if another group wants to take power by force.
>>
>>153338551
Yeah, it does. You're weak and pathetic, so by your logic you shouldn't even be alive. Your literal existence disproves your argument.

The fact that people as stupid and weak as you can exist and live decently even after thousands of years of evolution proves that actually cooperating with people, loving them and showing them mercy is the most successful survival strategy.

The fact that you think you have any ground to stand on after your shitty ideology has been buttfucked by this many directions isn't a sign of intelligence. It's a sign of confirmation bias. "Everything proves me right be
>>
File: 167612873681.jpg (66 KB, 720x960)
66 KB JPG
A strong slave is still only a slave. Break your back building me a new mansion, peon.
>>
>>153338555
Well taking care of our weak to create a prosperous society kinda falls withing the confines of "make sure your offspring can breed too". When you improve the group, you improve the chances for yourself and your kids.

Speaking of the whole "make sure your children can breed too" angle of evolutionary fitness. Many anons here view themselves as evolutionary failures because they are permavirgins who will never reproduce. But actually according to the definition if fitness, it was also the failure of your parents for improperly raising you to become a permavirgin.
>>
>>153333638
They explain this in the comic. Viltrumites live thousands of years and spend most of it travelling in space alone, plus they don't give a fuck about if any of them live or die. They live extremely isolated and non-communal.

Earthlings are very empathic and communal instead, which was totally unheard of for viltrumites.
>>
File: IMG_2210.jpg (93 KB, 1080x1192)
93 KB JPG
Is that Red Rush’s wife? Holy fuck man.
>>
>>153338622
>You're weak and pathetic

LMAO you're so mad bro. Sorry you cant face reality. xD
>>
>>153334043
>>153334064
>>153334079
comic also explains this, they are genetically predisposed towards being VERY quick to anger. Plus they are so strong that no one could really stop them from lashing out in anger either.
>>
File: we will interbreed.jpg (34 KB, 198x300)
34 KB JPG
>>153337136
>>
>>153338619
>>153338634
Nigga you're talking in circles. Your entire ideology got blown the fuck out using your own logic and you're just repeating the same shit over and over and hoping people don't recognize it.

Just because you can't get laid doesn't mean Chad is the source of all your problems, shrimp dick ass nigga.

>>153338660
Translation: "I get no pussy ;_;"
>>
>>153338597
>Feudalism also operates on the principle of martial lords and knights governing peasants.
feudalism operates on a complex web of societal obligations between each lord, and each lord to his subjects
the knights were far mightier than their lord in every conventional sense of the word, and yet the lord commands them rather than the other way around

>. Go ahead and try to punch someone in public and see what happens
what actually stops people 99% of the time is not the threat of violence from the cops but the societal contract we have with everyone else in the street, regardless of how individually strong or weak they are, that punching people is bad
we all agreed on this concept as a group, and whether its right or not does not really depend on any individual

we have exited the realm of might making right and into the social contract
social contracts exist because we all agreed on certain things as a society and we all follow the social contract because society as a whole is more powerful than any single person
this is, rather explicitly, different from simple might makes right and you have to rely on a gotcha like "well ackshully society is might now" like might has any real connection to its colloqual definition at this point
>>
>>153337491
Paul lost
>>
Stop replying to the tard. Here, let me sum up his entire argument for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TVTm5xfvjk

There. Now, ignore the bait and continue talking about Viltrumite sex.
>>
>>153338700
You are replying to two people that you think are the same person.
>>
>>153338648
Huh. She does kinda look like Olga. Either that's an oopsie on the animation team, or they're adding some new drama to this plot.
>>
>>153337694
>50% of marriages end in divorce.
Yeah, because the ex wife is then forced to be paid an alimony or child support far in excess of what she'd normally earn.

iirc there was a recent new law in Texas of all places where divorce automatically meant no money (or something like that), and divorce rates dropped dramatically immediately afterwards.
>>
File: cc.jpg (172 KB, 702x826)
172 KB JPG
>>153338625
*an individual slave its weak before the might of white dude and his gun. A group of strong slaves are weaker than the slaver system composed of more white buck breakers with bigger guns, and even some black dudes.
>>
>>153338648
Will kregg do something cool in the future?? I kinda like his character but he gets jobbered everytime we see him in action and he ACTS like he's hot shit but he ain't! He's all aura but no sauce
>>
>>153338722
>Continue talking about viltrumite sex

Right here big dawg >>153338213
>>
>>153338726
>>153338648
They probably just reused a model they already had for a new character. Same as how Ty Lee had Aangs face.
>>
>>153338743
I no longer want to talk about Viltrumite sex ):

>>153338723
>t. samefag
>>
>>153338573
>>153338399
>>
>>153338700
resorting to ad hominens huh? We accept your concession
>>
>>153338704
>feudalism operates on a complex web of societal obligations between each lord, and each lord to his subjects
And the mightiest lord governs them all.
>the knights were far mightier than their lord
The lord commanded bigger resources than a single knight ever could, hence why the lord is the mightier one. A knight can muster a sorry band from his local subjects, a lord can rally an entire region to fight for him.
>what actually stops people 99% of the time is not the threat of violence from the cops but the societal contract we have with everyone else in the street
Complete bullshit. Punches in public happen all the time. In countries where government is too weak to collect taxes and to maintain infastructure, people still burn each other as witches and warlords thrive in the jungles. The moment the government monopoly on violence evaporates, people will be openly violent in public again. Eventually a new group will monopolize violence and force everyone else to behave.

If you disagree, please mention one society, just one where nobody has ever thrown a single punch or committed any act of violence against one another.
>>
>>153338740
> he gets jobbered everytime we see him in action
The two people we see him fight are Thaedus and Battle Beast. Idk why he has a reputation as a jobber
>>
>>153333638
The old Sayan conundrum. If evil so much fun, why fall for humuie pussy?
>>
>wednesdays are just wednesdays now
Time to wait a whole year for season 5
>>
>>153337136
Just so you know. Thragg's plan does come to fruition, just not with him as emperor. Earth becomes a breeding ground for superior Viltrumites, and the empire is reborn stronger than ever.
>>
>>153338773
>99% of the time
>nobody has ever thrown a single punch
woah there go the goalposts

is the only reason you don't beat your wife because you fear reprisal by the government?
>>
>>153338773
>And the mightiest lord governs them all.
the king controlled his lords through societal obligations
its the social contract, not pure force

>The lord commanded bigger resources than a single knight ever could
we are once again having to discuss metaphorical might
a single knight could walk to a lord and kill him because he is well armed and armored and, despite what you may imagine, your average lord is not under 24/7 guard
but the reason the knight does not is because he is compelled to uphold his social contract with the lord, its a deal

>Complete bullshit
random violence does not spontaneously occur because people just dont want to be known as the punch guy, and that happens with or without cops
>>
>>153338704
The feudal lord was the leader, because the strongest group of knights and nobles decided that it was more benefical for them. If another group, more powerful, formed and decided that the king wasnt good enough for them, they started a rebellion or civil war.
>society as a whole is more powerful than any single person
yes.
If Plato resume the idea in "Justice is nothing else than the interest of the stronger", any justice system that relies on the monopolized violence, adjust to this criteria.
In the other hand, dude, the only thing that you have to say its that moral decisions exist, just like Plato formuled, sure "might makes right" plays an essecial part of any civilization, but its not total nor absolute. The powerful can have morals, soldiers can get enough of bullshit and any of us can believe in something far superior than a natural rule.
>>
File: 1550273202730.jpg (34 KB, 440x440)
34 KB JPG
>>153338773
>>153338704
What the fuck is this shit and how the fuck is it /co/? Seriously, fuck this schzio nigga and his edgelord whining, stop dignifying it by trying to argue with it like its coherent philosophy and not just whiny gibberish from a coping retard.
>>
File: HGgDE-ibcAAWfu2.jpg (46 KB, 720x404)
46 KB JPG
>>153338740
>Will kregg do something cool in the future??
he's got a motorcycle, he's already cool
>>
File: 1776534408040640.png (184 KB, 474x699)
184 KB PNG
>>153338864
Why are invincible threads so prone to being derailed by retarded nonsense?
>>
File: chudrome.png (560 KB, 694x694)
560 KB PNG
>>153338826
>resorting to pathetic strawmans now

Just give it up. You're wrong and you lost.
>>
File: HFbmj01WMAAupwI.jpg (227 KB, 1704x2048)
227 KB JPG
>>153338932
I think its literally just the same guy every thread and people who get suckered into mass debating with him.
>>
>>153338864
It's not gibberish, you're just retarded.
>>
File: HCSdquqbEAI_JWl.jpg (916 KB, 1493x1920)
916 KB JPG
>>
File: HFg2jruWEAAbdzn.jpg (225 KB, 1536x1928)
225 KB JPG
>>
>>153338935
how is that a strawman? if i was making you a strawman i would have made you a wife beater, not assumed you don't do it. do you have an answer for why you don't resolve marital disputes with violence?
>>
>>153333719
Is that why the Kind Quest thing took off?
>>
File: 1775846938736383.png (22 KB, 782x711)
22 KB PNG
>>153338947
It's insane how easy it is for people on this site to get baited. Almost as if the userbase is almost entirely autistic spergs.
>>
File: ffffuuuuckkk.gif (810 KB, 240x240)
810 KB GIF
>>153338826
>is the only reason you don't beat your wife because you fear reprisal by the government?
If a thief enters your house and beats your wife, how do you stop the thief? Kind words?
>>153338850
>its the social contract, not pure force
Those social contract are enforced by pure force.
>but the reason the knight does not is because he is compelled to uphold his social contract with the lord, its a deal
Or because the Lord has 200 other knights under his pay that will easily kill the single knight.
> and that happens with or without cops
And how do you stop that violence from happening? How does the government make sure random punch guys are not dominating on the streets?

If social contracts would be enough, we would have no conflicts or wars, yet international politics are fundamental anarchy where the strongest rule and dictate the rules for everyone else. The only reason why your life is peaceful and safe is because your own government exercises force on you and prevents you from exercising your own force. We have plenty of poorer countries where government is too weak to do this and the social contract breaks immediatly, resulting in gang violence and warlords.

I can't believe how fucking retarded some people here are holy shit.
>>
File: 64536453653463456.gif (2.7 MB, 600x600)
2.7 MB GIF
>>153338968
>>153338989
>>
>>153337254
I'm pretty sure Thragg is counting Mark and Nolan in the number while the 50 number from earlier didn't unclude them or Thaedus.
>>
>>153338755
Now who's do the "no u". Again doing things you accuse others of.
>>
File: HFWDK9AaoAAIPEI.jpg (526 KB, 2792x4018)
526 KB JPG
I want to buttfuck Slampig Eve.
>>
>>153339016
Where is this Llama Mark meme from?
>>
>>153339017
>If a thief enters your house and beats your wife, how do you stop the thief? Kind words?
Why'd you have to change the subject instead of answering?
>>
File: comm para mix.png (124 KB, 550x700)
124 KB PNG
>>153333638
Billions must smile
>>
>>153339016
>>153338947
>Everyone I disagree with is just baiting me.

Or maybe you're not used to posting on websites where people with different opinions than you exist and aren't immediately banned.
>>
>>153338930
Now see, the woman and cigarettes I can understand but the motorcycle is still bit of left field.
I understand he probably stole it but still, why?
Did he just see one and go "That needs to be mine", did he just get that entrance by a two-wheeled machine instantly?
was he jealous of space racer
>>
File: IMG_2618.jpg (110 KB, 795x407)
110 KB JPG
>>153338099
Anon, I want to know what happened in your life that led to you typing that post.
>>
File: 1775841896833075.jpg (348 KB, 2360x2552)
348 KB JPG
>>153339069
I don't really care what you're talking about it's not invincible. I don't like huge walls of text that sound like they were written by 14 year olds on reddit when I just want to read about what people thought about this show.
>>
>>153338850
>a single knight could walk to a lord and kill him because he is well armed and armored

And then the King's other family members who take control after his death would send other knights to go and kill him for betraying his king. You really think medieval rulers weren't critically aware of this weakness? Many rulers had their warriors disarmed if they wanted to have a private meeting with them. You are genuinely retarded.
>>
File: 1776311266376632.jpg (495 KB, 3000x3000)
495 KB JPG
>>153338864
>whiny gibberish
marxism itself its built around the concept of might makes right, thats why the dictatorship of the proletariat is needed to get to communism
>>
File: 1764464940050645m.jpg (124 KB, 589x1024)
124 KB JPG
>>153338968
>>153338989
Best timeline confirmed
>>
File: 1653543637281.png (611 KB, 1319x897)
611 KB PNG
Debbie's fat plump asian milf ass
>>
>>153336015
>it's ok to be an absolute retard
If you say so
>>
>>153339102
The show is terrible. There. Now shut the fuck up.
>>
>>153338343
Thrasymachus' argument is explicitly rejected by Socrates. That's literally why the rest of the republic is written. Plato argues justice is each properly doing their own part, whether it be outwardly in society, or internally within the soul
>>
>>153339162
Take your argument to r/philosophy
>>
Holy shit 4chan is so fucking bad at philosophy
And basic communication
It beggars belief
Anissa is the best waifu
>>
>>153339057
You changed the subject first. Love and intimacy has nothing to do with the discussion of might makes right. Lot of people wish for a world where everyone gathers around to sing kumbayah but thats simply not reality. I love my wife so I won't hurt her. At the same time I will exercise might and force to anyone who does try to hurt her. To me she is a valuable resource worth protecting from others trying to claim or destroy her.
>>
>>153339036
>Now who's do the "no u"
Poetry, thank you. I nearly pissed myself.

I accused people like you of parroting bullshit and you have literally only parroted "No u" again and again, no substance. I just closed the loop of your endless projection of your own projection.
>>
ITT a bunch of complete fucking retards conflate the correct political theory that the state is a monopoly on force with the psychopathic suggestion that the winner of a physical fight is morally upstanding as a result.

You can't debate when you don't understand the terms you're using.
>>
File: 1763085717679594.png (416 KB, 800x718)
416 KB PNG
>>153338436
>survival of the fittest = Might makes right
Retard
>>
>>153339200
That's not a subject change when you're claiming the social contract is just might makes right enforced by state-monopolized force, without which violence would occur. Sounds like you have a social contract with your wife, one which you DON'T need the threat of reprisal to follow through on?
>>
>>153337136
>>153337153
I thought they handled will in the episode, building up to the confrontation with Mark's panic attacks until Thragg confronts him. Where Mark has to make the call by himself to protect the Earth.
>>
>>153339243
>>153339234
>>153339205
>>153339200
>>153339247
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/n1MZCPcc6bk
>>
>>153339234
I would put it more as Society utilizing pressures to to enact a code
>>
>>153333638
Sex is very important to humans so ita difficult to actually imagine a species that doesnt place the same amount of importance on the magical transformative power of sex and love.

Praying mantis eat their husbands after sex simply because its an additional source of nutrients. There are spiders who do the same. In certain fish species sex amounts to squirting a sperm cloud near a eggs sack blob with zero instance of penis in vagina taking place. And then theres stuff like seahorses.

So trying to imagine aliens who dont get attached to their mates or value empathy is simply a bridge too far. Of course in this specific instance they purposefully made the choice to make the aliens sexually repressed and longing for genuine empathetic contact. But as others have pointed out thats sort of the norm with these types of stories.
>>
>>153339234
And you can't debate when you have to mischaracterize your opponent's arguments to make yourself correct.

The state using a monopoly on violence as one of its tools to enforce social order does not mean might is the sole way to make right, especially physical might. It also certainly does not prove this a law of the universe, nor that it is the way things should be. Plenty of anons are just splitting hairs but many are trying to push an authoritarian moral framework, or a complete misunderstanding of evolutionary fitness.
>>
>>153339247
"The state" does not exist. Its a shorthand phrase used to describe the tendency for social animals to form cohesive groups. But humans no more have a "state" than Prairie Dogs, chimpanzees, termites or wasps have a "state"
>>
>fuck humans
>decide not to be world conquering genocidal warlords anymore
>>
>>153339330
What cohesive social group is the husband-wife dynamic part of, and how does it enforce the contract of non-violence between partners? Who has the monopoly on violence, who is mighty?
>>
>>153339157
... uh, OK. Whatever you say.
>>
File: 1632191418863.jpg (81 KB, 607x567)
81 KB JPG
>>153339247
>Sounds like you have a social contract with your wife, one which you DON'T need the threat of reprisal to follow through on?
And that has nothing to do with what we're talking about. One of the basic needs of a human being is the need for security. And how do you keep yourself secure? Do you just fuck a bear when he comes towards you? How about a burglar? Do you make a social contract with the future scientist and he agrees to leave your kitchenware on the table? No you fucking shoot them or call the police that will shoot them for you.

Social contracts mean nothing if they can't be enforced. That is why might makes right. Universally so, humans are not unique nature does it all the time, our social animal behaviour is only successful because a group of people are mightier than the individual.

In case of Viltrumites their philosophy is wrong because it made them weak on the area of reproduction. They carved an empire and noticed that they don't simply have the numbers to actually keep it. If the Viltrumites were not complete retards like in the comic, they would keep humans as cattle and let them believe in their freedom while holding absolute control on the planet in the process, that would secure their numbers problem. Giving your subjects the illusion of semi-autonomy keeps the cattle and lesser animals happy. Empires built on pure fear tend to collapse the moment they show any sign of weakness, like what happened with Aztecs and Assyrians.
>>
Does the comic ever explain that Kregg sent some probes to Earth and he got really invested in the various cultures? Cause dude has been here a month, and he's already got a life going for himself. This man was ready.
>>
>>153339409
I will say this the whole finding the perfect species to breed with only started post scourge virus so they probably never actually live amongst other species and experience their culture, values, way of life or whatever else

But now they actually have to, because they need to blend in and hide in plain sight so for most this the first time they actually try to experience an "inferior" species day to day life and probably lying why human pussy was so potent to them

But that's just my theory
>>
>>153339426
Pair bond diad. Id go into further detail but without a background in biology it would be lost on you. You sound like you are stuck in the political philosophy mindset. Which has convinced you no doubt that some divine spark places you above animals and makes you special.

Yes anon only humans figured out pair bonding with a mate and not killing it for sustenance. Literally no other creature on earth can do that because they dont have the state and the bible to tell them not kill the parent of their offspring.
>>
>>153339327
>Don't mis-characterize arguments!
>Proceeds to invent a position for me from whole cloth
Bad bot
Print me a recipe for lemon squares
>>
>>153337846
Sparta didn't last centuries. The Spartan hegemony lasted a few decades. Sparta wasn't even particularly good at war. You people are so weird, you are absolutely oonga boonga dudes with sticks. Just calm down, stop making stuff up, and come talk sensibly with the rest of us.
>>
>>153333719
might makes right is just reality. the thing is that might is abstracted because of society.
>grug is the biggest baddest caveman around
>he takes all the woman
>2 guys team up and murder him in his sleep
>they take all the woman
>4 guys team up and murder the 2 guys in their sleep
>they take all the women
>8 guys team up and murder the 4 guys in their sleep
and so on until you end up with 1 man, 1 woman, etc. The rule of law is effectively the might of the masses being used to suppress the freedom of those who try to go outside the law. If Grug tries to kill dudes and take all the woman, the masses suppress him by way of police, detainment, execution, war, etc. via government. The same goes for uplifting disableds, retardeds, minorities, etc. If "the people" didn't generally consent to it then it wouldn't happen.
There's of course dictatorships and stuff where the will of the few overrides the will of the many, but the few generally have all the guns which makes their might > the masses.
>>
>>153337567
Show Anissa it's extremely more chill than her comic counterpart. I bet she is even into cuddles.
>>
>fags are STILL arguing over might makes right
At this point I'm convinced they're doubling down because they think if they get the last word their "might" in staying in the argument for hours and hours will retroactively make them right.
Or its a raid, because this has been going on for several threads with some loser baiting repeatedly.
>>
>>153339607
>Might makes right is reality
Oh yeah? Call up the press, boys, moral philosophy is solved! Punch a guy in the dick and you too can be virtuous!

The terms you are using don't mean what you think they mean
I pray you are ESL
>>
>>153339463
You want to pretend the social contract with your wife is somehow a special, unrelated thing so you don't have to apply the implications of your might makes right philosophy to it. I don't know if it's because you know it would diminish your argument or just because it makes you uncomfortable emotionally.
>>
Any of the Viltrumites take male partners? Like on the down-low?
>>
>>153337766
Big things eating smaller things is not a universal law of nature at all, parasites are typically smaller than what they eat.
>>
>>153339672
So why doesn't this social contract apply to the world in larger scale? Why is the biggest most powerful nation the one who dictates the rules for everyone else, instead of the most compassionate one?
>>
>>153339674
Probably. The MissionTM is to restore the species. The ones who happen to be gay are still expected to visit the sperm bank.

... Actually, ALL of them should be visiting the sperm bank anyway and using their super tech to keep track of the recipients.
>>
>>153339693
Parasites are also completely dependent on their hosts. The moment a parasite successfully kills off the host, the parasite itself perishes.
>>
>>153339607
>the few generally have all the guns which makes their might > the masses
Not especially. Less so nowadays, actually. There's a prevailing apathy, which is not the same thing.
>>
>>153339709
Let's back up a step, numbnuts.
Describe for me what you think "Might makes right" means.
In a nutshell, what idea do you think that phrase is conveying?
>>
>>153339570
...so you specifically don't beat your wife because you have a biological imperative to pair bond? What changed in human biology in the last century or so that caused wife beating to go from widespread and condoned to illegal and completely socially unacceptable?

I know it makes you feel smart to dress up your political philosophy in the trappings of biology but that does not make it a law of the universe, or you "above politics".
>>
>>153333638
The scourge virus caused such a collective trauma that it also counts as a "home planet destroyed" origin story
>>
>>153339600
>this is what everyone is arguing, and it's wrong
>actually this is how the argument has gone, you're mischaracterizing it
>you invented a position for me!
I summed up a lot of things in the thread. The only thing I'm accusing you of is either bad faith or not really reading.
>>
File: 1776707274064761.png (126 KB, 576x477)
126 KB PNG
>>153339716
>instead of breeding with the humans they just donate sperm thousands of times
>>
>>153339709
>Why doesn't Ross, the largest Friend, simply eat the others?
>>
>>153333638
Bro did his best to raise an entire generation of Viltrumites to be blindly loyal soldiers and he's watching their programming fail in real time. His soldiers falling for humanussy isn't just an inconvenience, but irrefutable proof in his face that everything he fought for over a thousand years was a complete and utter waste.
>>
>>153339727
>Describe for me what you think "Might makes right" means.
The same thing as "History is written by the victors.". Human history mimics nature's evolution where evolutionary dead ends perish and the stronger more resilient species hog the resources for themselves.

Here, a /co/-friendly video of a puny ant species that became massive invasive species problem and killed thousands of native species to extinction. The ants only strength is the fact their colonies have multiple queens squirting out hundreds of eggs a day:

https://youtu.be/cqECNYmM23A?si=pFbYcrlwb_b9XXYY
>>
>>153339847
No no, I mean they should be doing that in addition to the interbreeding. Then again, I'm asking the space nazis to be efficient about something.

>>153339872
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! STOP HAVING FEELINGS!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
I don't know why people kept bitching about Thragg's "aura" or whatever. He's a fascist dictator. By definition, he's a pathetic little bitch.
>>
Reminder that it's fruitless to argue on 4chan about anything with a hint of subtlety. It doesn't matter that he's being a dipshit. You're never going to get anywhere.
>>
>>153339709
>the biggest most powerful nation the one who dictates the rules for everyone else
This is how you think things work, always have and will, and should?
>>
File: 05.jpg (385 KB, 1280x1971)
385 KB JPG
Who's ready for oliver's shitbag arc next season?
>>
I want Leucan to fuck me
>>
>>153339902
>stronger more resilient species hog the resources for themselves.
Meanwhile the Lystrosaurus...
>>
>>153338163
And those same bacteria (or certain kinds) could absolutely mog an individual that we as a people had to work tirelessly over YEARS to create medicine just to beat them back.
>>
>>153340042
and you like to get fucked up the ass
>>
>>153339948
I know it's pointless, I'm just passing the time. Eventually I'll have something better to do and you'll be free from my bad choices.
>>
>>153339967
>This is how you think things work, always have and will, and should?
My opinion on whether it should or not is irrelevant. It just works that way. As long as all living things compete for resources to survive and resources themselves are not infinite, then there will be conflict and violence.
>>
>>153340002
>Eh. I only really care about my mom. Everyone else can die.
Zoe will be in this scene he says that, and she'll be fucking pissed.
>>
>>153340053
or you could just talk about comics and cartoons instead of sucking dick.
>>
File: invincible1.webm (386 KB, 1280x720)
386 KB WEBM
The entire fucking episode was a waste of time. Only the last 2 or so minutes were actually anything interesting. Why direct it like this? It's just fucking insane.
>>
>>153333983
If there's life out there, I'd like to believe we'd get along.
>>
>>153339902
>The same thing as "History is written by the victors
Wrong.
"Might makes right" is not a statement about politics or history.
It is a MORAL statement.
It means that when two people disagree about what is moral the correct one is the one that wins the fight.
You are a fucking moron.
>>
>>153337589
Coward
>>
>>153340100
Great animation there
>>
>>153333638
>What did Invincible mean by this?
"Pussy is good". It's not really that complicated.
>>
File: 20260420_210430.jpg (85 KB, 702x988)
85 KB JPG
Slept late but here's the entire season of Invincible S4 (including the new episode). Make sure you download these and insert them into VLC if the audio don't work for ya
https://gofile.io/d/COCid1
>>
>>153340141
>It means that when two people disagree about what is moral the correct one is the one that wins the fight.
You just described entire human history, dumbass.
>>
>>153340061
And that conflict and violence always goes the way of the "mightiest". Not the best adapted, not by any sort of strategy, brute force. Are you the one accusing others of having a child's view of the world?
>>
>>153340068
I thought we were discussing the Viltrumite philosphy. If not, why the fuck are these anons making these arguments in the first place?
>>
>>153340309
maybe on planet retard
>>
>>153340002
doesn't work for show oliver after the paul's spaghetti scene
>>
File: Thragg Mercury.jpg (222 KB, 1080x1528)
222 KB JPG
ARGAAAALLLLL
OOOOOOOO
DIDN'T MEAN TO MAKE YOU DIE
>>
>>153340375
>Not the best adapted, not by any sort of strategy, brute force.
>>153338292
>might (noun)
>The power, authority, or RESOURCES wielded (as an individual or GROUP)
>The power, ENERGY, or INTENSITY of which one is capable.
How can you read comic books when you don't even understand simple words? If you think Might only means brute force, you're a retarded toddler.
>>
>>153340498
So why keep falling back on "might" in these terms?
>So why doesn't this social contract apply to the world in larger scale? Why is the biggest most powerful nation the one who dictates the rules for everyone else, instead of the most compassionate one?

Talking out both sides of your mouth. Clinging to definitions of might including a beneficial mutation or mutual cooperation when convenient, then advancing out into the bailey to argue that it's all about raw force overpowering a bear or burglar when you want to apply it to human politics and society.
>>
Is Vegeta redeemable?
>>
Just because you turn into a peace loving pacifist doesn’t undo the terrible things you’ve done. You’re still a horrible person. The virus should’ve been used to finish off the Viltrumites. Also the Galra should’ve been wiped from the universe in Voltron. Evil needs to be destroyed. That’s why I hate Republicans.
>>
>>153340657
Absolutely not, which is why Bulma's pussy game ridiculous.
>>
>>153340657
No, that's why Goku kill him.
>>
>>153336831
Viltrumites are Neanderthal tier retards, they shouldn't even have tech like ships and guns they should just be space huns and go around flying and beating up everything with fists.
>>
>>153333638
Thragg Internal monologue:
>niggas be like "what 0 pussy does to a mf" but I seen what pussy does to an mf
>>
File: fry smile.gif (869 KB, 400x318)
869 KB GIF
>>153333638
Humanity fucks all other species into loving submission to us. None are safe from us in all the cosmos.
>>
>>153340284
Based as fuck. Thank you.
>>
File: 1522570186899.png (119 KB, 225x227)
119 KB PNG
>>153340625
>Clinging to definitions of might
People cling to correct definitions of words? Preposterous! They should all have a crystal ball and just predict whatever schizophrenic interpretation you have for individual words. Who needs consensus of what words mean mister /co/anon is here to tell the rest of us plebians the new meanings of words!
>>
>>153337790
Either full on attempting to rip her spine out of her for that or secretly letting other viltrumites know that she is a poor mother host so that they avoid trying to couple with her to make more of their kind.
>>
>>153341281
Yes, I mentioned your motte. Why not talk about your bailey too though?
>>
>>153333692
>our leader was assassinated
>quick, kill each other for a little bit
>yes even the kids, they too must die
>>
Will Dinosaurus glassing Vegas be next season?
>>
>>153341439
dinosaurus, flaxan rudy and MG, bulletproof, and scourge virus should be season 5. the ending will probably be nolan exiling thragg and they will shift things around a bit to make sure it fits into the end of the 8th episode.
>>
i just realized after all this time it's kinda stupid there are two different unrelated alien species, one named flaxan and the other named thraxan
>>
>>153341756
typesetters made that mistake a few times in the comic even and it wasn't immediately caught by editors.
>>
>>153340002
Kirkman could have literally done a slow burn romance arc between Oliver and Thragg. The alien bug Thraxians literally worship people who have the strength and power to lead them and even though Oliver's genetic Viltrumite DNA is quickly overwriting his Thraxians DNA h should start to develop a reluntant hidden keen interest towards Thragg over time.
>>
>>153340657
Yes but only through dying and endless humiliation rituals. Toriyama hated Vegeta but he was too popular so he settled on shitting on him nonstop.
>>
Why does every genocide character need to be compared to hitler?
>>
>>153341846
Why do fags find the most deplorable characters to apply their faggotry to?
>>
>>153333638
How are they getting jobs with no Earth IDs or education/experience? How are they impressing chicks with no money or property or abythubg?
>>
>>153342236
They ARE super jacked.
>>
>>153342214
because mao, stalin, genghis khan, etc. didn't specifically target a certain group so they're not intentionally kept in public consciousness for propaganda reasons
>>
>>153340309
You're retarded
>>
I want to give William a blowjob ._.
>>
>>153342338
But all three of them absolutely did target specific groups.
>>
>>153342378
not THAT group
>>
File: 441ay9vl4kwg1.jpg (86 KB, 640x909)
86 KB JPG
>>153340453
On one hand Thragg being raised to worship Argall so that he doesn't betray viltrum makes sense
>>
>>153333692
Thragg is a Super Ubermensch even by his kin standard he should have known Viltrumites would folds long before him
>>
>>153337723
Evolution too is a word that has caused many misunderstandings. Media will constantly speak of ultimate lifeforms, of the apex of evolution, yadda yadda.
>>
>>153334283
nta but Western Europe engaged in some pretty crazy eugenics, executing (on average) 1% of the population every generation for criminality between 1000 and 1800 AD iirc. The natural result of just this action alone, not even getting into the change in population traits from warfare, is that Western Europeans are less violent and less criminal than their Eastern European counterparts who never prosecuted criminality to the same degree.

I don't even really get your point, that human psychology and physiology isn't reliant on genetics? I agree that Sociopathy isn't a cut-and-dry genetic trait, it's not a Yes/No presence, it's just the liklihood that those behaviors manifest given certain stimuli (which itself is different on a per-person basis). At its core Sociopathic behavior is just a reduced empathetic response, ergo populations with lower levels of physiological empathy (blacks, browns, asians) are more sociopathic by default.
>>
>>153333638
Shows how strong Nolan was.
He resisted giving in for 20 years before being willing to betray his people, while these other viltrumites give in within months.
>>
>>153333638
They live for survival, and actively kill each other. They don't seem to relax either. Even Hitler had time for pussy and chilling, these mf didn't, that's why they folded.
>>
File: Viltrumite_Lucan.png (921 KB, 944x2364)
921 KB PNG
>>153342284
They're fat now
>>
>>153337929
Thanks. Gonna look it up now.
>>
>>153342230
Because observant fans know naunce storytelling when they see it dumbass
>>
>>153342498
In the comic, it is revealed in the end that he actually loathed Argall, as he saw his death as a failure and kept his skull to be reminded of the emperor's weakness.
>>
File: kreg.png (778 KB, 354x1339)
778 KB PNG
>>153333638
Finally a reason to dust off these vocaroos again:
https://vocaroo.com/1f8aqFxzmW1R
https://voca.ro/19crjdRpWgxH
>>
File: 0.jpg (168 KB, 1109x614)
168 KB JPG
>>153343044
And that's okay.
>>
>>153343974
I don't remember reading the second one in the comic.
>>
finale set up early allen's arc of being insecure and under pressure from the responsibility thrust on him and it changing his values. in the comic he relents after thragg calls him out and oliver was resolute. the show could swap it around where Oliver relents and Allen is resolute.
>>
>>153333638
More important, why Mark acts like a little bitch crying and whinning about everything?
>>
>>153343200
You cockhungry sissies don't know shit. Faggot.
>>
>>153334043
You cannot breed that out of a gestating species
>>
>>153333692
>It is my duty as regent to find the blood of Argall
>Now, everyone start killing each other. This will not interfere with my search for the heir, I assure you.
>>
File: 1762995732558056.png (812 KB, 814x600)
812 KB PNG
Idk if I'll ever be able to forgive myself for watching the latest episode, man. It's fucking awful no aura, no fighting, nothing but slop drama and putrid dogshit. Those are the 50+ minutes I'll never get back.
>>
>>153337771
It is quite possibly the closest thing to a vacation he has ever had.
>>
>>153342214
It's not just the genocide, it's the eugenics aspect, which the Nazis also engaged in. There's worse genocidal tyrants than Hitler, but Hitler's unique for promoting racial eugenics AND genocide at the same time.
>>
All Thragg had to do was chill, dude
>>
>>153344853
and inevitably job to human puss? Never
>>
>>153333638
>Grow up in a toxic, oppressive culture where the only thing you're allowed to feel is anger
>Get a chance to actually experience emotional vulnerability, intimacy and humanity
>Forever changed for the better
it's a metaphor for something...
>>
>>153336501
Best part is we saw how awkward Nolan was when first getting used to Earth and starting to date Debbie, meanwhile the chad Kregg only here for a few months already smooth as fuck with the ladies.
>>
I'm happy the show added so many scenes of Viltrum. It was super weird in the comic how we almost never got to see the surface
>>
>>153345113
>this only happened on earth for some reason
>>
>>153345193
earth was a special kind of mission trying to use a new tactic. Who could have guessed that would happen
>>
Did Debbie even know that Eve aborted her first grandchild? Did she even talk to her about her fear of having to potentially raise a child without Mark if he died during the war? If not, it's kind of dumb that she talked about it to her gay friend who can't fully empathize with what she's going through instead of an actual mother.
>>
Why didn't they just abduct a bunch of women to breed with?
>>
>>153336501
>>153336670
A redheaded bitch, a kickass motorcycle and some ciggies. Kregg has only been on the planet a couple of weeks but he's already won at life.
>>
>>153345193
It's more that going under-cover for such a long perdiod of time isn't the usual Viltrumite Modus Operandi.
>>
I think another "domesticating" factor is being around people that look like you, yet aren't trying to gang up and tear you apart just because you sneezed and they think they need to try to cull you because you showed an ounce of vulnerability. That was probably a HUGELY welcome change. Societal interactions not being determined by "I can kill you, and so I will" probably mellowed them the fuck out.
>>
>>153345269
Thragg wanted a truce and thought his people would take over the planet in a more subtle way. He was not expecting them to fall in love and defend the humans.
>>
File: 1755673176820479.jpg (320 KB, 1179x1459)
320 KB JPG
give me all your "he has me" edits please
>>
>>153345439
also accepting Conquest slam dunking Oliver edits too
>>
>>153345343
Yeah...cuz no other species look like them/us. Kinda makes you wonder...why do we look identical, aside from HUGE variations in maximum potential height/builds? Did some species of genetic tinkerers seed 2 similar environments with the same base, but add a few extras to the subjects in one biome to see how the 2 projects would develop? And wouldn't it be some shit if Viltrumites AND humans are considered "genetically baseline" to all other alien species, and could reproduce with them? Kirkman left a ton of questions behind.
>>
>>153345269
Starting shit on the one planet proven to have multiple means of actually harming or killing Viltrumites wasnt worth the risk when there's less than 40 of them left. Thragg was thinking long term and is planning to make his move once thier numbers get back up
>>
>>153345439
Thragg fled earth because he was too scared of Paul btw.
>>
>>153345193
The show implied that Thaddeus had his changed of heart after being an administrator outside of Vilturm for a while.
So its not just earth but due to the plot this is how things played out.
>>
>>153345193
Wasn't just Earth. Thaedus hung out with his subjects for a bit, and decided that his own species needs to be wiped from existence.

>>153345463
It's a common contrivance in science fiction. It's always handwaved as "convergent evolution" or some stupid crap. The aliens look like humans because humans are easier to draw and/or don't need extensive makeup.
>>
>>153340743
They weren't always like that, no?
Their long lifespans mean that scientists have centuries to acquire knowledge and breakthroughs
>>
>>153345635
I mean, if they cared to SCIENCE, sure. But they have already completely conquered the threats in their environment on pure superhumanism, and would be hard pressed to create a weapon more devastating than "knife hand to the gut". They can wreak planetary destruction with their bare fists. They only invented (or stole the tech) of Spaceships out of convenience.
They have literally no reason to be hyper-advanced.
>>
Hearing Optimus Prime advocate for the complete and utter genocide of a sentient species is both the most jarring and hilarious thing in this show.
>>
>>153345268
She doesn't really even know Debbie that well.
She's known "teh gay guy" since she started school.
She wasn't married to Mark.
It wasn't THAT long ago that Mark broke up with his last Forever Girl.
Mark hadn't proposed to her.
No engagement ring.
He's a guy who lives with his Mom and only has a job because she created one for him, (which he sucks at).
He sorta has this tendency to jump at one-way time/space portals on the regular.
It's really not a reach that Eve didn't want to grow a Mark-baby while on her own, or WORSE living with her mental case parents.
>>
>>153339722
Not always true, depends quite a bit on the parasite. Some move on, some kill their host, some die but as part of their life cycle. Either way, small things eating big things is just as natural as the other way around.
>>
>>153345748
>"No matter the cost."
They knew what they were fucking doing. Same with Argall. Pog and clap at the not-so-subtle Transformers references. Which I did. I hate myself for not being immune to "Here is thing you recognize.".
>>
>>153345748
>>153345799
At least it means they are giving roles to some actual voice actors.

I swear they could double their animation budget if they stopped hiring movie celebrities for the smallest cameos ever.
>>
>>153333638
War is caused by lack of pussy
>>
>>153345868
internet fites, too.
>>
>>153345488
>>153345377
Yeah but they can just be sneaky and abduct a bunch of women and dip and no one would ever know. He saw Nolan go soft on Earth and all the problems it caused. His number 1 enemy is a kid raised on Earth. They could even try both methods of abduction and infiltration at once to do some AB testing.
>>
>>153345799
There's nothing wrong with a little wink and a nudge if it's subtle enough to miss, i.e. the opposite of fortnite culture
>>
>>153345843
Kirkman is not an animation enjoyer so it was always going to be like this. The only question is if the animation criticism will get bad enough to sink the show long term like it did OPM
>>
>>153339722
For a human to become strong, it has to live through a parasitic and dependent phase, so the idea that we think of different kinds of things as being organized hierarchically rather than as interrelated complexities just because we happen to personally experience them from a particular point of view in a perceived timespace sequence is already a titanic failure of the white imagination tbdesu
>>153342214
Probably because you’re only watching things where the genocide is a eugenicist project
>>
>>153339081
he is a man so he appreciates machinery. Its as shrimple as that
>>
File: 0.jpg (158 KB, 800x1188)
158 KB JPG
Was TechJacket inspired by the Star Kid movie or was the Star Kid movie written after having learned about the Tech Jacket character?
>>
>>153345843
Point. The celebrity stunt casting really only works with Simmons. I also wish they'd stop that and just hire proper VAs.
>>
How did Viltrumites get different races? Does that imply they weren't always super powered in the past?
>>
>>153346040
nothing in invincible is original cmon now
>>
>>153346125
they are not born with superpowers it comes after, so it makes sense that children that are better adapted for survival would ultimately pass their genetics along more regularly
>>
why did they only send Nolan... and not just the entire last 50? Who cares if you become space tree huggers, you have a a billion more space hitlers after a 16 year investment, which is nothing for Viltrumites anyway
>>
>>153346199
Anon, they weren't sure if humans would make viable offspring until Mark.
>>
>>153346162
Humanity has different races due to being separated by geography for thousands of years. That can't happen when your species can fly at super speed.
>>
>>153345843
I also imagine all the constant “random song plays during animation montage/scene” probably also eats up some budget, but I have no idea how music rights work so I’m probably wrong.
>>
Would Thragg watch television?
>>
>>153346217
Why wouldn't you send them to other planets to try the same thing? Why did Nolan only have 1 kid? What if inheriting the powers was only a probabilistic thing and not an either/or thing?
>>
>>153346272
>Why wouldn't you send them to other planets to try the same thing
Pretty sure they did.
Most were running their empire, a few were out fucking
>>
>>153346272
You're supposed to believe there are other viltrumites out there fucking aliens but Kirkman is a hack and his world building is shit.
>>
>>153346217
in the comics Nolan tells Alan he was sent to Earth specifically because of how compatible humans are with viltrumite DNA
>>
>>153346236
No. He'd read and maybe listen to lectures.
>>
>>153346272
>Why wouldn't you send them to other planets to try the same thing
They were, it's just that no other race was able to come as close to a pure viltrumite as humans. I'm not sure it's ever adressed, but I imagine most of the hybrids get ripped in half during the parental hazing and then that race is deemed unsuitable for breeding new viltrumites.
>>
>>153336707
>anyone with a brain would notice their philosophy makes no sense
Which is easily counteractable by continually re-exposing yourself to said philosophy and living it, reducing the time spent doubting it or considering an alternative viewpoint.
Thought- and literal-policing one other also helps to make sure everyone is adhering to the correct expressions of self.

One of the parts I liked the most about Invincible was how the Viltrumite Empire policy of "kill them all and rule their corpses" was artificial. Even the rapist, once seperated from her rape-apologist clique, understood how her actions were terrible and wished to make ammends.
>>
>>153333638
Libs actually think this is how evil people work
>>
>>153346236
What was Thragg doing when all his subjects were out blowing humans?
Was the guy just hanging out in a cave somewhere, unwilling to interact with the humans?
>>
>>153346225
I think this is a moot point or at least a much less important question before asking why they're so similar to humans or why they can fly and punch planets in half.
>>
>>153346469
He was sitting around being autistic.
>>
>>153337136
Damn, they nerfed Lucan's drip hard in the show.
>>
>>153337614
Right but the problem with living by the law of the jungle is there is always a bigger fish. It's not a road that has a happy ending for the people who walk it.
>>
>>153346469
he spies on the viltrumites like he's a security guard and micromanages their every move
>>
>>153344657
Seriously I almost didn't finish it and I couldn't believe they ended the season on it
>>
>>153346678
Also, guns exist. The smaller fish are under no obligation to play "fair".
>>
>>153345891
Internet fights are usually BETWEEN pussies, though...
>>
>>153337614
>very laws of physics
You may be thinking of entropy, which has absolutely nothing to do with survival to begin with. It's just high energy wants to become low energy. Doesn't give two shits if you're a big strong man or not
>>
Human pussy would not grip strongly enough to make a Viltrumite penis ejaculate

Human dick would not be strong enough to enter a Viltrumite pussy and even if it did it would be crushed
>>
>>153345765
She should know enough that oliver isn't debbie's but she still took care of him. And nu-amber wasn't forever girl. Marriage is irrelevant even to her since she fucked a loser like rex and then mark without any ring. Marriage is irrelevant in general, her parents are clearly miserable despite it and she doesn't respect them much. She has all the resources available to make it the easiest pregnancy ever and the show tries really hard even early on to portray their trash ass relationship as something super special. She supposedly loves him and has multiple ways to make the entire pregnancy and birth easy as shit but abortion is still somehow the only real option for her. She didn't want to keep a piece of mark around while assuming he died. We needs a heckin wedding ring to legitimize the relationship? Yeah horse shit buddy. It's just more shitty robert cuckman writing.
>>
>>153346918
Apparently Viltrumite/human sex, uh...found a way. BOTH ways.
>>
>>153346918
not necessarily, something being ultra-durable doesn't mean it has to be ultra-inelastic
>>
>>153346918
>2026
>bad faith "Woman of Kleenex" nonsense
>>
>>153333939
>But in all seriousness, beings who have not experienced so much as familial intimacy being given access to eroticism creates a massive psychological nuclear bomb.

forget eroticism, if they aren't totally traumatised psychopaths, the desire to embrace and immerse oneself within emotional relationships of mutual companionship and obsession, especially with adding pregnancies and children to the mix, would do far more to weaken and erode any ultra-edgelord culture that the Viltrumites developed. It simply cannot compete with love and empathy, as much as i hate to admit it, i don't believe any real sentient being, even alien, is going to be designed to be happy existing as a singular, lonely being.

Its not how evolution would work for highly intelligent and evolved beings. The smartest animals on earth all work in packs and bond closely.
>>
Damn...now I want someone to do a pic with Thragg, Kregg, Vegeta and Goku all lifting weights in a gym, with Future Trunks in the foreground telling the viewer "Sorry, after-hours are for ELITES only."
>>
File: 1775998726536456 (1).jpg (1.69 MB, 2616x3904)
1.69 MB JPG
>>153337593

She is technically wearing a fundoshi on top of her outfit you know.
>>
>>153347345
Why do you hate to admit that?
>>
File: HGiAwVqWAAA5iHx.jpg (1.83 MB, 2898x2594)
1.83 MB JPG
>>
File: 1740766564852754.gif (73 KB, 304x396)
73 KB GIF
>>153347345
>Faced with the undeniable absence of God, man created one to his liking
>>
>>153347493
because its gay and lame. And i recognise that on some levels that is how i live, and i don't particularly like facing it as a 39 yo man who is too picky to get with the few women who actually like me.

>>153347533
this will never be a story worth reading as any writer willing to try is a bad one, but i'd love to see how that relationship would work out lmao
>>
>>153347670
>giving a shit about other people is gay and lame
...
>>
>>153347533
Yeah let's have two unholy abominations fuck and hope it makes a positive
>>
>>153339936
He’s literally a giant baby.
>>
>>153333719
Might makes right is literally how human civilization has always operated, even to this day. Go be a retard on plebbit.
>>
>>153340062
Nobody gives a shit about Zoe.
>>
>>153348020
How come America can't force some goat fuckers in the sandpit to open one teeny tiny stretch of water then?
>>
>>153346962
What’s another few months? She can always start over. Have another kid.
>>
>>153348037
Because the people don't want another pointless war for Pissrael. That must upset you greatly, Moshe.
>>
>>153348109
Well which is it, are the powerless people in control or the mighty jews who control the government? I thought might makes right?
>>
>>153336501
saw a sarchastic chorus vid today with a good line about krieg
>Krieg is a 4 on Viltrum, but a 9 on Earth. Maybe 10 with the right crowd
>>
>>153348130
God, you are such a fucking smug little retard fresh from reddit, aren't you? Kikes could try to force another draft for another sand war, but that would then lead to an uprising as people refuse. So yes, might does indeed make right, as can be seen across all of human history.
>>
Alright that's it, time for the thread to slide
>>
>>153337988
We are the strongest species on the planet though, unless you're retarded enough to think that "might" means physical strength
>>
>>153348190
So then the winners and real mightiest is Iran? Wow!
>>
>>153333638
Robert Kirkman is a retard and humans are trash. Viltrumites should be acting like Ultron and be trying to destroy the Earth.
>>
Might makes right only works if you believe that morality as a whole is a human construct
>>
The cockroach is the mightiest creature on earth
>>
>>153336831
Do you seriously think the viltrumites failure was in not getting rid of emotions and attachments?
>>
Invincible threads always have the biggest fucking soijak retards on the website. Historically ignorant too.
>>
>>153348519
Pretty sure where they fucked up was galactic eminent domain in combination with their Mad Max-esque eugenics program. If they just left everyone else alone, they'd still be ok. But they were fucking up and bring such misery and bullshit to others to the point that their own people were having problems with it, hence Thaedus.
>>
>>153348318
We are NOT the strongest. We ARE the mightiest. Strength is physical power. Might is control/power held by a person or group. We are not the strongest. Strength is quantified by INDIVIDUAL specimens, and humans are woefully lacking vs other single specimens from most other animals.
>>
>>153336501
The pimp formerly known as Kregg
>>
>>153337988
>works together by enslaving you
Neat
>>
File: 1775861782813381m.jpg (98 KB, 676x1024)
98 KB JPG
>>153349452
>pedantic
Seethe
>>
>>153347345
Dolphins rape for fun.
>>
File: 13_00933582-1024x659.jpg (141 KB, 1024x659)
141 KB JPG
>>153337614
all the retards seething in the replies kek. the entire basis of "democracy" is hinged on the state's monopoly of violence
>>
>>153349916
Only the Zimbabwean dolphins do it
>>
The party is over. Time to banana split out of my club!
>>
>>153333638
God I fucking hate this comic
>>
>>153339017
this is a message board for western comics and cartoons. only the most supreme retards post here with any form of confidence. ignore the samefag like everyone else



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.